From brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com  Sat Sep  9 14:30:15 2017
From: brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com (Brian E Carpenter)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:30:15 +1200
Subject: [ih] =?utf-8?q?Dude_who_claimed_he_invented_email_is_told_by_judg?=
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/07/email_inventor_has_libel_lawsuit_tossed/





From dhc2 at dcrocker.net  Sat Sep  9 16:39:47 2017
From: dhc2 at dcrocker.net (Dave Crocker)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 16:39:47 -0700
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> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/07/email_inventor_has_libel_lawsuit_tossed/


I've heard that his attorney has already indicated they will appeal.

d/

ps. BTW, the judge's opinion is pretty interesting reading, for the 
details it goes into.

-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net


From brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com  Sat Sep  9 16:58:58 2017
From: brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com (Brian E Carpenter)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 11:58:58 +1200
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[ih]_Dude_who_claimed_he_invented_email_is_told_by_ju?=
	=?UTF-8?Q?dge:_It's_safe_to_say_you_didn't_invent_email_=e2=80=a2_The_Regis?=
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On 10/09/2017 11:39, Dave Crocker wrote:
> 
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/07/email_inventor_has_libel_lawsuit_tossed/
> 
> 
> I've heard that his attorney has already indicated they will appeal.
> 
> d/
> 
> ps. BTW, the judge's opinion is pretty interesting reading, for the 
> details it goes into.

Especially this bit perhaps:

>> Ayyadurai?s claim to have invented e-mail ?prey[s] on . . . an almost fraudulent misquoting of Dave Crocker.?

There are other gems in the opinion too. I liked these:

>> Whether words like ?fake? or ?phony? are imprecise is context-dependent.

>> the First Circuit held that because ?the word ?scam? does not have a precise meaning[,] . . . the assertion ?X is a scam? [is] incapable of being proved true or false.?

    Brian






    Brian

 




From johnl at iecc.com  Sat Sep  9 19:37:05 2017
From: johnl at iecc.com (John Levine)
Date: 10 Sep 2017 02:37:05 -0000
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:
	_[ih]_Dude_who_claimed_he_invented_email_is_told_by_ju?=
	=?UTF-8?Q?dge:_It's_safe_to_say_you_didn't_invent_email_=e2=80=a2_The_Regis?=
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In article <38639132-9816-4de5-a010-d2241e22f075 at dcrocker.net>,
Dave Crocker  <dcrocker at bbiw.net> wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/07/email_inventor_has_libel_lawsuit_tossed/
>
>I've heard that his attorney has already indicated they will appeal.

Yes, Ars Technica said that.  The decision is closely reasoned and
it's hard for me to see on what basis Harder (the lawyer) would appeal
other than bluster.

R's,
John


From paf at frobbit.se  Sat Sep  9 22:45:48 2017
From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 07:45:48 +0200
Subject: [ih] Dude who claimed he invented email is told by judge: It's
	safe to say you didn't invent email =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=A2?= The Register
In-Reply-To: <20170910023705.16047.qmail@ary.lan>
References: <20170910023705.16047.qmail@ary.lan>
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On 10 Sep 2017, at 4:37, John Levine wrote:

> Yes, Ars Technica said that.  The decision is closely reasoned and
> it's hard for me to see on what basis Harder (the lawyer) would appeal
> other than bluster.

That the lawyer wants to sell more hours in a case like this that is so popular?

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From joly at punkcast.com  Sun Sep 10 08:24:12 2017
From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 15:24:12 +0000
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With Thiele?s deep pockets, why not?

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 1:45 AM Patrik F?ltstr?m <paf at frobbit.se> wrote:

> On 10 Sep 2017, at 4:37, John Levine wrote:
>
> > Yes, Ars Technica said that.  The decision is closely reasoned and
> > it's hard for me to see on what basis Harder (the lawyer) would appeal
> > other than bluster.
>
> That the lawyer wants to sell more hours in a case like this that is so
> popular?
>
>    paf
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From johnl at iecc.com  Sun Sep 10 10:44:13 2017
From: johnl at iecc.com (John R. Levine)
Date: 10 Sep 2017 13:44:13 -0400
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5Bih=5D_Dude_who_claimed_he_invented_email?=
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Joly MacFie wrote:
> With Thiele?s deep pockets, why not?

