From brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com Mon Dec 10 18:51:38 2018 From: brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com (Brian E Carpenter) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:51:38 +1300 Subject: [ih] OT: looking for a contact at the Computer History Museum Message-ID: Please reply off-list: Does anyone have a personal contact with a live email address at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View? Reason: I've just had the sad job of sorting through the files of a deceased colleague, and have several boxes of ephemera that seem museum-worthy. But I really need a human contact before I start filling in the on-line donation form, to find out if I'm wasting my time. Regards Brian Carpenter From jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu Mon Dec 10 19:43:27 2018 From: jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:43:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [ih] OT: looking for a contact at the Computer History Museum Message-ID: <20181211034327.3E32418C08A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> > Please reply off-list See follow-up email to you; this is to let other list-members know it's been answered. > Does anyone have a personal contact with a live email address at the > Computer History Museum in Mountain View? Yes, I do a fair amount with Al Kossow, one of their curators. Noel From bob.hinden at gmail.com Mon Dec 10 20:13:46 2018 From: bob.hinden at gmail.com (Bob Hinden) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 20:13:46 -0800 Subject: [ih] OT: looking for a contact at the Computer History Museum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <165427A0-9AEB-4884-9766-431D5A4DD99F@gmail.com> Brian, Marc Weber, he is the Curatorial Director of CHM?s Internet History Program. I will send you his contact info in a separate email. Bob > On Dec 10, 2018, at 6:51 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Please reply off-list: Does anyone have a personal contact with a live email address at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View? > > Reason: I've just had the sad job of sorting through the files of a deceased colleague, and have several boxes of ephemera that seem museum-worthy. But I really need a human contact before I start filling in the on-line donation form, to find out if I'm wasting my time. > > Regards > Brian Carpenter > _______ > internet-history mailing list > internet-history at postel.org > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will send you his contact info in a separate email. > > Bob > > > > On Dec 10, 2018, at 6:51 PM, Brian E Carpenter < > brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Please reply off-list: Does anyone have a personal contact with a live > email address at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View? > > > > Reason: I've just had the sad job of sorting through the files of a > deceased colleague, and have several boxes of ephemera that seem > museum-worthy. But I really need a human contact before I start filling in > the on-line donation form, to find out if I'm wasting my time. > > > > Regards > > Brian Carpenter > > _______ > > internet-history mailing list > > internet-history at postel.org > > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > > Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. > > _______ > internet-history mailing list > internet-history at postel.org > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From casner at acm.org Mon Dec 10 23:22:52 2018 From: casner at acm.org (Stephen Casner) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 23:22:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [ih] OT: looking for a contact at the Computer History Museum In-Reply-To: References: <165427A0-9AEB-4884-9766-431D5A4DD99F@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Dec 2018, Joly MacFie wrote: > While we are on the CHM topic. Was the MOAD event on Sunday video'd. Definitely, with the whole professional multiple camera setup. > Available? That I don't know. -- Steve From joly at punkcast.com Sat Dec 29 15:54:33 2018 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:54:33 -0500 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 4 - Dr. Larry Roberts - 'The ARPANET & Computer Networks' Message-ID: Dr. Roberts is much mourned by those who knew him. This is a great talk, not just historical -- he makes some predictions too. Interesting to see the perspective from 1986. [image: livestream] Today, *Saturday December 29 2018*, at *7pm EST* (00:00 UTC) the fourth installment of the Internet Society Livestreaming ?s ?*12 days of Streams*? annual highlights is a memorial and tribute to Internet Hall of Fame inductee *Dr. Lawrence (Larry) Roberts *, who *died on December 26, aged 82*. Larry Roberts was the leader of the *ARPANET * project that gave birth to the Internet as we know it. Today?s stream is a video that the *Computer History Museum * managed to archive of the *1986 ACM Conference on the History of Personal Workstations *. Dr. Roberts, one of a number of distinguished speakers, givea a talk ?