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Invite your mail contacts to join your friends = list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! = --_b5116e6c-c193-4526-a218-c0053391ef17_-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: =20 Regards, =20 =20 Dra. M=F3nica Abalo Laforgia Presidenta ISOC-Ar Cap=EDtulo Argentina www.isoc.org.ar =20 =20 De: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de S.M.Raza Enviado el: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:52 PM Para: ISOC Chapter Support CC: Chapter Delegates Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in Bolivia =20 =20 ISOC Pakistan fully support this new chapter On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Sabrina Wilmot wrote: Dear Colleagues, The following application for a Chapter in Bolivia has been received. It = is being sent to this list for peer comment and review. Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially = been recognised by ISOC. If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing to establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome. The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is August = 31, 2010. Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list. Best regards, Sabrina Wilmot ISOC ------------------------------ *Chapter Application* A. Proposed name of the Chapter The name for the chapter should be ISOC Bolivia Chapter. B. Community of Interest the Chapter will to serve This Chapter will serve persons who live or work in Bolivia. C. Purpose and Scope of Chapter We intend to promote the development and the use of Internet in Bolivia, = by trying to influence every segment of our society (government, private = sector and civil society) through the awareness of seeking polices in this = matter. This, task should be better achieve if we have the backup of ISOC and = also if we can generate better relations with other international = organizations such as ICANN, IGF, LACNIC, LACTLD and eLAC2010, among others. At 2009 Bolivia has only a 4% of Internet penetration and according to = the Digital Opportunity Index (DOI), made by ITU in 2007; Bolivia occupies = the 31 position of 35 countries in North, Central and South America. This indicators show the internal and external digital gap of our country and demostrates the importance for generate significant actions in order to improve the use of Internet in Bolivia. As an ISOC Chapter we will try to generate better understanding of technical, legal and social aspects of Internet trough congresses, = courses, symposiums, and others types of training in these area, we also be = offering documentation and information concerning the Internet and we will try to facilitate any technical and legal advice necessary for the better development of the net. We also are interested in the development of relationships with ISOC member communities of other countries. D. Founding Members of the Chapter Rodrigo Saucedo Linares, Jorge Pati=F1o E. List of Supporters Organizational supporter. Agencia para el Desarrollo de la Sociedad de la Informaci=F3n en = Bolivia: www.adsib.gob.bo =20 Fundaci=F3n Redes para el Desarrollo Sostenible: www.fundacionredes.org =20 Individual supporters: Jorge Pati=F1o Eduardo Rojas Amparo Subieta Victor Bazbazat Diego Loayza Julio Quintanilla Diego Pardovalle Mauricio Ib=E1=F1ez Enrique del Rio Moira Handal Gonzalo del Villar Gustavo Bonifaz Alejandro Saucedo =C1lvaro Coloma Valeria Castellanos Viviane Vogels Rodrigo Arce Bernardo Pe=F1a Hidaya Handal Daniel Gottschalck Carmen Romero Roberto Baya Marcelo Llorente Andr=E9s Bedregal F. List of Requirements There is no specific law or regulations that a non-profit, civil organization that is seeking to promote the development and the use of Internet is needed to fur fill in order to be able to do so in Bolivia, = just have to follow the civil law to form a non-profit organization in our country. G. Additional Information We have the support of "National Agency for the Development of the Information Society in Bolivia" (ADSIB), this government agency works = under the mandate of the Vice-presidency of the Republic with the promotion of = ICT policies and implementation of projects in areas such as e-education, e-commerce and e-government and also manages the Country Code Top Level Domain ".bo" (ccTLD.bo). H. Your Contact Information Rodrigo Saucedo Linares La Paz - Bolivia More information: 1. How is this Chapter related to other Chapters? We will try to promote and facilitate the development of relationships = with ISOC member communities of other countries, particularly with those of = the region of Latin and Central America. 2. What will this Chapter be doing? In general our objectives of "ISOC Bolivia Chapter" shall be as follows: a) To promote the development and the use of Internet in Bolivia. b) To act as a local reference point for technical, social and educational matters concerning the Internet. c) To promote the open development and evolution of the Internet, = its services and contents. d) To locally promote the values and goals of the Internet Society (hereinafter ISOC). e) To organize congresses, courses, symposiums, and/or debates = seeking to inform about matters concerning the Internet. f) To facilitate and promote the development of the means necessary = for offering documentation and/or information concerning the Internet. g) To establish close communication and contact between ISOC = members residing in Bolivia. h) To offer any general, technical, and legal advice necessary for = the better development of the Internet community. i) To promote investigation concerning the Internet. j) To promote and facilitate the development of relationships with = ISOC member communities of other countries, particularly with those of the = region of Latin and Central America. 3. Are there any issues that we need to be aware of? There is no specific law or regulations that a non-profit, civil organization that is seeking to promote the development and the use of Internet is needed to fur fill in order to be able to do so in Bolivia. ----------------------------------------------------------------=20 _______________________________________________ Chapter-delegates mailing list Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates --=20 Best regards, S.M.Raza. +92(0)300-8202938 ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01CB3B24.CD660DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From ISOC-Ar we fully support this new = chapter.

Regards,

Dra. M=F3nica Abalo = Laforgia

Presidenta

ISOC-Ar Cap=EDtulo Argentina

www.isoc.org.ar = =A0=A0

De: = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de = S.M.Raza
Enviado el: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:52 PM
Para: ISOC Chapter Support
CC: Chapter Delegates
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form a Chapter in = Bolivia

ISOC Pakistan fully = support this new chapter

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Sabrina Wilmot = <wilmot at isoc.org> = wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

The following application for a Chapter in Bolivia has been received. It = is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.

Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially = been recognised by ISOC.

If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing to establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.

The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is August = 31, 2010.

Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.

Best regards,

Sabrina Wilmot
ISOC

------------------------------

*Chapter Application*

A. Proposed name of the Chapter

The name for the chapter should be ISOC Bolivia Chapter.

B. Community of Interest the Chapter will to serve

This Chapter will serve persons who live or work in Bolivia.

C. Purpose and Scope of Chapter

We intend to promote the development and the use of Internet in Bolivia, = by trying to influence every segment of our society (government, private = sector and civil society) through the awareness of seeking polices in this = matter. This, task should be better achieve if we have the backup of ISOC and = also if we can generate better relations with other international organizations = such as ICANN, IGF, LACNIC, LACTLD and eLAC2010, among others.

At 2009 Bolivia has only a 4% of Internet penetration and according to = the Digital Opportunity Index (DOI), made by ITU in 2007; Bolivia occupies = the 31 position of 35 countries in North, Central and South America. This = indicators show the internal and external digital gap of our country and = demostrates the importance for generate significant actions in order to improve the use = of Internet in Bolivia.

As an ISOC Chapter we will try to generate better understanding of = technical, legal and social aspects of Internet trough congresses, courses, = symposiums, and others types of training in these area, we also be offering = documentation and information concerning the Internet and we will try to facilitate = any technical and legal advice necessary for the better development of the = net. We also are interested in the development of relationships with ISOC member communities of other countries.

D. Founding Members of the Chapter

Rodrigo Saucedo Linares,
Jorge Pati=F1o

E. List of Supporters
Organizational supporter.
Agencia para el Desarrollo de la Sociedad de la Informaci=F3n en = Bolivia: www.adsib.gob.bo

Fundaci=F3n Redes para el Desarrollo Sostenible: www.fundacionredes.org

Individual supporters:
Jorge Pati=F1o
Eduardo Rojas
Amparo Subieta
Victor Bazbazat
Diego Loayza
Julio Quintanilla
Diego Pardovalle
Mauricio Ib=E1=F1ez
Enrique del Rio
Moira Handal
Gonzalo del Villar
Gustavo Bonifaz
Alejandro Saucedo
=C1lvaro Coloma
Valeria Castellanos
Viviane Vogels
Rodrigo Arce
Bernardo Pe=F1a
Hidaya Handal
Daniel Gottschalck
Carmen Romero
Roberto Baya
Marcelo Llorente
Andr=E9s Bedregal

F. List of Requirements

There is no specific law or regulations that a non-profit, civil = organization that is seeking to promote the development and the use of Internet is = needed to fur fill in order to be able to do so in Bolivia, just have to follow = the civil law to form a non-profit organization in our country.

G. Additional Information

We have the support of "National Agency for the Development of the Information Society in Bolivia" (ADSIB), this government agency = works under the mandate of the Vice-presidency of the Republic with the = promotion of ICT policies and implementation of projects in areas such as = e-education, e-commerce and e-government and also manages the Country Code Top Level = Domain ".bo" (ccTLD.bo).

H. Your Contact Information
Rodrigo Saucedo Linares
La Paz - Bolivia

More information:

1. How is this Chapter related to other Chapters?
We will try to promote and facilitate the development of relationships = with ISOC member communities of other countries, particularly with those of = the region of Latin and Central America.

2. What will this Chapter be doing?
In general our objectives of "ISOC Bolivia Chapter" shall be = as follows:
a) To promote the development and the use of = Internet in Bolivia.
b) To act as a local reference point for technical, = social and educational matters concerning the Internet.
c) To promote the open development and evolution of = the Internet, its services and contents.
d) To locally promote the values and goals of the = Internet Society (hereinafter ISOC).
e) To organize congresses, courses, symposiums, = and/or debates seeking to inform about matters concerning the Internet.
f) To facilitate and promote the development of the = means necessary for offering documentation and/or information concerning the Internet.
g) To establish close communication and contact = between ISOC members residing in Bolivia.
h) To offer any general, technical, and legal advice necessary for the better development of the Internet community.
i) To promote investigation concerning the = Internet.
j) To promote and facilitate the development of relationships with ISOC member communities of other countries, = particularly with those of the region of Latin and Central America.

3. Are there any issues that we need to be aware of?
There is no specific law or regulations that a non-profit, civil = organization that is seeking to promote the development and the use of Internet is = needed to fur fill in order to be able to do so in Bolivia.

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+92(0)300-8202938

From the Washington Post:

Clinton urges Egypt to= unblock Twitter, Facebook:=A0According to the=A0 Associated Press, Secretary of State Hil= lary Rodham Clinton urged the Egyptian government to lift its ban on social= media sites such as Facebook and Twitter as the country deals with the aft= ermath of riots that shook Cairo this week. Clinton said that the United St= ates supports Egyptians' rights to freedom of expression, association a= nd assembly.

The Egyptian government=A0denies=A0that it is blocking the= social media sites. There are mixed reports on Twitter about the status of= the micro-blogging site in Egypt. Some insist that the site is blocked, wh= ile others say the sites are up=A0but moving slowly.

From nanog:

Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts inEgypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirma= bility):

1= ) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs<= blockquote> 2) No= SMS

4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (= dialup?) ISPs

5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria

The working assumption here is= that the Egyptian government has made the

decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic<= /span>
communication as a reaction to the ongoing protes= ts in that country.

If anyone can provide more details as t= o what they're seeing, the extent,
plus times= and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there
are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable=
confirmation which I can pass onto the press and= those working to bring some

communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is so= me very
early work to provide emergency connectiv= ity. Info at:

http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q= =A0)

Thank you,

--
dobrie= n at cpj.org

Danny O'Brie= n, Committee to Protect Journalists

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:

http://www.allfacebook.= com/egypt-blocks-access-to-facebook-2011-01

Egypt=92s blockage = was confirmed by Jillian York, a project coordinator at Harvard=92s Berkman= Center for Internet and Society that oversees the Herdict service,=A0who s= ent an email to=A0Reuters.

Egypt=92s blockage of Facebook today follows a similar move against Twitter= yesterday, TechCrunch has=A0reported, as the microblogging site has also helped p= rotesters organize themselves.

Will the Egyptian government=92s efforts to block access to social media ul= timately strengthen protesters=92 resolve and possibly strengthen support f= or the demonstration outside of Egypt?

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WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
=A0http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
=A0 VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
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--20cf3054a4ff067f60049adcf2b3-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Clinton urges Egypt to unblock Twitter, Facebook: According to the Associat= ed Press , Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urged the Egyptian gov= ernment to lift its ban on social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter = as the country deals with the aftermath of riots that shook Cairo this week= . Clinton said that the United States supports Egyptians' rights to freedom= of expression, association and assembly.=20 The Egyptian government denies that it is blocking the social media sites. = There are mixed reports on Twitter about the status of the micro-blogging s= ite in Egypt. Some insist that the site is blocked, while others say the si= tes are up but moving slowly.=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in=20 Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability):= =20 1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs=20 2) No SMS=20 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs=20 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria=20 The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the=20 decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic=20 communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country.=20 If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent,= =20 plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there= =20 are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable=20 confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring som= e=20 communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very= =20 early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at:=20 http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )=20 Thank you,=20 --=20 dobrien at cpj.org=20 Danny O'Brien, Committee to Protect Journalists=20 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Joly MacFie < joly at punkcast.com > wrote:= =20 http://www.allfacebook.com/egypt-blocks-access-to-facebook-2011-01=20 Egypt=E2=80=99s blockage was confirmed by Jillian York, a project coordinat= or at Harvard=E2=80=99s Berkman Center for Internet and Society that overse= es the Herdict service, who sent an email to Reuters .=20 Egypt=E2=80=99s blockage of Facebook today follows a similar move against T= witter yesterday, TechCrunch has reported , as the microblogging site has a= lso helped protesters organize themselves.=20 Will the Egyptian government=E2=80=99s efforts to block access to social me= dia ultimately strengthen protesters=E2=80=99 resolve and possibly strength= en support for the demonstration outside of Egypt?=20 --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------=20 Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast=20 WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com=20 http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com=20 VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------=20 --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------=20 Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast=20 WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com=20 http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com=20 VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------=20 _______________________________________________=20 Chapter-delegates mailing list=20 Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org=20 https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates=20 ------=_Part_808_24854276.1296188207606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>http://ww= w.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml

Franck Martin
http://www.avonsys.com/<= /a>
http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys
twitter: FranckMartin Avonsys

Check your domain reputatio= n: htt= p://gurl.im/b69d4o

From: "Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com&g= t;
To: "ISOC Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc= .org>
Sent: Friday, 28 January, 2011 1:13:40 PM
Subject:= Re: [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter

<= div>From the Washington Post:

Clinton urges Egypt to unblock Twitter, Facebook: According to= the Associa= ted Press, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urged the Egyptian= government to lift its ban on social media sites such as Facebook and Twit= ter as the country deals with the aftermath of riots that shook Cairo this = week. Clinton said that the United States supports Egyptians' rights to fre= edom of expression, association and assembly.

The Egyptian government denies&nb= sp;that it is blocking the social media sites. There are mixed reports on T= witter about the status of the micro-blogging site in Egypt. Some insist th= at the site is blocked, while others say the sites are up but m= oving slowly.

From nanog:

Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts inEgypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmabili= ty):

1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs
2) No SMS
4) Intermittent connectivity with sma= ller (dialup?) ISPs

5) No mobile service in maj= or cities -- Cairo, Alexandria

The working assumption = here is that the Egyptian government has made the

decision to shut down all e= xternal, and perhaps internal electronic
communication as a reaction to the ongoing= protests in that country.

plus ti= mes and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there
are often many unconfirmed = rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable
confirmation which I can pass onto the pres= s and those working to bring some

communications back up (if = you have a ham radio license, there is some very
early work to provide emergency co= nnectivity. Info at:

http://pastebin.com/fHH= BqZ7Q )

--
dobrien at cpj.org

Danny O'Brien, Committee to Protect Journalists

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:

http://www.allface= book.com/egypt-blocks-access-to-facebook-2011-01

Egypt=E2=80=99s blockage was confirmed by Jillian York, a project c= oordinator at Harvard=E2=80=99s Berkman Center for Internet and Society tha= t oversees the Herdict service, who sent an email to Reuters.

Egypt=E2=80=99s blockage of Facebook today follows a similar move against T= witter yesterday, TechCrunch has reported= , as the microblogging site has also helped protesters organize themsel= ves.

= http://wwwhatsup.com
http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
-------------= --------------------------------------------------

--
-----------------------= ----------------------------------------
Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 = Skype:punkcast
WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
= VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
---------------------------------------------------------------

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Chapter-delegates ma= iling list
Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
https://elists.isoc.org/= mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates
------=_Part_808_24854276.1296188207606-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Clinton urges Egypt to unblock Twitter, Facebook: According to the Associated Press, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urged the Egyptian government to lift its ban on social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter as the country deals with the aftermath of riots that shook Cairo this week. Clinton said that the United States supports Egyptians' rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly. The Egyptian government denies that it is blocking the social media sites. There are mixed reports on Twitter about the status of the micro-blogging site in Egypt. Some insist that the site is blocked, while others say the sites are up but moving slowly. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability): 1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country. If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q ) Thank you, -- dobrien at cpj.org Danny O'Brien, Committee to Protect Journalists On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: http://www.allfacebook.com/egypt-blocks-access-to-facebook-2011-01 Egypt's blockage was confirmed by Jillian York, a project coordinator at Harvard's Berkman Center for Internet and Society that oversees the Herdict service, who sent an email to Reuters. Egypt's blockage of Facebook today follows a similar move against Twitter yesterday, TechCrunch has reported, as the microblogging site has also helped protesters organize themselves. Will the Egyptian government's efforts to block access to social media ultimately strengthen protesters' resolve and possibly strengthen support for the demonstration outside of Egypt? -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org --------------------------------------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org --------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Chapter-delegates mailing list Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CBBECD.E5016C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Should there be a statement ready = in case ISOC is asked why its chapter delegate in Egypt is the minister of = Communication and Information Technology of a government cutting down the = Internet?

The question might seem = hypothetical, but it could pop up.

Constance<= /font>

From: = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Franck Martin
Sent: vendredi 28 janvier = 2011 05:16
To: Joly MacFie
Cc: ISOC Chapter = Delegates
Subject: Re: = [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter

http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01= /egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml

Franck Martin
http://www.avonsys.com/
http://www.facebook.com/Avon= sys
twitter: FranckMartin Avonsys

Check your domain reputation: http://gurl.im/b69d4o

From: "Joly = MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com>
To: "ISOC Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Sent: Friday, 28 January, = 2011 1:13:40 PM
Subject: Re: = [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter

From the Washington = Post:

Clinton urges = Egypt to unblock Twitter, Facebook: According to the Associated Press, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urged the Egyptian government to lift its ban on social media sites such as Facebook and = Twitter as the country deals with the aftermath of riots that shook Cairo this week. Clinton said that the United States supports Egyptians' rights to freedom of expression, association and = assembly.

The Egyptian government denies that it is blocking the social media sites. There are mixed reports on = Twitter about the status of the micro-blogging site in Egypt. Some insist that = the site is blocked, while others say the sites are up but = moving slowly.

From = nanog:

Around 2236 UCT, we lost all = Internet connectivity with our contacts in

Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability):

=

1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) = ISPs

2) No SMS

4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) = ISPs

5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria=

=

The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made = the

decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal = electronic

communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that = country.

=

If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the = extent,

plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this = there

are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete = reliable

confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring = some

communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some = very

early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info = at:

http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )

=

Thank you,

--

dobrien at cpj.org

Danny O'Brien, Committee to = Protect Journalists

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, = Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> = wrote:

http://www.allfacebook.com/egypt-blocks-access-to-facebook-2011-01=

Egypt’s blockage was confirmed by Jillian York, a = project coordinator at Harvard’s Berkman Center for = Internet and Society that oversees the Herdict service, who sent an email = to Reuters.<= /font>

Egypt’s blockage of Facebook today follows a = similar move against Twitter yesterday, TechCrunch has reported, as the microblogging site has also helped protesters organize = themselves.

Will the Egyptian government’s efforts to = block access to social media ultimately strengthen protesters’ resolve = and possibly strengthen support for the demonstration outside of = Egypt?

--
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WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CBBECD.E5016C80-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Clinton urges Egypt to unblock Twitter, Facebook: According to the Associated Press, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urged the Egyptian government to lift its ban on social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter as the country deals with the aftermath of riots that shook Cairo this week. Clinton said that the United States supports Egyptians' rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly. The Egyptian government denies that it is blocking the social media sites. There are mixed reports on Twitter about the status of the micro-blogging site in Egypt. Some insist that the site is blocked, while others say the sites are up but moving slowly. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability): 1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country. If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q ) Thank you, -- dobrien at cpj.org Danny O'Brien, Committee to Protect Journalists On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: http://www.allfacebook.com/egypt-blocks-access-to-facebook-2011-01 Egypt's blockage was confirmed by Jillian York, a project coordinator at Harvard's Berkman Center for Internet and Society that oversees the Herdict service, who sent an email to Reuters. Egypt's blockage of Facebook today follows a similar move against Twitter yesterday, TechCrunch has reported, as the microblogging site has also helped protesters organize themselves. Will the Egyptian government's efforts to block access to social media ultimately strengthen protesters' resolve and possibly strengthen support for the demonstration outside of Egypt? -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org --------------------------------------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org --------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Chapter-delegates mailing list Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CBBED1.E7683680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please ignore my previous note. It = was intended for an internal list and sent to chapter delegates in error. =

Apologies for any = confusion.

Constance<= /font>

From: = Constance Bommelaer [mailto:bommelaer at isoc.org]
Sent: vendredi 28 janvier = 2011 09:30
To: 'chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org'; 'kummer.markus at gmail.com'; 'runnegar at isoc.org'; 'Sally Wentworth'
Cc: 'graham at isoc.org'
Subject: [Egyptian = chapter - issue?] FW: [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter

Should there be a statement ready = in case ISOC is asked why its chapter delegate in Egypt is the minister of Communication and Information Technology of a government cutting down = the Internet?

The question might seem = hypothetical, but it could pop up.

Constance<= /font>

From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Franck Martin
Sent: vendredi 28 janvier = 2011 05:16
To: Joly MacFie
Cc: ISOC Chapter = Delegates
Subject: Re: = [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter

http://www.renes= ys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml

Franck Martin
http://www.avonsys.com/
http://www.facebook.com/Avon= sys
twitter: FranckMartin Avonsys

Check your domain reputation: http://gurl.im/b69d4o

From the Washington = Post:

Clinton urges = Egypt to unblock Twitter, = Facebook: According to the Associated Press, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urged the Egyptian = government to lift its ban on social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter as = the country deals with the aftermath of riots that shook Cairo this week. Clinton said that the United States supports Egyptians' rights to freedom of expression, association and = assembly.

The Egyptian government denies that it is blocking the social media sites. There are mixed reports on = Twitter about the status of the micro-blogging site in Egypt. Some insist that = the site is blocked, while others say the sites are up but = moving slowly.

From = nanog:

Around 2236 UCT, we lost all = Internet connectivity with our contacts in

Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability):

=

1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) = ISPs

2) No SMS

4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) = ISPs

5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria=

=

The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made = the

decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal = electronic

communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that = country.

=

If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the = extent,

plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this = there

are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete = reliable

confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring = some

communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some = very

early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info = at:

http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )

=

Thank you,

--

dobrien at cpj.org

Danny O'Brien, Committee to = Protect Journalists

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:

http://www.allfacebook.com/egypt-blocks-access-to-facebook-2011-01=

Egypt’s blockage of Facebook today follows a = similar move against Twitter yesterday, TechCrunch has reported, as the microblogging site has also helped protesters organize = themselves.

Will the Egyptian government’s efforts to = block access to social media ultimately strengthen protesters’ resolve = and possibly strengthen support for the demonstration outside of Egypt?

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------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CBBED1.E7683680-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: =20 Clinton urges Egypt to unblock Twitter, Facebook: According to the Associated Press , Secretary of State = Hillary Rodham Clinton urged the Egyptian government to lift its ban on social = media sites such as Facebook and Twitter as the country deals with the = aftermath of riots that shook Cairo this week. Clinton said that the United States supports Egyptians' rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly. The Egyptian government denies that = it is blocking the social media sites. There are mixed reports on Twitter = about the status of the micro-blogging site in Egypt. Some insist that the = site is blocked, while others say the sites are up but moving slowly. =20 =20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: =20 Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of = confirmability): =20 1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria =20 The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country. =20 If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the = extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this = there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring = some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some = very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q ) =20 Thank you, =20 -- dobrien at cpj.org Danny O'Brien, Committee to Protect Journalists =20 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: =20 =20 http://www.allfacebook.com/egypt-blocks-access-to-facebook-2011-01 =20 =20 Egypt=92s blockage was confirmed by Jillian York, a project coordinator = at Harvard=92s Berkman Center for Internet and Society that oversees the = Herdict service, who sent an email to Reuters. =20 Egypt=92s blockage of Facebook today follows a similar move against = Twitter yesterday, TechCrunch has reported, as the microblogging = site has also helped protesters organize themselves. Will the Egyptian government=92s efforts to block access to social media ultimately strengthen protesters=92 resolve and possibly strengthen = support for the demonstration outside of Egypt? --=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org --------------------------------------------------------------- --=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org --------------------------------------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CBBED9.BB32F250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

E= nglish:

<= o:p>

D= ear Colleagues,
I= agree with the concerns of the list. In Bolivia, we are working towards = the institutionalization of agenda human rights in the information = Society, having had a formal alliance with the Ombudsman's Office; = viewing our agenda to articulate all telecommunications development = process must incorporate the human rights approach human, which would = facilitate the construction of social platforms to respond to situations = such as living Egypt.
C= onsidering also that this could become an opportunity for ISOC discuss = and propose alternatives in these cases.=

G= reetings from Foundation Networks
(= Sorry for the English translation)=

Espa=F1ol:

Estimados colegas,

Concuerdo con las preocupaciones de la lista. EN Bolivia, estamos = trabajando por la institucionalizaci=F3n de la agenda de los derechos = humanos en la Sociedad de la Informaic=F3n, habiendo logrado una alianza = formal con la Defensor=EDa del Pueblo; visualizando nuestra agenda de = articular todo proceso de desarrollo las telecomunicaciones debe = incorporar el enfoque de derechos humanos, lo que facilitar=EDa la = construcci=F3n de plataformas sociales de respuesta a situaciones como = la que vive Egipto.

Considerando adem=E1s, que esta situaci=F3n podr=EDa convertirse en = una oportunidad para que ISOC debata y proponga alternativas en estos = casos.

Saludos desde Fundaci=F3n REDES

(Disculpen la traducci=F3n del ingl=E9s)

J. Eduardo Rojas

Presidente Ejecutivo Fundaci=F3n REDES

Calle V=EDctor Sanjin=E9s N=BA 2895 Piso 1 Of. = 3

(Zona Sopocachi)

Tel/Fax: (591) 2-2911190

M=F3vil: 70192120

www.fundacionredes.org

La Paz, Bolivia

De: = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org = [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de = Joly MacFie
Enviado el: jueves, 27 de enero de 2011 = 20:14
Para: ISOC Chapter Delegates
Asunto: Re: = [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & = Twitter

From = the Washington Post:

Clinton urges Egypt to unblock Twitter, = Facebook: According to the Associated = Press, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urged the Egyptian = government to lift its ban on social media sites such as Facebook and = Twitter as the country deals with the aftermath of riots that shook = Cairo this week. Clinton said that the United States supports Egyptians' = rights to freedom of expression, association and = assembly.

The = Egyptian government = denies that it is blocking the social media sites. There are = mixed reports on Twitter about the status of the micro-blogging site in = Egypt. Some insist that the site is blocked, while others say the sites = are up but = moving slowly.

From = nanog:

Around = 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts = in

Egypt, and I'm hearing = reports of (in declining order of = confirmability):

1) Internet connectivity loss = on major (broadband) ISPs
2) No SMS
4) Intermittent connectivity = with smaller (dialup?) ISPs
5) No mobile service in major = cities -- Cairo, Alexandria

The working assumption here = is that the Egyptian government has made the
decision to shut down all = external, and perhaps internal electronic
communication as a reaction = to the ongoing protests in that country.