Ayyadurai claims he is funding this case and I believe him. For one thing, 
he can afford it, for antother, nobody else with any money cares.  (Thiel 
had a long standing grudge against Gawker.)

>>> Yes, Ars Technica said that.  The decision is closely reasoned and
>>> it's hard for me to see on what basis Harder (the lawyer) would appeal
>>> other than bluster.
>>
>> That the lawyer wants to sell more hours in a case like this that is so
>> popular?

From richard at bennett.com  Mon Sep 11 20:32:58 2017
From: richard at bennett.com (Richard Bennett)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:32:58 -0600
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re=3A_=5Bih=5D_Dude_who_claimed_he_invented_email_is_to?=
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Ayyadurai should sue Harder for allowing him to think he had even a hint of a case. Even if the facts are as he alleged (which they aren?t), he still loses because the 1st Amendment protects trolling (?hyperbole?). 

The most interesting part of the opinion to me was the question of jurisdiction because that applies in all Internet cases. It?s unfortunate that the judge had to go with Mass law instead of Cali law, because Mass law is pretty bad in these cases. Strangely, it protects lobbying but not free speech. 

It?s also really cool to see Harder lose because he was the scumbag lawyer in the Gawker case. Dude?s not exactly a graceful loser.

RB

> On Sep 10, 2017, at 11:44 AM, John R. Levine <johnl at iecc.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Joly MacFie wrote:
>> With Thiele?s deep pockets, why not?
> 
> Ayyadurai claims he is funding this case and I believe him. For one thing, he can afford it, for antother, nobody else with any money cares.  (Thiel had a long standing grudge against Gawker.)
> 
>>>> Yes, Ars Technica said that.  The decision is closely reasoned and
>>>> it's hard for me to see on what basis Harder (the lawyer) would appeal
>>>> other than bluster.
>>> 
>>> That the lawyer wants to sell more hours in a case like this that is so
>>> popular?
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From camillepaloqueberges at gmail.com  Mon Sep 18 03:44:50 2017
From: camillepaloqueberges at gmail.com (Camille Paloque-Berges)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:44:50 +0200
Subject: [ih] Call for papers for the Internet histories journal :
	Arpanet (1969-2019)
In-Reply-To: <CA+kQp6EXJVQh6mK==GxgKkHkWeA4B=Cu3HMv-TyjsckxiNcYtA@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear all,

As a reminder, the call for papers regarding the history of the Arpanet for
the *Internet histories *journal is still running until October 15th. We
encourage you to submit for this special issue that will mark the 50th
anniversary of the pionneer and legendary digital network.