*The ARPANET & Computer Networks *? in which describes the network?s origin and evolution. As an introduction, we will stream his *acceptance speech * at the Internet Hall of Fame. *View on Livestream: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04 * *Twitter: #12streams http://bit.ly/2SgU9Gu * *Larry Roberts http://bit.ly/larryroberts * *Permalink* https://isoc.live/10751/ -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jack at 3kitty.org Sat Dec 29 16:55:17 2018 From: jack at 3kitty.org (Jack Haverty) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 16:55:17 -0800 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 4 - Dr. Larry Roberts - 'The ARPANET & Computer Networks' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <535c9446-6d08-0474-e93e-a98dfa5761c3@3kitty.org> On 12/29/18 3:54 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: > *View on Livestream:?https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04* Grmmpphh.... All I get is "Video could not load or timed out", even though I'm on a 100 Mb/s Internet connection. Are livestream videos archived somewhere (Youtube?) for posterity? /Jack From brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com Sat Dec 29 17:56:14 2018 From: brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com (Brian E Carpenter) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:56:14 +1300 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 4 - Dr. Larry Roberts - 'The ARPANET & Computer Networks' In-Reply-To: <535c9446-6d08-0474-e93e-a98dfa5761c3@3kitty.org> References: <535c9446-6d08-0474-e93e-a98dfa5761c3@3kitty.org> Message-ID: Looking the qoted text in your message, there seems to be a redundant asterisk in the URL. The URL https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04 worked for me. Regards Brian On 2018-12-30 13:55, Jack Haverty wrote: > On 12/29/18 3:54 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: >> *View on Livestream:?https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04* > > Grmmpphh.... All I get is "Video could not load or timed out", even > though I'm on a 100 Mb/s Internet connection. > > Are livestream videos archived somewhere (Youtube?) for posterity? > /Jack > _______ > internet-history mailing list > internet-history at postel.org > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. > From jack at 3kitty.org Sat Dec 29 19:33:38 2018 From: jack at 3kitty.org (Jack Haverty) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 19:33:38 -0800 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 4 - Dr. Larry Roberts - 'The ARPANET & Computer Networks' In-Reply-To: References: <535c9446-6d08-0474-e93e-a98dfa5761c3@3kitty.org> Message-ID: Thanks, but that isn't the problem. With Firefox, I get to the Livestream site, and it puts up the video window with a frozen frame, stays like that for a few seconds, and then simply says "Video could not load or timed out." With Chrome, similar behavior but it just sits there forever displaying a spinning circle instead of an error message. Maybe my desktop just can't do Vimeo for some reason. Wish it had a more helpful error message. /Jack On 12/29/18 5:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Looking the qoted text in your message, there seems to be a redundant > asterisk in the URL. The URL > https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04 > worked for me. > > Regards > Brian > > On 2018-12-30 13:55, Jack Haverty wrote: >> On 12/29/18 3:54 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: >>> *View on Livestream:?https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04* >> >> Grmmpphh.... All I get is "Video could not load or timed out", even >> though I'm on a 100 Mb/s Internet connection. >> >> Are livestream videos archived somewhere (Youtube?) for posterity? >> /Jack >> _______ >> internet-history mailing list >> internet-history at postel.org >> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history >> Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. >> > From joly at punkcast.com Sat Dec 29 23:16:18 2018 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 02:16:18 -0500 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 4 - Dr. Larry Roberts - 'The ARPANET & Computer Networks' In-Reply-To: References: <535c9446-6d08-0474-e93e-a98dfa5761c3@3kitty.org> Message-ID: Apologies to anyone that had problems. No idea where the * came from. Apart from livestream there were 2 simulcasts, so we have https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04 https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live/status/1079165375793684481 https://www.facebook.com/InternetSociety/videos/322883428324459/ The original videos are at IHOF https://youtu.be/P7Pj1i6e0s4 ACM https://youtu.be/qkD4HVRnGJE On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:33 PM Jack Haverty wrote: > Thanks, but that isn't the problem. With Firefox, I get to the > Livestream site, and it puts up the video window with a frozen frame, > stays like that for a few seconds, and then simply says "Video could not > load or timed