[Chapter-delegates] Services, staff considerations, and so forth (was Re: ISOC LIVE - the reports of its death are exaggerated, but..)

[Eduardo Diaz]

Christian:

Thank you for your words. My intention is not to stop any discussion but to
ensure everyone knows the alternative channels available for communicating
with the Board. All formal advice from the ChAC-SC to the Board gets
published for the public record here: [Internet Society Chapters Advisory
Council](https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council).
At the end of this page, a button labeled *"Find all the recommendations
with responses from the Board"* is supposed to direct you to the
recommendations the ChAC-SC has produced so far. However, this button is
malfunctioning, leading nowhere upon clicking. Whether this oversight was
intentional remains to be determined, but rest assured, I will pursue this
matter diligently.

It's important to note that most of the recommendations published so far
were related to the period when ISOC contemplated selling the .org domain
to another entity and making ISOC a more bottom-up organization. These
events occurred during my tenure as the chair of the ChAC-SC. I understand
there have been no more formal recommendations after that, which prompts
inquiries for the subsequent ChAC-SC chairs who have succeeded me.

-ed

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:53 AM Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net>
wrote:

>
> Ed - let's not inhibit discussion. The cha ac is only advisory on ISOC
> board and is not a middle man between chapters and the board.
>
> Chapters have a duty to good governance to their own community. Their ISOC
> relationship is
> probably the most important relationship of a chapter overall. So there
> is a direct conversation to be had.
>
> It does make sense for the ChAC when advising the board to advise
> for transparency and disclosure in the round. No harm to do that. But
> discussion should be encouraged.
>
> C
>
>
> Eduardo Diaz via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> writes:
>
> > This is a matter that the Chapter Advisory Steering Committee (ChAC-SC)
> can address by recommending the
> > Board publish all detailed account information publicly. In fact, all
> matters discussed in this list that the Board
> > should attend to should be channeled through the ChAC-SC as formal
> recommendations to the Board.
> > Remember that all recommendations that go to the Board need to be
> approved by the ChAC membership so
> > that when they get there, they are considered to be the voice of all the
> chapters and not of a few.
> >
> > -ed
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:05 PM Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >  Dear colleagues,
> >
> >  On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:01:11AM +0000, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via
> Chapter-delegates wrote:
> >
> >  >We are not asking for analysis. Quite the contrary, we are asking for
> >  >more transparency on already existing report. We assume that they
> >  >exist because any firm would produce abbreviated accounts starting
> >  >from detailed accounts. As abbreviated figures are currently
> >  >published, we assume that detailed account exist. I would be very
> >  >concerned if details of every project budget in the Internet Society
> >  >did not exist. That would be alarming.
> >
> >  Yes, there are of course detailed accounts, and our accounts are
> audited annually.  Indeed, the reason the
> >  Form 990 takes so long to post is because we have to wait for the
> results of the audit.
> >
> >  But as I said, a substantial change to the information (and its form
> and timing) that we release requires, in my
> >  view, a change of board policy, whcih would need to be adopted by the
> Finance Committee and then the
> >  Board of Trustees.
> >
> >  Best regards,
> >
> >  A
> >
> >  --
> >  Andrew Sullivan, President & CEO, Internet Society
> >  e:sullivan at isoc.org m:+1 416 731 1261
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>
> --
> Christian de Larrinaga
>


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