[Chapter-delegates] Funds from-to Chapters? -was- ISOC LIVE

[drhipo at me.com]

Dear Wyn,

As Andrew said, we are all well aware of the chapters that have problems to get funds. It is well described in his reply. I understand there is substantial work by the staff to solve this problems along with chapter leaders. However, I strongly believe it is important that Chapters act proactively towards putting ideas and solutions in this and other maters either as individual organizations or through the ChAC. In that way, every part of ISOC can work towards a better society.

Best Regards,

Luis Martinez

Prof. Luis M Martínez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society
On 13 Mar 2024 21:55 -0600, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, wrote:
> +1 Sivas. There's also the erroneous assumption that all Chapters receive Admin Funding -- IIRC, about a third of Chapters have been unable to receive funding of any kind from ISOC Central since the new Chapters' Letter was enforced several years back. So these Chapters have to make do with what they can source locally, and/or work with and thru partner CSOs in order to continue work on initiatives that align with ISOC's mission.
> This is the main point -- ISOC's mission. While Vint's kind offer to step-in and chip-in to support Joly's work is much appreciated by all, the LiveStreaming and other value-added services that Joly includes is central to ISOC's mission and should properly be the responsibility of ISOC Central, not Chapters, and not individual donors.
> Others have detailed the work that Joly does and does very well indeed -- at $60K/year that's a bargain, practically minuscule when viewed against the overall budget and the other big ticket items that ISOC spends for. If ISOC were to replicate Joly's work it would likely take multiple staffers, cost far more, and likely be less responsive. These experienced individuals provide ISOC with excellent and cost-effective service.
> The calls by Charles and Greg are much appreciated, thank you!
> WYn
> PH
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> On 13 Mar 2024 10:02 AM, Sivasubramanian M via Chapter-delegates wrote:
> > Frederic. this wouldn't work. It is roundabout, not every chapter has such a system to thoughtfully provision for live stream and zoom services.  Your suggestion to shift the responsibility from isoc.org to Chapters and consolidate allocation from every chapter into a whole??
> >
> > Sivasubramanian M
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 2:59 AM Frédéric Taes via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> > > > Dear Andrew, Jeffry and everyone,
> > > > I’m reading this: “Joly is one of the most valuable support that all the Chapters have, I suggest you and your staff do an extra effort to keep him helping the organization, we don’t know the numbers and budget you manage, but we are sure you can do something to keep his valuable help to all of us. “
> > > > It’s a good suggestion, however it’s always easy to ask to someone else to make an extra effort and give money: I would suggest everyone asking to support Joly to also do an effort, as a global organization.
> > > > Each chapter has the chapter admin funding, and there’s the general admin support for video conference.
> > > > For my Chapter, I’ll propose to give an equivalent amount of money of a Zoom license for Joly’s services. https://www.isocfoundation.org/chapter-admin-funding-lists-of-costs/
> > > > The optimum would be if the staff could consolidate this for all chapters, to avoid duplication of bank transfer costs.
> > > > It could be a mixed model, as for each chapter giving x amount of money, Internet Society (Foundation) would add extra money.
> > > > This principle could be applied to other requests, as life interpretation (Eduardo ;-)), Internet Society Knowledge Base (myself ;-)), Regional Chapter Workshops…
> > > > That way, with Chapters having to give some money themselves too, we’ll see which services really interest many chapters, and which don’t.
> > > > Because Andrew is right: we cannot do everything. If others support this idea, may the Chapter Advisory Council work on a proposal?
> > > > Unity makes strength.
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Frederic Taes,
> > > > ISOC Belgium Chapter - President
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