out." With Chrome, similar behavior but it just sits > there forever displaying a spinning circle instead of an error message. > > Maybe my desktop just can't do Vimeo for some reason. Wish it had a > more helpful error message. > > /Jack > > > On 12/29/18 5:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Looking the qoted text in your message, there seems to be a redundant > > asterisk in the URL. The URL > > https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04 > > worked for me. > > > > Regards > > Brian > > > > On 2018-12-30 13:55, Jack Haverty wrote: > >> On 12/29/18 3:54 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: > >>> *View on Livestream: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04* > >> > >> Grmmpphh.... All I get is "Video could not load or timed out", even > >> though I'm on a 100 Mb/s Internet connection. > >> > >> Are livestream videos archived somewhere (Youtube?) for posterity? > >> /Jack > >> _______ > >> internet-history mailing list > >> internet-history at postel.org > >> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > >> Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. > >> > > > _______ > internet-history mailing list > internet-history at postel.org > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jack at 3kitty.org Sun Dec 30 10:43:28 2018 From: jack at 3kitty.org (Jack Haverty) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 10:43:28 -0800 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 4 - Dr. Larry Roberts - 'The ARPANET & Computer Networks' In-Reply-To: References: <535c9446-6d08-0474-e93e-a98dfa5761c3@3kitty.org> Message-ID: Thanks Joly. I can download the video from youtube and it works fine. A little googling reveals that there's apparently some bug somewhere which causes problem behavior with viewing Vimeo videos in Firefox or Chrome. It's not the asterisk. See for example: https://www.computergk.com/vimeo-videos-not-playing-in-chrome-firefox/ There's suggested workarounds in that article. Firefox and Chrome are pretty popular, and work fine with lots of videos, but there must be something about Vimeo that causes problems. /Jack On 12/29/18 11:16 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: > Apologies to anyone that had problems. No idea where the * came from. > > Apart from livestream there were 2 simulcasts, so we have > https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04 > https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live/status/1079165375793684481 > https://www.facebook.com/InternetSociety/videos/322883428324459/ > > The original videos are at > IHOF?https://youtu.be/P7Pj1i6e0s4 > ACM?https://youtu.be/qkD4HVRnGJE > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:33 PM Jack Haverty > wrote: > > Thanks, but that isn't the problem.? With Firefox, I get to the > Livestream site, and it puts up the video window with a frozen frame, > stays like that for a few seconds, and then simply says "Video could not > load or timed out."? With Chrome, similar behavior but it just sits > there forever displaying a spinning circle instead of an error message. > > Maybe my desktop just can't do Vimeo for some reason.? Wish it had a > more helpful error message. > > /Jack > > > On 12/29/18 5:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Looking the qoted text in your message, there seems to be a redundant > > asterisk in the URL. The URL > > https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04 > > worked for me. > > > > Regards > >? ? Brian > > > > On 2018-12-30 13:55, Jack Haverty wrote: > >> On 12/29/18 3:54 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: > >>> *View on > Livestream:?https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days04* > >> > >> Grmmpphh.... All I get is "Video could not load or timed out", even > >> though I'm on a 100 Mb/s Internet connection. > >> > >> Are livestream videos archived somewhere (Youtube?) for posterity? > >> /Jack > >> _______ > >> internet-history mailing list > >> internet-history at postel.org > >> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > >> Contact list-owner at postel.org for > assistance. > >> > > > _______ > internet-history mailing list > internet-history at postel.org > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > Contact list-owner at postel.org for > assistance. > > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie? 