[Chapter-delegates] SIG / SG questions

Tue May 28 00:53:52 PDT 2024

Hello Vahan!

Thanks for chiming in. I’d love to catch-up to hear what you think could be improved to enable the current SIG leadership teams to more effectively work with their membership. We’ll be in touch with Kyle to set up a quick call to understand more.

Best,

Christine

On 28 May 2024, at 09:33, Vahan Hovsepyan <vahan.hovsepyan at gmail.com<mailto:vahan.hovsepyan at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi, Christine!

I was a member of the group you mentioned and also a Chair of ISOC IoT SIG, and, as you might remember, despite a huge administrative support that we were receiving from ISOC (especially Kyle Shulman), we couldn't meet the core challenges to make the work of SIGs productive, such as membership management.

I am afraid the situation is still the same, but I will be happy to be wrong.

To make these groups more sustainable and effective the Leadership of these groups should have a proper way to work with their membership base, know them and develop the programs and activities with their engagement.

Would be happy to contribute to this work, if requested.
Sincerely,

Vahan Hovsepyan,

Tel. (+374 94) 25 89 00
E-mail:
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On Mon, 27 May 2024 at 17:00, Christine Saegesser <saegesser at isoc.org<mailto:saegesser at isoc.org>> wrote:
Hi Joly, hi all,

Chapters are indeed legally independent organizations (registered as such in the country where they’re located) bringing together invididual members of the Internet Society within their geographical scope. Chapters are chartered by the Internet Society via the signature of the Chapter Charter Agreement<https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/start/application/chapter-charter/>

Special Interest Groups (SIGs) are groups of individual members of the Internet Society from all around the world who are interested in working together on a given Internet related topic. These topics are chosen by our members every two years. SIGs are groups of ISOC members working together without needing a legal registration. As pointed out by Joly, the current arrangement is that staff handles most of the administrative aspects related to running the SIGs (including their web presence<https://www.internetsociety.org/sigs/>) so that our volunteer community can focus on the SIGs’ content work.

Standing Groups (SG) are similiar to the SIGs, but are more permanent in time. Their focus is on accessibility, gender and yout.

The current SIG & SG setup is the outcome of the work of a SIG working group constituted by Internet Society members some years ago.

Chapters, SIGs and SGs can be joined via the Community Portal (AMS): community.internetsociety.org<http://community.internetsociety.org/>
Once logged in, click on “Chapters” and/or “SIGs” in the page menu at the top.

We’ll share the link to the current SIG and SG Guidelines here asap - looks like this document may have fallen between the cracks during the recent system transition.

With regards to the documentation of the first two year SIGs, is there any documentation in particular that you are looking for?

There is no need for SIGs to set up their own website since  landing pages are available to them here https://www.internetsociety.org/sigs/ Please reach out to sig-support at isoc.org<mailto:sig-support at isoc.org> to discuss any needs for updates on these pages.

We will also get back to you on the question about the listserv - are you looking for a way to reach all current SIG and SG leaders?

Best,

Christine

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On 27 May 2024, at 10:16, 32888 via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org<mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:

Especially research is needed  regarding the IOT  security in space.

Borka, ISOC SI

On Sun, 26 May 2024, Daniel Otieno Omondi via Chapter-delegates wrote:

IOT as a past leadership in IOT we need a great research on space IOT
solutions which can be done in progressive meetings.
Daniel Omondi
Dotto Computer Agency
P.o.box 16753-00100
Nairobi
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On Sunday, 26 May 2024 at 12:19:33 GMT+3, vinton cerf via Chapter-delegates
<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org<mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
Joly,
I don't have a lot of answers but I believe IPNSIG (Interplanetary chapter)
set up its own web site. The chapters have independent existence from ISOC,
by requirement. They can raise their own funds, have a bank account distinct
from ISOC, etc.
v
On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 3:01 AM Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates
<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org<mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
When the new SIG / Standing Group structure was set up at the start of
2022, there were a set of guidelines posted on MemberNova.
This document is no longer available, but IIRC, defined a principle
that ISOC staff would handle 'administration' roles, to leave
volunteers unencumbered by such mundanity as documentation, web
presence, finances, so that they could dedicate themselves to actual
projects. I found this quote:

     Processes and protocols for archiving and accessing
     publicly available resources such as web content,
     listservs and social media accounts will be developed as
     part of the roll out plan for the new SIG structure. The
     emphasis will be to ensure public assets and work done by
     SIGs is available and can inform future efforts while
     maintaining connections and community that has been
     developed
So, no websites for Groups outside of ISOC, to ensure continuity as
teams change every two years.
Eventually landing pages for the SIGS/SGs were set up
at  https://www.internetsociety.org/sigs/ however, in terms of
documentation these are limited to a few focus areas and current Group
leaderships, and there was a wait for Fonteva.
Most groups responded by setting up chat groups on Telegram, Whatsapp,
or Signal, and maybe Google docs, maybe some social media, and now,
Chatter groups are available via Fonteva, working for some.
Documentation/Website? The ISOC-NY A11ySIG plugged the gap by
documenting the Accessibility Standing Group on their wiki, which the
new leadership have ported over to a standalone site
https://isocasg.org<https://isocasg.org/>, now linked from the ISOC landing page.
So questions:
Where are the current guidelines?
What follow up is being done on documentation of the first two year
projects?
Can SIGs now set up their own websites?
Is sigleaders at isoc.org<mailto:sigleaders at isoc.org> listserv still a thing? And, if not, is Chapter
Dels an appropriate venue to discuss SIG matters?
Looking forward to responses
Joly
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