[Chapter-delegates] Final Call for Input on the Chapter Charter Agreement (Deadline: 15 September)
Flávio Rech Wagner
flavio at inf.ufrgs.br
Thu Oct 1 10:18:01 PDT 2026
Hi Carlos
The link and password are working for me. Could you please check again?
If you still have problems, please contact me directly.
Best,
Flávio
> I was trying to access this
>
> Reference: Q3 Full ChAC Call Recording:
> https://isoc.zoom.us/rec/share/-6XJLwXG9it9gUe22AJyJg85kf_4LurDocT_AQ0jDXmlR4yRGtWvRn_d8p457U9K.SUUs5mPPssT488Pc
> (Passcode: ?=3YF98F)
>
> It seems I making some mistake in the passcode.. it says is wrong...
>
> Is there a list of call recording to navigate? If so can you please
> share here?
>
> I'm also interested in the Q2 call and others related to the ChAC
> Charter (not only the Chapter Charter)
>
> Thank you for your help
>
> Carlos Vera
>
> El mié, 23 sept 2026 a las 13:00, Flávio Rech Wagner
> (<flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>) escribió:
>
> Hi Carlos
>
> Regarding the rationale for updating the Chapter Charter
> Agreement, please refer to the agenda
> <https://isoc.box.com/s/j3u43egd9wx7c0wd9cvilt85zltvo65a> and the
> recording (see link and password below) of yesterday’s Full ChAC Call.
>
> At the bottom ("Notes" section) of the agenda there is a note as a
> reminder of the rationale and context behind the revision of the
> Chapter Charter Agreement, referring to the ChAC Action Plan for
> 2026 (shared with the ChAC during the Q1 Full ChAC Call) and to
> the Chapter DNA document (presented during the Q2 Full ChAC Call),
> with appropriate links.
>
> The current consultation on a new version of the Chapter Charter
> Agreement is thus a subsequent step in this process and follows
> those two previous steps, that were presented and discussed with
> all ChAC representatives during the Q1 and Q2 Full ChAC Calls.
>
> Best,
>
> Flávio
>
> ------
>
> Reference: Q3 Full ChAC Call Recording:
> https://isoc.zoom.us/rec/share/-6XJLwXG9it9gUe22AJyJg85kf_4LurDocT_AQ0jDXmlR4yRGtWvRn_d8p457U9K.SUUs5mPPssT488Pc
> (Passcode: ?=3YF98F)
>
>
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I would like to reiterate that I do not see a clear rationale for
>> changing the agreement with the Chapters. The fact that it has
>> only been in force for eight years is not, in itself, a problem.
>> On the contrary, it is generally desirable to have agreements
>> that are durable and remain valid over time.
>>
>> At this point, we have not been presented with clear arguments
>> explaining why the agreement should be changed or what
>> specifically needs to be changed.
>>
>> The process seems to have moved directly to requesting input on
>> possible changes without first establishing a clear understanding
>> of their purpose and rationale. This risks becoming a process
>> without a clearly stated justification or any evident benefits.
>>
>> Is there any analysis supporting this proposal? Are there
>> specific areas of the current agreement that have created
>> conflicts, difficulties, or identified needs that should be
>> considered?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carlos Vera
>> ISOC Ecuador
>>
>>
>>
>> El mar, 22 sept 2026 a las 23:55, Hank Nussbacher via
>> Chapter-delegates (<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>) escribió:
>>
>> On 17/09/2026 18:28, Flávio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> After the Q3 ChaC meeting yesterday, I think it worthwhile
>> that those who submitted changes post them here since the
>> CHaC is not allowed to. There is no limitation on someone
>> who submitted a change to voluntarily post what they submitted.
>>
>> To remind everyone of the various documents:
>>
>> https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Chapter-Charter-Agreement.pdf
>> [8 year old current charter agreement]
>> https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2286649326490?s=bphineozvfi6cldkx2irs166fji8qlyf
>> https://isoc.app.box.com/notes/2184030150813?s=sm6wg879ouz0wcb3uuejbomrqypp1568
>> https://isoc.app.box.com/s/bmom76ebuq3m8s94gf1m4lb1vti02i32
>> [proposed 1st draft new charter agreement]
>>
>> So in the context of creating a broader discussion I will
>> start with the 3 changes I submitted specifically not
>> addressed by the proposed changes but rather on analysis of
>> the current proposed charter agreement as listed above:
>>
>> a. Paragraph 1 states "Establish a not-for-profit (or
>> similar) entity within the Territory" - yet the word
>> territory remains undefined. Can territories overlap? Can a
>> single building in a city with 40 apartments be called a
>> territory?
>> b. In section 3 it states "Developing, maintaining, and
>> adhering to articles of association, bylaws, or equivalent
>> governing documents," but there is no requirement to make
>> these documents public. ISOC encourages transparency yet
>> there is no indication in the revised charter to require
>> transparency via making all of those documents publicly
>> available.
>> c. In section B.1.b the term "Good Standing" remains undefined
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing what others submitted and to have
>> an open discussion on all the proposed amendments.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hank
>>
>>> Dear Hank
>>>
>>> Thank you for your valuable feedback on the consultation.
>>>
>>> As Christine already expressed in a previous message to this
>>> list, we will now, based on the feedback received so far,
>>> work on the next iteration of the draft Chapter Charter
>>> Agreement. Once this is ready, the proposed text will then
>>> go through another, final, round of community consultation.
>>> This will allow all chapters that would like to provide
>>> additional input to do so.
>>>
>>> As the feedback form for the current consultation did not
>>> ask contributors to consent to their individual responses
>>> being shared publicly, there is no plan to publish
>>> individual submissions in this round. We regret that there
>>> was no such provision. In the next consultation round, there
>>> will be a clear option for chapters to indicate whether
>>> their feedback may be shared publicly or attributed.
>>>
>>> Although individual submissions in this first round will not
>>> be shared publicly, a summary of the main themes raised
>>> through the consultation will be shared in turn, along with
>>> an explanation on how those themes were considered in the
>>> next iteration of the Chapter Charter Agreement revision.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Flávio
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I submitted 3 submissions back on Aug 5 as I assume many
>>>> other ChAC reps have done.
>>>> What I have not seen is an archive of submissions and the
>>>> status of comments/changes requested.
>>>> Can someone point me to where that might be?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hank Nussbacher
>>>> ISOC-IL
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> --
> Prof. Flávio Rech Wagner
> Instituto de Informática - Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
> Presidente da ISOC Brasil
> ISOC Chapters Advisory Council - Steering Committee Chair
>
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Prof. Flávio Rech Wagner
Instituto de Informática - Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul
Presidente da ISOC Brasil
ISOC Chapters Advisory Council - Steering Committee Chair
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