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > -------------------------------------------------------------- > - From galmes at tamu.edu Sun Dec 30 11:34:54 2018 From: galmes at tamu.edu (Guy Almes) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:34:54 -0500 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 4 - Dr. Larry Roberts - 'The ARPANET & Computer Networks' In-Reply-To: References: <535c9446-6d08-0474-e93e-a98dfa5761c3@3kitty.org> Message-ID: <043108e0-bec0-bcf6-729e-b56a3bb1bea2@tamu.edu> Joly et al., This is very interesting. And it reminds me of the tremendous contributions that Larry made. Just referring to the two "original" videos below, I found the second, labelled "ACM" to be fascinating. Some on the list were probably present for that Bay Area ACM meeting on the emerging phenomenon of "workstations" as the new big thing. In that 1986 context, Larry's talk is all the more interesting both for what he emphasized and for what he missed. His memories of the late-1950s TX-series machines (his 'personal' computers) and particularly of his insights on the evolution of the ARPAnet program through the early/mid-1970s struck me as spot on. Then there is a fascinating and intelligent discussion of Telenet as the "successor" to the ARPAnet, the emergence of X.25 as an international standard, and his thoughts on the value of commercial packet-switched (but what I took to be virtual-circuit) networks crafted to address cutting-edge applications such as image transfer. In hindsight at least, it is startling that the Internet is nowhere mentioned in his talk. The only real, but partial, allusion to it comes in the Q/A session near the very end. An audience member I don't know referred in his question to the "military standard protocols"; in Larry's response I took him to be dismissive of those "military standard protocols". The then-emerging "international standard protocols" seemed to be viewed much more positively. While Barry Leiner correctly noted that the "international standard protocols" had some major missing pieces, he also spoke of them as the coming thing. I don't think that anyone, either Larry Roberts or any of those in the Q/A session, used the word Internet or referred to the "military standard protocols" (i.e., TCP/IP), in a positive light. Again, this is 1986. If I understand things correctly, the debate within the emerging NSFnet project about whether to use TCP/IP was contemporary with this 1986 Bay Area ACM meeting. Did I hear this correctly? I'd be particularly interested in hearing from anyone who was present for the Bay Area ACM meeting. -- Guy The original videos are at IHOF https://youtu.be/P7Pj1i6e0s4 ACM https://youtu.be/qkD4HVRnGJE On 12/30/18 02:16, Joly MacFie wrote: > Apologies to anyone that had problems. No idea where the * came from. > > Apart from livestream there were 2 simulcasts, so we have... > > The original videos are at... > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:33 PM Jack Haverty > wrote: > > Thanks, but that isn't the problem.? With Firefox, I get to the > Livestream site, and it puts up the video window with a frozen frame, > stays like that for a few seconds, and then simply says "Video could not > load or timed out."? With Chrome, similar behavior but it just sits > there forever displaying a spinning circle instead of an error message. > > Maybe my desktop just can't do Vimeo for some reason.? Wish it had a > more helpful error message. > > /Jack > > > On 12/29/18 5:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Looking the qoted text in your message, there seems to be a redundant > > asterisk in the URL. The URL... > > worked for me. > > > > Regards > >? ? Brian > > > > On 2018-12-30 13:55, Jack Haverty wrote: > >> On 12/29/18 3:54 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: > >>> *View on Livestream:... > >> > >> Grmmpphh.... All I get is "Video could not load or timed out", even > >> though I'm on a 100 Mb/s Internet connection. > >> > >> Are livestream videos archived somewhere (Youtube?) for posterity? > >> /Jack > >> _______ > >> internet-history mailing list > >> internet-history at postel.org > >> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > > >> Contact list-owner at postel.org for > assistance. > >> > > > _______ > internet-history mailing list > internet-history at postel.org > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > > Contact list-owner at postel.org for > assistance. > > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > -------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > _______ > internet-history mailing list > internet-history at postel.org > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. > From scott.brim at gmail.com Sun Dec 30 13:51:57 2018 From: scott.brim at gmail.com (Scott Brim) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:51:57 -0500 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 4 - Dr. Larry Roberts - 'The ARPANET & Computer Networks' In-Reply-To: References: <535c9446-6d08-0474-e93e-a98dfa5761c3@3kitty.org> Message-ID: Great to see him young and healthy. (I learned from him that sugar is the primary thing to avoid.) From brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com Sun Dec 30 14:25:45 2018 From: brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com (Brian E Carpenter) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:25:45 +1300 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 4 - Dr. Larry Roberts - 'The ARPANET & Computer Networks' In-Reply-To: <043108e0-bec0-bcf6-729e-b56a3bb1bea2@tamu.edu> References: <535c9446-6d08-0474-e93e-a98dfa5761c3@3kitty.org> <043108e0-bec0-bcf6-729e-b56a3bb1bea2@tamu.edu> Message-ID: <5c63f5aa-e34e-0e19-a82f-6e5de0dddfb5@gmail.com> Guy, I was certainly not at that meeting in 1986, but I think your analysis is