If anyone can provide more = details as to what they're seeing, the extent,
plus times and dates, it = would be very useful. In moments like this there
are often many unconfirmed = rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable
confirmation which I can pass = onto the press and those working to bring some
communications back up (if = you have a ham radio license, there is some very
early work to provide = emergency connectivity. Info at:
http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )

Thank you,

--=
dobrien at cpj.org
<= /blockquote>
Danny O'Brien, = Committee to Protect Journalists

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> = wrote:

http://www.allfacebook.com/egypt-blocks-access-to-faceb= ook-2011-01

= Egypt’s blockage was confirmed by Jillian York, a project = coordinator at Harvard’s Berkman Center for Internet and Society = that oversees the Herdict service, who sent an email to Reuters.

= Egypt’s blockage of Facebook today follows a similar move against = Twitter yesterday, TechCrunch has reported, as the = microblogging site has also helped protesters organize = themselves.
= Will the Egyptian government’s efforts to block access to social = media ultimately strengthen protesters’ resolve and possibly = strengthen support for the demonstration outside of = Egypt?

-- =
---------------------------------------------------------------
Jo= ly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
http://pinstand.com - = http://punkcast.com
VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY = - http://isoc-ny.org
-----------------------------= ----------------------------------

-- =
---------------------------------------------------------------
Jo= ly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
http://pinstand.com - = http://punkcast.com
VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY = - http://isoc-ny.org
-----------------------------= ----------------------------------

------=_NextPart_000_0010_01CBBED9.BB32F250-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: given to the statement. =20 =20 Dra. M=F3nica Abalo Laforgia Presidenta ISOC-Ar Cap=EDtulo Argentina www.isoc.org.ar =20 =20 De: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de Eduardo = Diaz Enviado el: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:48 PM Para: Anya Chambers CC: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Statement: The Internet Society on = Egypt=92s Internet shutdown =20 Very well put. -ed On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Anya Chambers = wrote: =20 Dear all =20 Please find below a statement from the Internet Society in response to = the recent events in Egypt: "We are following the current events in Egypt with concern as it appears that all incoming and outgoing Internet traffic has been disrupted. The Internet Society believes that the Internet is a global medium that fundamentally supports opportunity, empowerment, knowledge, growth, and freedom and that these values should never be taken away from = individuals. The Internet Society considers this recent action by the Egyptian = government to block Internet traffic to be an inappropriate response to a political crisis. It is a very serious decision for a government to block all = Internet access in its country, and a serious intrusion into its citizens=92 = basic rights to communicate. If the blockage continues, it will have a very detrimental impact on Egypt's economy and society. Ultimately, the = Egyptian people and nation are the ones that will suffer, while the rest of the = world will be worse off with the loss of Egyptian voices on the net. However we are most concerned about the safety and security of the = Egyptian people. Alongside the rest of the world, we share the hope for a = positive and lasting solution to the problems that have risen to the surface = there. In the longer term, we are sure that the world will learn a lesson from = this very unfortunate example, and come to understand that cutting off a = nation's access to the Internet only serves to fuel dissent and does not address = the underlying causes of dissatisfaction." It is also available on our wesbite here; http://isoc.org/wp/newsletter/?p=3D3091 =20 Regards =20 Anya =20 Anya Chambers Internet Society mobile: +1 224 321 0378 web: www.InternetSociety.org twitter: InternetSociety What will the Internet look like in 10 years?=20 Watch the trailer; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOInTXcZ4HZM For more information: www.internetsociety.org/scenarios _______________________________________________ Chapter-delegates mailing list Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates --=20 NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail message is intended = only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. = If you have received this communication by error, please notify us = immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. ------=_NextPart_000_0115_01CBBF1F.94694750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From Argentina Chapter of ISOC, we’d = like to join to the supporting given to the = statement.

Dr= a. Mónica Abalo Laforgia
Pr= esidenta
IS= OC-Ar Capítulo Argentina
www.isoc.org.ar =

De: = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org = [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de = Eduardo Diaz
Enviado el: Friday, January 28, 2011 5:48 = PM
Para: Anya Chambers
CC: = chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Asunto: Re: = [Chapter-delegates] Statement: The Internet Society on Egypt’s = Internet shutdown

Very well = put.

-ed
On Fri, Jan 28, = 2011 at 3:38 PM, Anya Chambers <chambers at isoc.org> = wrote:

Dear = all

Please find below a statement = from the Internet Society in response to the recent events in = Egypt:
"We are following the = current events in Egypt with concern as it appears that all incoming and = outgoing Internet traffic has been disrupted. The Internet Society = believes that the Internet is a global medium that fundamentally = supports opportunity, empowerment, knowledge, growth, and freedom and = that these values should never be taken away from = individuals.
The Internet Society = considers this recent action by the Egyptian government to block = Internet traffic to be an inappropriate response to a political crisis. = It is a very serious decision for a government to block all Internet = access in its country, and a serious intrusion into its citizens’ = basic rights to communicate. If the blockage continues, it will = have a very detrimental impact on Egypt's economy and society. = Ultimately, the Egyptian people and nation are the ones that will = suffer, while the rest of the world will be worse off with the loss of = Egyptian voices on the net.
However we are most concerned = about the safety and security of the Egyptian people. Alongside = the rest of the world, we share the hope for a positive and lasting = solution to the problems that have risen to the surface = there.
In the longer term, we are = sure that the world will learn a lesson from this very unfortunate = example, and come to understand that cutting off a nation's access to = the Internet only serves to fuel dissent and does not address the = underlying causes of dissatisfaction."
It is also available on our = wesbite here; http://isoc.org/wp/newsletter/?p=3D3091=

Regards
<= /div>

Anya

=
A= nya Chambers
Internet Society
<= p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><= br>m= obile: +1 224 321 0378
<= p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'>w= eb: www.InternetSociety.org=
t= witter: InternetSociety
<= br>What will the Internet look like in = 10 years?
Watch the trailer; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3DOInTXcZ4HZM<= br>
For more information: www.internetsociety.org/scenar= ios<= br>

=

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------=_NextPart_000_0115_01CBBF1F.94694750-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: of OAM protocols, some of the are standardized (mostly by ITU). However, many vendors choose to use their own extensions/workarounds/incompatibilities which leads to delivery of a vendor-specific network management software and devices as well as related integration services. As having network management protocols in place is a must of the carriers, this leads to deployment of those network management tools. I have worked on a pretty large telecommunications network that had a separate network operations centers for different vendors' equipment (like, for Siemens equipment, Alcatel equipment, AT&T/Lucent, etc.). So having multitude of management protocols is not unusual in the traditional telecommunicatons. That's not quite the way the Internet protocols operate. //Marcin From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: proposal. Is it possible to have a Spanish version?. Also, in May this year the Foundation NETWORKS, a member of ISOC-Bolivia chapter organizes a national symposium with government authorities in = order to build a national agenda on Internet governance. We are very = interested in joint efforts ISCOC preferably Spanish-speaking professionals. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: in 2010. We have progress and experiences in the field. Thank you very much, sorry for the translation help of google. Escuchar Leer fon=E9ticamente =20 =20 =20 J. Eduardo Rojas Presidente Ejecutivo REDES Calle V=EDctor Sanjin=E9s N=BA 2895 Piso 1 Of. 3 Tel/Fax: (591) 2-2911190 M=F3vil (591) 70192120 Skype: eduardosocio Twitter: eduardosocio www.fundacionredes.org La Paz, Bolivia - Latinoam=E9rica =20 =20 De: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de = Constance Bommelaer Enviado el: martes, 12 de abril de 2011 10:12 Para: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] Statement by the Internet technical and = academic community on UN CSTD WG on improvements to the IGF =20 Dear members, =20 This is to inform you that following the last meeting of the UN = Commission on Science and Technology for Development (CSTD) Working Group (WG) on improvements to the Internet Governance Forum (IGF), our community has worked together on drafting a common statement.=20 =20 The statement=92s primary objective is to ask CSTD member states to = decide, at their next meeting (23-27 May 2011, Geneva), to extend the mandate of = the CSTD WG on IGF. We believe this would allow the discussions on the = future of the IGF to remain based in Geneva, led by a multi-stakeholder group = feeding the CSTD instead of UN DESA (Department of Economic and Social Affaires; based in New York). =20 The statement below will be tweeted shortly and is already available = here: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/wsis/docs/tech-acadmc-statement_2011= 041 4.pdf . We invite you to read the statement and circulate to your = contacts (communities, governmental contacts, etc.) as appropriate. =20 ISOC is planning on participating to the next CSTD meeting in May and = will report back to its members as soon as we are aware of new and important developments in the process regarding the future of the IGF.=20 =20 =20 Thank you and best regards, =20 Constance Bommelaer =20 Useful links: Past contributions to the CSTD WG on IGF: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/wsis/IGF.shtml=20 UNACTD website: http://www.unctad.info/en/CstdWG/=20 =20 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 Statement by the Internet technical and academic community on the = Commission on Science and Technology for Development Working Group (CSTD WG) on improvements to the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) =20 12 April 2011 =20 Representatives of the Internet technical and academic community today = call for an extension to the mandate of the United Nations Commission on = Science and Technology for Development Working Group (CSTD WG) on improvements = to the Internet Governance Forum (IGF).=20 =20 The Working Group has met twice but, despite the best efforts of all parties, it has not been able to complete its work in the allocated = time. We strongly believe the IGF effectively brings all stakeholders together to increase their understanding of the interplay of public policy, business = and technical forces in Internet governance. With the extension of the IGF mandate, it is now vital to take the time needed to carefully consider options for the further development of the Forum. =20 The technical and academic representatives to the CSTD Working Group on improvements to the IGF would like to express their gratitude to the = Chair of the WG, Mr Fr=E9d=E9ric Riehl, and the CSTD Secretariat for the = effort they put into facilitating the WG meetings and discussions.=20 =20 We are pleased that the CSTD WG embraced multistakeholder participation during its deliberations, and was able to compile and review inputs from = all stakeholders on improvements to the IGF. We believe there were many = useful contributions submitted in response to the questionnaire drafted at the first meeting of the WG in Montreux. Unfortunately, due to time = limitations, the WG was not able to discuss those contributions in detail, or to = produce a report of recommended improvements by the end of its second meeting, = held in Geneva. The technical and academic representatives, like many of the other WG participants, had travelled large distances to attend both = two-day meetings of the WG, held in February and March 2011. We had also taken = the time to respond in significant detail to both calls for submissions to = the WG.=20 =20 The technical and academic representatives strongly support the IGF = model and are committed to seeing it improve, both in response to ongoing = changes from within the IGF process itself, as well as from the improvements requested in the UN General Assembly Resolution on =93Information and communications technologies for development=94, approved on 24 November = 2010. Only through such improvements will the IGF be better able to meet the = needs of all stakeholders in Internet governance. =20 This statement was written by the Internet technical and academic = community representatives to the CSTD WG on improvements to the IGF: =20 Ms Constance Bommelaer Senior Manager, Strategic Global Engagement Internet Society Email: bommelaer at isoc.org =20 Ms Samantha Dickinson Internet Governance Specialist APNIC Email: sam at apnic.net =20 Mr Baher Esmat Manager, Regional Relations =96 Middle East ICANN Email: baher.esmat at icann.org =20 Ms Nurani Nimpuno Outreach & Communications Manager Netnod Email: nurani at netnod.se =20 Mr Oscar Robles-Garay General Director for NIC M=E9xico LACNIC Board of Directors=20 Email: orobles at nic.mx =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CBF907.BCD760B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ESPA=D1OL

Estimada Constance,

Desde Bolivia estamos interesados en aportar y difundir = dicha propuesta. =BFSer=E1 posible contar con una versi=F3n en = Espa=F1ol?.

Asimismo, en mayo de este a=F1o la Fundaci=F3n REDES, = miembro del cap=EDtulo =A0ISOC-Bolivia organiza un Simposio nacional junto a = autoridades gubernamentales con miras a construir una agenda nacional sobre = Gobernanza de Internet. Nos interesar=EDa mucho articular esfuerzos de profesionales = de ISCOC preferentemente hispanoparlantes.

Desde Am=E9rica Latina, participamos en el FGE regional = en Quito-Ecuador en 2010. Ya tenemos avances y experiencias en el = campo.

Muchas gracias, disculpen la traducci=F3n con ayuda de = google.

INGL=C9S

<= /p>
Dear Constance,
From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: proposal. Is it possible to have a Spanish version?.
Also, in May this year the Foundation NETWORKS, a member of ISOC-Bolivia = chapter organizes a national symposium with government authorities in order to = build a national agenda on Internet governance. We are very interested in joint = efforts ISCOC preferably Spanish-speaking professionals.
From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: in 2010. We have progress and experiences in the field.
Thank you very much, sorry for the translation help of = google.

Escuchar<= /span>

Leer fon=E9ticamente<= /span>

J. Eduardo Rojas

Presidente Ejecutivo REDES

Calle V=EDctor Sanjin=E9s N=BA 2895 Piso 1 Of. = 3

Tel/Fax: (591) 2-2911190 M=F3vil (591) = 70192120

Skype: eduardosocio

Twitter: eduardosocio

www.fundacionredes.org

La Paz, Bolivia - Latinoam=E9rica

De: = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de = Constance Bommelaer
Enviado el: martes, 12 de abril de 2011 10:12
Para: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] Statement by the Internet technical = and academic community on UN CSTD WG on improvements to the = IGF

Dear members,

This is to inform you that following the last meeting of the UN Commission on Science and Technology for Development (CSTD) Working Group (WG) on improvements to the Internet Governance Forum (IGF), our community has = worked together on drafting a common statement.

The = statement’s primary objective is to ask CSTD member states to decide, at their next = meeting (23-27 May 2011, Geneva), to extend the mandate of the CSTD WG on IGF. = We believe this would allow the discussions on the future of the IGF to = remain based in Geneva, led by a multi-stakeholder group feeding the CSTD = instead of UN DESA (Department of Economic and Social Affaires; based in New = York).

The = statement below will be tweeted shortly and is already available here: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/wsis/docs/tech-aca= dmc-statement_20110414.pdf . We invite you to read the statement = and circulate to your contacts (communities, governmental contacts, etc.) as appropriate.

ISOC is = planning on participating to the next CSTD meeting in May and will report back to = its members as soon as we are aware of new and important developments in the process regarding the future of the IGF.

Thank you = and best regards,

Constance = Bommelaer

Useful = links:<= /span>

Past = contributions to the CSTD WG on IGF: http://www.i= soc.org/isoc/conferences/wsis/IGF.shtml

UNACTD = website: http://www.unctad.info/en/Cstd= WG/

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Statement by the Internet technical and academic = community on the Commission on Science and Technology for Development Working = Group (CSTD WG) on improvements to the Internet Governance Forum = (IGF)

12 April = 2011

Representatives of the Internet technical and academic community today call for an extension to = the mandate of the United Nations Commission on Science and Technology for Development Working Group (CSTD WG) on improvements to the Internet = Governance Forum (IGF).

The = Working Group has met twice but, despite the best efforts of all parties, it has not been = able to complete its work in the allocated time. We strongly believe the IGF effectively brings all stakeholders together to increase their = understanding of the interplay of public policy, business and technical forces in = Internet governance. With the extension of the IGF mandate, it is now vital to = take the time needed to carefully consider options for the further development of = the Forum.

The = technical and academic representatives to the CSTD Working Group on improvements to = the IGF would like to express their gratitude to the Chair of the WG, Mr = Fr=E9d=E9ric Riehl, and the CSTD Secretariat for the effort they put into = facilitating the WG meetings and discussions.

We are = pleased that the CSTD WG embraced multistakeholder participation during its = deliberations, and was able to compile and review inputs from all stakeholders on = improvements to the IGF. We believe there were many useful contributions submitted in = response to the questionnaire drafted at the first meeting of the WG in Montreux. Unfortunately, due to time limitations, the WG was not able to discuss = those contributions in detail, or to produce a report of recommended = improvements by the end of its second meeting, held in Geneva. The technical and = academic representatives, like many of the other WG participants, had travelled = large distances to attend both two-day meetings of the WG, held in February = and March 2011. We had also taken the time to respond in significant detail to = both calls for submissions to the WG.

The = technical and academic representatives strongly support the IGF model and are = committed to seeing it improve, both in response to ongoing changes from within the = IGF process itself, as well as from the improvements requested in the UN = General Assembly Resolution on “Information and communications = technologies for development”, approved on 24 November 2010. Only through such = improvements will the IGF be better able to meet the needs of all stakeholders in = Internet governance.

This statement was written by = the Internet technical and academic community representatives to the CSTD WG on = improvements to the IGF:

Ms Constance Bommelaer

Senior Manager, Strategic Global Engagement

Internet Society

Email: bommelaer at isoc.org

Ms = Samantha Dickinson

Internet Governance Specialist

APNIC

Email: sam at apnic.net

Mr Baher Esmat

Manager, Regional Relations – Middle East

ICANN

Email: baher.esmat at icann.org

Ms = Nurani Nimpuno

Outreach & Communications Manager

Netnod

Email: nurani at netnod.se

Mr Oscar Robles-Garay

General Director for NIC M=E9xico

LACNIC Board of Directors

Email: orobles at nic.mx

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AND =C2=A0Sivasubramanian wrote on: 26 July 2010 8:16:16 PM SAST:
> =C2=A0As I try to work on the list of members waiting for
> approvals -there are 250 members in the isoc chennai list- I find it > extremely difficulty to compare the data in the ams portal with the > data available at the chapter (which includes info about the member= 9;s
> affiliation etc).
>
> What is the reason why there are so many unwanted limitations on the > user interface? The members waiting for approval spreadsheet can not > be sorted in any desired order. By default it shows data sorted by the=
> date of application and the user can't sort the data in any other<= br> > order - name-wise, city-wise.
>
> The sheet does not generate any other summaries such as a sub-group of=
> the pending applicants belonging to a certain class ( a city, a
> company, a date range )
>
> This data is also not downloadable, unlike the approved members data.<= br> > I had to send a special request to you to get the data emailed to me.<= br>

I am still making requests for export o= f the members waiting for approval data, Lincoln McNey is very responsive, = he exports it to a spreadsheet using his privileges and posts in on a web-d= av folder and sends me the link and password. Good support, but is the situ= ation necessary?=C2=A0

After responding to my recent request for data in a spr= eadsheet, Lincoln had this to say:

We do have some changes coming to the Review Applicants page soon (hopef= ully this week), among them the ability to email Applicants directly from t= he page. =C2=A0I know you have been requesting this for some time. =C2=A0For a variety of reasons, the direct export from the Applicants page will= not be coming anytime soon, but I will discuss it again with the developer= s this week. =C2=A0

Perhaps some of the Chapter-delegates who are technical experts join t= his discussion to help them understand the simple gaps in the system that t= hey have developed and offer them technical help and guidance on completing= this task ? How many do we have in Chapters with expertise in Web Technolo= gies ?

Thank you
Sivasubramanian M

=C2=A0
>
> The chennai list has 242 members waiting for approval, the page shows<= br> > about 20 names, without a next page button, without options to alter > the number of applicants shown per page. So if I have to see the
> second page (for which there is no button), I will first have to
> approve all names in page 1 and then move on to page 2?

Veni wrote in another post how slow the system is. I find it's always t= iming out and I have to login again so it's effectively unworkable. Sim= ilar to the problem mentioned above some 9 months ago I get this error:

> Server Error in '/EBusiness' Application.
>
> Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. >
> Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of t= he current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information = about the error and where it originated in the code.
>
> Exception Details: System.OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type '= ;System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown.
>
> Source Error:
>
> An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the curre= nt web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the except= ion can be identified using the exception stack trace below.
>
> Stack Trace:
>
> [OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryExcept= ion' was thrown.]
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.String.InternalCopy(String str) +28
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Text.StringBuilder.ToString() +76
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexCharClass.ToStringCla= ss() +400
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexFC.GetFirstChars(Cult= ureInfo culture) +31
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.Replace(String input= , String pattern, String replacement) +34
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadInputControl.FormatCssClass(String pref= ix, String userDefined) +114
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Telerik.Web.UI.DatePickingInput.SetStyleClasses() +146 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadInputControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) += 32
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadDateInput.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +286=
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Telerik.Web.UI.DatePickingInput.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) = +238
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +80 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStag= esBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +842
>
> Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.3603; = ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.= 3601

After 10 years of promises that ISOC will assist chapters I do feel this ou= tcome is somewhat concerning.

Sincerely

Alan

--
Alan Levin
Internet Society of South Africa

_______________________________________________
Chapter-delegates mailing list
Chapter-delegates at elis= ts.isoc.org
https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates

--001485f20c1a94a47204a0bd5947-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: es' and a time consuming process.

AND =A0Sivasubramanian wrote on: 26 July 2010 8:16:16 PM SAST:
> =A0As I try to work on the list of members waiting for
> approvals -there are 250 members in the isoc chennai list- I find it > extremely difficulty to compare the data in the ams portal with the > data available at the chapter (which includes info about the member= 9;s
> affiliation etc).
>
> What is the reason why there are so many unwanted limitations on the > user interface? The members waiting for approval spreadsheet can not > be sorted in any desired order. By default it shows data sorted by the=
> date of application and the user can't sort the data in any other<= br> > order - name-wise, city-wise.
>
> The sheet does not generate any other summaries such as a sub-group of=
> the pending applicants belonging to a certain class ( a city, a
> company, a date range )
>
> This data is also not downloadable, unlike the approved members data.<= br> > I had to send a special request to you to get the data emailed to me.<= br>

I am still making requests for ex= port of the members waiting for approval data, Lincoln McNey is very respon= sive, he exports it to a spreadsheet using his privileges and posts in on a= web-dav folder and sends me the link and password. Good support, but is th= e situation necessary?=A0

After responding to my recent request for data in a spr= eadsheet, Lincoln had this to say:

We do have some changes coming to the Review Applicants page soon (hopef= ully this week), among them the ability to email Applicants directly from t= he page. =A0I know you have been requesting this for some time. =A0
For = a variety of reasons, the direct export from the Applicants page will not b= e coming anytime soon, but I will discuss it again with the developers this= week. =A0

Perhaps some of the Chapter-delegates who are technical experts join t= his discussion to help them understand the simple gaps in the system that t= hey have developed and offer them technical help and guidance on completing= this task ? How many do we have in Chapters with expertise in Web Technolo= gies ?

Thank you
Sivasubramanian M

=A0
>
> The chennai list has 242 members waiting for approval, the page shows<= br> > about 20 names, without a next page button, without options to alter > the number of applicants shown per page. So if I have to see the
> second page (for which there is no button), I will first have to
> approve all names in page 1 and then move on to page 2?

Veni wrote in another post how slow the system is. I find it's always t= iming out and I have to login again so it's effectively unworkable. Sim= ilar to the problem mentioned above some 9 months ago I get this error:

> Server Error in '/EBusiness' Application.
>
> Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. >
> Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of t= he current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information = about the error and where it originated in the code.
>
> Exception Details: System.OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type '= ;System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown.
>
> Source Error:
>
> An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the curre= nt web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the except= ion can be identified using the exception stack trace below.
>
> Stack Trace:
>
> [OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryExcept= ion' was thrown.]
> =A0 =A0System.String.InternalCopy(String str) +28
> =A0 =A0System.Text.StringBuilder.ToString() +76
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexCharClass.ToStringClass() += 400
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexFC.GetFirstChars(CultureInf= o culture) +31
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> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.Replace(String input, Stri= ng pattern, String replacement) +34
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadInputControl.FormatCssClass(String prefix, St= ring userDefined) +114
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.DatePickingInput.SetStyleClasses() +146
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadInputControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadDateInput.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +286
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> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBefo= reAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +842
>
> Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.3603; = ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.= 3601

After 10 years of promises that ISOC will assist chapters I do feel this ou= tcome is somewhat concerning.

Sincerely

Alan

--
Alan Levin
Internet Society of South Africa

_______________________________________________
Chapter-delegates mailing list
Chap= ter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates

_______________________________________________
Chapter-delegates mailing list
Chapter-delegates at elis= ts.isoc.org
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--00032555996293324904a0d0047f-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: es' and a time consuming process.

AND =A0Sivasubramanian wrote on: 26 July 2010 8:16:16 PM SAST:
> =A0As I try to work on the list of members waiting for
> approvals -there are 250 members in the isoc chennai list- I find it > extremely difficulty to compare the data in the ams portal with the > data available at the chapter (which includes info about the member= 9;s
> affiliation etc).
>
> What is the reason why there are so many unwanted limitations on the > user interface? The members waiting for approval spreadsheet can not > be sorted in any desired order. By default it shows data sorted by the=
> date of application and the user can't sort the data in any other<= br> > order - name-wise, city-wise.
>
> The sheet does not generate any other summaries such as a sub-group of=
> the pending applicants belonging to a certain class ( a city, a
> company, a date range )
>
> This data is also not downloadable, unlike the approved members data.<= br> > I had to send a special request to you to get the data emailed to me.<= br>

I am still making requests for ex= port of the members waiting for approval data, Lincoln McNey is very respon= sive, he exports it to a spreadsheet using his privileges and posts in on a= web-dav folder and sends me the link and password. Good support, but is th= e situation necessary?=A0

After responding to my recent request for data in a spr= eadsheet, Lincoln had this to say:

We do have some changes coming to the Review Applicants page soon (hopef= ully this week), among them the ability to email Applicants directly from t= he page. =A0I know you have been requesting this for some time. =A0
For = a variety of reasons, the direct export from the Applicants page will not b= e coming anytime soon, but I will discuss it again with the developers this= week. =A0

Perhaps some of the Chapter-delegates who are technical experts join t= his discussion to help them understand the simple gaps in the system that t= hey have developed and offer them technical help and guidance on completing= this task ? How many do we have in Chapters with expertise in Web Technolo= gies ?

Thank you
Sivasubramanian M

= =A0
>
> The chennai list has 242 members waiting for approval, the page shows<= br> > about 20 names, without a next page button, without options to alter > the number of applicants shown per page. So if I have to see the
> second page (for which there is no button), I will first have to
> approve all names in page 1 and then move on to page 2?

Veni wrote in another post how slow the system is. I find it's always t= iming out and I have to login again so it's effectively unworkable. Sim= ilar to the problem mentioned above some 9 months ago I get this error:

> Server Error in '/EBusiness' Application.
>
> Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. >
> Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of t= he current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information = about the error and where it originated in the code.
>
> Exception Details: System.OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type '= ;System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown.
>
> Source Error:
>
> An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the curre= nt web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the except= ion can be identified using the exception stack trace below.
>
> Stack Trace:
>
> [OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryExcept= ion' was thrown.]
> =A0 =A0System.String.InternalCopy(String str) +28
> =A0 =A0System.Text.StringBuilder.ToString() +76
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexCharClass.ToStringClass() += 400
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexFC.GetFirstChars(CultureInf= o culture) +31
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexFCD.FirstChars(RegexTree t)= +139
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexWriter.RegexCodeFromRegexTr= ee(RegexTree tree) +304
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex..ctor(String pattern, Rege= xOptions options, Boolean useCache) +352
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.Replace(String input, Stri= ng pattern, String replacement) +34
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadInputControl.FormatCssClass(String prefix, St= ring userDefined) +114
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.DatePickingInput.SetStyleClasses() +146
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadInputControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadDateInput.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +286
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.DatePickingInput.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +238 > =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +80
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> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBefo= reAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +842
>
> Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.3603; = ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.= 3601

After 10 years of promises that ISOC will assist chapters I do feel this ou= tcome is somewhat concerning.

Sincerely

Alan

--
Alan Levin
Internet Society of South Africa

_______________________________________________
Chapter-delegates mailing list
Chap= ter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates

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--001517447c822f78e204a0d1d5a1-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: es' and a time consuming process.

AND =A0Sivasubramanian wrote on: 26 July 2010 8:16:16 PM SAST:
> =A0As I try to work on the list of members waiting for
> approvals -there are 250 members in the isoc chennai list- I find it > extremely difficulty to compare the data in the ams portal with the > data available at the chapter (which includes info about the member= 9;s
> affiliation etc).
>
> What is the reason why there are so many unwanted limitations on the > user interface? The members waiting for approval spreadsheet can not > be sorted in any desired order. By default it shows data sorted by the=
> date of application and the user can't sort the data in any other<= br> > order - name-wise, city-wise.
>
> The sheet does not generate any other summaries such as a sub-group of=
> the pending applicants belonging to a certain class ( a city, a
> company, a date range )
>
> This data is also not downloadable, unlike the approved members data.<= br> > I had to send a special request to you to get the data emailed to me.<= br>
I am still making requests for export of the members waiting for approval d= ata, Lincoln McNey is very responsive, he exports it to a spreadsheet using= his privileges and posts in on a web-dav folder and sends me the link and = password. Good support, but is the situation necessary?

