From landreu at gmail.com  Tue Aug  9 17:48:49 2011
From: landreu at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andreu_Ve=E0_i_Bar=F3?=)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 02:48:49 +0200
Subject: [ih] Searching a Letter by Mike Padlipsky
Message-ID: <001401cc56f7$456aa6b0$d03ff410$@gmail.com>

Dear All,

 

In one of my personal interviews to Jake Feinler, she said (excerpt from my
transcription):

 

?Once in the 70s a newcomer network manager sent a message to all sites on
the network telling them to send him hardcopy listings of all their
software. This created an uproar on the net because it would have been very
time consuming and the results would have been useless. Mike Padlipsky, who
is an old timer and a beautiful writer, composed a perfectly "straight"
letter saying how many reams of paper it would take to list all the software
at MIT Multics, the volume of the paper, the fact that a truck would be
needed to transport the listings, where would they like it delivered, and to
whom should they charge the expenses incurred. I think that ended the
request for print-outs of software. Maybe Mike still has a copy of that
letter. It was a gem. ?  

 

 

 

I?ve been trying for long time to find it, without any fortune. I was
wondering if anybody here can have access to it or give me a clue on where
to find it. 

I know he would be happy to share it with me
but I?m too late as I came to
know few weeks ago that sadly he passed away.

 

          &reu

 

 



   My last picture taken from him 

   (Halloween party with Paul Mockapetris et al. @ LA)

   2004-10-30

 

 

 

Dr. Andreu Ve?

Internet Society (ISOC-ES)

President of the Board

 

WiWiW.org (Who is Who in the Internet)

Founder & Director

andreu at vea.cat

 

 

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From matthias at baerwolff.de  Wed Aug 10 01:24:03 2011
From: matthias at baerwolff.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Matthias_B=E4rwolff?=)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:24:03 +0200
Subject: [ih] Searching a Letter by Mike Padlipsky
In-Reply-To: <001401cc56f7$456aa6b0$d03ff410$@gmail.com>
References: <001401cc56f7$456aa6b0$d03ff410$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABy8LgEC=obp8GSWQCMGEYS6SKko5mKCb5DedmNw2YzpqxiM3w@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc531.txt

You've "been trying for long time to find it"? [couldn't resist that quote,
sorry]

Best of luck
Matthias

2011/8/10 Andreu Ve? i Bar? <landreu at gmail.com>

> Dear All,****
>
> ** **
>
> In one of my personal interviews to Jake Feinler, she said (excerpt from my
> transcription):****
>
> ** **
>
> ?Once in the 70s a newcomer network manager sent a message to all sites on
> the network telling them to send him hardcopy listings of all their
> software. This created an uproar on the net because it would have been very
> time consuming and the results would have been useless. Mike Padlipsky, who
> is an old timer and a beautiful writer, composed a perfectly "straight"
> letter saying how many reams of paper it would take to list all the software
> at MIT Multics, the volume of the paper, the fact that a truck would be
> needed to transport the listings, where would they like it delivered, and to
> whom should they charge the expenses incurred. I think that ended the
> request for print-outs of software. Maybe Mike still has a copy of that
> letter. It was a gem. ?  ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> I?ve been trying for long time to find it, without any fortune. I was
> wondering if anybody here can have access to it or give me a clue on where
> to find it. ****
>
> I know he would be happy to share it with me?but I?m too late as I came to
> know few weeks ago that sadly he passed away.****
>
> ** **
>
>           &reu****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ****
>
>    My last picture taken from him ****
>
>    (Halloween party with Paul Mockapetris et al. @ LA)****
>
>    2004-10-30****
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> Dr. Andreu Ve?****
>
> Internet Society (ISOC-ES)****
>
> President of the Board****
>
> ** **
>
> WiWiW.org (Who is Who in the Internet)****
>
> Founder & Director****
>
> andreu at vea.cat****
>
> * *
>
> ** **
>



-- 
b?rwolff.de <http://xn--brwolff-5wa.de>
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From cls at rkey.com  Thu Aug 18 08:29:46 2011
From: cls at rkey.com (Craig Simon)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:29:46 -0400
Subject: [ih] Twenty Years of the Web
Message-ID: <4E4D2FEA.4080905@rkey.com>

There was woefully little attention given this month to an 
Internet-related anniversary of great historic significance. Tim 
Berners-Lee announced the availability of Web-enabling code bases on 
Usenet's alt.hypertext group twenty years ago, August 6, 1991. He began 
participating in IETF meetings shortly after that. The Informational RFC 
1945 for HTTP/1.0 finally emerged in 1996.

In his memoir, "Weaving the Web," Berners-Lee hints at some tension 
between him and other IETF members over issues ranging from nomenclature 
(he wanted URLs to be Universal Resource Identifiers rather than Uniform 
Resource Locators ) to time-consuming disputes about issues he regarded 
as "philosophical rat holes." One of his working groups was apparently 
disbanded by the IESG due to slow progress.

I wonder if any of the folks on this list would be willing to reflect on 
Berners-Lee's interactions with the Internet standards coummunity. I'm 
currently working on a piece about the evolution of hypermedia, and it 
would help to know more about this chapter in its history.

thanks,

Craig Simon