Best regards,
Val?rie Schafer and Camille Paloque-Berges

>
> --
>
> *Call For Papers: ARPANET (1969-2019)*
>
> *Camille Paloque-Berges & Val?rie Schafer (ed.) *
>
>
>
> *Special issue of Internet Histories. Digital Technology, Culture and
> Society.*
>
>
> This call for papers aims at revisiting the history of ARPANET, its
> genesis, development, heritage, memories and the writing of its history 50
> years after the first four nodes came into service.
>
> ARPANET?s story is today part of the Internet?s official heritage, as a
> first crucial step in its development. Seminal research, such as Janet
> Abbate?s *Inventing the Internet* (1999) or Alexandre Serres? *Aux
> sources d?Internet: l??mergence d?ARPANET* (2000) has extensively covered
> its history. However, the 50th anniversary of ARPANET provides an
> occasion to reflect on existing histories, to open the debate to new
> perspectives and approaches.
>
> What have these pioneering researchers provided and what lessons have they
> taught us in terms of studying the history of computer networks? When
> considering ARPANET as a first step towards the Internet: how did this
> determine ? and is still determining ? our current understanding of the
> Internet and of the ARPANET? What other chronologies and territories
> involving the ARPANET can be advanced? What is left to explore and discover
> in the ARPANET?s history? If the ARPANET is dead today, are its heritage
> and spirit still alive and if so, how?
>
> Suggested topics:
>
> -       The ARPANET?s inspirations:  previous concepts, models, theories,
> technologies
>
> -       Development of computer networks from the mid-1960s to the
> mid-1980s: society, culture, politics and economics in the ARPANET?s times
> (from a local, national and international perspective)
>
> -       The place of ARPANET in the history of ARPA/DARPA or funding
> agencies more generally
>
> -       The place of ARPANET within the history of military networks
>
> -       Trajectories of ARPANET?s developments: from experiments to
> achievements, through mistakes and failures
>
> -       ARPANET?s communities: from developers to users
>
> -       ARPANET?s hardware and software within the history of computers
> and computing
>
> -       Famous and less-known protagonists or witnesses of ARPANET
>
> -       Spaces, places, maps, territories, geographies, and geopolitics
> of ARPANET
>
> -       Communicating with, through, and about ARPANET
>
> -       ARPANET as a model: reception and influence on other networks
> and/or in other countries
>
> -       ARPANET?s governance and architecture
>
> -       ARPANET and infrastructures for digital information
>
> -       ARPANET?s cultures: perimeters, specificities, limits ?
>
> -       The history of networks shaping collaborative work
>
> -       Writing ARPANET?s history: critical historiography, methodology,
> epistemological issues
>
> -       New discoveries in the history of ARPANET
>
> -       ARPANET?s heritage in the present Internet and digital cultures
>
>
> Of course, we encourage and welcome other topics and perspectives on
> ARPANET?s history too.
>
>
> * Submissions*
>
> The proposals are to be submitted to
>
> camillepaloqueberges at gmail.com
>
> valerieschafer at wanadoo.fr
>
> explicitly mentioning *CFP ARPANET*.
>
>
> They need to fit in one page, detail an explicit angle of analysis and
> outline, and integrate a short bibliography.
>
> Successful authors will be invited to submit then a full paper through
> the editorial system, which will undergo full peer review and will
> determine acceptance of papers for publication.
>
>
> *Calendar*
>
> Deadline for the submission of proposals: October 15th 2017
>
> Notification of proposal acceptance: November 15th 2017
>
> Submissions of the full paper (6000-8000 words): April 15th 2018
>
> Feedback based on reviews: June 30th 2018
>
> Deadline for Revisions: October 15th 2018
>
>
> *Internet Histories: Digital Technology, Culture and Society* is an
> international, inter-disciplinary peer-reviewed journal concerned with
> research on the cultural, social, political and technological histories of
> the internet and associated digital cultures.
>
>
> More information on the journal can be found at
>
> http://www.tandfonline.com/action/journalInformation?show=ai
> msScope&journalCode=rint20
>
>
> Instructions for Authors are available at
>
> http://www.tandfonline.com/action/authorSubmission?show=inst
> ructions&journalCode=rint20#Word_limits
>
>
> Should you have any questions regarding this CfP, please feel free to
> contact us:
>
> camillepaloqueberges at gmail.com
>
> valerieschafer at wanadoo.fr <valerie.schafer at cnrs.fr>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Institutional email address : camille.paloque_berges at cnam.fr
> *Laboratory for the History of Techno-Sciences (HT2S), Conservatoire
> national des arts et m?tiers, 2 rue Cont?, 75003 Paris, France
> *Associate researcher at the Digital Paths cluster of CNRS' Institute for
> Communication Sciences (ISCC)
>
>
>
> --
> Institutional email address : camille.paloque_berges at cnam.fr
> *Laboratory for the History of Techno-Sciences (HT2S), Conservatoire
> national des arts et m?tiers, 2 rue Cont?, 75003 Paris, France
> *Associate researcher at the Digital Paths cluster of CNRS' Institute for
> Communication Sciences (ISCC)
>



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*Laboratory for the History of Techno-Sciences (HT2S), Conservatoire
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From joly at punkcast.com  Mon Sep 18 17:07:35 2017
From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:07:35 -0400
Subject: [ih] Internet Hall of Fame 2017 Induction Ceremony Livestream
Message-ID: <CAM9VJk1jvuM3ViyOXnhxnwp6o3Uz3=qO2+nRPrA3x88JFe9j9g@mail.gmail.com>

Forget the Emmies, these are the only awards that matter!


