From rms46 at vlsm.org Sun Mar 3 21:26:24 2002 From: rms46 at vlsm.org (Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 12:26:24 +0700 Subject: [ih] Kudos for Mr. Mailman References: <200203011300.g21D0Y020522@boreas.isi.edu> Message-ID: <3C830580.E58DBBCF@vlsm.org> mailman-owner at postel.org wrote: > This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your postel.org > mailing list memberships. It includes your subscription info and how > to use it to change it or unsubscribe from a list. > [...] Mr. "Mailman-Owner" is the most active member of this list :^). regards, -- Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim-GNU/Linux/usr/#89215 - http://rms46.vlsm.org -- No animal nor undergrad was harmed in this research :^) --------- From ehall at ehsco.com Mon Mar 18 10:54:12 2002 From: ehall at ehsco.com (Eric A. Hall) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:54:12 -0600 Subject: [ih] creation date for IANA? Message-ID: <3C9637D4.5D4F9F67@ehsco.com> Hi, Does anybody have evidence or I-was-there knowledge of the month and year that the office of IANA was formally established? I've tried the usual timelines, org biographies, Whois (iana.org changed registrars last year, doh), and cannot find an authoritative date. Thanks -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/ From rms46 at vlsm.org Mon Mar 18 18:16:25 2002 From: rms46 at vlsm.org (Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:16:25 +0700 Subject: [ih] creation date for IANA? References: <3C9637D4.5D4F9F67@ehsco.com> Message-ID: <3C969F79.85E47DE1@vlsm.org> "Eric A. Hall" wrote: > Does anybody have evidence or I-was-there knowledge I was not there :-) > of the month and year > that the office of IANA was formally established? I've tried the usual > timelines, org biographies, Whois (iana.org changed registrars last year, > doh), and cannot find an authoritative date. By coincident, I have just discussed in the class (http://vlsm.org/komas/) about the taboo things of the IETF: - the accountability (=$$$) of the Internet Standard Process. - the reason of why there are not may fellows from our region in the IETF (RFC2727 as a domination preservation tool). I am just wondering where to get Federal documents about contracts to USC and CNRI. But these URLs may help... http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc204.txt 5 August 71 Sockets in use http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc349.txt 30 May 72 Proposed Standard Socket Numbers http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc503.txt 13 April 1973 Socket Number List http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc604.txt 26 December 1973 Assigned Link Numbers http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc717.txt 1 July 1976 Assigned Network Numbers [... more updates ...] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2468.txt I REMEMBER IANA http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2441.txt Working with Jon -- Tribute delivered at UCLA, October 30, 1998 -- Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim-GNU/Linux/usr/#89215 - http://rms46.vlsm.org -- No animal nor undergrad was harmed in this research :^) --------- From ehall at ehsco.com Tue Mar 19 13:28:41 2002 From: ehall at ehsco.com (Eric A. Hall) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:28:41 -0600 Subject: [ih] creation date for IANA? References: <3C9637D4.5D4F9F67@ehsco.com> Message-ID: <3C97AD89.BD79E007@ehsco.com> "Eric A. Hall" wrote: > Does anybody have evidence or I-was-there knowledge of the month and > year that the office of IANA was formally established? I resorted to grep. :/ The first mention of the IANA acronym is RFC 1174: | Network Working Group V. Cerf | Request for Comments: 1174 CNRI | August 1990 | | IAB Recommended Policy on Distributing Internet Identifier Assignment | and | IAB Recommended Policy Change to Internet "Connected" Status | | | Status of this Memo | | This informational RFC represents the official view of the Internet | Activities Board (IAB), and describes the recommended policies and | procedures on distributing Internet identifier assignments and | dropping the connected status requirement. Unless otherwise informed, I will assume that since the IANA acronym does not appear in any of the earlier RFCs -- including any of the assigned numbers documents -- that the office was established as the formal representation of the ISI function in 1990. -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/ From rms46 at vlsm.org Tue Mar 19 18:04:43 2002 From: rms46 at vlsm.org (Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:04:43 +0700 Subject: [ih] Re: [creation date for IANA? References: <3C9637D4.5D4F9F67@ehsco.com> <3C97AD89.BD79E007@ehsco.com> Message-ID: <3C97EE3B.95FE5142@vlsm.org> "Eric A. Hall" wrote: > Unless otherwise informed, I will assume that since the IANA acronym does > not appear in any of the earlier RFCs -- including any of the assigned > numbers documents -- that the office was established as the formal > representation of the ISI function in 1990. RFC-349 (30 May 72): "I propose that there be a czar (me ?) who hands out official socket numbers for use by standard protocols. This czar should also keep track of and publish a list of those socket numbers where host specific services" Therefore, it has to be after 30 May 1972. RFC-2441: "I find it funny to read in the papers that Jon was the director of IANA. Jon was IANA. Much more important, Jon was the corporate memory of the Internet, and also the corporate style and the technical taste of the Internet." RFC-2468: "When we needed to keep track of all the hosts and protocol identifiers, Jon volunteered to be the Numbers Czar and later the IANA once the Internet was in place." I guess that there was never a "formal representation of the ISI function". But perhaps, it was stated in a federal contract by the late 1980s or early 1990s. regards, -- Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim-GNU/Linux/usr/#89215 - http://rms46.vlsm.org -- No animal nor undergrad was harmed in this research :^) --------- From craig at aland.bbn.com Wed Mar 20 02:55:59 2002 From: craig at aland.bbn.com (Craig Partridge) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 05:55:59 -0500 Subject: [ih] Re: [creation date for IANA? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:04:43 +0700." <3C97EE3B.95FE5142@vlsm.org> Message-ID: <200203201055.g2KAtx761263@aland.bbn.com> In message <3C97EE3B.95FE5142 at vlsm.org>, "Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim" writes: >I guess that there was never a "formal representation of the ISI >function". But perhaps, it was stated in a federal contract >by the late 1980s or early 1990s. In the early 1990s (I believe) when NSF put out the information services job for the second time (BBN had run it first time around and had not been asked to take on IANA and SRI NIC functions), ISI sent out a note saying they'd team with all proposing parties to do what we now call the IANA functions. So I'm sure there's some NSF contract that lists these functions. Craig