[Chapter-delegates] Chapter Formation in Iraq

Tue Mar 19 13:30:13 PDT 2024

Hi everyone,

Giving an opinion here for similar debates in the future: even if this
wasn't a legal constraint, I don't think it is up to us to decide on the
name a chapter will adopt. They can have an official/company name and a
trade name (the one they are known for), and, if there is no requirement
from ISOC as an organization about this, I do not believe it would be a
good practice to have other chapters deciding about the adequacy or not of
the name, if it is not something widely considered as immoral or illegal.

Cordially,

*Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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Em ter., 19 de mar. de 2024 às 13:28, Ricky Mahabir via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu:

> Greetings from Suriname,
>
> Thank you for the clarification Hana. Given the constraints the name is
> then proper as per legal requirement.
> I have no further objections and wish the team many successful projects.
>
> Kind regards,
>
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>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 11:08 AM Hana Sabbagh via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your comments.
>>
>>
>>
>> The NGO Directorate of the Iraqi government has terms and conditions for
>> naming a not-for-profit organization, these terms are:
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. The names of the proposed organization *should not* include the
>>    following terms: (Iraqi, national, global, international, union,
>>    professions, crafts, scientific, syndicate, seminary, society, council,
>>    forum, association, center, farmers, fishing, cooperative, central).
>>    2. The names of the proposed organization *must include* one of the
>>    following specializations: (agricultural, culture, democracy, economic
>>    development, education, environment, people with special needs, human
>>    rights, media, humanitarian aid, children and orphans, public health,
>>    public services, relief, youth, women’s affairs , art, sustainable
>>    development).
>>    3. The name of the organization *should be as* follows: Organization
>>    + a clear proper noun that matches the specializations + one of the
>>    specializations.
>>
>>
>>
>> The chapter forming group sent several names to the NGO directorate and
>> this was the one that was accepted. They are open to suggestions for names
>> that fall within the above-mentioned criteria.
>>
>>
>>
>> The chapter will be a separate legal entity and will be referred to as
>> Internet Society Iraq Chapter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Hana
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> on
>> behalf of Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates <
>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, 19 March 2024 at 3:38 PM
>> *To: *chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org <
>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] Chapter Formation in Iraq
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 01:57:12AM +0000, Christopher Hawker via
>> Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>
>> >  2.
>> > chapters are distinct and separate legal entities from ISOC
>>
>> Yes, this is true.
>>
>> > as stated by Andrew Sullivan in his email to the Chapter Delegates list
>> on 03/12/2024 at 03:16pm UTC "chapters do not have legal responsibilities
>> to the Internet Society corporate body". This would mean that the chapter
>> would have no legal responsibilities to ISOC.
>>
>> That way of stating things was perhaps infelicitous (or perhaps some
>> context has been cut).  Chapters _do_ have legal responsibilities to the
>> Internet Society corporate body, within the scope of the engagement
>> letter.  For instance, chapters promise as part of their engagement to do
>> certain things (like hold elections for officers); and if they don't do
>> them then the various chapter processes kick in (this includes, for
>> instance, ineligibility for certain kinds of funding or eventual
>> dechartering or so forth).
>>
>> The main point I was trying to make in that message is that chapters are
>> not legally a part of the Internet Society, but are independent legal
>> entities.  This is not how chapters work in every organization.  For
>> instance, in some cases, a "chapter" is really a branch office of the
>> corporation itself.
>>
>> On the matter of the name, I will observe that we do not have a
>> requirement that the entity that is recognized as the chapter must be named
>> "Internet Society $place chapter", and many chapter organizations have
>> names that are not of the usual "chapter" form.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> A
>>
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