Starts at 17:30 PDT (00:30 UTC)  = 8:30pm - proime time in NYC!

Livestream: https://livestream.com/internetsociety/ihof2017

YouTube: https://youtu.be/U0AQ9lYgFRU

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InternetSociety/

Live Transcript: Transcript:
https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ISOCIntercommunity2017

Twitter: https://twitter.com/Internet_HOF


This will kick off InterCommunity 2017
Schedule : https://www.internetsociety.org/intercommunity/2017/schedule

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From mfidelman at meetinghouse.net  Fri Sep 22 22:19:04 2017
From: mfidelman at meetinghouse.net (Miles Fidelman)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 22:19:04 -0700
Subject: [ih] Call for papers for the Internet histories journal :
 Arpanet (1969-2019)
In-Reply-To: <CA+kQp6EENN2Qav-Jytz2FQPP7e1fTxsX9ir9RQpSaeG8eRdeow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+kQp6EXJVQh6mK==GxgKkHkWeA4B=Cu3HMv-TyjsckxiNcYtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+kQp6EENN2Qav-Jytz2FQPP7e1fTxsX9ir9RQpSaeG8eRdeow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e4c3007f-dd49-bc07-a029-25f516dfd62f@meetinghouse.net>

After distributing the CFP to some colleagues at BBN - who were there at 
the beginning, someone pointed out that this is a new, and rather 
expensive publication - and the basic response was "screw that, why 
write for a journal that few people will actually read."

Miles Fidelman, BBN 1985-1992 (more like the end of the ARPANET era).