After responding to my recent request for data in a spreadsheet, Lincoln ha= d this to say:

We do have some changes coming to the Review Applicants page soon (hopefull= y this week), among them the ability to email Applicants directly from the = page. =A0I know you have been requesting this for some time.
For a variety of reasons, the direct export from the Applicants page will n= ot be coming anytime soon, but I will discuss it again with the developers = this week.
Perhaps some of the Chapter-delegates who are technical experts join this d= iscussion to help them understand the simple gaps in the system that they h= ave developed and offer them technical help and guidance on completing this= task ? How many do we have in Chapters with expertise in Web Technologies = ?

Thank you
Sivasubramanian M

>
> The chennai list has 242 members waiting for approval, the page shows<= br> > about 20 names, without a next page button, without options to alter > the number of applicants shown per page. So if I have to see the
> second page (for which there is no button), I will first have to
> approve all names in page 1 and then move on to page 2?

Veni wrote in another post how slow the system is. I find it's always t= iming out and I have to login again so it's effectively unworkable. Sim= ilar to the problem mentioned above some 9 months ago I get this error:

> Server Error in '/EBusiness' Application.
>
> Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. >
> Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of t= he current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information = about the error and where it originated in the code.
>
> Exception Details: System.OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type '= ;System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown.
>
> Source Error:
>
> An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the curre= nt web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the except= ion can be identified using the exception stack trace below.
>
> Stack Trace:
>
> [OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryExcept= ion' was thrown.]
> =A0 =A0System.String.InternalCopy(String str) +28
> =A0 =A0System.Text.StringBuilder.ToString() +76
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexCharClass.ToStringClass() += 400
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexFC.GetFirstChars(CultureInf= o culture) +31
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexFCD.FirstChars(RegexTree t)= +139
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexWriter.RegexCodeFromRegexTr= ee(RegexTree tree) +304
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex..ctor(String pattern, Rege= xOptions options, Boolean useCache) +352
> =A0 =A0System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.Replace(String input, Stri= ng pattern, String replacement) +34
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadInputControl.FormatCssClass(String prefix, St= ring userDefined) +114
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.DatePickingInput.SetStyleClasses() +146
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadInputControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.RadDateInput.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +286
> =A0 =A0Telerik.Web.UI.DatePickingInput.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +238 > =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +80
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +171
> =A0 =A0System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBefo= reAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +842
>
> Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.3603; = ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.= 3601

After 10 years of promises that ISOC will assist chapters I do feel this ou= tcome is somewhat concerning.

Sincerely

Alan

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--90e6ba476ad70dad9304a12b80ab-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: northern hemisphere, differences between U.S. and European chapters are significant. Also rejuvenated and newly formed chapters tend to operate differently than those that are around longer. That said we need to find common ground to make sure ISOC is able to operate globally leveraging local presence and influence of chapters. I have observed some other Internet-based global organizations and they face similar issues with diverse chapters all around the world. If you have any more questions, especially those that would fit in the Q10, please go ahead, we still have few hours to go. Btw, the bio thing is going to be fixed soon. //Marcin From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/05/27/0233251/Polands-Prime-Minister-Goes-For-Open-Government A bit more background fro Internet Society Poland: http://www.isoc.org.pl/201105/internet-dialogue-poland POLAND TO CONTINUE OPEN MULTI-STAKEHOLDER DIALOGUE ON INTERNET ISSUES WARSAW -- 18 MAY 2011. Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk hosted a meeting of Internet community, industry representatives and government officials to discuss progress on the ongoing consultation process regarding Internet governance in Poland. This was already a third meeting held as a result of the overturn of an initial government decision of February 2010 to introduce countrywide blocking of websites containing illicit content. This time the Prime Minister announced a government decision to assume unconstrained availability of the public information for re-use by the private sector as the general rule of the upcoming implementation of the European directive. "Whatever is created with public money should be owned by the public, including those who want to utilize it at their own discretion. By the same token, whenever public information is created the outcome should also be owned by all those interested", Mr Tusk said. The issues discussed today included also Internet blocking schemes, mandatory data retention, regulation of the convergent on-demand services as well as liability of Internet service providers and notice and takedown procedures. The Internet community representatives have welcomed progress on some of the issues as well as indicating items still to be resolved during working meetings starting early next week. "We have developed a good working relationship now with all those involved in the process. We hope that Poland develops a successful model of open, multi-stakeholder consultation that could be followed all across Europe," said Marcin Cieslak of Internet Society Poland. The next meeting with the PM is expected to be held in June, shortly before Poland assumes presidency of the Council of the European Union. Most of the legislation discussed is due to be implemented before a general election scheduled for October this year. ABOUT INTERNET SOCIETY POLAND Established in 2000, Internet Society Poland is a national chapter of the Internet Society (ISOC), a nonprofit organisation founded in 1992 to provide leadership in Internet related standards, education and policy. ISOC's key initiatives target the critical issues that affect all aspects of Internet development and growth. They embody ISOC's philosophy that the Internet is for everyone and they provide the organization with a solid foundation from which to positively influence standards development, access, business practices, and government policies. For more information, please contact: Marcin Cieslak +48 784 322 999 saper at saper.info From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: g for the Internet Governance Forum, is being held in Port of Spain, Trinidad & Tobago. The meeting is being webcast live, with simultaneous translation to English. *What:* LAC.IG4 *When:* 9-11 August 2011 *Agenda:* http://bit.ly/lacig4agenda *Webcast:* http://bit.ly/lacig4 *Twitter:* #lacigf There will be an =93Introduction to ISOC-TT/ISOC=94 event held by the Inter= net Society Trinidad & Tobago Chapter (ISOC-TT) on Wednesday 10 August at 6pm. This may be webcast live on the Internet Societ= y Chapters livestream channel, but details are still being arranged. *More*: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3D2384-- --=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - --0023545306980ae68204aa1a492a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Two bits of good viewing..

= =3D=3D iBreakfast 'Master of Your Domain" New TLDs conference =3D= =3D

Video from last week's new TLD event i= n NYC, which was mainly aimed at corporations considering .brand type appli= cations, is now archived on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.c= om/playlist?list=3DPL66A04B1808AABF48

There's a couple of segments missing at the end inc= luding some Q&A as I am waiting on a transcription from Tony Kirsch fro= m ausregistry. They'll be added later in the week.

There's a brief summary here=A0http://ibreakfast.blogspot.com/2011/0= 8/esther-dyson-stands-her-ground-at-new.html

Edmon Chung of dot asia gave an excellent all round presenta= tion.=A0

More:=A0http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3D2384

=3D=3DLAC.IGF4 underway in Trinidad =3D=3D=

From 9-11 August =A0the 4th Latin American &a= mp; Caribbean Preparatory Meeting for the Internet Governance Forum, is bei= ng held in Port of Spain, Trinidad & Tobago. The meeting is being webca= st live, with simultaneous translation to English.

What:=A0LAC.IG4

When:=A0=A09-11 August 2011<= br>Agenda:=A0http://bit.ly/lacig4agenda
Webcast:=A0http://bit.ly/lacig4
Twitter:=A0#lacigf

There will be an = =93Introduction to ISOC-TT/ISOC=94 event held by the=A0Internet Society Trinidad & Tobago Chapter=A0(ISOC-TT) = on Wednesday 10 August at 6pm. This may be webcast live on the=A0Internet Society Chapters livest= ream channel,=A0but details are still being arranged.
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--0023545306980ae68204aa1a492a-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ng for a variant of ISOC and only 10% were looking for variants of "In= ternet Society"

Keeping ISOC.DE as main do= main und continuing with w= ww.isoc.de seems appropriate.
Perhaps adding inte= rnetsociety.de (or internet-society.de), if we can reach a solution with the current = domain-holder, =A0as an additional entry for www may be OK.
Making it an additional path to our website and keeping isoc.de stable to keep all references usable = seems an acceptable solution.

My guess is that it will only take another 10 years for "Internetsocie= ty" to reach the usage level of ISOC - so enough time to do several mo= re naming changes.

But even doing only the small step of an additional domain is costing a lot= of effort and some money:
=A0 =A0 - acquiring the name by finding an agreement with the current hold= er (possibly using money, taking a lot of personal effort in any case)
=A0 =A0 - doing an official transfer of the domain
=A0 =A0 - paying duties for the new domain
=A0 =A0 - setting up DNS an additional background works to make the domain= usable
=A0 =A0 - changing the CMS, supporting second name correctly
=A0 =A0 - changing content on the website to use new name in addition to o= ld
=A0 =A0 - changing/extending certificates or buying new ones to reflect th= e new name
=A0 =A0 - changing legal registration
=A0 =A0- =A0changing references in many places ...
And that covers only the web-part.

But the web is not everything.
We are using ISOCDE for twitter - changing that into INTERNETSOCIETYGERMANY= would be really ugly (and who likes such long names in TWITTER??)
We are not on facebook - so no problem there
We are not on Youtube, googlegroups, linkedin, Xing, <name your favorite= service here> - so no additional problems here

But there is one really huge other area - Ok - it is old fashioned - but I = and many of our members like it: =A0EMAIL

Part of our offer to our members is the usage of myname at isoc.de for email (a free service to all our members). This offered a stable email-address over many years and is realized as a fo= rwarding service.
Several people are using their name at isoc.de= address for example to keep a constant point of reference, even if the= y change business affiliation.
These email-addresses are buried deep into thousands of email-address-books= , printed on thousands of business cards (yes they still exist), stored in = million emails in private and public email-archives and thousands of archiv= es of discussion/email-lists.
Rendering all these addresses useless by changing to yourname at internetsociety.de is absolutely out = of discussion from my point of view.
I will not list all the necessary steps to add another domain to the email-= forwarding, change the backend-processes doing the automated address-genera= tion from our membership.-database, changing all our the mailing-lists, cha= nging our business-cards, changing letter-head and and and.

So
=A0 - my conclusion is: we will keep isoc.de as our main domain.
=A0 - we will continue to discuss if it is worth the effort to add another= domain and wait for some (slow) change in usage.
=A0 - we will use isoc.de= for our email service and do no change there
=A0 - we will not shut down i= soc.de or stop using it in near future

Hans Peter

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--e0cb4efe3052f725b604b486b5b9-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ng for a variant of ISOC and only 10% were looking for variants of "In= ternet Society"

Keeping ISOC.DE as main do= main und continuing with w= ww.isoc.de seems appropriate.
Perhaps adding inte= rnetsociety.de (or internet-society.de), if we can reach a solution with the current = domain-holder, =A0as an additional entry for www may be OK.
Making it an additional path to our website and keeping isoc.de stable to keep all references usable = seems an acceptable solution.

My guess is that it will only take another 10 years for "Internetsocie= ty" to reach the usage level of ISOC - so enough time to do several mo= re naming changes.

But even doing only the small step of an additional domain is costing a lot= of effort and some money:
=A0 =A0 - acquiring the name by finding an agreement with the current hold= er (possibly using money, taking a lot of personal effort in any case)
=A0 =A0 - doing an official transfer of the domain
=A0 =A0 - paying duties for the new domain
=A0 =A0 - setting up DNS an additional background works to make the domain= usable
=A0 =A0 - changing the CMS, supporting second name correctly
=A0 =A0 - changing content on the website to use new name in addition to o= ld
=A0 =A0 - changing/extending certificates or buying new ones to reflect th= e new name
=A0 =A0 - changing legal registration
=A0 =A0- =A0changing references in many places ...
And that covers only the web-part.

But the web is not everything.
We are using ISOCDE for twitter - changing that into INTERNETSOCIETYGERMANY= would be really ugly (and who likes such long names in TWITTER??)
We are not on facebook - so no problem there
We are not on Youtube, googlegroups, linkedin, Xing, <name your favorite= service here> - so no additional problems here

But there is one really huge other area - Ok - it is old fashioned - but I = and many of our members like it: =A0EMAIL

Part of our offer to our members is the usage of myname at isoc.de for email (a free service to a= ll our members).
This offered a stable email-address over many years and is realized as a fo= rwarding service.
Several people are using their name at isoc.de address for example to keep a constant point of refe= rence, even if they change business affiliation.
These email-addresses are buried deep into thousands of email-address-books= , printed on thousands of business cards (yes they still exist), stored in = million emails in private and public email-archives and thousands of archiv= es of discussion/email-lists.
Rendering all these addresses useless by changing to yourname at internetsociety.de = is absolutely out of discussion from my point of view.
I will not list all the necessary steps to add another domain to the email-= forwarding, change the backend-processes doing the automated address-genera= tion from our membership.-database, changing all our the mailing-lists, cha= nging our business-cards, changing letter-head and and and.

So
=A0 - my conclusion is: we will keep isoc.de as our main domain.
=A0 - we will continue to discuss if it is worth the effort to add another= domain and wait for some (slow) change in usage.
=A0 - we will use isoc.de= for our email service and do no change there
=A0 - we will not shut down i= soc.de or stop using it in near future

Hans Peter

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--0015174be85a26ea6f04b48d223c-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: that "InternetSociety.org" is more meaningful on press releases from HQ, especially with capital I and S. Patrick Vande Walle --------------090806040908090106080105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 23/12/11 15:08, Eduard Tric wrote:

Hi Andreu, This was also my initial suggestion, to have **.isoc.org and **.internetsociety.org aliases distributed to each and every recognized chapter. The cost for this operation would be 0 , it's just a matter making some changes in the dns.

I am afraid the cost of maintaining this?? would be substantially greater than?? 0 for the HQ DNS admins. Think they would have to update the NS records the sub-domains, plus DS keys for sub-domains, etc..?? I am not sure all chapters have their own DNS server either. Hence, HQ would have to administer the sub-domain. Yet another cost.
????

Khaled suggestion is also good, chapters could ask for funding if the registration costs are high.

More than a question of cost, it is also if it is relevant to have two domain names. "ISOC" is meaningful and unambiguous in my local community. "Internet Society" much less. Some less English-savvy?? locals translate it literally to French,?? and think we are a commercial ISP :-)

From my side, I see no added value at the local level,?? I agree though that "InternetSociety.org" is more meaningful on press releases from HQ, especially with capital I and S.

Patrick Vande Walle

--------------090806040908090106080105-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: celebration of 20 years with more than 130,000 users of the Foundation NETWORKS who = is a member Bolivian chapter of ISOC. However, not all users read and write = in English. Hopefully you can make this effort, thinking of the Hispanic community. Greetings and happy holidays. =20 =20 =20 J. Eduardo Rojas Presidente Ejecutivo REDES Calle V=EDctor Sanjin=E9s N=BA 2895 Piso 1 Of. 3 Tel/Fax: (591) 2-2911190 M=F3vil (591) 70192120 Skype/Twitter/Linkedin: eduardosocio www.fundacionredes.org La Paz, Bolivia - Latinoam=E9rica =20 =20 =20 =20 De: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de Greg = Wood Enviado el: jueves, 05 de enero de 2012 15:47 Para: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch CC: Chapter Delegates Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A Special Logo to Celebrate the Internet Society's 20th Anniversary =20 Hello Alejandro, =20 Thank you for your query. =20 Versions in Spanish are now available: =20 http://www.internetsociety.org/20th-anniversary-logo =20 We are also developing in other languages as well (Arabic, Chinese, = French, Russian) and should have those available in the next week or so. =20 I would be pleased to hear interest in other languages as well. =20 -Greg =20 On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote: Greg, =20 thanks a lot - good to know we are not facing massive change in our communication materials (as correctly warned by Rudi, I think), and sad = to see this slip.=20 =20 Question: do you have plans to release versions of the anniversary logo = in other languages, liks Spanish, and a schedule for that? =20 Be it so or not, can you tell what are the fonts and weights involved, = in case anyone wants or needs to start earlier? =20 Thanks again. =20 Yours, =20 Alejandro Pisanty =20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 *Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com *LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty *Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 *Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . = . . _____ =20 Desde: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Greg Wood [wood at isoc.org] Enviado el: martes, 03 de enero de 2012 15:00 Hasta: Joly MacFie CC: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A Special Logo to Celebrate the Internet Society's 20th Anniversary Hi Joly, =20 Thanks for catching the variation, which has now been corrected. =20 The official blue remains Pantone 286. We are working on an updated (and expanded) set of style guidelines, including resources for Chapters, for = the new website. =20 Sincerely, =20 -Greg =20 =20 On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: Hi Greg, =20 I note the 20yr logo is RGB #005DAB while the logo at the top of the = page is RGB #135EAB. !s RGB #000099 now deprecated - is there an official new = blue? =20 j On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Greg Wood wrote: Dear Colleagues, To celebrate the Internet Society's 20th anniversary in 2012 we have = crafted a special edition of the Internet Society logo. I wanted to share it directly with you in advance of its public unveiling. Designed to be used throughout 2012, you will begin seeing this logo on = the Internet Society webpage and in the materials we create over the next = year. We have created an initial set of downloadable logos. We plan to post = badges for use by members and Chapters, and will be producing special-edition versions of materials such as laptop stickers. You will find all of these and more at: http://www.internetsociety.org/20th-anniversary-logo We welcome your further ideas to mark this momentous milestone in the Internet Society's history! Sincerely, -Greg -- Greg Wood Internet Society InternetSociety.org office: +1-703-439-2145 =20 mobile: +1-703-625-3917 =20 _______________________________________________ Chapter-delegates mailing list Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates =20 --=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast = =20 WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com =20 http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com =20 VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org =20 -------------------------------------------------------------- - =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CCCBC3.629D77D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ESPA=D1OL

Estimados colegas,

Coincido con Alejandro que es necesario contar con una = versi=F3n en espa=F1ol, particularmente por la importancia de atender la = diversidad ling=FC=EDstica en Internet.

Desde Bolivia, tenemos posibilidades de difundir el logo = y noticias de ISOC en celebraci=F3n de los 20 a=F1os con m=E1s de 130.000 = usuarios de la Fundaci=F3n REDES que es miembro del cap=EDtulo boliviano ISOC. Sin = embargo, no todos los usuarios leen y escriben en ingl=E9s.

Esperamos que se pueda hacer este esfuerzo, pensando en = la comunidad hispana.

Saludos y felices fiestas.

INGL=C9S

Dear = Colleagues,
I agree with = Alexander that is necessary to have a Spanish version, particularly by addressing the importance of linguistic = diversity on the Internet.
From Bolivia, we are likely to spread the news and ISOC logo in celebration of 20 years with = more than 130,000 users of the Foundation NETWORKS who is a member Bolivian chapter of ISOC. However, not all users read and = write in English.
Hopefully you can = make this effort, thinking of = the Hispanic community.
Greetings and = happy holidays.

J. Eduardo Rojas

Presidente Ejecutivo REDES

Calle V=EDctor Sanjin=E9s N=BA 2895 Piso 1 Of. = 3

Tel/Fax: (591) 2-2911190 M=F3vil (591) = 70192120

Skype/Twitter/Linkedin: = eduardosocio

www.fundacionredes.org

La Paz, Bolivia - Latinoam=E9rica

De: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org = [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de Greg Wood
Enviado el: jueves, 05 de enero de 2012 15:47
Para: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
CC: Chapter Delegates
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A Special Logo to Celebrate the = Internet Society's 20th Anniversary

Hello Alejandro,

Thank you for your query.

Versions in Spanish are now = available:

http://www.= internetsociety.org/20th-anniversary-logo

We are also developing in other languages as well = (Arabic, Chinese, French, Russian) and should have those available in the next = week or so.

I would be pleased to hear interest in other = languages as well.

-Greg

On Jan 3, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty = Baruch wrote:

Greg,

thanks a lot - good to know we are not facing massive = change in our communication materials (as correctly warned by Rudi, I think), and = sad to see this slip.

Question: do you have plans to release versions of the = anniversary logo in other languages, liks Spanish, and a schedule for = that?

Be it so or not, can you tell what are the fonts and = weights involved, in case anyone wants or needs to start = earlier?

Thanks again.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

. . . . = . . . . . . . . . . = . . . . . . . . . . = . .
Dr. Alejandro = Pisanty
UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico = DF Mexico

Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, = +52-(1)-55-5418-3732

*Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
*LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pi= santy
*Unete al grupo UNAM en = LinkedIn, http://www.link= edin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
*Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty
---->> Unete a ISOC = Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
. . . . . = . . . . . . . . . . = . . . . . . . . . . = .=

Desde: chapter-delegat= es-bounces at elists.isoc.org [chapter-delegat= es-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Greg Wood [wood at isoc.org]
Enviado el: martes, 03 de enero de 2012 15:00
Hasta: Joly = MacFie
CC: chapter-delegates at elist= s.isoc.org
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A Special Logo to Celebrate the Internet Society's = 20th Anniversary

Hi = Joly,

Thanks for catching the = variation, which has now been corrected.

The official blue = remains Pantone 286. We are working on an updated (and expanded) set of style = guidelines, including resources for Chapters, for the new = website.

Sincerely,

-Greg

On Dec 29, 2011, at = 7:24 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:

Hi = Greg,

I note the 20yr logo is = RGB #005DAB while the logo at the top of the page is RGB #135EAB. !s RGB = #000099 now deprecated - is there an official new blue?

j

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at = 3:22 PM, Greg Wood <wood at isoc.org> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

To celebrate the Internet Society's 20th anniversary in 2012 we have = crafted a special edition of the Internet Society logo. I wanted to share it = directly with you in advance of its public unveiling.

Designed to be used throughout 2012, you will begin seeing this logo on = the Internet Society webpage and in the materials we create over the next = year.

We have created an initial set of downloadable logos. We plan to post = badges for use by members and Chapters, and will be producing special-edition = versions of materials such as laptop stickers.

You will find all of these and more at:

http://www.internetsociety.org/20th-anniversary-logo

We welcome your further ideas to mark this momentous milestone in the = Internet Society's history!

Sincerely,

-Greg

--
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Internet Society

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mobile: +1-703-625-3917
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CCCBC3.629D77D0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: s defined), and BY VIRTUE OF THE ALLEGATION seizes control of Bob's propert= y (however that is defined). There are cases in which we in fact do that, b= ut they are in criminal law - if a police officer thinks that a crime is in= progress, they can break into a house, arrest its occupants, and hold them= pending trial. In civil law, the counterpart would be that the plaintiff m= akes a complaint to a judge and the judge makes the defendant post a bond w= hich will be returned should the eventual suit fail - which we don't do. CO= ICA/SOPA/PIPA/etc, as I understand them, leave the judge out of that - the = assets (a domain name) are seized before the judge is ever brought into the= picture and before a case is presented. To my mind, that is a violation of= the spirit of our fifth and sixth constitutional amendments: > No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous cr= ime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases= arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual ser= vice in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for t= he same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be c= ompelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be depri= ved of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall pr= ivate property be taken for public use, without just compensation. > In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a spee= dy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein= the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previo= usly ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the = accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compul= sory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistan= ce of Counsel for his defence. I say "spirit", because these deal with criminal cases and I'm applying the= m to civil disputes. But I'm talking about the right to due process, and th= e right to have a trial. If there is a proceeding in court, the defendant h= as the opportunity face his/her accuser, and the judgement is that the plai= ntiff should get control of some of the assets of the defendant, that is wi= thin legal bounds; having that happen as a result of the accusation without= a proceeding is a problem. Yes, we have already had that happen - per something I read somewhere, a re= asonably large number of web sites have already been taken down as a result= of the accusation, and on legal consideration it has been found that in ma= ny cases the sites had not been engaged in the activity they were accused o= f. My concern with HADOPI is in part that it is the prototype for these laws. = It does involve a judge, but where one might expect the judge to issue a wa= rrant for investigation or arrest, the judge authorizes an attack on an ins= titution in terms of taking down its DNS name and/or preventing routing to = it. I raised the question because I am signatory to the EFF open letter to = congress on SOPA, but I don't think the US is the sole source of these laws= , nor is it even the first. So while you're saying things about COICA/SOPA/= PIPA/OPEN/etc, don't delude yourself into thinking it's only the US. _______________________________________________ Chapter-delegates mailing list Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: our expectations on Mme Hu ... its rather how we define and document our relationship to ISC, and how ISOC will use the unique opportunity (of Mme Hu's presence) to discuss and learn more about her and ISC's view on Internet, the need for control (we might call it censorship), and the implications for the Internet in China. Looking forward to Walda's statement on this, Klaus PS/bonus: From the discussions about the new web site I learned that ISOC communication will be more on */story telling/*. So here (*skit*) the story *not* to read after INET2012: /Nearly one fifth of the world's population lives in China. T//he chairwoman of the Internet Society of China, Mme Hu, brought best wished and congratulations to INET 2012. In her speach Mme Hu mentioned that the anniversary of the [//editor's note: //international] Internet Society should be used as an opportunity to strengthen and extent the long lasting good cooperation between both organizations. "It is essential" Mme Hu said "that we take extreme care and any effort to ensure that the Internet does not break apart and will continue to foster the exchange of information, contribute to the wealth of all people and helps to ensure peace on earth." She mentioned that the Internet society of China strongly supports the //[//editor's note: //international] Internet Society's mission to make the Internet accessible for everyone. //Mme Hu was a member of the UN research program ???Science, Technology and Innovation???, and has been a member of WGIG (Working Group on Internet Governance) in 2004-2005. The Internet Society of China is in charge of providing important central services for the Chinese Internet as there are Domain Name Services and policy enforcement. Lynn St. Amour, President/CEO of the //[//editor's note: //international] Internet Society thanked Mme Hu emphasizing Mme Hu's long lasting engagement for the //Chinese //Internet, which might not even exist without Mme Hu's continued commitment. Both organizations signed an agreement on closer cooperation while disregarding minor differences of opinion with regard to Internet regulation. Unfortunately the tense program of INET2012 gave only room for a few questions. / -- Klaus Birkenbihl Internet Society German Chapter e.V. (ISOC.DE) c/o ict-Media GmbH http://www.isoc.de/ --------------010202070709070308090308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks you Ted,

with respect to providing a public viewing for INET2012 I got the feedback from our board that for our membership which is spread over Germany (and Austria) it doesn't make much difference to go to e.g. Berlin or Munic or Geneva. So people would rather join life than on tv.

Ted Mooney wrote on 2012-02-24 17:41:

Thanks, Klaus. The dialog on the issue of ISC participation at the Global INET within this community has been excellent and well informed. Moreover, there is clearly more agreement than disagreement. Walda has offered to provide more about how we expect Mme Hu to engage and how we collectively want to engage her.

From the chapters discussion so far: it should not so much be about our expectations on Mme Hu ... its rather how we define and document our relationship to ISC, and how ISOC will use the unique opportunity (of Mme Hu's presence) to discuss and learn more about her and ISC's view on Internet, the need for control (we might call it censorship), and the implications for the Internet in China.
Looking forward to Walda's statement on this,

Klaus
PS/bonus: From the discussions about the new web site I learned that ISOC communication will be more on story telling. So here (skit) the story not to read after INET2012:
Nearly one fifth of the world's population lives in China. The chairwoman of the Internet Society of China, Mme Hu, brought best wished and congratulations to INET 2012. In her speach Mme Hu mentioned that the anniversary of the [editor's note: international] Internet Society should be used as an opportunity to strengthen and extent the long lasting good cooperation between both organizations. "It is essential" Mme Hu said "that we take extreme care and any effort to ensure that the Internet does not break apart and will continue to foster the exchange of information, contribute to the wealth of all people and helps to ensure peace on earth." She mentioned that the Internet society of China strongly supports the [editor's note: international] Internet Society's mission to make the Internet accessible for everyone. Mme Hu was a member of the UN research program ???Science, Technology and Innovation???, and has been a member of WGIG (Working Group on Internet Governance) in 2004-2005. The Internet Society of China is in charge of providing important central services for the Chinese Internet as there are Domain Name Services and policy enforcement. Lynn St. Amour, President/CEO of the [editor's note: international] Internet Society thanked Mme Hu emphasizing Mme Hu's long lasting engagement for the Chinese Internet, which might not even exist without Mme Hu's continued commitment. Both organizations signed an agreement on closer cooperation while disregarding minor differences of opinion with regard to Internet regulation. Unfortunately the tense program of INET2012 gave only room for a few questions. ??

