[Chapter-delegates] {Disarmed} AMS Celebration Day 2025

Mon Mar 17 11:10:36 PDT 2025

Hi Klaus and colleagues,

Well  I understand the frustrations,
The New AMS, hasn't made it easier on many ends to manage chapter
membership and related work using the platform.

I am not sure if the ISOC team has continued to improve the portal. There
are still many technical and interface issues with the new platform.

If there would be a way to revert, it would be great or make our current
have similar interfaces or functionalities.

Regards
Levy Syanseke

Media Studies Tutor | Ramah Designs <https://web.facebook.com/ramahdesigns/> -
Founder

Internet Society Zambia Chapter <https://isoczambia.org> - Founding
president

Youth IGF Movement <https://youthigf.com/>- Community Coordinator
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On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 5:11 PM Jeffry Fernandez via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Hahaha 😂
>
> Happy day to you too
> -
> Jeffry S. Fernandez
>
> On 15 Mar 2025, at 6:01 a.m., Klaus Birkenbihl via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Dear Chapter Leaders,
>
> once upon a time ... In order to support its work for an open, accessible,
> and strong Internet; in order to protect it against monopolistic attacks
> from big companies; in order to foster innovation, creativity and
> unexpected use, ISOC has set-up an Advanced Membership administration
> System (AMS). It was implemented carefully following open standards (as
> from IETF, W3C ...), providing excellent usability, privacy, and
> accessibility. A carefully chosen Internet-canny and innovative medium size
> company was mandated with the implementation. An internal group of ISOC
> experts carefully supervised this work ... and they lived happily ever
> after.
>
> OK, just kidding. Seriously, back in 2020 ISOC had the audacious idea to
> let members participate in the requirements analysis for AMS. This was
> called Membernova Initiative. (To be fair: ISOC took care that this did not
> effect much.) Membernova was the name of the AMS used back then. In order
> to recognize the progress since then a Membernova anniversary day was
> launched to be on March 15th. But Membernova is history now and so the
> anniversary had to be renamed in 2024. The new name is "AMS celebration
> day".
>
> There are too many open issues with AMS. E.g. unfortunately I'm still not
> allowed to provide AMS with a list of registered Chapter Members. So AMS
> has to live with fake data. And I have to admit that my last year's
> promise, to show you how to register Chapter Members with AMS, cannot be
> resolved therefor.
>
> So I decided to make E-Mail communication within ISOC this year's subject.
> Remember: with AMS we "make simple things complex again" and mess it all up.
>
> ISOC obviously uses different styles of group communication. There is e.g.
> this Chapter-delegates mailing list. Members receive messages to the
> mailing list and these are synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter
> Portal. Simple filters allow to archive and search messages with any modern
> mail client. Good so.
>
> Not so other groups like Internet Policy, Community Portal Updates and
> more. Mails go to my private Mail address sent by an anonymous
> mailer at isoc.de with an awesome "Reply to" something like
>
>
> 3uykghtxob3jjt10.6tazq4euh6jfcvrj at l1ef2ykhvgrduwm3.olow1.dn-71ceimaa.usa576.chatter.salesforce.com
> .
>
> And to make it even more transparent many mails end with:
>
> <img src=*MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from
> "cdn.mailscanner.info" claiming to be*
> "http://cdn.mailscanner.info/1x1spacer.gif"
> <http://cdn.mailscanner.info/1x1spacer.gif> width="2" height="1" alt="Web
> Bug from https://community.internetsociety.org/servlet/eM=M... />
>
> You know what? Mails containing a "1x1spacer.gif" are considered trackers
> and classified as spam by my filters. (And my DNS blocks
> cdn.mailscanner.info.)
>
> Mails often end with: "We respect your right to privacy - view our
> policy". which hold a link to e.g.
>
>
> https://click.mail.isoc.org/?qs=3eea61e07305feba25a3e0b896d16568f693a88f5fe8b4728dd2782620aca1c488d971cd4b0dd92fdb2846741df7ff219139d284110d4e6a
>
>
> or
>
>
> https://click.mail.isoc.org/?qs=3eea61e07305feba2e236580bb16e112b5220dbefb1c6641982304fd26f3b8d7f25dbd0d796bb0695e1c7bb67cfc285621382b95c3577db2
> .
>
> Obviously there are many links to ISOC's privacy policy. "Honi soit qui
> mal y pense" as our french colleagues would comment.
>
> Beside of this there is much more progress. E.g. I used to receive E-Mails
> containing contact data for individuals who expressed interest in a
> Chapters membership. I used to process these mails by a script to welcome
> people and inform about our fee policy. Most people lost their interest in
> a membership when they read "fee" and where dropped from our database
> automatically. With the new AMS these mails were discontinued. When I
> complained mails were sent again. Good so? The only message in the new
> mails is "somebody has expressed interest". Privacy by ISOC.
>
> I also hate to be subscribed to lists or groups automatically. I'd prefer
> opt-in - just to keep track - but being registered by default. But that's
> another story.
>
> Long live salesforce.com! Don't worry and have a happy AMS celebration
> day,
>
> Klaus
>
> --
> Klaus Birkenbihl
> Internet Society German Chapter (ISOC.DE) e.V.
> c/o ict-Media GmbHhttps://www.isoc.de
>
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> _______________________________________________
> As a Chapter Leader, you are automatically added to the Internet Society’s
> Chapter Leaders Community Group and the Chapter Delegates e-list, which is
> regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):
> https://community.internetsociety.org.
> The Internet Society has a legitimate interest to communicate with its
> chapter leaders, you will therefore remain subscribed for the duration of
> your term and will be unsubscribed automatically when your term ends.
> Please note that the archive of this list is publicly accessible and may
> be viewed by anyone. By submitting information to this list and
> contributing to the communications, you acknowledge that the contents will
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> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct:
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