On 9/18/17 3:44 AM, Camille Paloque-Berges wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> As a reminder, the call for papers regarding the history of the 
> Arpanet for the /Internet histories /journal is still running until 
> October 15th. We encourage you to submit for this special issue that 
> will mark the 50th anniversary of the pionneer and legendary digital 
> network.
>
> Best regards,
> Val?rie Schafer and Camille Paloque-Berges
>
>
>     --
>     *
>     *
>     *Call For Papers: ARPANET (1969-2019)*
>
>     *Camille Paloque-Berges & Val?rie Schafer (ed.) *
>
>     **
>
>     *Special issue of /Internet Histories. Digital Technology, Culture
>     and Society./*
>
>
>     This call for papers aims at revisiting the history of ARPANET,
>     its genesis, development, heritage, memories and the writing of
>     its history 50 years after the first four nodes came into service.
>
>     ARPANET?s story is today part of the Internet?s official heritage,
>     as a first crucial step in its development. Seminal research, such
>     as Janet Abbate?s /Inventing the Internet/?(1999) or Alexandre
>     Serres? /Aux sources d?Internet: l??mergence d?ARPANET/?(2000) has
>     extensively covered its history. However, the 50^th ?anniversary
>     of ARPANET provides an occasion to reflect on existing histories,
>     to open the debate to new perspectives and approaches.
>
>     What have these pioneering researchers provided and what lessons
>     have they taught us in terms of studying the history of computer
>     networks? When considering ARPANET as a first step towards the
>     Internet: how did this determine ? and is still determining ? our
>     current understanding of the Internet and of the ARPANET? What
>     other chronologies and territories involving the ARPANET can be
>     advanced? What is left to explore and discover in the ARPANET?s
>     history? If the ARPANET is dead today, are its heritage and spirit
>     still alive and if so, how?
>
>
>     Suggested topics:
>
>     -The ARPANET?s inspirations:? previous concepts, models, theories,
>     technologies
>
>     -Development of computer networks from the mid-1960s to the
>     mid-1980s: society, culture, politics and economics in the
>     ARPANET?s times (from a local, national and international perspective)
>
>     -The place of ARPANET in the history of ARPA/DARPA or funding
>     agencies more generally
>
>     -The place of ARPANET within the history of military networks
>
>     -Trajectories of ARPANET?s developments: from experiments to
>     achievements, through mistakes and failures
>
>     -ARPANET?s communities: from developers to users
>
>     -ARPANET?s hardware and software within the history of computers
>     and computing
>
>     -Famous and less-known protagonists or witnesses of ARPANET
>
>     -Spaces, places, maps, territories, geographies, and geopolitics
>     of ARPANET
>
>     -Communicating with, through, and about ARPANET
>
>     -ARPANET as a model: reception and influence on other networks
>     and/or in other countries
>
>     -ARPANET?s governance and architecture
>
>     -ARPANET and infrastructures for digital information
>
>     -ARPANET?s cultures: perimeters, specificities, limits ?
>
>     -The history of networks shaping collaborative work
>
>     -Writing ARPANET?s history: critical historiography, methodology,
>     epistemological issues
>
>     -New discoveries in the history of ARPANET
>
>     -ARPANET?s heritage in the present Internet and digital cultures
>
>
>     Of course, we encourage and welcome other topics and perspectives
>     on ARPANET?s history too.
>
>
>     *?Submissions*
>
>     The proposals are to be submitted to
>
>     camillepaloqueberges at gmail.com <mailto:camillepaloqueberges at gmail.com>
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>     valerieschafer at wanadoo.fr <mailto:valerieschafer at wanadoo.fr>
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>     explicitly mentioning *CFP ARPANET*.
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>     They need to fit in one page, detail an explicit angle of analysis
>     and outline, and integrate a short bibliography.
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>     Successful authors will be invited to submit then a full paper
>     through the editorial system, which will undergo full peer review
>     and will determine acceptance of papers for publication.
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>     *Calendar*
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>     Deadline for Revisions: October 15^th ?2018
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>     /Internet Histories: Digital Technology, Culture and Society/**is
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>     technological histories of the internet and associated digital
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From dave.walden.family at gmail.com  Fri Sep 22 22:49:56 2017
From: dave.walden.family at gmail.com (David Walden)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 07:49:56 +0200
Subject: [ih] Call for papers for the Internet histories journal :
	Arpanet (1969-2019)
Message-ID: <nyjfjh2rbsymdsou0ri05p75.1506145796907@email.android.com>

The academic computing historians will read it.  Their writings will be the archive of history when the participants are gone. 

On September 23, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net> wrote:

After distributing the CFP to some colleagues at BBN - who were there at the beginning, someone pointed out that this is a new, and rather expensive publication - and the basic response was "screw that, why write for a journal that few people will actually read."

Miles Fidelman, BBN 1985-1992 (more like the end of the ARPANET era).


On 9/18/17 3:44 AM, Camille Paloque-Berges wrote:

Dear all,? 


As a reminder, the call for papers regarding the history of the Arpanet for the Internet histories journal is still running until October 15th. We encourage you to submit for this special issue that will mark the 50th anniversary of the pionneer and legendary digital network.?


Best regards,

Val?rie Schafer and Camille Paloque-Berges


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Call For Papers: ARPANET (1969-2019)

Camille Paloque-Berges & Val?rie Schafer (ed.)?

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Special issue of?Internet Histories. Digital Technology, Culture and Society.

??

This call for papers aims at revisiting the history of ARPANET, its genesis, development, heritage, memories and the writing of its history 50 years after the first four nodes came into service.

ARPANET?s story is today part of the Internet?s official heritage, as a first crucial step in its development. Seminal research, such as Janet Abbate?s?Inventing the Internet?(1999) or Alexandre Serres??Aux sources d?Internet: l??mergence d?ARPANET?(2000) has extensively covered its history. However, the 50th?anniversary of ARPANET provides an occasion to reflect on existing histories, to open the debate to new perspectives and approaches. ?