spot on. Over in Europe many of us would have said much the same, with an emphasis on "*American* military standards" in a slightly disparaging tone. Looking at the reports I wrote about CERN network policy in 1985/86, it's clear that we saw TCP/IP as an interim solution. It was another three years before I wrote "Is OSI Too Late?" [Computer Networks and ISDN Systems, 17 (1989) 284-286]. Regards Brian On 2018-12-31 08:34, Guy Almes wrote: > Joly et al., > This is very interesting. And it reminds me of the tremendous > contributions that Larry made. > > Just referring to the two "original" videos below, I found the > second, labelled "ACM" to be fascinating. Some on the list were > probably present for that Bay Area ACM meeting on the emerging > phenomenon of "workstations" as the new big thing. > In that 1986 context, Larry's talk is all the more interesting both > for what he emphasized and for what he missed. > His memories of the late-1950s TX-series machines (his 'personal' > computers) and particularly of his insights on the evolution of the > ARPAnet program through the early/mid-1970s struck me as spot on. > Then there is a fascinating and intelligent discussion of Telenet as > the "successor" to the ARPAnet, the emergence of X.25 as an > international standard, and his thoughts on the value of commercial > packet-switched (but what I took to be virtual-circuit) networks crafted > to address cutting-edge applications such as image transfer. > > In hindsight at least, it is startling that the Internet is nowhere > mentioned in his talk. The only real, but partial, allusion to it comes > in the Q/A session near the very end. An audience member I don't know > referred in his question to the "military standard protocols"; in > Larry's response I took him to be dismissive of those "military standard > protocols". The then-emerging "international standard protocols" seemed > to be viewed much more positively. > While Barry Leiner correctly noted that the "international standard > protocols" had some major missing pieces, he also spoke of them as the > coming thing. > I don't think that anyone, either Larry Roberts or any of those in > the Q/A session, used the word Internet or referred to the "military > standard protocols" (i.e., TCP/IP), in a positive light. > Again, this is 1986. > If I understand things correctly, the debate within the emerging > NSFnet project about whether to use TCP/IP was contemporary with this > 1986 Bay Area ACM meeting. > > Did I hear this correctly? > I'd be particularly interested in hearing from anyone who was present > for the Bay Area ACM meeting. > > -- Guy > > The original videos are at > IHOF https://youtu.be/P7Pj1i6e0s4 > ACM https://youtu.be/qkD4HVRnGJE > > On 12/30/18 02:16, Joly MacFie wrote: >> Apologies to anyone that had problems. No idea where the * came from. >> >> Apart from livestream there were 2 simulcasts, so we have... >> >> The original videos are at... >> >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:33 PM Jack Haverty > > wrote: >> >> Thanks, but that isn't the problem.? With Firefox, I get to the >> Livestream site, and it puts up the video window with a frozen frame, >> stays like that for a few seconds, and then simply says "Video could not >> load or timed out."? With Chrome, similar behavior but it just sits >> there forever displaying a spinning circle instead of an error message. >> >> Maybe my desktop just can't do Vimeo for some reason.? Wish it had a >> more helpful error message. >> >> /Jack >> >> >> On 12/29/18 5:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> > Looking the qoted text in your message, there seems to be a redundant >> > asterisk in the URL. The URL... >> > worked for me. >> > >> > Regards >> >? ? Brian >> > >> > On 2018-12-30 13:55, Jack Haverty wrote: >> >> On 12/29/18 3:54 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: >> >>> *View on Livestream:... >> >> >> >> Grmmpphh.... All I get is "Video could not load or timed out", even >> >> though I'm on a 100 Mb/s Internet connection. >> >> >> >> Are livestream videos archived somewhere (Youtube?) for posterity? >> >> /Jack >> >> _______ >> >> internet-history mailing list >> >> internet-history at postel.org >> >> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history >> >> >> Contact list-owner at postel.org for >> assistance. >> >> >> > >> _______ >> internet-history mailing list >> internet-history at postel.org >> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history >> >> Contact list-owner at postel.org for >> assistance. >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> _______ >> internet-history mailing list >> internet-history at postel.org >> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history >> Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. >> > _______ > internet-history mailing list > internet-history at postel.org > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > Contact list-owner at postel.org for assistance. > From joly at punkcast.com Sun Dec 30 15:13:13 2018 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:13:13 -0500 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 5 - Digital Preservation (with Vint Cerf) Message-ID: SInce yesterday was a hit, I thought I'd mention this one too. Vint did a great job of facilitating at these two. I hope we can do some follow ups in 2019. I'd love to to see him share a stage with Jason Scott of the Internet Archive, perhaps on practicalities. [image: livestream] Today, *Sunday December 30 2018*, at *7pm EST* (00:00 UTC), for the *fifth installment* of the *Internet Society Livestreaming *?s ?