-- Klaus Birkenbihl Internet Society German Chapter e.V. (ISOC.DE) c/o ict-Media GmbH http://www.isoc.de/
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And I guess there will also be sort of a greek chorus on stage to react, kind of unusual. Cheers Bill http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 *************************************************** William J. 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And I guess there will also be sort of a greek chorus on stage to react, kind of unusual. Cheers Bill http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29537 *************************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation=A0Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland william.drake at uzh.ch www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake www.williamdrake.org **************************************************** --=20 --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie=A0 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com =A0http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com =A0VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - _______________________________________________ Chapter-delegates mailing list Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: great that the ISOC Egypt Chapter is there to safeguard and channel this voice! Celebrations Cintra Sooknanan ISOCTT On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Narelle Clark wr= ote: > This one we will welcome with open hearts. > > My congratulations to all of our Egyptian sisters and brothers for their > belief in the necessity of an open and ubiquitous Internet. > > Through all the nation rebuilding they are doing right now it is an honou= r > that they would find remaking the Chapter a priority. > > For this I thank them and wish their efforts every success! > > My very best wishes in this journey along with all your others. > > > best regards > > > Narelle > > > -- > > > Narelle Clark > President > Internet Society of Australia > ph: 0412 297 043 > int ph: +61 412 297 043 > president at isoc-au.org.au > www.isoc-au.org.au > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Following the local rejuvenation effort over the last months, including > > several member meetings and online discussions, the application below f= or > > (re-)starting a Chapter of the Internet Society in Egypt has been > > received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and review. Th= e > > period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 24 March > > 2012. > > > > Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list with your feedback. > > > > Thanks, > > Sabrina Wilmot > > Manager, Chapter Formation > > Internet Society > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > Chapter Application > > > > A. Proposed name of the Chapter > > > > The Chapter name must include both "Internet Society" and "Chapter". > These > > may be translated into your local language. > > > > -- "Internet Society Egypt Chapter" > > > > B. Community of Interest the Chapter will to serve > > > > Geography is a common choice for a community of interest, for example, > > within a country or city. However, any well-defined group of individual= s > > is acceptable. > > > > -- Egyptian community nationwide. > > > > C. Purpose and Scope of Chapter > > > > It is important to indicate how you intend to serve your community of > > interest and why a Chapter of the Internet Society is a good way to do > it. > > > > Mission: "Internet as a key tool for empowering the Egyptian society". > > > > In fulfilling its mission, "Internet Society Egypt Chapter" shall: > > =E2=80=A2 Promote the utilization of the Internet in the development of= the > > Egyptian economy and knowledge=E2=80 based society > > =E2=80=A2 Promote Internet access all over the country and across all s= ectors > of > > the society > > =E2=80=A2 Promote online freedom of expression and free flow of informa= tion > > =E2=80=A2 Take lead in Internet educational and capacity building initi= atives; > > =E2=80=A2 Establish an open forum for discussing Internet issues of imp= ortance > > to local community > > =E2=80=A2 Provide a platform for sharing information, knowledge and exp= ertise > > =E2=80=A2 Facilitate the link between local Internet stakeholders and t= he > > international > > > > D. Founding Members of the Chapter > > > > Please list complete contact information and affiliations for all perso= ns > > who will be working together to create the Chapter. Although there is a > > minimum membership required for a Charter we are only asking for at lea= st > > one other person besides yourself. > > > > --Included as Annex-1 > > > > E. List of Supporters > > > > Please list complete contact information for any organizations or group= s > > who will be supporting the Chapter. Be sure to indicate an individual o= r > > an individual's role for each supporter. > > > > -- Internet Masr NGO > > > > F. List of Requirements > > > > Some countries, governments, or regulatory bodies have rules or > > regulations that must be followed by Chapters of organization's like th= e > > Internet Society. Examples include documentation or fees. It is importa= nt > > for you to check and to indicate here any requirements you find. If the= re > > are none please indicate with whom you checked. > > > > -- Egyptian Law No. 84 > > > > G. Additional Information > > > > Please indicate here any additional information you believe would be > > helpful to our initial review. > > > > 1- Internet Masr is a civil society entity under establishment > pursuant > > to the Egyptian law No. 84 of year 2002. Internet Masr aims to serve as= a > > platform for fostering engagement in community effort to promote the > > Internet as a key tool for empowering the Egyptian society > > > > Internet Masr is the first entity in Egypt working in a truly > > multi-stakeholder fashion, embracing in its membership entities from > > government, business, civil society, education institutions, as well as > > individuals, all working together and participating on equal footing in > > all processes and activities. > > > > 2- Chapter draft by-laws and draft annual plan are enclosed as > > Appedix-1 and Appendix-2 respectively. > > > > > > H. Your Contact Information > > > > Please provide complete contact information for yourself, including > > affiliation, postal address, phone number(s), and email address. > > > > Mrs. Christine ARIDA > > Director, Telecom Services Planning > > National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority > > [..on file..] > > > > Mr. Hisham ABOULYAZED > > Senior Manager, WSIS Affairs > > Telecom Services Planning, NTRA > > [..on file..] > > > > Appedix-1: > > > > Name, Affiliation > > Amr Hashem, senior manger strategic planning etisalat misr > > Hosein Badran, chief technology officer ,MEA,distribushed systems > > architect, CISCO Systems > > Mo'taz Elewa, Research Assistant at Freiburger Materialforschungszentru= m > > Hossam Saleh,Chariman, Internet Masr NGO > > May Hussein, senior manger strategic planning etisalat misr > > Nezar Sami, Drector,IT sector, Nile University > > Hossam Fahmy, Student Representative of Egypt Section at IEEE > > Hisham Aboulyazed, Senior Manager, WSIS Affairs, NTRA > > Shahir Boshra, VP, Governenmental Affairs, LINKDOTNET > > Ali Anis, Director, Society Interaction, NTRA > > Mahmoud Soliman, President & CEO, SALEC Egypt > > Christine Arida, Director, Telecom Services Planning, NTRA/ Board Membe= r, > > Internet Masr NGO > > Tamer Gadalla, Managing director, TE Data > > Sherif El-Kassas, Associate Profissor, American University in Cairo > > Khalid Shaheen > > Nadia Hegazi, Senior Expert, MCIT > > Mohamed Reda, Enterprise Technical Marketing Manager, TE Data > > Shaarawy Abd Elbaky, Board Member, Internet Masr NGO -- Chairman, Ofok > > Systems NGO > > Salma Hesham, busines development specialist, GOOD NEWS 4 ME > > Mina Adly Younan, busines development specialist, GOOD NEWS 4 ME > > Walaa Sheta > > Mohamed El-Refaey, Wireless Enterprise Solutions Program Manager, Intel > > Corporation > > Mahmoud M. Shalaby > > Manal Ismail, Director, Technical Coordination, NTRA > > Moataz Shaarawy, CIO, Ofok Systems > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > --14dae934097711c64004bad1a5d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: reat that the ISOC Egypt Chapter is there to safeguard and channel this voi= ce!

Celebrations

Cintra Sooknan= an

ISOCTT

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:17 = AM, Narelle Clark <President at isoc-au.org.au> wrote:
This one we will welcome with open hearts.

My congratulations to all of our Egyptian sisters and brothers for their belief in the necessity of an open and ubiquitous Internet.

Through all the nation rebuilding they are doing right now it is an honour<= br> that they would find remaking the Chapter a priority.

For this I thank them and wish their efforts every success!

My very best wishes in this journey along with all your others.

best regards

Narelle

--

Narelle Clark
President
Internet Society of Australia
ph: 0412 297 043
int ph: +61 = 412 297 043
president at isoc-au.org.au www.isoc-au.org.au<= /a>

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Following the local rejuvenation effort over the last months, includin= g
> several member meetings and online discussions, the application below = for
> (re-)starting a Chapter of the Internet Society in Egypt has been
> received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and review. T= he
> period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 24 March<= br> > 2012.
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list with your feedback= .
>
> Thanks,
> Sabrina Wilmot
> Manager, Chapter Formation
> Internet Society
>
> -------------------------------
>
> Chapter Application
>
> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
>
> The Chapter name must include both "Internet Society" and &q= uot;Chapter". These
> may be translated into your local language.
>
> -- "Internet Society Egypt Chapter"
>
> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will to serve
>
> Geography is a common choice for a community of interest, for example,=
> within a country or city. However, any well-defined group of individua= ls
> is acceptable.
>
> -- Egyptian community nationwide.
>
> C. Purpose and Scope of Chapter
>
> It is important to indicate how you intend to serve your community of<= br> > interest and why a Chapter of the Internet Society is a good way to do= it.
>
> Mission: "Internet as a key tool for empowering the Egyptian soci= ety".
>
> In fulfilling its mission, "Internet Society Egypt Chapter" = shall:

> =E2=80=A2 Promote the utilization of the Internet in the d= evelopment of the
> Egyptian economy and knowledge=E2=80 based society
> =E2=80=A2 Promote Internet access all over the country and across all = sectors of
> the society
> =E2=80=A2 Promote online freedom of expression and free flow of inform= ation
> =E2=80=A2 Take lead in Internet educational and capacity building init= iatives;
> =E2=80=A2 Establish an open forum for discussing Internet issues of im= portance
> to local community
> =E2=80=A2 Provide a platform for sharing information, knowledge and ex= pertise
> =E2=80=A2 Facilitate the link between local Internet stakeholders and = the

> international
>
> D. Founding Members of the Chapter
>
> Please list complete contact information and affiliations for all pers= ons
> who will be working together to create the Chapter. Although there is = a
> minimum membership required for a Charter we are only asking for at le= ast
> one other person besides yourself.
>
> --Included as Annex-1
>
> E. List of Supporters
>
> Please list complete contact information for any organizations or grou= ps
> who will be supporting the Chapter. Be sure to indicate an individual = or
> an individual's role for each supporter.
>
> -- Internet Masr NGO
>
> F. List of Requirements
>
> Some countries, governments, or regulatory bodies have rules or
> regulations that must be followed by Chapters of organization's li= ke the
> Internet Society. Examples include documentation or fees. It is import= ant
> for you to check and to indicate here any requirements you find. If th= ere
> are none please indicate with whom you checked.
>
> -- Egyptian Law No. 84
>
> G. Additional Information
>
> Please indicate here any additional information you believe would be > helpful to our initial review.
>
> 1- =A0 =A0Internet Masr is a civil society entity under establishment = pursuant
> to the Egyptian law No. 84 of year 2002. Internet Masr aims to serve a= s a
> platform for fostering engagement in community effort to promote the > Internet as a key tool for empowering the Egyptian society
>
> Internet Masr is the first entity in Egypt working in a truly
> multi-stakeholder fashion, embracing in its membership entities from > government, business, civil society, education institutions, as well a= s
> individuals, all working together and participating on equal footing i= n
> all processes and activities.
>
> 2- =A0 =A0Chapter draft by-laws and draft annual plan are enclosed as<= br> > Appedix-1 and Appendix-2 respectively.
>
>
> H. Your Contact Information
>
> Please provide complete contact information for yourself, including > affiliation, postal address, phone number(s), and email address.
>
> Mrs. Christine ARIDA
> Director, Telecom Services Planning
> National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority
> [..on file..]
>
> Mr. Hisham ABOULYAZED
> Senior Manager, WSIS Affairs
> Telecom Services Planning, NTRA
> [..on file..]
>
> Appedix-1:
>
> Name, Affiliation
> Amr Hashem, senior manger strategic planning etisalat misr
> Hosein Badran, chief technology officer ,MEA,distribushed systems
> architect, CISCO Systems
> Mo'taz Elewa, Research Assistant at Freiburger Materialforschungsz= entrum
> Hossam Saleh,Chariman, Internet Masr NGO
> May Hussein, senior manger strategic planning etisalat misr
> Nezar Sami, Drector,IT sector, Nile University
> Hossam Fahmy, Student Representative of Egypt Section at IEEE
> Hisham Aboulyazed, Senior Manager, WSIS Affairs, NTRA
> Shahir Boshra, VP, Governenmental Affairs, LINKDOTNET
> Ali Anis, Director, Society Interaction, NTRA
> Mahmoud Soliman, President & CEO, SALEC Egypt
> Christine Arida, Director, Telecom Services Planning, NTRA/ Board Memb= er,
> Internet Masr NGO
> Tamer Gadalla, Managing director, TE Data
> Sherif El-Kassas, Associate Profissor, American University in Cairo > Khalid Shaheen
> Nadia Hegazi, Senior Expert, MCIT
> Mohamed Reda, Enterprise Technical Marketing Manager, TE Data
> Shaarawy Abd Elbaky, Board Member, Internet Masr NGO -- Chairman, Ofok=
> Systems NGO
> Salma Hesham, busines development specialist, GOOD NEWS 4 ME
> Mina Adly Younan, busines development specialist, GOOD NEWS 4 ME
> Walaa Sheta
> Mohamed El-Refaey, Wireless Enterprise Solutions Program Manager, Inte= l
> Corporation
> Mahmoud M. Shalaby
> Manal Ismail, Director, Technical Coordination, NTRA
> Moataz Shaarawy, CIO, Ofok Systems

_______________________= ________________________
Chapter-delegates mailing list
Chapter-delegates at elis= ts.isoc.org
https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates

--14dae934097711c64004bad1a5d4-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: a proper time table for that and the communications about it have HAD TO BE IN PLAIN LANGUAGE. Then in as many of the languages our people speak and read. *I* am the main reason the communications are delayed as I refused to agree with the language - it was too complex and too legalistic. It would keep lawyers happy but not our membership. (Please note; many, many lawyers are wonderful people, I just think that English has ceased to be the first language for many of them. And these are the ones that operate in English speaking jurisdictions!) I am also a volunteer with a family and a day job. The next phase of the communications has to happen soon, and I want to know how that best happens. What path should that follow? Webex? INET session? Special sessions? Teleconferences? IRC? I favour an INET session - after the strategic policy discussions as this is internal looking not earth shattering which the policy stuff is. Followed by separate sessions with chapter leaders and at regional meetings both online and in person where possible. > 3. ISOC is suggesting to the chapters to engage in negotiations on a > draft Letter of Affiliation, which was already seriously criticized by > many on and off the list. *Not good. * We need to understand the real issues here. There needs to be some form of agreement between the Society as an entity and its parts as to what it means to be affiliated. This is what that Letter is to do. We can evolve it, massage it, and even transform it, but in essence it needs to be a bottom line statement of what it means to be affiliated. If it doesn't then we can easily have groups claiming to be supporting our ideals for an open, affordable, accessible, ubiquitous Internet that REALLY AREN'T and NEVER will be. The criticisms of the first drafts have been taken on board. > 4. ISOC is running some projects, of which the chapters are not being > informed, that include following the ITU. We have learned that funding > for these projects does not come (only) from ISOC's funds. *Not good.* Feel free to fully inform me about this off list. I am happy to follow up. > 5. ISOC is hiring and allocating more people to follow the ITU > developments, who report back to chapters. *Good.* Yes, see point 1. WSIS is coming! > 6. The chapters continue to feel isolated from the decision-making at > ISOC, even when these decisions concern chapters and chapter members > (just one example - INET-2012). *Not good.* INET 2012 is a great looking conference and the staff are working their backsides off to make this as successful as possible. It is coming together more slowly than we'd hoped, and chapters are being engaged. There is a whole day for chapters. Yes, there could be more. Yes, it could be better. Yes, it will be fantastic. Again, too - please tell me of other issues. I got back last week from a two day Board meeting and it was, as usual, open to members. We also had meetings before and after with chapters - including a fantastic high level policy round table with people across the region (with regulators, policy makers, regional reps, the UN) which the chapter folk were PIVOTAL in making happen. These meetings reinforce to me how priveliged I am whenever I engage with other Chapter Leaders. I am so impressed with their talent, their contacts, their dedication, their achievements... and generally they do it in several human languages and run businesses and chapters besides! ISOC wants the input and collaboration of these people - the reason ISOC is such a success is because it manages to successfully use (indeed leverage!) the strengths of its membership: chapters, organisations AND individuals! > 7. ISOC is representing the technical community within the IGF/ITU > context. *Good*. > 8. ISOC does not represent civil society - for an independent observer > it is an organization, which is heavily influence by its organizational > members (companies), not by individual members or chapters. *Good and > not so good*. I'm not convinced I agree it is true that the organisations have a 'heavy' influence. From where I sit, looking across both the organisational and chapter forums, there are strengths and weaknesses in both. As far as representing civil society goes: I agree ISOC shouldn't and can't be the only voice in this area and we do have a responsibility to be strong in the technical arena, and to be a trusted, well informed, independent voice. > This point needs clarification - it's good that ISOC does not represent > civil society - there are many, who claim that, but ISOC is unique as > the home of the IETF. But it is not good that ISOC would not encourage > and empower its chapters to participate at the IGF/ITU meetings, as they > are indeed the ones, representing the civil society in their respected > countries. Yup, I think we agree. [Though I can't see where ISOC has discouraged people from participating in IGF meetings? My chapter is probably doing the opposite.] > ISOC's policies towards the chapter have not improved dramatically, as > the expectations were last year at this time. *Not good.* Please write to me off list on more specific terms - I see tireless Regional Bureau people and Chapter Liaison folk who are outstanding. And more. Yes, we can improve. Please help us do this. > ISOC need to start treating the chapters as equal partners, who are > contributing to ISOC more than they are getting from it. ISOC could > coordinate with chapters its messages, policies and positions, so that > it is not caught in a situation like this morning. And while we dealt > with this one nicely, with many people writing what they know of Paul, > in the coming months such disruption of normal communication may cause > much bigger issues, than just an exchange of emails within the chapters' > list. > The issues that we are going to deal with in the coming two years are > too serious to not pay attention to details like relations with a > substantial part of ISOC, the chapters. I'm hoping you will be pleasantly surprised by the aspects of the bylaws that are overdue for a change... and I trust you will see that chapter representation in that discussion has been solid! > I'd like to urge ISOC's leadership to not simply /address /the issue, > but require *an immediate - and positive! - change in the attitude from > ISOC HQ towards the chapters*. I hope you accept from this message (and it is coming at 8pm my time after a 12hr day in the office, from which I hope to head home from soon!) that this member of the ISOC leadership strongly has ALL the membership at heart. I am sure I can speak on behalf of the entire Board (and I'll have to apologise for doing it without asking) when I say that we, and the ISOC staff, as a whole value the ISOC membership from all its sources. WE WANT YOUR INPUT!!! WE CANNOT BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT PULLING TOGETHER!!! [sorry for shouting] I am *so* looking forward to INET so we can have this conversation together. > This is going to be good for the chapters, good for ISOC, and good for > the Internet. > We are facing a crucial time on the international arena, and it is wise > to stay focused on the main topic, rather than waste time on fixing > relationship, which should have been fixed long time ago. YES!!!! > It is still > not too late, but if ISOC continues to behave with the superiority > complex towards the chapters, it is not difficult to envision more issues. > If there is an argument between ISOC and the chapters, the latter have > nothing to lose, but ISOC's legitimacy and confidence might suffer at > time, when they are needed more than before. > > We are looking forward to seeing the next positive steps from ISOC, and > a response to all the good suggestions that came in the last weeks by > many people on this list of how to move forward. > > Best, > Veni Truly Veni - it is happening. None of us have a magic wand. Steps are slower when everyone joins the group. All the very best, and thank you Veni for keeping us honest! Narelle -- Narelle Clark member ISOC Board of Trustees (elected by chapters) President Internet Society of Australia president at isoc-au.org.au www.isoc-au.org.au From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: a critical eye on those who make money from the Internet. Like Organization Members. The Organizations are not exactly electing a puppet that will do their bidding. Likewise, Organizations elected Larry Lessig. From Harvard. Harvard is not an Organization member. Larry's raison d'=EAtre is the role = of society with respect to technology. Someone who is now working on reforming the American electorial system to root out commercial interests in our election process. These are not exactly people who will be imposing a "heavy influence" of companies on ISOC. > How about an even more extreme example: Chapters often elect people that happen to be employed by Organization Members. Does that mean the Trustee "represents" civil society or their employer? > For that matter, what am I? I was appointed by the IAB, am active in ISOC-DC, and am about to be (again) from an Organizational Member. Is my employer an evil commercial interest that wants to use the Internet for nefarious purposes, to wall the garden to extract monopoly rents, or to silence opposition to my products? The last time I looked, the product of Georgetown University is educated and fiercely independent women and men. Do I represent the IETF? The Chapters? My employer? I would offer the answer is everyone. > PLEASE read the election procedures and the bylaws. While each Trustee may be selected by one the three pillars of ISOC: individual users (Chapters), commercial (Organizations), and technology (IETF), they represent all aspects of the Internet. They positively do not and should not represent the community that elected them. We are not a membership organization. If we were a membershijp organziation, it would be appropriate to have Representatives who represent members. However, we are a cause based organization. Thus, a Trustee must represent the cause, and only the cause. > We certainly value the perspective the Trustee brings to the Board, and thus we hope to get lots of perspectives from using a diverse electoral base. That is why we have Trustees selected by the three pillars of ISOC. > -- > - Eric > > On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Veni Markovski wrote: > > Fred, and all - see comments below. > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Veni Markovski wrote: >> > 8. ISOC does not represent civil society - for an independent observer it is an organization, which is heavily influence by its organizational members (companies), not by individual members or chapters. Good and not so good. >> > This point needs clarification - it's good that ISOC does not represent civil society - there are many, who claim that, but ISOC is unique as the home of the IETF. But it is not good that ISOC would not encourage and empower its chapters to participate at the IGF/ITU meetings, as they are indeed the ones, representing the civil society in their respected countries. >> >> Veni: >> >> I do find myself wondering to what extent you think ISOC is driven by its organizational members. > > To a very large extent. > > >> >> At my company, I'm among the small set of people that are involved in and care about ISOC. > > That's understandable, but it's also something to worry about, if you think from a certain point of view. > >> >> Sally and others ask us questions and give us reports, but the organizational members don't sit down with ISOC to give it its priorities. >> >> What specific influence do you think the organizational members have on ISOC? > > The organizational members do not need to sit down with ISOC to give its priorities - as you point below, they do it through the Board, which consists of their representatives. Just as an example - when was the last time the chair of the Board was someone, elected by the chapters or the members? I don't envy this, I actually think this is what makes ISOC to be considered widely as representing the technical community. I remember many governments talking about ISOC in the context of the IETF, W3C, but I can't remember one talking about ISOC as representing netizens, or civil society. That is not a reason for any personal feelings, like envy. It's a reason for the Board to sit down and think, "Why is that?", "Is it true?", "What can we do to change it?". That, of course, if the Board believes that this is a correct vision of ISOC. And if it thinks it is not, then what steps would it take to make sure everyone else knows it? > So, to respond to your question more directly - I don't envy anything. I don't think the organizational members pay the right attention to ISOC, otherwise they would have seen that there's certain value in having ISOC represent the technical community, and the chapters represent the civil society, the users. But if they, as you say, have only a small set of people, who care and are interested in ISOC, then it is really sad. And that makes the chapters even more important for ISOC, it seems, because they are the ones, who care and are interested in ISOC in big numbers. > > best, > veni > >> >> BTW, I'm not asking about the board structure. Yes, I know you have long wanted the chapters to have as many seats on the board as the organizational members, but in this conversation, I'm not on that topic - and neither are you. Parallel to your question about the role and influence of the chapters, I'm asking about the organizational members themselves, the advisory council, etc. What, specifically, do you envy? >> >> Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > > --=20 Best, Veni =3D=3D Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-) --20cf3079bddad0eae604bbfbfe30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric,
Thank you - very timely comment. And in support of the suggestion= that there is nothing wrong having equal number of trustees, elected by ch= apters and org members. Surely there are 3 pillars, but one of them elects = half of the Trustees, which is not quite right, especially given the reason= WHY this was done 10 years ago: because org members paid the bills. Since = they are not paying the bills, their right to have half of the trustees ele= cted by them, should be changed.

On the general principle of who represents whom, your examples are vey = close to the European parliamentary system.

Veni

P.S. An= d on a side topic - is there a mailing list of the org members like the one= for chapters?

On Saturday, March 24, 2012, Eric Burger <eburger at standardstrack.com> wrote:
> Are t= here=A0any=A0examples of Trustees that happen to be elected by Organization= s=A0representing Organizations?
> Let's take an extreme example: Organizations elected Jonathan Zitt= rain. From Harvard. Harvard is not an Organization member. Jonathan often f= ocuses a critical eye on those who make money from the Internet. Like Organ= ization Members. The Organizations are not exactly electing a puppet that w= ill do their bidding. Likewise, Organizations elected Larry Lessig. From Ha= rvard. Harvard is not an Organization member. Larry's raison d'=EAt= re is the role of society with respect to technology. Someone who is now wo= rking on reforming the American electorial system to root out commercial in= terests in our election process. These are not exactly people who will be i= mposing a "heavy influence" of companies on ISOC.
> How about an even more extreme example: Chapters often elect people th= at happen to be employed by Organization Members. Does that mean the Truste= e "represents" civil society or their employer?
> For that = matter, what am I? I was appointed by the IAB, am active in ISOC-DC, and am= about to be (again) from an Organizational Member. Is my employer an evil = commercial interest that wants to use the Internet for nefarious purposes, = to wall the garden to extract monopoly rents, or to silence opposition to m= y products? The last time I looked, the product of Georgetown University is= educated and fiercely independent women and men. Do I represent=A0the IETF= ? The Chapters? My employer? I would offer the answer is everyone.
> PLEASE read the election procedures and the bylaws. While each Trustee= may be selected=A0by one the three pillars of ISOC: individual users (Chap= ters), commercial (Organizations), and technology (IETF), they represent=A0= all aspects=A0of the Internet. They positively do not=A0and should not repr= esent the community that elected them. We are not a membership organization= . If we were a membershijp organziation, it would be appropriate to have Re= presentatives who represent members. However, we are=A0a cause based organi= zation. Thus, a Trustee must represent the cause, and only the cause.
> We certainly value the perspective=A0the Trustee brings to the Board, = and thus we hope to get lots of perspectives from using a diverse electoral= base. That is why we have Trustees selected by=A0the three pillars of ISOC= .
> --
> - Eric
>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Veni M= arkovski wrote:
>
> Fred, and all - see comments below.
>=
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Fred Baker <fred at cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Veni Markovski wrote:
= >> > 8. ISOC does not represent civil society - for an independent= observer it is an organization, which is heavily influence by its organiza= tional members (companies), not by individual members or chapters. Good and= not so good.
>> > This point needs clarification - it's good that ISOC does= not represent civil society - there are many, who claim that, but ISOC is = unique as the home of the IETF. But it is not good that ISOC would not enco= urage and empower its chapters to participate at the IGF/ITU meetings, as t= hey are indeed the ones, representing the civil society in their respected = countries.
>>
>> Veni:
>>
>> I do find myself wonderi= ng to what extent you think ISOC is driven by its organizational members.>
> To a very large extent.
>
> =A0
>>
>> At my company, I'm among the small set of people that are invo= lved in and care about ISOC.
>
> That's understandable, but= it's also something to worry about, if you think from a certain point = of view.
> =A0
>>
>> Sally and others ask us questions and give= us reports, but the organizational members don't sit down with ISOC to= give it its priorities.
>>
>> What specific influence do= you think the organizational members have on ISOC?
>
> The organizational members do not need to sit down with ISOC t= o give its priorities - as you point below, they do it through the Board, w= hich consists of their representatives. Just as an example - when was the l= ast time the chair of the Board was someone, elected by the chapters or the= members? I don't envy this, I actually think this is what makes ISOC t= o be considered widely as representing the technical community. I remember = many governments talking about ISOC in the context of the IETF, W3C, but I = can't remember one talking about ISOC as representing netizens, or civi= l society. That is not a reason for any personal feelings, like envy. It= 9;s a reason for the Board to sit down and think, "Why is that?",= "Is it true?", "What can we do to change it?". That, o= f course, if the Board believes that this is a correct vision of ISOC. And = if it thinks it is not, then what steps would it take to make sure everyone= else knows it?
> So, to respond to your question more directly - I don't envy anyth= ing. I don't think the organizational members pay the right attention t= o ISOC, otherwise they would have seen that there's certain value in ha= ving ISOC represent the technical community, and the chapters represent the= civil society, the users. But if they, as you say, have only a small set o= f people, who care and are interested in ISOC, then it is really sad. And t= hat makes the chapters even more important for ISOC, it seems, because they= are the ones, who care and are interested in ISOC in big numbers.
>
> best,
> veni
>
>>
>> BTW, I'= m not asking about the board structure. Yes, I know you have long wanted th= e chapters to have as many seats on the board as the organizational members= , but in this conversation, I'm not on that topic - and neither are you= . Parallel to your question about the role and influence of the chapters, I= 'm asking about the organizational members themselves, the advisory cou= ncil, etc. What, specifically, do you envy?
>>
>> Fred
>
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--20cf3079bddad0eae604bbfbfe30-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: a critical eye on those who make money from the Internet. Like Organization Members. The Organizations are not exactly electing a puppet that will do their bidding. Likewise, Organizations elected Larry Lessig. From Harvard. Harvard is not an Organization member. Larry's raison d'=EAtre is the role = of society with respect to technology. Someone who is now working on reforming the American electorial system to root out commercial interests in our election process. These are not exactly people who will be imposing a "heavy influence" of companies on ISOC. > How about an even more extreme example: Chapters often elect people that happen to be employed by Organization Members. Does that mean the Trustee "represents" civil society or their employer? > For that matter, what am I? I was appointed by the IAB, am active in ISOC-DC, and am about to be (again) from an Organizational Member. Is my employer an evil commercial interest that wants to use the Internet for nefarious purposes, to wall the garden to extract monopoly rents, or to silence opposition to my products? The last time I looked, the product of Georgetown University is educated and fiercely independent women and men. Do I represent the IETF? The Chapters? My employer? I would offer the answer is everyone. > PLEASE read the election procedures and the bylaws. While each Trustee may be selected by one the three pillars of ISOC: individual users (Chapters), commercial (Organizations), and technology (IETF), they represent all aspects of the Internet. They positively do not and should not represent the community that elected them. We are not a membership organization. If we were a membershijp organziation, it would be appropriate to have Representatives who represent members. However, we are a cause based organization. Thus, a Trustee must represent the cause, and only the cause. > We certainly value the perspective the Trustee brings to the Board, and thus we hope to get lots of perspectives from using a diverse electoral base. That is why we have Trustees selected by the three pillars of ISOC. > -- > - Eric > > On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Veni Markovski wrote: > > Fred, and all - see comments below. > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> >> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Veni Markovski wrote: >> > 8. ISOC does not represent civil society - for an independent observer it is an organization, which is heavily influence by its organizational members (companies), not by individual members or chapters. Good and not so good. >> > This point needs clarification - it's good that ISOC does not represent civil society - there are many, who claim that, but ISOC is unique as the home of the IETF. But it is not good that ISOC would not encourage and empower its chapters to participate at the IGF/ITU meetings, as they are indeed the ones, representing the civil society in their respected countries. >> >> Veni: >> >> I do find myself wondering to what extent you think ISOC is driven by its organizational members. > > To a very large extent. > > >> >> At my company, I'm among the small set of people that are involved in and care about ISOC. > > That's understandable, but it's also something to worry about, if you think from a certain point of view. > >> >> Sally and others ask us questions and give us reports, but the organizational members don't sit down with ISOC to give it its priorities. >> >> What specific influence do you think the organizational members have on ISOC? > > The organizational members do not need to sit down with ISOC to give its priorities - as you point below, they do it through the Board, which consists of their representatives. Just as an example - when was the last time the chair of the Board was someone, elected by the chapters or the members? I don't envy this, I actually think this is what makes ISOC to be considered widely as representing the technical community. I remember many governments talking about ISOC in the context of the IETF, W3C, but I can't remember one talking about ISOC as representing netizens, or civil society. That is not a reason for any personal feelings, like envy. It's a reason for the Board to sit down and think, "Why is that?", "Is it true?", "What can we do to change it?". That, of course, if the Board believes that this is a correct vision of ISOC. And if it thinks it is not, then what steps would it take to make sure everyone else knows it? > So, to respond to your question more directly - I don't envy anything. I don't think the organizational members pay the right attention to ISOC, otherwise they would have seen that there's certain value in having ISOC represent the technical community, and the chapters represent the civil society, the users. But if they, as you say, have only a small set of people, who care and are interested in ISOC, then it is really sad. And that makes the chapters even more important for ISOC, it seems, because they are the ones, who care and are interested in ISOC in big numbers. > > best, > veni > >> >> BTW, I'm not asking about the board structure. Yes, I know you have long wanted the chapters to have as many seats on the board as the organizational members, but in this conversation, I'm not on that topic - and neither are you. Parallel to your question about the role and influence of the chapters, I'm asking about the organizational members themselves, the advisory council, etc. What, specifically, do you envy? >> >> Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > > --=20 Best, Veni =3D=3D Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-) --20cf3079bdda5d85e304bbfc7cda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And, also important: the conversation is not about you, Larry or any of the= past, current or future trustees. It is not an "ad hominem" atta= ck, and I'm surprised you are making parallels to individuals, serving = on the board. The conversation is about the principles of governing a big n= on-profit, which can make a big difference in the Internet world. The world= today is different from the world of the past, and therefore Isoc should c= hange to reflect the different environment and the new tasks confronting it= . But let's try not to engage in discussions on individuals and trustee= s. The main topic, the important one, is the policy and the structure.

On Saturday, March 24, 2012, Eric Burger <eburger at standardstrack.com> wrote:
> Are t= here=A0any=A0examples of Trustees that happen to be elected by Organization= s=A0representing Organizations?
> Let's take an extreme example: Organizations elected Jonathan Zitt= rain. From Harvard. Harvard is not an Organization member. Jonathan often f= ocuses a critical eye on those who make money from the Internet. Like Organ= ization Members. The Organizations are not exactly electing a puppet that w= ill do their bidding. Likewise, Organizations elected Larry Lessig. From Ha= rvard. Harvard is not an Organization member. Larry's raison d'=EAt= re is the role of society with respect to technology. Someone who is now wo= rking on reforming the American electorial system to root out commercial in= terests in our election process. These are not exactly people who will be i= mposing a "heavy influence" of companies on ISOC.
> How about an even more extreme example: Chapters often elect people th= at happen to be employed by Organization Members. Does that mean the Truste= e "represents" civil society or their employer?
> For that = matter, what am I? I was appointed by the IAB, am active in ISOC-DC, and am= about to be (again) from an Organizational Member. Is my employer an evil = commercial interest that wants to use the Internet for nefarious purposes, = to wall the garden to extract monopoly rents, or to silence opposition to m= y products? The last time I looked, the product of Georgetown University is= educated and fiercely independent women and men. Do I represent=A0the IETF= ? The Chapters? My employer? I would offer the answer is everyone.
> PLEASE read the election procedures and the bylaws. While each Trustee= may be selected=A0by one the three pillars of ISOC: individual users (Chap= ters), commercial (Organizations), and technology (IETF), they represent=A0= all aspects=A0of the Internet. They positively do not=A0and should not repr= esent the community that elected them. We are not a membership organization= . If we were a membershijp organziation, it would be appropriate to have Re= presentatives who represent members. However, we are=A0a cause based organi= zation. Thus, a Trustee must represent the cause, and only the cause.
> We certainly value the perspective=A0the Trustee brings to the Board, = and thus we hope to get lots of perspectives from using a diverse electoral= base. That is why we have Trustees selected by=A0the three pillars of ISOC= .
> --
> - Eric
>
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Veni M= arkovski wrote:
>
> Fred, and all - see comments below.
>=
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Fred Baker <fred at cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:23 PM, Veni Markovski wrote:
= >> > 8. ISOC does not represent civil society - for an independent= observer it is an organization, which is heavily influence by its organiza= tional members (companies), not by individual members or chapters. Good and= not so good.
>> > This point needs clarification - it's good that ISOC does= not represent civil society - there are many, who claim that, but ISOC is = unique as the home of the IETF. But it is not good that ISOC would not enco= urage and empower its chapters to participate at the IGF/ITU meetings, as t= hey are indeed the ones, representing the civil society in their respected = countries.
>>
>> Veni:
>>
>> I do find myself wonderi= ng to what extent you think ISOC is driven by its organizational members.>
> To a very large extent.
>
> =A0
>>
>> At my company, I'm among the small set of people that are invo= lved in and care about ISOC.
>
> That's understandable, but= it's also something to worry about, if you think from a certain point = of view.
> =A0
>>
>> Sally and others ask us questions and give= us reports, but the organizational members don't sit down with ISOC to= give it its priorities.
>>
>> What specific influence do= you think the organizational members have on ISOC?
>
> The organizational members do not need to sit down with ISOC t= o give its priorities - as you point below, they do it through the Board, w= hich consists of their representatives. Just as an example - when was the l= ast time the chair of the Board was someone, elected by the chapters or the= members? I don't envy this, I actually think this is what makes ISOC t= o be considered widely as representing the technical community. I remember = many governments talking about ISOC in the context of the IETF, W3C, but I = can't remember one talking about ISOC as representing netizens, or civi= l society. That is not a reason for any personal feelings, like envy. It= 9;s a reason for the Board to sit down and think, "Why is that?",= "Is it true?", "What can we do to change it?". That, o= f course, if the Board believes that this is a correct vision of ISOC. And = if it thinks it is not, then what steps would it take to make sure everyone= else knows it?
> So, to respond to your question more directly - I don't envy anyth= ing. I don't think the organizational members pay the right attention t= o ISOC, otherwise they would have seen that there's certain value in ha= ving ISOC represent the technical community, and the chapters represent the= civil society, the users. But if they, as you say, have only a small set o= f people, who care and are interested in ISOC, then it is really sad. And t= hat makes the chapters even more important for ISOC, it seems, because they= are the ones, who care and are interested in ISOC in big numbers.
>
> best,
> veni
>
>>
>> BTW, I'= m not asking about the board structure. Yes, I know you have long wanted th= e chapters to have as many seats on the board as the organizational members= , but in this conversation, I'm not on that topic - and neither are you= . Parallel to your question about the role and influence of the chapters, I= 'm asking about the organizational members themselves, the advisory cou= ncil, etc. What, specifically, do you envy?
>>
>> Fred
>
> _________________________________= ______________
> Chapter-delegates mailing list
> Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates
>
= >

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Best,
Veni
=3D=3D Sent from my phone, so any spelli= ng mistakes are caused by the touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excus= e, isn't it;-)

--20cf3079bdda5d85e304bbfc7cda-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: The Internet of today offers access to content and information through conn= ectivity to web pages and to multiple terminals (e.g., mobiles, TV). The ne= xt evolution will make it possible to access information related to our phy= sical environment, through a generalised connectivity of everyday objects. = A car may be able to report the status of its various subsystems using comm= unicating embedded sensors for remote diagnosis and maintenance; home infor= mation about the status of the doors, shutters, and content of the fridge m= ay be delivered to distant smart phones; personal devices may deliver to a = central location the latest status of healthcare information of remotely ca= red patients; environmental data may be collected and processed globally fo= r real time decision making. Access to information relating to our surrounding environment is made possi= ble through communicating objects able to interact with that environment an= d react to events. This makes possible new classes of applications such as = smart homes with automated systems to monitor many aspects of daily living,= smart grids and intelligent energy management, smart mobility with better = control of traffic, or smart logistics with the integrated control of all p= rocesses in the entire distribution chain. There are endless examples of th= is evolution of networked devices, also known as the Internet of Things (Io= T). The Internet of Things holds the promise of significant progress in address= ing global and societal challenges and to improve daily life. It is also a = highly promising economic sector for sustainability, growth, innovation and= employment. But it is likely to have a profound impact on society, in area= s like privacy, security, ethics, and liability. The policy challenge is to= assess the right trade-off between the potential economic and societal ben= efits and the control that we want to retain over an environment where mach= ines will gather, exchange, process and store information automatically. Th= e effects on our private and public space require that people and their gov= ernments debate the appropriate governance and management of the Internet o= f Things in the future. To this end the European Commission envisions a rec= ommendation addressing the main issues, of which a number are outlined in t= he questions of the consultation. How to submit your contribution top Address of the questionnaire: http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispa= tch?form=3DIoTGovernance The consultation is being launched only in electronic form via the interact= ive policy-making tool.You are strongly advised to prepare your contributio= n in advance before filling-in the questionnaire online. We recommend you d= ownload the PDF file of the questionnaire ( pdf 79KB) , to allow you to dra= ft your answers to the open text questions carefully. After preparing all y= our answers, please fill out the questionnaire. Questions are either compulsory or optional. If any of the compulsory field= s have not been filled in, the system will not allow you to submit the ques= tionnaire but will redirect you to the incomplete answer and give you an op= portunity to correct it. An error message will appear in a purple/red colou= r under the question in which a problem occurred. If you leave the questionnaire for 90 minutes without activity, your countr= ibution will not be saved due to a time-out. When you successfully submit the questionnaire, a confirmation message will= appear on your screen and you can print your answers. Contributions may be submitted in any official EU language. Contributions received in reply to the consultation will be handled exclusi= vely by the Commission services in full confidence; the summary of the cons= ultation's results will be published on the Commission's website in an anon= ymous way. If you are replying on behalf of an organisation, please state your name, a= ddress and official title in your reply. Any reply on behalf of an organisa= tion which does not state the interests which it represents will be regarde= d as an individual reply and not a collective reply. It is important to read the specific privacy statement (hereunder) to this = consultation for information on how your personal data and contribution wil= l be dealt with. Some supporting documents and links top * Address of the questionnaire: http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms= /dispatch?form=3DIoTGovernance * Press release http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference= =3DIP/12/360&language=3DEN * Legal notice on personal data protection * Specify privacy statement ( pdf 48KB) --=_8463c5fe-2f23-407c-b139-5b63090f172a Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; colo= r: #000000'>
Dear colleagues
There is a consultation open with the EC on the governance of = the Internet of Things. Are any of you = planning a response to this consultation ? If so, we could coordinate our e= fforts.
Thank you and best re= gards

Elena Zvarici <= br>Communication manager
Internet Society Romania
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www.twitter.com/isocrohttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Internet-Society-Rom= ania/
Consider the environment: don't print this email= unless necessary
http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/digital-agenda/acti= ons/iot-consultation/index_en.htm
The Internet is gearing up for the next technological revolu= tion: communication with and among objects.
How woul= d you envisage the "governance" of such an "Internet of Things" (IoT)?
Policy field(s) top
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Informati= on Society
Who can reply to this consultation? top
All citizens, organisations and public= authorities are welcome to contribute to this consultation.
Period of = consultation top<= /a>
F= rom April 12th to July 10th 2012
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The Internet of t= oday offers access to content and information through connectivity to web p= ages and to multiple terminals (e.g., mobiles, TV). The next evolution will= make it possible to access information related to our physical environment= , through a generalised connectivity of everyday objects. A car may be able= to report the status of its various subsystems using communicating embedde= d sensors for remote diagnosis and maintenance; home information about the = status of the doors, shutters, and content of the fridge may be delivered t= o distant smart phones; personal devices may deliver to a central location = the latest status of healthcare information of remotely cared patients; env= ironmental data may be collected and processed globally for real time decis= ion making.
Access to information relating to our surrounding environment is made= possible through communicating objects able to interact with that environm= ent and react to events. This makes possible new classes of applications su= ch as smart homes with automated systems to monitor many aspects of daily l= iving, smart grids and intelligent energy management, smart mobility with b= etter control of traffic, or smart logistics with the integrated control of= all processes in the entire distribution chain. There are endless examples= of this evolution of networked devices, also known as the Internet of Thin= gs (IoT).
The Internet of Things holds the promise of significant progress in add= ressing global and societal challenges and to improve daily life. It is als= o a highly promising economic sector for sustainability, growth, innovation= and employment. But it is likely to have a profound impact on society, in = areas like privacy, security, ethics, and liability. The policy challenge i= s to assess the right trade-off between the potential economic and societal= benefits and the control that we want to retain over an environment where = machines will gather, exchange, process and store information automatically= . The effects on our private and public space require that people and their= governments debate the appropriate governance and management of the Intern= et of Things in the future. To this end the European Commission envisions a= recommendation addressing the main issues, of which a number are outlined = in the questions of the consultation.
How to submit your contribution&n= bsp;top
Address of the = questionnaire: http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms= /dispatch?form=3DIoTGovernance
The consultation is bei= ng launched only in electronic formvia the interactive policy-making tool.You are strongly advised to = prepare your contribution in advance before filling-in the questionnaire on= line. We recommend youdown= load the PDF file of the questionnaire ( pdf 79KB) , to allow you to draft yo= ur answers to the open text questions carefully. After preparing all your a= nswers, please fill out the questionnaire.
Questions are either compulsory or opt= ional. If any of the compulsory fields have not been filled in, the system = will not allow you to submit the questionnaire but will redirect you to the= incomplete answer and give you an opportunity to correct it. An error mess= age will appear in a purple/red colour under the question in which a proble= m occurred.
If you leave the questionnaire for 90 minutes without activity, your = countribution will not be saved due to a time-out.
When you successfully submit t= he questionnaire, a confirmation message will appear on your screen and you= can print your answers.
Contributions may be submitted in any official EU langua= ge.
Co= ntributions received in reply to the consultation will be handled exclusive= ly by the Commission services in full confidence; the summary of the consul= tation's results will be published on the Commission's website in an anonym= ous way.
It is important to read t= he specific privacy statement (hereunder) to this consultation for informat= ion on how your personal data and contribution will be dealt with.
S= ome supporting documents and links top
Address of the questionnaire: http://e= c.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?form=3DIoTGovernance
Press release http://europa.eu= /rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=3DIP/12/360&language=3DEN
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--=_8463c5fe-2f23-407c-b139-5b63090f172a-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) tweeter @clo3 http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr On May 5, 2012 8:05 AM, "Fred Baker" wrote: > > On May 4, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Markus Kummer wrote: > > Quote: The Internet Society (ISOC) is concerned about legislation > currently under consideration in the United States. The proposed Cyber > Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) was passed last week by the > House of Representatives and is now before the Senate. The bill aims to > provide more effective channels of communication across different federal > agencies and private entities in relation to online threats. While the > Internet Society recognizes the need for national security, it is concerned > about the potentially broad scope of CISPA and the consequent impact this > legislation might have on users' rights, especially in relation to online > privacy. We are also concerned that the draft bill might bypass existing > legal and private contractual obligations to protect Internet users' > privacy, and lacks judicial oversight. Furthermore, placing burdensome > security roles on intermediaries may also, as an unintended consequence, > have a negative impact on innovation, service d > elivery, and, ultimately, future investment and economic growth. > > > > The Internet Society expresses its hope that the U.S. Senate will revise > the current text and work to address privacy considerations and protect > citizens' rights and civil liberties in any future cybersecurity > legislation. Unquote. > > Speaking for myself (an individual member unaffiliated with a chapter), I > think the wording is good. I'll support Olivier Crepin-Leblond's comments > on the international effect; assuming we consider the US to be a bastion of > freedom and righteousness (I'm told that some might dispute that), any > legislation that limits that is an invitation for other countries to do so > as well, which can have "interesting" ramifications. > > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > --047d7b10cbcbbed9f804bf3f5c1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

++++1 to the views Fred articulated (personal view as the ISOC-AU=A0 DIRECTORS have not convened or polled our members on this issue)

From my Android Tablet...

Cheryl=A0 Langdon-Orr (CLO)
tweeter @clo3
http://about.me/cheryl.Langdo= nOrr

On May 5, 2012 8:05 AM, "Fred Baker" &= lt;fred at cisco.com> wrote:

On May 4, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Markus Kummer wrote:
> Quote: The Internet Society (ISOC) is concerned about legislation curr= ently under consideration in the United States. =A0The proposed Cyber Intel= ligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) was passed last week by the Hous= e of Representatives and is now before the Senate. The bill aims to provide= more effective channels of communication across different federal agencies= and private entities in relation to online threats. While the Internet Soc= iety recognizes the need for national security, it is concerned about the p= otentially broad scope of CISPA and the consequent impact this legislation = might have on users' rights, especially in relation to online privacy. = We are also concerned that the draft bill might bypass existing legal and p= rivate contractual obligations to protect Internet users' privacy, and = lacks judicial oversight. Furthermore, placing burdensome security roles on= intermediaries may also, as an unintended consequence, have a negative imp= act on innovation, service d
=A0elivery, and, ultimately, future investment and economic growth.
>
> The Internet Society expresses its hope that the U.S. Senate will revi= se the current text and work to address privacy considerations and protect = citizens' rights and civil liberties in any future cybersecurity legisl= ation. Unquote.

Speaking for myself (an individual member unaffiliated with a chapter), I t= hink the wording is good. I'll support Olivier Crepin-Leblond's com= ments on the international effect; assuming we consider the US to be a bast= ion of freedom and righteousness (I'm told that some might dispute that= ), any legislation that limits that is an invitation for other countries to= do so as well, which can have "interesting" ramifications.

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--047d7b10cbcbbed9f804bf3f5c1e-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: involvement in the Chapter Formation are particularly heartening ... Naveed is a former ISOC IGF Ambassador (Sharm el Sheikh, 2009) and an Alumnus of the ISOC NGL Programme - he was also in attendance as the recent Global INET on the NGL track. Madeeha is also a former ISOC IGF Ambassador (Nairobi, 2011) and an Alumnus of the ISOC NGL Programme - she also attended the Global INET via the NGL programme. More than anything else, this sends a really positive signal regarding the ongoing success of the NGL Programme in igniting new Chapter formation as well as rejuvenating dormant Chapters. Rgds, Tracy Hackshaw Vice-Chair Internet Society Trinidad & Tobago Chapter On Jun 6, 2012 7:59 AM, "Sabrina Wilmot" wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > The following application for a Chapter in Islamabad (Pakistan) has been > received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and review. > Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially bee= n > recognised by the Internet Society. > If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing to > establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome. > The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 21 June > 2012. > > Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list. > > Thanks, > Sabrina Wilmot > Manager, Chapter Formation > Internet Society > > ------------------------------- > Chapter Application > > A. Proposed name of the Chapter > Internet Society Pakistan Islamabad Chapter > > B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve > The chapter will serve the community belonging to Islamabad and > surrounding area(s); non-exclusive basis". > > C. Purpose and scope of Chapter > The purpose of ISOC Pakistan Islamabad Chapter will be to serve the > interest of local community while focusing on the issues of local relevan= ce > related with Internet education, policy, standards and security. > > The following would be the scope of the chapter. > =95 Promoting Internet access among community of interest > (geographical area). > =95 Promoting education, awareness and capacity building for Intern= et > issues including the next generation of technologies and protocols. > =95 Building partnership with multi-stakeholders including but not > limited to government, private sector and civil society. > =95 Encouraging local content and services development. > =95 Identifying opportunities to utilize Internet for social and > economical development. > =95 Running as a Not-for-Profit organization / society with open, > transparent and competitive basis under an aim to serve the community. > > D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter > > The following tables summarize key priorities of the chapter for the firs= t > year. > - Workshop on Internet Security > - Workshop on Internet for Development > - Internet Stakeholders Meeting > - Workshop on Child Online Protection > - Community Survey on Internet Services > - Annual Chapter Meeting > > E. Founding members of the Chapter > > Mr. Ammar Jafri, Pakistan Information Security Association > Mr. Khawaja Mohammad Ali, Zarai Taraqiati Bank Ltd > Mr. Ameen Sharif, Fauji Fertilizer Company > Dr. Amir Qayyum, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University > Ms. Madeeha Rehman, Nexus Telecom > Mr. Humayun Zafar, International Institute of Business Analysis > Mr. Syed Faran Ahmed, National University of Science & Technology > Mr. Naveed Ul Haq, Pakistan Telecommunication Authority > Mr. Amir Atta, Pro Pakistani > Mr. Muhammad Yousaf, Riphah International University > Mr. Imran Tanweer, Earth Factor > Mr. Hassan Ijaz, National Institute of Management and Information Securi= ty > Mr. Sohaib Saleem, National Institute of Management and Information > Security > Mr. Haroon Ur Rasheed, Fauji Fertilizer Company > Mr. Talha Habib, Pakistan Information Security Association > Mr. Muhammad Umair, Fauji Fertilizer Company > Mr. Noman, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University > Mr. Saud Khan, Riphah International University > Dr. Adeel Baig, National University of Science & Technology > Ms. Saira Gilani, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University > Muhammad Aadil Rehman, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University > Ms. Sadaf Yasmin, Center of Research in Networks and Telecom > Ms. Shahneela Naz Center of Research in Networks and Telecom > Mr. Imran Chaudhry, National University of Science & Technology > Ms. Madeeha Azam, OPAL Studios > > F. List of supporters and partner organizations > > Name of the Organization, Stakeholder Group, Contact Details, Website > Muhammad Ali Jinnah University, Academia , Dr. Amir Qayyum, > http://www.jinnah.edu.pk/ > Center of Research in Networks and Telecom, Technical / Research, Dr. Ami= r > Qayyum, http://corenet.org.pk/ > Riphah International University , Academia, Mr. Muhammad Yousaf, > http://www.riphah.edu.pk/ > Pro Pakistani, Civil Society / Blog, Mr. Amir Atta, > http://propakistani.pk/ > Center of Information Technology, Academia, Mr. Ammar Hussain Jafri, > http://www.cit.edu.pk/ > NUST School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences, Academia, Dr= . > Arshad Ali, http://seecs.nust.edu.pk/ > Pakistan Information Society Association, Civil Society / Association, Mr= . > Talha Habib, http://pisa.org.pk/ > > G. Membership > > Our efforts will be to outreach various segments of the community > especially during our first year to establishment to create necessary > awareness about Internet Society and invite members to join the Chapter. = We > would be seeking necessary assistance from the available chapter material= s > from ISOC Global. Moreover, our primary purpose will be to engage youth i= n > the process and provide them strength and confidence towards chapter goal= s > and activities. We are quite fortunate to already capture attention of > more than 75 volunteers during our chapter establishment efforts over the > past 10 months. We would carry out a monthly chapter meeting on regular > basis as we look forward to invite members from multi-stakeholders groups= . > > Our proposed Membership details are as follows: > > Individual Members =96 Free (non-voting member) > Student Members =96 PKR 100 per year (Voting Member) > Professional Members =96 PKR 1000 per year (Voting Member) > Organizational Members =96 PKR 5000 per year (Voting Member) > > Furthermore, following facilities / promotion / advantages were listed > against each membership type of the chapter: > > Benefits (Student - Professional - Organizational) > Subscription to mailing list (Yes - Yes - Yes) > Informal networking / educational meetings / workshops (Yes - Yes - Yes= ) > Concessions for events / conferences (Yes - Yes - Yes) > Provide inputs to government and industry submissions (Yes - Yes - Yes) > Use ISOC Islamabad Logo on their website (./. - Yes - Yes) > Promote their events / publications to ISOC Islamabad Members (./. - Yes > - Yes) > Information / Links on ISOC Islamabad website (./. - ./. - Yes) > Staff Tutorial on Internet policy / technical developments (./. - ./. - > Yes) > Concession on Membership for Employees (./. - ./. - Yes) > > H. List of requirements > > There are no mandatory requirements of registration from the local > Authorities. However, the chapter community has decided to get the > necessary registration performed with Islamabad Capital Territory > Administration. > > I. Additional information > > ISOC Pakistan Islamabad Chapter (In-formation) is a result of rejuvenatio= n > of ISOC Pakistan Chapter. The rejuvenation process which had been carried > out as a result of community members participation has resulted in > establishing city/provincial based chapters in Pakistan. The community at > Islamabad has carried out a number of meetings / discussions over the pas= t > 10 months as a result of which the community has been able to finalize th= e > initial chapter applications. We look forward to play our contributions t= o > overall core principles and goals of Internet Society as a vibrant, open > and inclusive chapter. > > J. Your contact information > > Name : Naveed Ul Haq > Affiliations: Pakistan Telecommunication Authority, Assistant Director > (ICT) > [..contact details on file..] > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > --20cf307d0374fea34f04c1cfc156 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From a personal point of view, Mr. Naveed Ul Haq's and Ms. Madeeha R= ehman's involvement in the Chapter Formation are particularly heartenin= g ...

Naveed is a former ISOC IGF Ambassador (Sharm el Sheikh, 2009) and an Al= umnus of the ISOC NGL Programme - he was also in attendance as the recent G= lobal INET on the NGL track.

Madeeha is also a former ISOC IGF Ambassador (Nairobi, 2011) and an Alum= nus of the ISOC NGL Programme - she also attended the Global INET via the N= GL programme.

More than anything else, this sends a really positive signal regarding t= he ongoing success of the NGL Programme in igniting new Chapter formation a= s well as rejuvenating dormant Chapters.

Rgds,

Tracy Hackshaw
Vice-Chair
Internet Society Trinidad & Tobago Chapter

On Jun 6, 2012 7:59 AM, "Sabrina Wilmot&quo= t; <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

The following application for a Chapter in Islamabad (Pakistan) has been re= ceived. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.
Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially been = recognised by the Internet Society.
If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing to est= ablish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 21 June 20= 12.

Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.

Thanks,
Sabrina Wilmot
Manager, Chapter Formation
Internet Society

-------------------------------
Chapter Application

A. Proposed name of the Chapter
Internet Society Pakistan Islamabad Chapter

B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
The chapter will serve the community belonging to Islamabad and surrounding= area(s); non-exclusive basis".

C. Purpose and scope of Chapter
The purpose of ISOC Pakistan Islamabad Chapter will be to serve the interes= t of local community while focusing on the issues of local relevance relate= d with Internet education, policy, standards and security.

The following would be the scope of the chapter.
=E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting Internet access among community of= interest (geographical area).
=E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting education, awareness and capacity = building for Internet issues including the next generation of technologies = and protocols.
=E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Building partnership with multi-stakeholders= including but not limited to government, =C2=A0 private sector and civil s= ociety.
=E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Encouraging local content and services devel= opment.
=E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifying opportunities to utilize Interne= t for social and economical development.
=E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Running as a Not-for-Profit organization / s= ociety with open, transparent and competitive basis under an aim to serve t= he community.

D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter

The following tables summarize key priorities of the chapter for the first = year.
- Workshop on Internet Security
- Workshop on Internet for Development
- Internet Stakeholders Meeting
- Workshop on Child Online Protection
- Community Survey on Internet Services
- Annual Chapter Meeting

E. Founding members of the Chapter

Mr. Ammar Jafri, Pakistan Information Security Association
Mr. =C2=A0Khawaja Mohammad Ali, Zarai Taraqiati Bank Ltd
Mr. Ameen Sharif, Fauji Fertilizer Company
Dr. Amir Qayyum, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University
Ms. Madeeha Rehman, Nexus Telecom
Mr. Humayun Zafar, International Institute of Business Analysis
Mr. Syed Faran Ahmed, National University of Science & Technology
Mr. Naveed Ul Haq, Pakistan Telecommunication Authority
Mr. Amir Atta, Pro Pakistani
Mr. Muhammad Yousaf, Riphah International University
Mr. Imran Tanweer, Earth Factor
Mr. =C2=A0Hassan Ijaz, National Institute of Management and Information Sec= urity
Mr. Sohaib Saleem, National Institute of Management and Information Securit= y
Mr. Haroon Ur Rasheed, Fauji Fertilizer Company
Mr. Talha Habib, Pakistan Information Security Association
Mr. Muhammad Umair, Fauji Fertilizer Company
Mr. Noman, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University
Mr. Saud Khan, Riphah International University
Dr. Adeel Baig, National University of Science & Technology
Ms. Saira Gilani, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University
Muhammad Aadil Rehman, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University
Ms. Sadaf Yasmin, Center of Research in Networks and Telecom
Ms. Shahneela Naz Center of Research in Networks and Telecom
Mr. Imran Chaudhry, National University of Science & Technology
Ms. Madeeha Azam, OPAL Studios

F. List of supporters and partner organizations

Name of the Organization, Stakeholder Group, Contact Details, Website
Muhammad Ali Jinnah University, Academia , Dr. Amir Qayyum, http://www.jinnah.edu.pk/
Center of Research in Networks and Telecom, Technical / Research, Dr. Amir = Qayyum, http://corenet= .org.pk/
Riphah International University , Academia, Mr. Muhammad Yousaf, http://www.riphah.edu.pk/=
Pro Pakistani, Civil Society / Blog, Mr. Amir Atta, http://propakistani.pk/
Center of Information Technology, Academia, Mr. Ammar Hussain Jafri, http://www.cit.edu.pk/ NUST School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences, Academia, Dr. = Arshad Ali, http://= seecs.nust.edu.pk/
Pakistan Information Society Association, Civil Society / Association, Mr. = Talha Habib, http://pisa.= org.pk/

G. Membership

Our efforts will be to outreach various segments of the community especiall= y during our first year to establishment to create necessary awareness abou= t Internet Society and invite members to join the Chapter. We would be seek= ing necessary assistance from the available chapter materials from ISOC Glo= bal. Moreover, our primary purpose will be to engage youth in the process a= nd provide them strength and confidence towards chapter goals and activitie= s. =C2=A0We are quite fortunate to already capture attention of more than 7= 5 volunteers during our chapter establishment efforts over the past 10 mont= hs. We would carry out a monthly chapter meeting on regular basis as we loo= k forward to invite members from multi-stakeholders groups.

Our proposed Membership details are as follows:

Individual Members =E2=80=93 Free (non-voting member)
Student Members =E2=80=93 PKR 100 per year (Voting Member)
Professional Members =E2=80=93 PKR 1000 per year (Voting Member)
Organizational Members =E2=80=93 PKR 5000 per year (Voting Member)

Furthermore, following facilities / promotion / advantages were listed agai= nst each membership type of the chapter:

Benefits =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Student - Professional - Organizational)
Subscription to mailing list =C2=A0(Yes - Yes - Yes)
Informal networking / educational meetings / workshops =C2=A0 (Yes - Yes - = Yes)
Concessions for events / conferences =C2=A0 (Yes - Yes - Yes)
Provide inputs to government and industry submissions =C2=A0 (Yes - Yes - Y= es)
Use ISOC Islamabad Logo on their website =C2=A0 (./. - Yes - Yes)
Promote their events / publications to ISOC Islamabad Members =C2=A0(./. - = Yes - Yes)
Information / Links on ISOC Islamabad website =C2=A0(./. - ./. - Yes)
Staff Tutorial on Internet policy / technical developments =C2=A0 (./. - ./= . - Yes)
Concession on Membership for Employees =C2=A0 (./. - ./. - Yes)

H. List of requirements

There are no mandatory requirements of registration from the local Authorit= ies. However, the chapter community has decided to get the necessary regist= ration performed with Islamabad Capital Territory Administration.

I. Additional information

ISOC Pakistan Islamabad Chapter (In-formation) is a result of rejuvenation = of ISOC Pakistan Chapter. The rejuvenation process which had been carried o= ut as a result of community members participation has resulted in establish= ing city/provincial based chapters in Pakistan. The community at Islamabad = has carried out a number of meetings / discussions over the past 10 months = as a result of which the community has been able to finalize the initial ch= apter applications. We look forward to play our contributions to overall co= re principles and goals of Internet Society as a vibrant, open and inclusiv= e chapter.

J. Your contact information=E2=80=A8

Name : Naveed Ul Haq
Affiliations: Pakistan Telecommunication Authority, Assistant Director (ICT= )
[..contact details on file..]

------------------------------------------------

_______________________________________________
Chapter-delegates mailing list
Chapter-delegates at elis= ts.isoc.org
https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates

--20cf307d0374fea34f04c1cfc156-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Rehman's involvement in the Chapter Formation are particularly = heartening ... Naveed is a former ISOC IGF Ambassador (Sharm el Sheikh, 2009) and an = Alumnus of the ISOC NGL Programme - he was also in attendance as the = recent Global INET on the NGL track. Madeeha is also a former ISOC IGF Ambassador (Nairobi, 2011) and an = Alumnus of the ISOC NGL Programme - she also attended the Global INET = via the NGL programme. More than anything else, this sends a really positive signal regarding = the ongoing success of the NGL Programme in igniting new Chapter = formation as well as rejuvenating dormant Chapters. Rgds, Tracy Hackshaw Vice-Chair Internet Society Trinidad & Tobago Chapter=20 On Jun 6, 2012 7:59 AM, "Sabrina Wilmot" wrote: Dear Colleagues, The following application for a Chapter in Islamabad (Pakistan) has been = received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and review. Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially = been recognised by the Internet Society. If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing to = establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome. The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 21 June = 2012. Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list. Thanks, Sabrina Wilmot Manager, Chapter Formation Internet Society ------------------------------- Chapter Application A. Proposed name of the Chapter Internet Society Pakistan Islamabad Chapter B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve The chapter will serve the community belonging to Islamabad and = surrounding area(s); non-exclusive basis". C. Purpose and scope of Chapter The purpose of ISOC Pakistan Islamabad Chapter will be to serve the = interest of local community while focusing on the issues of local = relevance related with Internet education, policy, standards and = security. The following would be the scope of the chapter. =E2=80=A2 Promoting Internet access among community of interest = (geographical area). =E2=80=A2 Promoting education, awareness and capacity building for = Internet issues including the next generation of technologies and = protocols. =E2=80=A2 Building partnership with multi-stakeholders including = but not limited to government, private sector and civil society. =E2=80=A2 Encouraging local content and services development. =E2=80=A2 Identifying opportunities to utilize Internet for social = and economical development. =E2=80=A2 Running as a Not-for-Profit organization / society with = open, transparent and competitive basis under an aim to serve the = community. D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter The following tables summarize key priorities of the chapter for the = first year. - Workshop on Internet Security - Workshop on Internet for Development - Internet Stakeholders Meeting - Workshop on Child Online Protection - Community Survey on Internet Services - Annual Chapter Meeting E. Founding members of the Chapter Mr. Ammar Jafri, Pakistan Information Security Association Mr. Khawaja Mohammad Ali, Zarai Taraqiati Bank Ltd Mr. Ameen Sharif, Fauji Fertilizer Company Dr. Amir Qayyum, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University Ms. Madeeha Rehman, Nexus Telecom Mr. Humayun Zafar, International Institute of Business Analysis Mr. Syed Faran Ahmed, National University of Science & Technology Mr. Naveed Ul Haq, Pakistan Telecommunication Authority Mr. Amir Atta, Pro Pakistani Mr. Muhammad Yousaf, Riphah International University Mr. Imran Tanweer, Earth Factor Mr. Hassan Ijaz, National Institute of Management and Information = Security Mr. Sohaib Saleem, National Institute of Management and Information = Security Mr. Haroon Ur Rasheed, Fauji Fertilizer Company Mr. Talha Habib, Pakistan Information Security Association Mr. Muhammad Umair, Fauji Fertilizer Company Mr. Noman, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University Mr. Saud Khan, Riphah International University Dr. Adeel Baig, National University of Science & Technology Ms. Saira Gilani, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University Muhammad Aadil Rehman, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University Ms. Sadaf Yasmin, Center of Research in Networks and Telecom Ms. Shahneela Naz Center of Research in Networks and Telecom Mr. Imran Chaudhry, National University of Science & Technology Ms. Madeeha Azam, OPAL Studios F. List of supporters and partner organizations Name of the Organization, Stakeholder Group, Contact Details, Website Muhammad Ali Jinnah University, Academia , Dr. Amir Qayyum, = http://www.jinnah.edu.pk/ Center of Research in Networks and Telecom, Technical / Research, Dr. = Amir Qayyum, http://corenet.org.pk/ Riphah International University , Academia, Mr. Muhammad Yousaf, = http://www.riphah.edu.pk/ Pro Pakistani, Civil Society / Blog, Mr. Amir Atta, = http://propakistani.pk/ Center of Information Technology, Academia, Mr. Ammar Hussain Jafri, = http://www.cit.edu.pk/ NUST School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences, Academia, = Dr. Arshad Ali, http://seecs.nust.edu.pk/ Pakistan Information Society Association, Civil Society / Association, = Mr. Talha Habib, http://pisa.org.pk/ G. Membership Our efforts will be to outreach various segments of the community = especially during our first year to establishment to create necessary = awareness about Internet Society and invite members to join the Chapter. = We would be seeking necessary assistance from the available chapter = materials from ISOC Global. Moreover, our primary purpose will be to = engage youth in the process and provide them strength and confidence = towards chapter goals and activities. We are quite fortunate to already = capture attention of more than 75 volunteers during our chapter = establishment efforts over the past 10 months. We would carry out a = monthly chapter meeting on regular basis as we look forward to invite = members from multi-stakeholders groups. Our proposed Membership details are as follows: Individual Members =E2=80=93 Free (non-voting member) Student Members =E2=80=93 PKR 100 per year (Voting Member) Professional Members =E2=80=93 PKR 1000 per year (Voting Member) Organizational Members =E2=80=93 PKR 5000 per year (Voting Member) Furthermore, following facilities / promotion / advantages were listed = against each membership type of the chapter: Benefits (Student - Professional - Organizational) Subscription to mailing list (Yes - Yes - Yes) Informal networking / educational meetings / workshops (Yes - Yes - = Yes) Concessions for events / conferences (Yes - Yes - Yes) Provide inputs to government and industry submissions (Yes - Yes - = Yes) Use ISOC Islamabad Logo on their website (./. - Yes - Yes) Promote their events / publications to ISOC Islamabad Members (./. - = Yes - Yes) Information / Links on ISOC Islamabad website (./. - ./. - Yes) Staff Tutorial on Internet policy / technical developments (./. - ./. = - Yes) Concession on Membership for Employees (./. - ./. - Yes) H. List of requirements There are no mandatory requirements of registration from the local = Authorities. However, the chapter community has decided to get the = necessary registration performed with Islamabad Capital Territory = Administration. I. Additional information ISOC Pakistan Islamabad Chapter (In-formation) is a result of = rejuvenation of ISOC Pakistan Chapter. The rejuvenation process which = had been carried out as a result of community members participation has = resulted in establishing city/provincial based chapters in Pakistan. The = community at Islamabad has carried out a number of meetings / = discussions over the past 10 months as a result of which the community = has been able to finalize the initial chapter applications. We look = forward to play our contributions to overall core principles and goals = of Internet Society as a vibrant, open and inclusive chapter. J. Your contact information=E2=80=A8 Name : Naveed Ul Haq Affiliations: Pakistan Telecommunication Authority, Assistant Director = (ICT) [..contact details on file..] ------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Chapter-delegates mailing list Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CD43BB.2BA28930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I totally endorse Tracy=E2=80=99s comments. Naveed has been an avid = participant in ISOC activities both online and in person. He has my full = support for this new Chapter.

Maureen Hilyard

Chair, PICISOC

From:= = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org = [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of = Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 = 5:53 a.m.
To: Sabrina Wilmot
Cc: Chapter = Delegates
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form = an ISOC Chapter in Islamabad, Pakistan

From a personal point of view, = Mr. Naveed Ul Haq's and Ms. Madeeha Rehman's involvement in the Chapter = Formation are particularly heartening ...

Naveed is a = former ISOC IGF Ambassador (Sharm el Sheikh, 2009) and an Alumnus of the = ISOC NGL Programme - he was also in attendance as the recent Global INET = on the NGL track.

Madeeha is also a former ISOC IGF = Ambassador (Nairobi, 2011) and an Alumnus of the ISOC NGL Programme - = she also attended the Global INET via the NGL = programme.

More than anything else, this sends a really = positive signal regarding the ongoing success of the NGL Programme in = igniting new Chapter formation as well as rejuvenating dormant = Chapters.

Rgds,

Tracy = Hackshaw
Vice-Chair
Internet Society Trinidad & Tobago Chapter =

On Jun 6, 2012 7:59 AM, = "Sabrina Wilmot" <wilmot at isoc.org> = wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

The = following application for a Chapter in Islamabad (Pakistan) has been = received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and = review.
Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not = officially been recognised by the Internet Society.
If there are = people on this list that know the individuals proposing to establish the = Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
The period allowed for = comments is two weeks and the deadline is 21 June 2012.

Please do = not hesitate to contact me on or off list.

Thanks,
Sabrina = Wilmot
Manager, Chapter Formation
Internet = Society

-------------------------------
Chapter = Application

A. Proposed name of the Chapter
Internet Society = Pakistan Islamabad Chapter

B. Community of Interest the Chapter = will serve
The chapter will serve the community belonging to = Islamabad and surrounding area(s); non-exclusive basis".

C. = Purpose and scope of Chapter
The purpose of ISOC Pakistan Islamabad = Chapter will be to serve the interest of local community while focusing = on the issues of local relevance related with Internet education, = policy, standards and security.

The following would be the scope = of the chapter.
=E2=80=A2 Promoting Internet = access among community of interest (geographical area).
=E2=80=A2 = Promoting education, awareness and capacity = building for Internet issues including the next generation of = technologies and protocols.
=E2=80=A2 Building = partnership with multi-stakeholders including but not limited to = government, private sector and civil society.
=E2=80=A2 = Encouraging local content and services = development.
=E2=80=A2 Identifying opportunities = to utilize Internet for social and economical development.
=E2=80=A2 = Running as a Not-for-Profit organization / society = with open, transparent and competitive basis under an aim to serve the = community.

D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of = Chapter

The following tables summarize key priorities of the = chapter for the first year.
- Workshop on Internet Security
- = Workshop on Internet for Development
- Internet Stakeholders = Meeting
- Workshop on Child Online Protection
- Community Survey = on Internet Services
- Annual Chapter Meeting

E. Founding = members of the Chapter

Mr. Ammar Jafri, Pakistan Information = Security Association
Mr. Khawaja Mohammad Ali, Zarai Taraqiati = Bank Ltd
Mr. Ameen Sharif, Fauji Fertilizer Company
Dr. Amir = Qayyum, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University
Ms. Madeeha Rehman, Nexus = Telecom
Mr. Humayun Zafar, International Institute of Business = Analysis
Mr. Syed Faran Ahmed, National University of Science & = Technology
Mr. Naveed Ul Haq, Pakistan Telecommunication = Authority
Mr. Amir Atta, Pro Pakistani
Mr. Muhammad Yousaf, Riphah = International University
Mr. Imran Tanweer, Earth Factor
Mr. = Hassan Ijaz, National Institute of Management and Information = Security
Mr. Sohaib Saleem, National Institute of Management and = Information Security
Mr. Haroon Ur Rasheed, Fauji Fertilizer = Company
Mr. Talha Habib, Pakistan Information Security = Association
Mr. Muhammad Umair, Fauji Fertilizer Company
Mr. = Noman, Muhammad Ali Jinnah University
Mr. Saud Khan, Riphah = International University
Dr. Adeel Baig, National University of = Science & Technology
Ms. Saira Gilani, Muhammad Ali Jinnah = University
Muhammad Aadil Rehman, Muhammad Ali Jinnah = University
Ms. Sadaf Yasmin, Center of Research in Networks and = Telecom
Ms. Shahneela Naz Center of Research in Networks and = Telecom
Mr. Imran Chaudhry, National University of Science & = Technology
Ms. Madeeha Azam, OPAL Studios

F. List of = supporters and partner organizations

Name of the Organization, = Stakeholder Group, Contact Details, Website
Muhammad Ali Jinnah = University, Academia , Dr. Amir Qayyum, http://www.jinnah.edu.pk/
Center of Research in = Networks and Telecom, Technical / Research, Dr. Amir Qayyum, http://corenet.org.pk/
Riphah International = University , Academia, Mr. Muhammad Yousaf, http://www.riphah.edu.pk/
Pro Pakistani, Civil = Society / Blog, Mr. Amir Atta, http://propakistani.pk/
Center of Information = Technology, Academia, Mr. Ammar Hussain Jafri, http://www.cit.edu.pk/
NUST School of = Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences, Academia, Dr. Arshad Ali, = http://seecs.nust.edu.pk/
Pakistan Information = Society Association, Civil Society / Association, Mr. Talha Habib, http://pisa.org.pk/

G. = Membership

Our efforts will be to outreach various segments of = the community especially during our first year to establishment to = create necessary awareness about Internet Society and invite members to = join the Chapter. We would be seeking necessary assistance from the = available chapter materials from ISOC Global. Moreover, our primary = purpose will be to engage youth in the process and provide them strength = and confidence towards chapter goals and activities. We are quite = fortunate to already capture attention of more than 75 volunteers during = our chapter establishment efforts over the past 10 months. We would = carry out a monthly chapter meeting on regular basis as we look forward = to invite members from multi-stakeholders groups.

Our proposed = Membership details are as follows:

Individual Members =E2=80=93 = Free (non-voting member)
Student Members =E2=80=93 PKR 100 per year = (Voting Member)
Professional Members =E2=80=93 PKR 1000 per year = (Voting Member)
Organizational Members =E2=80=93 PKR 5000 per year = (Voting Member)

Furthermore, following facilities / promotion / = advantages were listed against each membership type of the = chapter:

Benefits (Student - Professional - = Organizational)
Subscription to mailing list (Yes - Yes - = Yes)
Informal networking / educational meetings / workshops = (Yes - Yes - Yes)
Concessions for events / conferences (Yes - = Yes - Yes)
Provide inputs to government and industry submissions = (Yes - Yes - Yes)
Use ISOC Islamabad Logo on their website = (./. - Yes - Yes)
Promote their events / publications to ISOC = Islamabad Members (./. - Yes - Yes)
Information / Links on ISOC = Islamabad website (./. - ./. - Yes)
Staff Tutorial on Internet = policy / technical developments (./. - ./. - Yes)
Concession = on Membership for Employees (./. - ./. - Yes)

H. List of = requirements

There are no mandatory requirements of registration = from the local Authorities. However, the chapter community has decided = to get the necessary registration performed with Islamabad Capital = Territory Administration.

I. Additional information

ISOC = Pakistan Islamabad Chapter (In-formation) is a result of rejuvenation of = ISOC Pakistan Chapter. The rejuvenation process which had been carried = out as a result of community members participation has resulted in = establishing city/provincial based chapters in Pakistan. The community = at Islamabad has carried out a number of meetings / discussions over the = past 10 months as a result of which the community has been able to = finalize the initial chapter applications. We look forward to play our = contributions to overall core principles and goals of Internet Society = as a vibrant, open and inclusive chapter.

J. Your contact = information=E2=80=A8

Name : Naveed Ul Haq
Affiliations: = Pakistan Telecommunication Authority, Assistant Director = (ICT)
[..contact details on = file..]

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------=_NextPart_000_0059_01CD43BB.2BA28930-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) tweeter @clo3 http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr On Jun 8, 2012 9:35 AM, "Anne Lord" wrote: > hi Everyone, > > I am writing to let you know that I have resigned from ISOC effective July > 13th. I've decided to take a year long career break. I need to prepare > with my partner for a move to Europe in 2013 for work and to be closer to > my parents. Along the way, we will also enjoy some time off travelling. > > Truly, it has been a real pleasure to work with this community over the > last 6 years. Yes, it has been challenging at times, but for sure it was > never dull! :). > > Chapters rock! What a wonderfully unique, talented and diverse network of > people from all over the world! You do great things, and I am always > inspired and in awe of what is achieved. I have made lots of new friends > and it has been a privilege to support you and give strength to your voice. > There is still plenty of "work in progress" to help the support the > Chapters. I am happy to leave you in the very capable hands of the Chapter > Support team, Ted Mooney and the Regional Bureau Directors. > > I will most definitely miss working with you all and look forward to being > able to do so again at some point in the future. If anyone would like to > stay in touch, please contact me off list for my private email address. > > Wishing you all the very best in health, happiness and of course, for lots > of success in your Chapter :) > > Best wishes, > > Anne > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- > Anne Lord, > Director of Chapters http://www.isoc.org > Internet Society "The Internet is for everyone" > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- > > ______________________________**_________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.**org > https://elists.isoc.org/**mailman/listinfo/chapter-**delegates > --e89a8ff247a59fbd8c04c1ea8570 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Anne, while you will be missed by us all but especially those of us who = have worked closely with you over the years, I know you will not 'dissa= pear' from our midst=A0 (your even a valued member of our AU Chapter :-= ) :-)=A0 I personally want to wish you well on this next phase of your life= and look forward to keeping in touch because of OUR Internet ... keep us p= osted please...

Kisses
CLO

From my Android Tablet...

Cheryl=A0 Langdon-Orr (CLO)
tweeter @clo3
http://about.me/cheryl.Langdo= nOrr

On Jun 8, 2012 9:35 AM, "Anne Lord" &l= t;lord at isoc.org> wrote:

hi Everyone,

I am writing to let you know that I have resigned from ISOC effective July = 13th. I've decided to take a year long career break. =A0I need to prepa= re with my partner for a move to Europe in 2013 for work and to be closer t= o my parents. Along the way, we will also enjoy some time off travelling.
Truly, it has been a real pleasure to work with this community over the las= t 6 years. Yes, it has been challenging at times, but for sure it was never= dull! :).

Chapters rock! =A0What a wonderfully unique, talented and diverse network o= f people from all over the world! =A0You do great things, and I am always i= nspired and in awe of what is achieved. =A0I have made lots of new friends = and it has been a privilege to support you and give strength to your voice.= There is still plenty of "work in progress" to help the support = the Chapters. I am happy to leave you in the very capable hands of the Chap= ter Support team, Ted Mooney and the Regional Bureau Directors.

I will most definitely miss working with you all and look forward to being = able to do so again at some point in the future. =A0 If anyone would like t= o stay in touch, please contact me off list for my private email address.
Wishing you all the very best in health, happiness and of course, for lots = of success in your Chapter :)

Best wishes,

Anne
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--e89a8ff247a59fbd8c04c1ea8570-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Chennai I have found you performing your role as Head of Chapter Support in a definitely supportive manner, guiding and helping Chapters and Chapter Leaders in every possible way. You have been unassuming, kind and fair. I, like many others from Chapters, have always felt that you have not only worked for Chapters, but cared for Chapters and always did the best that you could do for Chapters. Internet Society loses a very sincere, competent and dedicated Executive and Chapters lose a wonderful person who cares. While this is our loss, it is a normal part of everyone's career to move on to new organizations to new roles and responsibility. I am happy to know that are moving with your Partner to Europe, will stay closer to your parents and I wish you a pleasant life and an all new career in tune with your interests that you would find it rewarding and fulfilling. Wish you all the Best, Anne. Sivasubramanian M Internet Society India Chennai. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Giandomenico Massari < gmassari at danelec-ltd.com> wrote: > Dear Anne, > I can express on behalf of our members of Nigeria Chapter our hurt of the > news of your resignation from Isoc. > We really appreciated our work in order to develop and sustain the Isoc > chapter all over the world. > You have been a strong Isoc pillar!!! > Anyway we are wishing you the best on your new way forward on your life. > We will miss you. > Sincerely > Giandomenico Massari > Isoc Nigeria Chapter > > -----Original Message----- > From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org > [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Anne Lord > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:32 AM > To: ISOC Chapter Delegates > Subject: [Chapter-delegates] A change of direction for a while... Leaving > ISOC > > hi Everyone, > > I am writing to let you know that I have resigned from ISOC effective July > 13th. I've decided to take a year long career break. I need to prepare > with > my partner for a move to Europe in 2013 for work and to be closer to my > parents. Along the way, we will also enjoy some time off travelling. > > Truly, it has been a real pleasure to work with this community over the > last > 6 years. Yes, it has been challenging at times, but for sure it was never > dull! :). > > Chapters rock! What a wonderfully unique, talented and diverse network of > people from all over the world! You do great things, and I am always > inspired and in awe of what is achieved. I have made lots of new friends > and it has been a privilege to support you and give strength to your voice. > There is still plenty of "work in progress" to help the support the > Chapters. I am happy to leave you in the very capable hands of the Chapter > Support team, Ted Mooney and the Regional Bureau Directors. > > I will most definitely miss working with you all and look forward to > being able to do so again at some point in the future. If anyone > would like to stay in touch, please contact me off list for my private > email > address. > > Wishing you all the very best in health, happiness and of course, for lots > of success in your Chapter :) > > Best wishes, > > Anne > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Anne Lord, > Director of Chapters http://www.isoc.org > Internet Society "The Internet is for everyone" > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > > _______________________________________________ > Chapter-delegates mailing list > Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org > https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates > --0015175cba3054f66004c1f0ce6f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Anne,

From my interaction with you right from the time of f= ormation of ISOC India Chennai I have found you performing your role as Hea= d of Chapter Support in a definitely supportive manner, guiding and helping= Chapters and Chapter Leaders in every possible way. You have been unassumi= ng, kind and fair.

I, like many others from Chapters, have always felt that you have not o= nly worked for Chapters, but cared for Chapters and always did the best tha= t you could do for Chapters.

Internet Society loses a very sincere, = competent and dedicated Executive and Chapters lose a wonderful person who = cares.

While this is our loss, it is a normal part of everyone's career to= move on to new organizations to new roles and responsibility. I am happy t= o know that are moving with your Partner to Europe, will stay closer to you= r parents and I wish you a pleasant life and an all new career in tune with= your interests that you would find it rewarding and fulfilling.

Wish you all the Best, Anne.

Sivasubramanian M
Internet Socie= ty India Chennai.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Giandom= enico Massari <gmassari at danelec-ltd.com> wrote:
Dear Anne,
I can express on behalf of our members of Nigeria Chapter our hurt of the news of your resignation from Isoc.
We really appreciated our work in order to develop and sustain the Isoc
chapter all over the world.
You have been a strong Isoc pillar!!!
Anyway we are wishing you the best on your new way forward on your life. We will miss you.
Sincerely
Giandomenico Massari
Isoc Nigeria Chapter

-----Original Message-----
From: chapter-= delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
[mailto:chapte= r-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Anne Lord

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:32 AM
To: ISOC Chapter Delegates
Subject: [Chapter-delegates] A change of direction for a while... Leaving ISOC

hi Everyone,

I am writing to let you know that I have resigned from ISOC effective July<= br> 13th. I've decided to take a year long career break. =C2=A0I need to pr= epare with
my partner for a move to Europe in 2013 for work and to be closer to my
parents. Along the way, we will also enjoy some time off travelling.

Truly, it has been a real pleasure to work with this community over the las= t
6 years. Yes, it has been challenging at times, but for sure it was never dull! :).

Chapters rock! =C2=A0What a wonderfully unique, talented and diverse networ= k of
people from all over the world! =C2=A0You do great things, and I am always<= br> inspired and in awe of what is achieved. =C2=A0I have made lots of new frie= nds
and it has been a privilege to support you and give strength to your voice.=
There is still plenty of "work in progress" to help the support t= he
Chapters. I am happy to leave you in the very capable hands of the Chapter<= br> Support team, Ted Mooney and the Regional Bureau Directors.

I will most definitely miss working with you all and look forward to
being able to do so again at some point in the future. =C2=A0 If anyone
would like to stay in touch, please contact me off list for my private emai= l
address.

Wishing you all the very best in health, happiness and of course, for lots<= br> of success in your Chapter :)

Best wishes,

Anne
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Director of Chapters =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://www.isoc.org
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Hi Joly,

there is a mistake in the list of the speakers, Mon= ica Abalo Laforgia was not in the meeting.

From the Argentina Cha= pter it was me Olga Cavalli, secretary=A0, and Adrian Carballo pro-treasure= r of the chapter.

I will welcome if you can fix the list and circulate it again.

Best regards and thanks

Olga Cavalli

Argentina Chapt= er

2012/10/18 Joly MacFie <joly at pu= nkcast.com>

The video of the Chapters + Members Meeting @ ICANN 45= =A0is at http://= youtu.be/jaj_XvrMhd0

On this one Paul Brigner has set a new benchmark on webcast = quality. It is fantastic to see so many familiar names in such detail!

While many more are present, speakers include

=
Markus Kummer - VP Public Policy, Internet Society
Sivasubra= manian Muthusamy - ISOC Chennai
S=E9bastien Bachollet - ISOC Fran= ce

Evan Leibovitch - At-Large Advisory Committee
Alejandro Pisa= nty - ISOC Mexico
Stefano Trumpy - ISOC Italy
Olivier C= r=E9pin-Leblond - ISOC England
Walda Roseman - COO, Internet Soci= ety

Eva Fr=F6lich - Chair, Board of Trustees, Internet Society
R= udi Vansnick - ISOC Belgium
Ted Mooney - Sr. Director for Members= hip and Services, Internet Society
Glenn McKnight - ISOC Canada
Oksana Pryhodko - ISOC Ukraine
Victor Ndonnang - ISOC Camero= on
Cintra Sooknanan - ISOC Trindad & Tobago
M=F3nic= a Abalo Laforgia - ISOC Argentina
Tracy Hackshaw - ISOC Trindad &= amp; Tobago

Jacek Gajewski - Chapter Development Manager, Internet Society
Alain Aina - Trustee, Internet Society
Grigori Saghyan - ISOC = Armenia
Yrj=F6 L=E4nsipuro - ISOC Finland

and Chair:=A0Louis Houle - ISOC Qu=E9bec

A rough transcript is available at=A0http://isoc-ny.org/icann45= /chapters+members_icann45.txt
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--047d7b66f609ce2a0504cc5564cc-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: greetings! We all looking forward to contribute to the Internet Society in the nearest future. Warmest regards, Alexei Sozonov Internet Society Russia On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Carlos Vera Quintana wro= te: > Welcome Rusia! > > Carlos Vera > Isoc Ecuador > > El 10/04/2013, a las 7:58, Sabrina Wilmot escribi=F3: > > > Dear Sergey Sharikov, Alexei Sozonov and Fedor Smirnov, > > > > On behalf of all the Chapter Delegates, I'd like to extend a warm > welcome to you and your colleagues at the ISOC Russia Chapter to the > Internet Society and to this mailing list. > > > > As per previous discussions on this list, I encourage individual Chapte= r > Delegates to follow up with Sergey and his team off list if they wish to > extend their own personalised welcome greetings. > > > > If you have any questions regarding matters pertaining to your Chapter, > please do not hesitate to use your colleagues on this list to get feedbac= k > or to email Chapter Support directly. > > > > We all look forward to working closely with the Internet Society Russia > Chapter in the near future. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Sabrina Wilmot > > Manager, Chapter Formation > > Internet Society (ISOC) > > _______________________________________________ > > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > --=20 Very respectfully, Alexei Sozonov --047d7bdc886ec0780e04da04d89f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear ISOC=A0 Colleagues and Friends,

=

From all ISOC Russia members - thank you very much for your kind and = warm greetings!

We all looking forward to contribute=A0 to the Inter= net Society in the nearest future.

Warmest regards,

Alexei Sozonov<= br>Internet Society Russia

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Carlo= s Vera Quintana <cveraq at gmail.com> wrote:

Welcome Rusia!

Carlos Vera
Isoc Ecuador

El 10/04/2013, a las 7:58, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> escribi=F3:

> Dear Sergey Sharikov, Alexei Sozonov and Fedor Smirnov,
>
> On behalf of all the Chapter Delegates, I'd like to extend a warm = welcome to you and your colleagues at the ISOC Russia Chapter to the Intern= et Society and to this mailing list.
>
> As per previous discussions on this list, I encourage individual Chapt= er Delegates to follow up with Sergey and his team off list if they wish to= extend their own personalised welcome greetings.
>
> If you have any questions regarding matters pertaining to your Chapter= , please do not hesitate to use your colleagues on this list to get feedbac= k or to email Chapter Support directly.
>
> We all look forward to working closely with the Internet Society Russi= a Chapter in the near future.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sabrina Wilmot
> Manager, Chapter Formation
> Internet Society (ISOC)
> _______________________________________________
> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribe= d
> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Societ= y
> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org
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--047d7bdc886ec0780e04da04d89f-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: role as an equal partner at the high level discussions that take place. As a UN organisation, we assume that the ITU upholds the UN principles of cooperation and dialogue, and will listen to the voices of organisations such as ISOC and ICANN who represent us as end-users in the future development of the internet. Maureen Pacific Islands -----Original Message----- From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Veni Markovski Sent: Sunday, 12 May 2013 9:51 p.m. To: President at isoc-au.org.au Cc: ISOC Elections Committee; Chapter Delegates; ISOC Chapter Support Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Invitation to vote in the 2013 ISOC BoT Chapter election Hi, Narelle. Some natural questions for the candidates to be Trustees: We'd like to hear the views of the candidates about the desire of the ITU to have an increased role and control mechanisms over the Internet. Also, on the ITU relations with ISOC. ISOC is a sector member of the ITU-T and ITU-D. What's in it for ISOC? Who benefits more - ISOC or ITU, or both equally? We'd like also to hear what are your views on the new President/CEO - who he or she should be, what qualities they ought to have? Thanks. On 05/09/2013 20:45, Narelle Clark President ISOC-AU wrote: > I would be happy to participate in such an activity. > > Of course there would need to be a range of time zones facilitated. > > It may be best to integrate this into an overall review of election > processes planned for next year. At this stage it could be a bit late > and I for one would not like to see anyone disadvantaged. > > > Regards > > > Narelle > > On Fri, May 10, 2013 2:05 am, Elena Zvarici wrote: >> Why don't we organize a webinar/hangout with the candidates in which >> chapters can meet their candidates "live" and have a chance to have >> their questions answered, maybe more then 6. A moderator would of >> course be advisable. >> Best, >> >> >> Elena Zvarici >> Communication manager >> Internet Society Romania >> +40726128728 >> http://www.isoc.ro >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Internet-Society-Romania/1881919978714 >> 04 >> http://www.twitter.com/isocro >> Yes, I blog _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: encourage discussion in a set of area that we feel needs to be addressed. Please feel free to do the same as well if you see that discussions are stagnant etc. The Tasks are to be completed and presented in a word document within 2 weeks from today. *Survey [To Be Finalised By Friday Next Week]* The initial draft that Oksana and Satish have prepared is on the Wiki so please add your comment. Also look within your groups and figure out what are at least 2 or three questions that you would like to know from members of the At Large community. You can forward this to the Survey Team at least by Monday next week because on Tuesday, the editing of the Survey will start where we will start finalising the Survey. To access the current list of questions, please see the link provided for in the table above. In the event that you think questions are redundant, please do so. We would like you to please select which Groups you would like to join by this week. On Friday, we will be closing the space for volunteers involvement and if no names come forward by then, we will assume that you are disinterested in the operations of the Working Group. If for some you this is the first time to the Wiki, please feel free to send Staff or Dev Anand Teelucksingh" who is a Member of the Steering Committee and he can guide you. If this is your first time to contribute to an At large project, we would like to say that we are excited to share in your first experience and please feel free to send us emails (staff) to inquire. Feel free to ask if things are not clear and please keep the communication lines open. Thank you. Warm Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala P.O. Box 17862 Suva Fiji Twitter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Tel: +679 3544828 Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851 Blog: salanieta.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ capacity-building-wg mailing list capacity-building-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/capacity-building-wg -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - --089e01229c12d43bef04dd391428 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I know many Chapters are also At-Large Structures in ICANN= . Currently there is a capacity building exercise going on, and more volunt= eers are needed/welcome.

Many hands make light work!

Volunteers should join ONLY ONE of the groups below, = =A0before Friday.

I myself am in the Social Media = group.

You can contact Dev Anand Teelucksing= h" <devtee at gm= ail.com> to put your name up.

There is also an opportunity to comment on = a draft of a forthcoming survey.

joly.=A0

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: = Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salani= eta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:57 AM
Subject: [Capacity-Building-WG] Capac= ity Building Update
To: At-Large Capacity Building WG <capacity-building-wg at atla= rge-lists.icann.org>
Cc: Carlos Reyes <carlos.reyes= @icann.org>

Dear Colleagues,

This is a= brief follow-up after today's meeting. =A0Satish and Oksana are leadin= g the compilation on the Survey and we are all invited to comment on the Su= rvey Draft Questions that they have initiated. Today we created sub-group s= tructures to allow us to focus on our tasks. To this end, we would like to = invite you to please select one (1) group only if you have not given your p= referred group. There will be time for cross pollination of ideas so we all= get a chance to put our fingerprints on each Group's completed tasks. = We would like to encourage everyone to fully utilise their areas of skill s= ets/competence/expertise such as public relations/journalism/IT/engineering= /teaching etc to ensure that we can have a rich breadth of input.

Below, you will find the links (URL) to the space for e= ach sub-group.

Survey	https://community.icann.org/x/uiF-Ag
Content	https://community.icann.org/x/qSF-Ag
Face to Face	https://community.icann.org/x/tiF-Ag
Online	https://community.icann.org/x/siF-Ag
Social Media	https://community.icann.org/x/riF-Ag

We encourage you to be innovative and utilise the wiki = and the email list for your discussions. I would like to ask the Staff to p= lease post the Action Items in the Wiki. The most pressing deadline is to f= inalise the Survey by next week Friday.

General Guidelines

For = instance when using the Mailing list to discuss your group's work pleas= e put your group in paratheses, for example. If I am in the "Content&q= uot; Team and I wish to initiate a thread on "Content" then in th= e subject line of the email I will put [Content]. Groups have two weeks to = complete their tasks and we encourage you to initiate dialogue, create an e= nergetic environment and empower your colleagues to participate. Remember t= hat you all have an equal voice so we would like you to have a sense of own= ership to the group that you have selected. Feel free to be creative, think= outside the box. Remember, you/we are doing this for all the ALSes and our= At Large community to empower them equally. So with that, feel energised. = We are looking forward to seeing heavy traffic in the email lists and trust= that you can synthesise the same and add to the wiki.=A0

From time to time, the Steering Committee will initiate= dialogue or encourage discussion in a set of area that we feel needs to be= addressed. Please feel free to do the same as well if you see that discuss= ions are stagnant etc. The Tasks are to be completed and presented in a wor= d document within 2 weeks from today.

Survey [To Be Finalised By Friday Next Week]

The initial draft that Oksana and Satish have prepared is on the Wik= i so please add your comment. Also look within your groups and figure out what are at least 2 or thr= ee questions that you would like to know from members of the At Large commu= nity. You can forwa= rd this to the Survey Team at least by Monday next week because on Tuesday,= the editing of the Survey will start where we will start finalising the Su= rvey. To access the current list of questions, please see the link p= rovided for in the table above. In the event that you think questions are r= edundant, please do so.

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We will continue to support this effort, as Nicaragua is in a very dire sit= uation with respect to Internet penetration: they are the less connected co= untry in the continental Americas, just slightly better than Haiti in the C= aribbean.

Cheers

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> Has there ever been any interest there? Any plans? Anyone know anyone<= br> > down there planning to set one up? They seem like a cool bunch of
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Bangladesh Govt. plans= to filter internet contents. We know that this option of filtering is not = a solution, instead efforts must be taken to remove content from the source= . The move actually stemmed from=A0Google=92s refusal to take down the trailer o= f a religiously sensitive film from its website Youtube.com. Bangladesh eve= n asked Google to install a mirror server for Bangladesh nine months ago so= that such videos could be filtered out.=A0Youtube i= s still blocked in Bangladesh since last=A0September. = =A0Recently, in Bangladesh the Internet has become a double = edged sword which is used not only by activists to raise voice for legitima= te reasons but also by some bad politicians to provoke innocent people to c= reate deadly=A0violence.=A0We have already have had 'our spring' last February. Clearly,= the government is in a dire situation.

From ou= r chapter we are initiating a dialogue with the government in two weeks tim= e. We would like to get your inputs about this issue. I know many govts hav= e implemented filtering like this and all most all the report I have seen s= uggest that this does more harm than good for the people. The situation in = a country like Bangladesh deserves special care as there are millions of pe= ople here who donot have basic education and are easily agitated by inappro= priate/fake content. To give you an idea about the seriousness of the issue= , I would say that in a single day in February 40 people were dead!<= /div>

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time. We would like to get your inputs about this issue. I know many govts<= br> have implemented filtering like this and all most all the report I have see= n
suggest that this does more harm than good for the people. The situation in= a
country like Bangladesh deserves special care as there are millions of peop= le
here who donot have basic education and are easily agitated by
inappropriate/fake content. To give you an idea about the seriousness of th= e
issue, I would say that in a single day in February 40 people were dead!
Please let us know what you think can be done? What is the alternative? Doe= s
global companies have more responsibility in making their policies such tha= t
it takes care about issues in developing countries?

Thanks
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Shreedeep, Wyn, Faisal, Imran, all,

you may find some use for the Camden Principles published by an organi= zation called Article 19, which explain and set some clear guidelines on th= e possible limitations to free speech. They take the discussion we are havi= ng here to a fairly reasonable conclusion: limitations on free speech have to be exceptional and legally mandated.

The Camden Principles are in http://www.art= icle19.org/data/files/pdfs/standards/the-camden-principles-on-freedom-of-ex= pression-and-equality.pdf or abbreviated URL http://bit.ly/rotdX7

They have been useful in some debates and campaigns. Some people feel = that they should leave more room to restrain hate speech but there you have= it, a good basis for discussion.

Article 19 also has a neat game-like tool to help understand these iss= ues of free speech vs. hate speech, in h= ttp://hatespeechexplained.org/in-progress.html - hope you like it and find it useful in your communities.

A scholarly angle but simply explained by Zeynep Tufecki (@techsoch), = whose work I highly recommend: http://technosociolo= gy.org/?p=3D1135

Another useful basis for discussion is the academic work that shows or= discusses the effect of hate speech on free speech, a "chilling effec= t" of importance. A starting point is the work of Prof. Danielle Citro= n (close to Jonathan Zittrain and a great scholar) http://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewconte= nt.cgi?article=3D2055&context=3Dfac_pubs on "Intermediari= es and Free Speech".

You may care to read a less-dense article which our friends in ISOC Ke= nya may help validate (or the opposite): http://www.eurasiareview.com/28022013-tackling-online-hate-speech-in= -kenya/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_campaign=3DF= eed%3A+eurasiareview%2FVsnE+%28Eurasia+Review%29

Hope some of this helps while you are in the middle of the heated batt= les in each of your countries.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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Enviado el: viernes, 31 de mayo de 2013 00:10
Hasta: Winthrop Yu
CC: Chapter Delegates; ISOC-PH Officers; ISOC Chapter Support
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Content filtering and jurisdiction o= f cyberspace

Sympathize with the situation and act of what has happened, Internet i= s open to all sort of content which to some extent has its pros and cons. I= n one hand its openness is its key advantage and on the other at times it c= an be a threat. I believe censoring or filtering content on regional basis by National authorities certainly c= an result in solving the problem instantly but in long run it may res= ult in tragic consequence, so it is not a solution. Regional tolerance in r= espect to value and social norms needs to be recognized and accepted.

I do understand the importance of censoring the web Dr. Faisal, but once the filtering/censoring software is enab= led it will be a direct approach from the authorities to regulate in the potent scenario of what content is appropriate&nbs= p;or not. Regarding the banning, will that solve the problem, I belie= ve no it can always be overlooked by one or other means. The global communi= ty should look into this matter in consideration with the conflict and chaos that has been created with just= one video. Moreover, a constructive solution can evolve with a better mech= anism to deal with issue of social interest. Its high time we all think abo= ut such issues as if 40 people have died in Bangladesh then that kind of act can happen anywhere due to lack of absence of considerati= on and monitoring.

I think its a more dynamic scenario= which can be contemplated with a broad ideology in safe guarding the social values and norms.

Cheers to Life
Shreedeep Rayamajhi
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00977-9851049683(Nepal)

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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Winthrop Yu <w.yu at gmx.net><= /span> wrote:

+1 Imran.

I sympathize with the problems that Dr. Faisal and many others aroun= d the world face. One thing is clear, telling governments that -- &qu= ot;no, you cannot control" is not very productive. Instead there= has to be a way to work around this and appeal to national and development interests.

As an example, in mid-September last year, our President signed an A= nti-Cybercrime bill into law. Earlier, ISOC-PH had written to our Low= er House, after our Senate had passed their version of the bill. (Ref= . https://www.facebook.com/notes/internet-society-philippines-c= hapter-isocph/isoc-ph-position-paper-on-anti-cybercrime-final= -a4/297700783631704 )

We were the only org (ICT, CS or otherwise) to attempt any intervent= ion prior to enactment. Happily, the Lower House did listen and their= version did not contain the contentious blocking or take-down provision. &= nbsp;Unfortunately, this provision along with many others were inserted at the last minute during the BiCameral conference. &= nbsp;As a result there was signficant push-back (including street action) f= rom a wide spectrum of Philippine netizens. That last is an important= point.

Formal petitions were then filed with our Supreme Court to have the = law and/or several of its specific provisions struck down. The SC iss= ued a restraining order (TRO) which has suspended implementation of the law= until today. During pleadings, the government's Solicitor General himself delcined to argue in defense of the blocking/tak= e-down provision stating that his office found it possibly unconstitutional= . That was a major victory, and that provision will almost certainly = be struck-down by the Supreme Court.

While the Supreme Court has not yet isssued any rulings on what we n= ow call Anti-CybCrime v1, ISOC-PH is engaging with government (law enforcem= ent agencies, Justice Dept.,etc.) and other orgs (IT Association of the Phi= lippines, PH-CERT, etc.) to craft a v2 version of Anti-CybCrime which focuses exclusively on CyberCrime issues an= d excludes contentious content-related provisions, such as libel, cybersex,= and perhaps even spam.

At the same time, ISOC-PH also has to work closely and coordinate wi= th other stakeholders who would prefer that there be no Anti-CybCrime law. = I personally find this goal impracticable and would prefer to have an= Anti-CybCrime law, *provided that*, its scope is carefully delimited and sufficient rights protections are in place. &nb= sp;Else, there is the risk that other laws (perhaps not directly related to= CyberCrime) will be passed without the needed civil liberties and rights p= rotections.

Hope this helps,

WYn

On 5/31/2013 4:56 AM, Imran Anwar wrote:

Being a Pakistani born American, and having pioneered Int= ernet services and
co-founded .PK ccTLD for Pakistan, I can understand, appreciate and relate = to
Faisal's concerns about offensive content on the Internet.

That being said, I am both confused, and concerned, about his blanket state= ment
"filtering is not a solution, instead efforts must be taken to remove = content
from the source." That to me is quite opposite to the whole idea of a = free and
open platform like the Internet.

Granted some things, like child pornography, can be targeted for "remo= ve content
from the source" type efforts, but almost anything else on the Interne= t is
something that someone, somewhere, sometime or another, can find "obje= ctionable"
and come up with "valid" sounding excuses demanding it be taken o= ff.

So, much that I do not like the idea of governments, especially in developi= ng
nations, spending millions on trying to play the role of censor, or content=
monitor, trying to filter what may be unsuitable for them, it is, at least = in my
humble opinion, slightly more palatable than the idea of insisting that any= and
all content anyone finds objectionable be removed from all sources.

To me it sounds like developing nations with highly illiterate populations = (and
even the now political correctness fever ridden modern societies) need to l= earn
to ignore things rather than trying to control or erase what they find
objectionable. Quite frankly, and sadly, I find it laughable how our fellow=
Muslims will use objectionable content (say a video or cartoon) to do thing= s far
more objectionable to God, and to Prophet Muhammad, like killing innocent p= eople
in "protests". Even the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did not puni= sh those who
directly insulted him or even physically dumped things on him (some on a re= gular
basis when he used to say his prayers). It seems like current Muslims like = to
think they are representing Islam and the Prophet's way of life by doing th= e
exact opposite of what he did or would like to see.

The answer to hate, or abuse, is not to go killing the messenger or destroy= ing
the medium, it is to engage the abuser magnanimously, or, at worse, ignorin= g them.

And an essential ingredient to going down that path is to promote education= ...

As I often say in my speeches to different audiences on similar topics, the=
first word of Wahi that God sent Prophet Muhammad was not "Jihad"= or "Kill X, Y,
Z" or "Block YouTube"...

The word was... "Iqra".... READ....

How ironic that it is the same Muslim countries populations that sadly have= the
highest percentages of illiteracy, from Afghanistan to Pakistan, from Bangl= a
Desh to places in Africa.

Let's teach people everywhere to engage, not offend, and to ignore if offen= ded,
than to go try to kill people or a platform.

These are my personal opinions, not representing any organization, governme= nt,
business, or other individuals.

Imran Anwar
http://imran.com
http://facebook.= com/IMRAN.TV

On May 30, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Faisal Hasan <hasansf at gmail.com

<mailto:hasansf at g= mail.com>> wrote:

Dear Friends,

Bangladesh Govt. plans to filter internet contents. We know that this optio= n
of filtering is not a solution, instead efforts must be taken to remove
content from the source. The move actually stemmed from Google=92s refusal = to
take down the trailer of a religiously sensitive film from its website

Youtube.com <http://You= tube.com>. Bangladesh even asked Google to install a

mirror server for Bangladesh nine months ago so that such videos could be filtered out. Youtube is still blocked in Bangladesh since last September.<= br> Recently, in Bangladesh the Internet has become a double edged sword which = is
used not only by activists to raise voice for legitimate reasons but also b= y
some bad politicians to provoke innocent people to create deadly violence. = We
have already have had 'our spring' last February. Clearly, the government i= s
in a dire situation.

From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: eks
time. We would like to get your inputs about this issue. I know many govts<= br> have implemented filtering like this and all most all the report I have see= n
suggest that this does more harm than good for the people. The situation in= a
country like Bangladesh deserves special care as there are millions of peop= le
here who donot have basic education and are easily agitated by
inappropriate/fake content. To give you an idea about the seriousness of th= e
issue, I would say that in a single day in February 40 people were dead!
Please let us know what you think can be done? What is the alternative? Doe= s
global companies have more responsibility in making their policies such tha= t
it takes care about issues in developing countries?

Thanks
Faisal Hasan, PhD
Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter
_______________________________________________

_______________________________________________
As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
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It is also worth reading ICANN SSAC's report, SAC-056. It is available= in several languages at http://www.icann.org/en/groups/ssac/documents. <= /div>

- Jason Livingood

On 5/31/13 10:43 AM, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx> wrote:

Shreedeep, Wyn, Faisal, Imran, all,

you may find some use for the Camden Principles published by an organi= zation called Article 19, which explain and set some clear guidelines on th= e possible limitations to free speech. They take the discussion we are havi= ng here to a fairly reasonable conclusion: limitations on free speech have to be exceptional and legally mandated.

The Camden Principles are in http://www.art= icle19.org/data/files/pdfs/standards/the-camden-principles-on-freedom-of-ex= pression-and-equality.pdf or abbreviated URL http://bit.ly/rotdX7

They have been useful in some debates and campaigns. Some people feel = that they should leave more room to restrain hate speech but there you have= it, a good basis for discussion.

Article 19 also has a neat game-like tool to help understand these iss= ues of free speech vs. hate speech, in h= ttp://hatespeechexplained.org/in-progress.html - hope you like it and find it useful in your communities.

A scholarly angle but simply explained by Zeynep Tufecki (@techsoch), = whose work I highly recommend: http://technosociolo= gy.org/?p=3D1135

Another useful basis for discussion is the academic work that shows or= discusses the effect of hate speech on free speech, a "chilling effec= t" of importance. A starting point is the work of Prof. Danielle Citro= n (close to Jonathan Zittrain and a great scholar) http://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewconte= nt.cgi?article=3D2055&context=3Dfac_pubs on "Intermediari= es and Free Speech".

You may care to read a less-dense article which our friends in ISOC Ke= nya may help validate (or the opposite): http://www.eurasiareview.com/28022013-tackling-online-hate-speech-in= -kenya/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_campaign=3DF= eed%3A+eurasiareview%2FVsnE+%28Eurasia+Review%29

Hope some of this helps while you are in the middle of the heated batt= les in each of your countries.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
Facultad de Qu=EDmica UNAM

Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
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+525541444475 DESDE M=C9XICO SMS +525541444475
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Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
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Desde: chapter-delega= tes-bounces at elists.isoc.org [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre= de Shreedeep Rayamajhi [weaker41 at gma= il.com]
Enviado el: viernes, 31 de mayo de 2013 00:10
Hasta: Winthrop Yu
CC: Chapter Delegates; ISOC-PH Officers; ISOC Chapter Support
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Content filtering and jurisdiction o= f cyberspace

Sympathize with the situation and act of what has happened, Internet i= s open to all sort of content which to some extent has its pros and cons. I= n one hand its openness is its key advantage and on the other at times it c= an be a threat. I believe censoring or filtering content on regional basis by National authorities certainly c= an result in solving the problem instantly but in long run it may res= ult in tragic consequence, so it is not a solution. Regional tolerance in r= espect to value and social norms needs to be recognized and accepted.