What have these pioneering researchers provided and what lessons have they taught us in terms of studying the history of computer networks? When considering ARPANET as a first step towards the Internet: how did this determine ? and is still determining ? our current understanding of the Internet and of the ARPANET? What other chronologies and territories involving the ARPANET can be advanced? What is left to explore and discover in the ARPANET?s history? If the ARPANET is dead today, are its heritage and spirit still alive and if so, how?


Suggested topics:?

-???????The ARPANET?s inspirations:? previous concepts, models, theories, technologies

-???????Development of computer networks from the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s: society, culture, politics and economics in the ARPANET?s times (from a local, national and international perspective)

-???????The place of ARPANET in the history of ARPA/DARPA or funding agencies more generally

-???????The place of ARPANET within the history of military networks

-???????Trajectories of ARPANET?s developments: from experiments to achievements, through mistakes and failures

-???????ARPANET?s communities: from developers to users

-???????ARPANET?s hardware and software within the history of computers and computing?

-???????Famous and less-known protagonists or witnesses of ARPANET?

-???????Spaces, places, maps, territories, geographies, and geopolitics of ARPANET

-???????Communicating with, through, and about ARPANET?

-???????ARPANET as a model: reception and influence on other networks and/or in other countries

-???????ARPANET?s governance and architecture

-???????ARPANET and infrastructures for digital information

-???????ARPANET?s cultures: perimeters, specificities, limits ?

-???????The history of networks shaping collaborative work

-???????Writing ARPANET?s history: critical historiography, methodology, epistemological issues

-???????New discoveries in the history of ARPANET

-???????ARPANET?s heritage in the present Internet and digital cultures

?

Of course, we encourage and welcome other topics and perspectives on ARPANET?s history too.?

??

?Submissions

The proposals are to be submitted to?

camillepaloqueberges at gmail.com

valerieschafer at wanadoo.fr

explicitly mentioning?CFP ARPANET.?

?

They need to fit in one page, detail an explicit angle of analysis and outline, and integrate a short bibliography.?

Successful authors will be invited to submit then a full paper?through the editorial system, which will undergo full peer review and will determine acceptance of papers for publication.

?

Calendar

Deadline for the submission of proposals: October 15th?2017?

Notification of proposal acceptance: November 15th?2017?

Submissions of the full paper (6000-8000 words): April 15th?2018?

Feedback based on reviews: June 30th?2018?

Deadline for Revisions: October 15th?2018

?

Internet Histories: Digital Technology, Culture and Society?is an international, inter-disciplinary peer-reviewed journal concerned with research on the cultural, social, political and technological histories of the internet and associated digital cultures.

?

More information on the journal can be found at?

http://www.tandfonline.com/action/journalInformation?show=aimsScope&journalCode=rint20

?

Instructions for Authors are available at

http://www.tandfonline.com/action/authorSubmission?show=instructions&journalCode=rint20#Word_limits

?

Should you have any questions regarding this CfP, please feel free to contact us:?

camillepaloqueberges at gmail.com

valerieschafer at wanadoo.fr

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*Laboratory for the History of Techno-Sciences (HT2S),?Conservatoire national des arts et m?tiers, 2 rue Cont?, 75003 Paris, France

*Associate researcher at the?Digital Paths cluster of?CNRS' Institute for Communication Sciences (ISCC)?




-- 

Institutional email address :?camille.paloque_berges at cnam.fr

*Laboratory for the History of Techno-Sciences (HT2S),?Conservatoire national des arts et m?tiers, 2 rue Cont?, 75003 Paris, France

*Associate researcher at the?Digital Paths cluster of?CNRS' Institute for Communication Sciences (ISCC)?




-- 

Institutional email address :?camille.paloque_berges at cnam.fr

*Laboratory for the History of Techno-Sciences (HT2S),?Conservatoire national des arts et m?tiers, 2 rue Cont?, 75003 Paris, France

*Associate researcher at the?Digital Paths cluster of?CNRS' Institute for Communication Sciences (ISCC)?