*12 Days of Streams ?* annual highlights we turn to another Internet Hall of Famer, Google?s Chief Internet Evangelist *Vint Cerf *. Early in 2018 Vint collaborated with the *Internet Society New York Chapter * for two forums on *Digital Preservation * ? the *first in DC * focused on policy, the *second in NYC *focused on incentives. With guest experts *Kate Zwaard*, chief of National Digital Initiatives at the Library of Congress, *Michelle M. Wu*, Associate Dean for Library Services at Georgetown University Law Center, *Robert Cartolano*, AVP for Technology and Preservation, Columbia University Libraries, and *Brad Burnham*, Managing Partner, Union Square Ventures, these well attended events fostered lively discussions and an (ironically unpreserved) *dedicated website* . *VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days05/ * *TWITTER: @isocny + #digitalpreservation http://bit.ly/isocnydp * *Permalink* https://isoc.live/10758/ -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joly at punkcast.com Sun Dec 30 17:08:47 2018 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:08:47 -0500 Subject: [ih] ISOC Live 12 Streams 5 - Digital Preservation (with Vint Cerf) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Apologies to everyone that tuned in and got noise. After I started I set it on autopilot and went out to do grocery shopping. Gremlins got in, somehow. I'll restart at 8:15 ET (01:15 UTC) On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 6:13 PM Joly MacFie wrote: > SInce yesterday was a hit, I thought I'd mention this one too. Vint did a > great job of facilitating at these two. I hope we can do some follow ups in > 2019. I'd love to to see him share a stage with Jason Scott > of the Internet Archive, > perhaps on practicalities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [image: livestream] > Today, *Sunday December 30 2018*, at *7pm EST* (00:00 UTC), for the *fifth > installment* of the *Internet Society Livestreaming *?s > ?*12 Days of Streams ?* annual > highlights we turn to another Internet Hall of Famer, Google?s Chief > Internet Evangelist *Vint Cerf > *. Early in 2018 > Vint collaborated with the *Internet Society New York Chapter > * for two forums on *Digital Preservation > * ? > the *first in DC * focused on policy, the *second > in NYC *focused on incentives. With guest > experts *Kate Zwaard*, chief of National Digital Initiatives at the > Library of Congress, *Michelle M. Wu*, Associate Dean for Library > Services at Georgetown University Law Center, *Robert Cartolano*, AVP for > Technology and Preservation, Columbia University Libraries, and *Brad > Burnham*, Managing Partner, Union Square Ventures, these well attended > events fostered lively discussions and an (ironically unpreserved) *dedicated > website* > > . > > > *VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days05/ > * > > *TWITTER: @isocny + #digitalpreservation http://bit.ly/isocnydp > * > > > *Permalink* > > https://isoc.live/10758/ > > > > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > -------------------------------------------------------------- > - > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joly at punkcast.com Mon Dec 31 15:36:44 2018 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 18:36:44 -0500 Subject: [ih] 12 Streams #6 - Larry Irving - Silicon Harlem: A Look Forward and a Look Back Message-ID: Brooklyn is in the house. Unlike other Larrys, Larry Irving is not in the Internet Hall of Fame, although he should be. As the USA's top ICT guy in the 90s he oversaw much of the Internet's growth as he re-negotiated domestic & global regulation, to which he brought a keen sense of digital equity, He is credited with inventing the term "Digital Divide. [image: livestream] Today, *Monday December 31 2018*, at *7pm EST* (00:00 UTC), in the sixth installment of the *Internet Society Livestreaming *?s ?*12 Days of Streams *? annual highlights we feature former NTIA Administrator (1992-1999) *Larry Irving * speaking at the *2019 Next-Gen Tech Conference * at the National Black Theater in Harlem. As our last stream of 2018, appropriately the theme of his remarks at the ?*Silicon Harlem: A Look Forward and a Look Back*?, delivered right after he had been surprised with the *Charles B. Rangel Innovative Person Award*. *VIEW ON LIVESTREAM: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/12days06/ * *TWITTER: #12streams http://bit.ly/2SgU9Gu * *Permalink* https://isoc.live/10763/ -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast -------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: