[Chapter-delegates] Profit and Loss

b1harlem nyc smartnet.nyc at gmail.com
Tue Sep 17 15:20:04 PDT 2024


I too wondered where is  the usual parsed  response  to Oliver's very
thoughtful and clear analysis?...Instead of the typical fancy intellectual
explanations?..Yet we are treated to  a missive stating  the answer is for
the chapters to continue along the path of asking the same people and
process (beyond the net) etc.etc who can not see the value proposition that
jolly's service brings towards us all....which we already knew  was
available so that solution is exactly where this started..how's that for
progress?

I wonder how many people are non volunteers of the society and foundation
?how much are the salaries? Who makes the most? Maybe there is someway we
can find what's needed to continue. Services  that benefits  the chapters,
instead of being told what is not feasible by some non volunteer anonymous
staff members...

Would also be interested in how there is 5 million dollars for something
and someone's yet we don't have 63000dollars for a service that benefits
all?  Who decides the budget?..Is the decision surrounding budget voted on
by the chapters?.

Doug Frazier


On Tue, Sep 17, 2024, 14:25 Frederic Taes via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Dear Ted,
>
>
>
> In recent discussion about Live stream service, you highlighted the
> necessity of a positive business case: even if we are a not-for-profit
> organization, we need to stay financially viable and not throw money
> through windows. It’s a fair point. I was really impressed by the figures
> and extended analysis performed by Olivier-Crépin Leblond: this should be
> used to challenge the internal staff decision. My proposal would be to give
> a yearly envelope for common services to chapters, and to let the ChAC to
> determine how this money should be used for those common services, like
> live streaming service and archiving, global license for video meetings,…
> That would be economically the best.
>
>
>
> Livestream discussion is about 64K, but what about millions we burn?
>
>
>
> From Internet Society strategic plan, MANRS is/was a key window to promote
> Internet Society and to convert yearly 5 MANRS members to become ISOC
> organizational members, bringing money to us.  This has been stopped now:
> Global Cyber Alliance took all the work and knowledge of ISOC, they
> completely removed ISOC visibility from www.manrs.org. While some
> organizations would have requested big amount of money for this transfer,
> it’s the opposite that happened : ISOC not received but gave 5,250,000 USD
> to them (
> https://www.isocfoundation.org/project/manrs-initiative-succession/).
> What’s the rationale of the business case?
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Frederic.
>
>
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