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From bill.n1vux at gmail.com  Sat Sep 23 10:06:09 2017
From: bill.n1vux at gmail.com (Bill Ricker)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:06:09 -0400
Subject: [ih] Call for papers for the Internet histories journal :
	Arpanet (1969-2019)
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References: <nyjfjh2rbsymdsou0ri05p75.1506145796907@email.android.com>
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Is it an Open Access journal?

If so, whatever they charge archival libraries for archival deadtree copies
is OK.

If it's a paywall archive, seems an antithetical place for Internet history.

(I was hoping it was a poorly worded Conference announcement, but no.)
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From johnl at iecc.com  Sat Sep 23 13:43:36 2017
From: johnl at iecc.com (John Levine)
Date: 23 Sep 2017 20:43:36 -0000
Subject: [ih] Call for papers for the Internet histories journal :
	Arpanet (1969-2019)
In-Reply-To: <nyjfjh2rbsymdsou0ri05p75.1506145796907@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <20170923204336.8298.qmail@ary.lan>

In article <nyjfjh2rbsymdsou0ri05p75.1506145796907 at email.android.com> you write:
>The academic computing historians will read it.  Their writings will be the archive of history when the participants are gone. 

Maybe, maybe not.  I don't recognize any of the editors' names, and the
articles do not fill me with insight or delight:

An article in the first issue:

 Towards a nonlinear, material history of digital swarms

 Abstract

 In contemporary internetworked societies, digital media and networks
 have increasingly become a ?battlefield? where, following the
 emergence of novel power relations, new forms of resistance have come
 to the fore. Amongst these resistances, there are the so-called
 ?digital swarms?. This is a communicational disruption also
 technically known in computing as ?Distributed Denial-of-Service?
 (DDoS): a form of political dissent that, in the last years, has hit
 the headlines, thanks to the digital media actions of Anonymous. This
 article focuses on these forms of mediation, approaching digital
 swarms via a historical analysis that stresses nonlinearity and
 materiality. I argue that digital swarming actions cannot be read as
 an issue of obtaining attention through media visibility, and that the
 disruptions these lead to cannot be accounted as mere metaphors of
 street political action, finding conversely their cultural history in
 other forms of media disruptiveness. This historical excavation
 points, then, towards a different genealogy for digital swarms,
 acknowledging the key material dimensions at stake via the
 infrastructural character of disruptive mediations as well as via
 non-anthropomorphic patterns of enunciation.

I can't tell whether this is a history of DDoS or what.  I do know
that "digital swarms" is not a term which means anything.  If I were
running a library, $1,913 for their online something package would not
be high on my budget priority list.

The IEEE publishes Annals, a perfectly good quarterly computing
history journal that is reasonably priced and is widely available.
It's had lots of Arpanet and Internet articles.  If you want to write
about Arpanet history, write for them.

R's,
John


From julf at julf.com  Sat Sep 23 13:53:10 2017
From: julf at julf.com (Johan Helsingius)
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:53:10 +0200
Subject: [ih] Call for papers for the Internet histories journal :
 Arpanet (1969-2019)
In-Reply-To: <nyjfjh2rbsymdsou0ri05p75.1506145796907@email.android.com>
References: <nyjfjh2rbsymdsou0ri05p75.1506145796907@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <444680de-9ae3-3603-f2f8-a9aea5992e83@julf.com>

> The academic computing historians will read it.? Their writings will be
> the archive of history when the participants are gone.

I would both read and refer to it - if it was open access.

	Julf



From julf at julf.com  Sun Sep 24 11:35:27 2017
From: julf at julf.com (Johan Helsingius)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 20:35:27 +0200
Subject: [ih] Call for papers for the Internet histories journal :
 Arpanet (1969-2019)
In-Reply-To: <20170923204336.8298.qmail@ary.lan>
References: <20170923204336.8298.qmail@ary.lan>
Message-ID: <3d018936-a1bc-e38f-4941-fc0ff884638a@julf.com>

On 23-09-17 22:43, John Levine wrote:

> I can't tell whether this is a history of DDoS or what. 

To me it reads like a test of Mark V Shaney.

	Julf