I do understand the importance of censoring the web Dr. Faisal, but once the filtering/censoring software is enabl= ed it will be a direct approach from the authorities to regulate in the potent scenario of what content is appropriate&nbs= p;or not. Regarding the banning, will that solve the problem, I belie= ve no it can always be overlooked by one or other means. The global communi= ty should look into this matter in consideration with the conflict and chaos that has been created with just= one video. Moreover, a constructive solution can evolve with a better mech= anism to deal with issue of social interest. Its high time we all think abo= ut such issues as if 40 people have died in Bangladesh then that kind of act can happen anywhere due to lack of absence of considerati= on and monitoring.

I think its a more dynami= c scenario which can be contemplated with a broad ideology<= /span> in safe guarding the social values and norms.=

Cheers to Life
Shreedeep Rayamajhi
00977-9841374547(Nepal)
00977-9851049683(Nepal)
00977-9813900099

+1(301)485-9395(US)

DISCLAIMER: This message is = intended only for the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient you = are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this info= rmation is strictly prohibited.

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Winthrop Yu <w.yu at gmx.net><= /span> wrote:

+1 Imran.

I sympathize with the problems that Dr. Faisal and many others aroun= d the world face. One thing is clear, telling governments that -- &qu= ot;no, you cannot control" is not very productive. Instead there= has to be a way to work around this and appeal to national and development interests.

As an example, in mid-September last year, our President signed an A= nti-Cybercrime bill into law. Earlier, ISOC-PH had written to our Low= er House, after our Senate had passed their version of the bill. (Ref= . https://www.facebook.com/notes/internet-society-philippines-c= hapter-isocph/isoc-ph-position-paper-on-anti-cybercrime-final= -a4/297700783631704 )

We were the only org (ICT, CS or otherwise) to attempt any intervent= ion prior to enactment. Happily, the Lower House did listen and their= version did not contain the contentious blocking or take-down provision. &= nbsp;Unfortunately, this provision along with many others were inserted at the last minute during the BiCameral conference. &= nbsp;As a result there was signficant push-back (including street action) f= rom a wide spectrum of Philippine netizens. That last is an important= point.

Formal petitions were then filed with our Supreme Court to have the = law and/or several of its specific provisions struck down. The SC iss= ued a restraining order (TRO) which has suspended implementation of the law= until today. During pleadings, the government's Solicitor General himself delcined to argue in defense of the blocking/tak= e-down provision stating that his office found it possibly unconstitutional= . That was a major victory, and that provision will almost certainly = be struck-down by the Supreme Court.

While the Supreme Court has not yet isssued any rulings on what we n= ow call Anti-CybCrime v1, ISOC-PH is engaging with government (law enforcem= ent agencies, Justice Dept.,etc.) and other orgs (IT Association of the Phi= lippines, PH-CERT, etc.) to craft a v2 version of Anti-CybCrime which focuses exclusively on CyberCrime issues an= d excludes contentious content-related provisions, such as libel, cybersex,= and perhaps even spam.

At the same time, ISOC-PH also has to work closely and coordinate wi= th other stakeholders who would prefer that there be no Anti-CybCrime law. = I personally find this goal impracticable and would prefer to have an= Anti-CybCrime law, *provided that*, its scope is carefully delimited and sufficient rights protections are in place. &nb= sp;Else, there is the risk that other laws (perhaps not directly related to= CyberCrime) will be passed without the needed civil liberties and rights p= rotections.

Hope this helps,

WYn

On 5/31/2013 4:56 AM, Imran Anwar wrote:

Being a Pakistani born American, and having pioneered Int= ernet services and
co-founded .PK ccTLD for Pakistan, I can understand, appreciate and relate = to
Faisal's concerns about offensive content on the Internet.

That being said, I am both confused, and concerned, about his blanket state= ment
"filtering is not a solution, instead efforts must be taken to remove = content
from the source." That to me is quite opposite to the whole idea of a = free and
open platform like the Internet.

Granted some things, like child pornography, can be targeted for "remo= ve content
from the source" type efforts, but almost anything else on the Interne= t is
something that someone, somewhere, sometime or another, can find "obje= ctionable"
and come up with "valid" sounding excuses demanding it be taken o= ff.

So, much that I do not like the idea of governments, especially in developi= ng
nations, spending millions on trying to play the role of censor, or content=
monitor, trying to filter what may be unsuitable for them, it is, at least = in my
humble opinion, slightly more palatable than the idea of insisting that any= and
all content anyone finds objectionable be removed from all sources.

To me it sounds like developing nations with highly illiterate populations = (and
even the now political correctness fever ridden modern societies) need to l= earn
to ignore things rather than trying to control or erase what they find
objectionable. Quite frankly, and sadly, I find it laughable how our fellow=
Muslims will use objectionable content (say a video or cartoon) to do thing= s far
more objectionable to God, and to Prophet Muhammad, like killing innocent p= eople
in "protests". Even the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did not puni= sh those who
directly insulted him or even physically dumped things on him (some on a re= gular
basis when he used to say his prayers). It seems like current Muslims like = to
think they are representing Islam and the Prophet's way of life by doing th= e
exact opposite of what he did or would like to see.

The answer to hate, or abuse, is not to go killing the messenger or destroy= ing
the medium, it is to engage the abuser magnanimously, or, at worse, ignorin= g them.

And an essential ingredient to going down that path is to promote education= ...

As I often say in my speeches to different audiences on similar topics, the=
first word of Wahi that God sent Prophet Muhammad was not "Jihad"= or "Kill X, Y,
Z" or "Block YouTube"...

The word was... "Iqra".... READ....

How ironic that it is the same Muslim countries populations that sadly have= the
highest percentages of illiteracy, from Afghanistan to Pakistan, from Bangl= a
Desh to places in Africa.

Let's teach people everywhere to engage, not offend, and to ignore if offen= ded,
than to go try to kill people or a platform.

These are my personal opinions, not representing any organization, governme= nt,
business, or other individuals.

Imran Anwar
http://imran.com
http://facebook.= com/IMRAN.TV

On May 30, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Faisal Hasan <hasansf at gmail.com

<mailto:hasansf at g= mail.com>> wrote:

Dear Friends,

Bangladesh Govt. plans to filter internet contents. We know that this optio= n
of filtering is not a solution, instead efforts must be taken to remove
content from the source. The move actually stemmed from Google=92s refusal = to
take down the trailer of a religiously sensitive film from its website

Youtube.com <http://You= tube.com>. Bangladesh even asked Google to install a

mirror server for Bangladesh nine months ago so that such videos could be filtered out. Youtube is still blocked in Bangladesh since last September.<= br> Recently, in Bangladesh the Internet has become a double edged sword which = is
used not only by activists to raise voice for legitimate reasons but also b= y
some bad politicians to provoke innocent people to create deadly violence. = We
have already have had 'our spring' last February. Clearly, the government i= s
in a dire situation.

From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: eks
time. We would like to get your inputs about this issue. I know many govts<= br> have implemented filtering like this and all most all the report I have see= n
suggest that this does more harm than good for the people. The situation in= a
country like Bangladesh deserves special care as there are millions of peop= le
here who donot have basic education and are easily agitated by
inappropriate/fake content. To give you an idea about the seriousness of th= e
issue, I would say that in a single day in February 40 people were dead!
Please let us know what you think can be done? What is the alternative? Doe= s
global companies have more responsibility in making their policies such tha= t
it takes care about issues in developing countries?

Thanks
Faisal Hasan, PhD
Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter
_______________________________________________

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Jason,

indeed; the SSAC report SAC-056 is particularly meaningful in the anal= ysis of blocking and filtering Internet content through technical measures = in the infrastructure.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
Facultad de Qu=EDmica UNAM

Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico

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+52-1-554144447= 5 FROM ABROAD

Desde: Livingood, Jason [Jason_Livingood@= cable.comcast.com]
Enviado el: viernes, 31 de mayo de 2013 12:06
Hasta: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; Shreedeep Rayamajhi; Winthrop Y= u
CC: Chapter Delegates; ISOC-PH Officers; ISOC Chapter Support
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Content filtering and jurisdiction o= f cyberspace

It is also worth reading ICANN SSAC's report, SAC-056. It is available= in several languages at http://www.icann.org/en/groups/ssac/doc= uments.

- Jason Livingood

On 5/31/13 10:43 AM, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx> wrot= e:

Shreedeep, Wyn, Faisal, Imran, all,

you may find some use for the Camden Principles published by an organi= zation called Article 19, which explain and set some clear guidelines on th= e possible limitations to free speech. They take the discussion we are havi= ng here to a fairly reasonable conclusion: limitations on free speech have to be exceptional and legally mandated.

The Camden Principles are in http://www.artic= le19.org/data/files/pdfs/standards/the-camden-principles-on-freedom-of-expr= ession-and-equality.pdf or abbreviated URL http://bit.ly/rotdX7

They have been useful in some debates and campaigns. Some people feel = that they should leave more room to restrain hate speech but there you have= it, a good basis for discussion.

Article 19 also has a neat game-like tool to help understand these iss= ues of free speech vs. hate speech, in htt= p://hatespeechexplained.org/in-progress.html - hope you like it and find it useful in your communities.

A scholarly angle but simply explained by Zeynep Tufecki (@techsoch), = whose work I highly recommend: http://technosociology= .org/?p=3D1135

Another useful basis for discussion is the academic work that shows or= discusses the effect of hate speech on free speech, a "chilling effec= t" of importance. A starting point is the work of Prof. Danielle Citro= n (close to Jonathan Zittrain and a great scholar) http://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/cgi/viewcontent.c= gi?article=3D2055&context=3Dfac_pubs on "Intermediaries and Free Speech".

You may care to read a less-dense article which our friends in ISOC Ke= nya may help validate (or the opposite): http://www.eurasiareview.com/28022013-tackling-online-hate-speech-in-k= enya/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_campaign=3DFee= d%3A+eurasiareview%2FVsnE+%28Eurasia+Review%29

Hope some of this helps while you are in the middle of the heated batt= les in each of your countries.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
Facultad de Qu=EDmica UNAM

Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
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Desde: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [chapter-delegates-bo= unces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Shreedeep Rayamajhi [weaker41 at gmail.com]
Enviado el: viernes, 31 de mayo de 2013 00:10
Hasta: Winthrop Yu
CC: Chapter Delegates; ISOC-PH Officers; ISOC Chapter Support
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Content filtering and jurisdiction o= f cyberspace

Sympathize with the situation and act of what has happened, Internet i= s open to all sort of content which to some extent has its pros and cons. I= n one hand its openness is its key advantage and on the other at times it c= an be a threat. I believe censoring or filtering content on regional basis by National authorities certainly c= an result in solving the problem instantly but in long run it may res= ult in tragic consequence, so it is not a solution. Regional tolerance in r= espect to value and social norms needs to be recognized and accepted.

I do understand the importance of censoring the web Dr. Faisal, but once the filtering/censoring software is enabl= ed it will be a direct approach from the authorities to regulate in the potent scenario of what content is appropriate&nbs= p;or not. Regarding the banning, will that solve the problem, I belie= ve no it can always be overlooked by one or other means. The global communi= ty should look into this matter in consideration with the conflict and chaos that has been created with just= one video. Moreover, a constructive solution can evolve with a better mech= anism to deal with issue of social interest. Its high time we all think abo= ut such issues as if 40 people have died in Bangladesh then that kind of act can happen anywhere due to lack of absence of considerati= on and monitoring.

I think its a more dynamic scenario= which can be contemplated with a broad ideology in safe guarding the social values and norms.=

Cheers to Life
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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Winthrop Yu <w.yu at gmx.net><= /span> wrote:

+1 Imran.

I sympathize with the problems that Dr. Faisal and many others aroun= d the world face. One thing is clear, telling governments that -- &qu= ot;no, you cannot control" is not very productive. Instead there= has to be a way to work around this and appeal to national and development interests.

As an example, in mid-September last year, our President signed an A= nti-Cybercrime bill into law. Earlier, ISOC-PH had written to our Low= er House, after our Senate had passed their version of the bill. (Ref= . https://www.facebook.com/notes/internet-society-philippines-c= hapter-isocph/isoc-ph-position-paper-on-anti-cybercrime-final= -a4/297700783631704 )

We were the only org (ICT, CS or otherwise) to attempt any intervent= ion prior to enactment. Happily, the Lower House did listen and their= version did not contain the contentious blocking or take-down provision. &= nbsp;Unfortunately, this provision along with many others were inserted at the last minute during the BiCameral conference. &= nbsp;As a result there was signficant push-back (including street action) f= rom a wide spectrum of Philippine netizens. That last is an important= point.

Formal petitions were then filed with our Supreme Court to have the = law and/or several of its specific provisions struck down. The SC iss= ued a restraining order (TRO) which has suspended implementation of the law= until today. During pleadings, the government's Solicitor General himself delcined to argue in defense of the blocking/tak= e-down provision stating that his office found it possibly unconstitutional= . That was a major victory, and that provision will almost certainly = be struck-down by the Supreme Court.

While the Supreme Court has not yet isssued any rulings on what we n= ow call Anti-CybCrime v1, ISOC-PH is engaging with government (law enforcem= ent agencies, Justice Dept.,etc.) and other orgs (IT Association of the Phi= lippines, PH-CERT, etc.) to craft a v2 version of Anti-CybCrime which focuses exclusively on CyberCrime issues an= d excludes contentious content-related provisions, such as libel, cybersex,= and perhaps even spam.

At the same time, ISOC-PH also has to work closely and coordinate wi= th other stakeholders who would prefer that there be no Anti-CybCrime law. = I personally find this goal impracticable and would prefer to have an= Anti-CybCrime law, *provided that*, its scope is carefully delimited and sufficient rights protections are in place. &nb= sp;Else, there is the risk that other laws (perhaps not directly related to= CyberCrime) will be passed without the needed civil liberties and rights p= rotections.

Hope this helps,

WYn

On 5/31/2013 4:56 AM, Imran Anwar wrote:

Being a Pakistani born American, and having pioneered Int= ernet services and
co-founded .PK ccTLD for Pakistan, I can understand, appreciate and relate = to
Faisal's concerns about offensive content on the Internet.

That being said, I am both confused, and concerned, about his blanket state= ment
"filtering is not a solution, instead efforts must be taken to remove = content
from the source." That to me is quite opposite to the whole idea of a = free and
open platform like the Internet.

Granted some things, like child pornography, can be targeted for "remo= ve content
from the source" type efforts, but almost anything else on the Interne= t is
something that someone, somewhere, sometime or another, can find "obje= ctionable"
and come up with "valid" sounding excuses demanding it be taken o= ff.

So, much that I do not like the idea of governments, especially in developi= ng
nations, spending millions on trying to play the role of censor, or content=
monitor, trying to filter what may be unsuitable for them, it is, at least = in my
humble opinion, slightly more palatable than the idea of insisting that any= and
all content anyone finds objectionable be removed from all sources.

To me it sounds like developing nations with highly illiterate populations = (and
even the now political correctness fever ridden modern societies) need to l= earn
to ignore things rather than trying to control or erase what they find
objectionable. Quite frankly, and sadly, I find it laughable how our fellow=
Muslims will use objectionable content (say a video or cartoon) to do thing= s far
more objectionable to God, and to Prophet Muhammad, like killing innocent p= eople
in "protests". Even the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did not puni= sh those who
directly insulted him or even physically dumped things on him (some on a re= gular
basis when he used to say his prayers). It seems like current Muslims like = to
think they are representing Islam and the Prophet's way of life by doing th= e
exact opposite of what he did or would like to see.

The answer to hate, or abuse, is not to go killing the messenger or destroy= ing
the medium, it is to engage the abuser magnanimously, or, at worse, ignorin= g them.

And an essential ingredient to going down that path is to promote education= ...

As I often say in my speeches to different audiences on similar topics, the=
first word of Wahi that God sent Prophet Muhammad was not "Jihad"= or "Kill X, Y,
Z" or "Block YouTube"...

The word was... "Iqra".... READ....

How ironic that it is the same Muslim countries populations that sadly have= the
highest percentages of illiteracy, from Afghanistan to Pakistan, from Bangl= a
Desh to places in Africa.

Let's teach people everywhere to engage, not offend, and to ignore if offen= ded,
than to go try to kill people or a platform.

These are my personal opinions, not representing any organization, governme= nt,
business, or other individuals.

Imran Anwar
http://imran.com
http://facebook.= com/IMRAN.TV

On May 30, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Faisal Hasan <hasansf at gmail.com

<mailto:hasansf at g= mail.com>> wrote:

Dear Friends,

Bangladesh Govt. plans to filter internet contents. We know that this optio= n
of filtering is not a solution, instead efforts must be taken to remove
content from the source. The move actually stemmed from Google=92s refusal = to
take down the trailer of a religiously sensitive film from its website

Youtube.com <http://You= tube.com>. Bangladesh even asked Google to install a

mirror server for Bangladesh nine months ago so that such videos could be filtered out. Youtube is still blocked in Bangladesh since last September.<= br> Recently, in Bangladesh the Internet has become a double edged sword which = is
used not only by activists to raise voice for legitimate reasons but also b= y
some bad politicians to provoke innocent people to create deadly violence. = We
have already have had 'our spring' last February. Clearly, the government i= s
in a dire situation.

From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: eks
time. We would like to get your inputs about this issue. I know many govts<= br> have implemented filtering like this and all most all the report I have see= n
suggest that this does more harm than good for the people. The situation in= a
country like Bangladesh deserves special care as there are millions of peop= le
here who donot have basic education and are easily agitated by
inappropriate/fake content. To give you an idea about the seriousness of th= e
issue, I would say that in a single day in February 40 people were dead!
Please let us know what you think can be done? What is the alternative? Doe= s
global companies have more responsibility in making their policies such tha= t
it takes care about issues in developing countries?

Thanks
Faisal Hasan, PhD
Internet Society Bangladesh Dhaka Chapter
_______________________________________________

_______________________________________________
As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society
Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org

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Dear Latjor,

the case you present happening in Gambia with new laws is alarming. As= many of us as can, should find ways to support you. I will share one view = but there surely are many, better, others.

The law you describe is not Internet-specific enough and that is part = of the problem you face. It is a law about speech and conduct and I think i= t should be confronted as such.

In this sense, it is very likely that ISOC Gambia cannot do much alone= , while on the other hand there must be national and more international org= anizations that are deeply concerned and mounting a response. That response= is fully on the plane of free speech and support for a free press, with a reaction to a definition of crimes an= d misdemeanors which is too vague and broad, and open for misuse almost sur= ely by design.

Those organizations should take the lead, mark the tone, and assess th= e risks.

ISOC's role may be better defined if it focuses on the Internet aspect= s of these laws - how they extend to online forms of expression like blogs,= social-media sites, etc. but mostly if there is a difference between onlin= e and traditional media.

A key, and very inspiring, reference for this discussion will surely b= e the statements made over the last couple of years by the special rapporte= urs for free speech of the UN and other international organizations, Frank = La Rue, Carolina Botero, and others (they are known under the blanket name of Frank La Rue). Do you have acces= s to them?

The main point there is that the Internet should not be restricted to = any less rights than are available offline, nor should restrictions to the = use of the Internet be established that restrict, in turn, previously exist= ing offline rights. Frank adds some very clear conditions for restrictions on speech: they must be exceptional= , mandated by law, and transparent.

I think that you will also find very useful the Camden Principles of t= he organization Article 19.

My view is that keeping focussed on the Internet aspects of the proble= m makes you more effective and causes less flanks open, less risks to your = credibility, easier to attract support, despite a possible initial reaction= by the rights and press organizations that you are being weak, not risking enough, etc.

All of this I think is a bit beyond the core ISOC mandate but of cours= e you can't extricate yourself totally from this evil; still, the best stra= tegy for you may be to provide support through information and thought lead= ership, based on contributions like the above and the many better ones I hope will follow from other ISOC chap= ters.

Hope this makes sense; don't take it as advice but do as thoughts that= have been useful for some, in some specific contexts, and may help you ana= lysis in The Gambia. I for one wish you a good resulta and offer to continu= e support.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
Facultad de Qu=EDmica UNAM

Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico

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+52-1-554144447= 5 FROM ABROAD

Desde: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.i= soc.org [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de GABRIEL LA= TJOR NDOW [md at gambian.com]
Enviado el: viernes, 05 de julio de 2013 15:39
Hasta: GABRIEL LATJOR NDOW
CC: Chapter Delegates
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Disturbing trends in The Gambia with= regards to Internet Freedom

Further to my previous posting, one of the other national papers has p= ublished the following in response to the new amendment:

http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article= /quest-for-freedom-of-speech

Latjor (I prefer my trad. name)

On Jul 5, 2013, at 8:10 PM, GABRIEL LATJOR NDOW wrote:

Greetings,

A couple of months ago, the regulator, PURA, and the ministry of commu= nications, MOICI, released press statements effectively banning the use of = VOIP services in cyber cafes claiming that it has resulted in massive finan= cial loses for the incumbent operator, GAMTEL, though no evidence was provided to substantiate their claim.&= nbsp;

Included in the same Press Release was the banning of internet 'dating= services' offered (as it turns out by at least one) by cyber cafe.

A couple of days ago, the government presented an amendment to the Inf= ormation and Communications Act, 2009, which was lauded as one of the most = progressive and far reaching legal instruments in Africa by regional actors= . The Amendment according to the Minister of Information and Communication, Mr. Nana Grey-Johnson, seeks to= "provide a deterrent punishment of persons engaged in 'treacherous ca= mpaigns' against The Gambia both internally and externally'! (http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/bill-that-seeks-to-deter-treacher= ous-campaigns-against-gambia-gets-assemblys-blessings )

Yesterday, Reporters without Borders (www.rsf.org) made the following statements pertaining= to this new development:

Under the amended law, =93spreading of false news against the governme= nt or public officials=94 is punishable by up to 15 years in prison or a fi= ne of 3 million dalasis (64,000 euros). Its main target is Gambians who mak= e fun of government officials online.

ISOC Gambia is still in its infancy (one year fully operational)= and while we have made tremendous progress in inserting our voice on the l= ocal landscape, many of the members are nervous discussing or addressing th= is issue of Internet Freedom, Human Rights, Online Content, etc... though they are the major internet issues in this c= ountry that needs to be addressed as they impact on many other areas of int= ernet development in the country. So, as Chapter a leader who spent 20 year= s of his life in the U.S. before returning home 7 years ago and guiding the process to become an ISOC Chapt= er, I am seeking guidance from the ISOC family on 'best practices' in = tackling scenarios as the one in my beloved country. Note the there a= re no strong civil society voices/orgs operating in The Gambia as many have been silenced, forced into exile or operate und= erground for fear of persecution.

Below are the Press Release from RSF and one of the national papers on= the issue.

Thanks,

Gabriel Latjor Ndow (Chair)

ISOC Gambia

= Press Release

5 july 2013

THE GAMBIA

Internet users targeted by changes= to information law

http://en.rsf.org/gambia-internet-users-targ= eted-by-changes-05-07-2013,44899.html

Reporters Without Borders is very disturbed by amendme= nts to the 2009 Information and Communications Act =96 the main law limitin= g freedom of information in Gambia =96 which the National Assembly passed o= n 3 July.

Under the amended law, =93spreading of false news agai= nst the government or public officials=94 is punishable by up to 15 years i= n prison or a fine of 3 million dalasis (64,000 euros). Its main target is = Gambians who make fun of government officials online.

=93The amendments to the Information and Communication= s Act that the Gambian parliament has just adopted aggravate what is alread= y one of Africa=92s most repressive laws,=94 Reporters Without Borders said= .

=93The authorities are using these amendments to targe= t news providers and crack down on the Internet, one of the last spaces for= freedom of information in Gambia. We call for thei= r immediate withdrawal and a complete overhaul of the law, which already gags the media in the name of state security.=94=

The amendments were proposed by information and commun= ication minister Nana Grey-Johnson, who said their aim was the =93deterrent= punishment=94 of persons who engage in =93treacherous campaigns=94 at home= and abroad and incite =93unpatriotic behaviour.=94

President Yahya Jammeh is on the May 2013 Reporters Wi= thout Borders list of =93Predators of Press Freedom=94 (http://en.r= sf.org/predator-yahya-jammeh,44529.html) while Gambia is ranked 152nd out of 179 countries in the 2013 Reporters Wi= thout Borders press freedom index (http://en.rsf.org/press-freedo= m-index-2013,1054.html).

From the Daily Observer

Friday, July 05, 2013

http://observer.gm/africa/gamb= ia/article/bill-that-seeks-to-deter-treacherous-campaigns-against-gambia-ge= ts-assemblys-blessings

A Bill that seeks to provide for the deterrent punishment of persons who= are engaged in =91treacherous campaigns=92 against The Gambia both = internally and externally on Wednesday got approval at the country=92s Legi= slature, with members describing it as important for the nation.

Presented before lawmakers by the Information and Communication and Infrast= ructure minister, the Bill that is named =93Information and Communications = Amendment Act=94 includes internet-related under Section 173A.

It stated that; =93A person commits an offence if he or she uses the intern= et to =96 spread false news against the government or public officials; inc= ite dissatisfaction or instigate violence against the government or public = officials; impersonate any public official; blackmail any person; or threaten to commit a criminal offence against any= person.=94

It further stated that a person who commits an offence under sub-section (1= ) is liable on conviction to a fine of three million dalasis or imprisonmen= t to 15 years or to both the fine and imprisonment. It further stressed tha= t this section shall apply to all persons without regard to the place from which the offence was committed.<= /div>

Information minister, Nana-Grey Johnson told deputies that in the recent pa= st, some citizens of The Gambia have waged concerted efforts to pit the peo= ple and the nation=92s security officials against their government. He stre= ssed that they do this by inciting the people to engage in unpatriotic behaviour, spreading false news and en= gaging in criminal defamation against government officials.

The Information minister warned that such tendencies, if unchecked, are a r= ecipe for chaos and instability in any country. =93Therefore, this bil= l seeks to provide for the deterrent punishment of such persons who are eng= aged in such treacherous campaigns against The Gambia both internally and outside The Gambia,=94 he concluded. <= /div>

A nominated member, Hon. Seedy Njie, who seconded the bill, described it as= timely and very important. The Majority leader and member for Serrek= unda East, Hon. Fabakary Tombong Jatta, also commented on the bill.

--_000_6DCAB3E586E6A34FB17223DF8D8F0D3D91BB80F2W8EXMBDPunamloc_-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: the position and the operational possibilities of the chapters. I only have to mention what's happened and is going-on around the ITU, WCIT, other international bodies and all those local internet governance situations. Our ISOC mailing-lists are now permanently flooded with issues and concerns on these situations. When governments are making more and more international agreements and/or local laws on internet governance, it's important that we are able to positively and timely influence all those governments. Not only those few and short moments internationally but especially permanent and proactive in every country. Strong and equipped ISOC chapters are a key condition for this. Think together globally and act locally. 2. The (regulatory) compliance problems: The community of our Internet Society spreads over lot's of jurisdictions from, and in, sovereign states. Like any other international organization ISOC has to comply to local laws and regulations. Bylaws are directly related to this. However many local laws and regulations are actually and potential conflicting. It's wise to recognize this and especially the limited ability of ISOC to handle this. There are at least two areas of main concern: a. The membership registration system. b. The legal relations in-between the numerous ISOC legal entities. This also and specially includes our members. a. The membership registration system: The membership registration system has many problems. Well known are the many operational (functional, procedural and ICT) problems. The result is that members and registrations of members are not always related anymore. Especially the, processes and security of, mutations are out of control and corrupting the registrations more and more. Important in the bylaw process is that there are in several countries very strict but different laws and regulations on registration and handling of data about people and/or members. Frankly I don't think ISOC is capable to handle these compliance issues easily. This without draining lots of resources from our key target areas. However due to the laws and risks for ISOC and it's directors & managers it must be solved. A solution might be, to let the chapters (by bylaw) decide what type of registration suits best in their local legal situation. Sad for those who loves a "one for all" solution, but best for ISOC. b. The legal relations in-between the many, many ISOC legal entities: The above is a good example for that international legal issues are complex and not easy to handle. However there are many more area's what are to be concerned. Well known are complex issues like "international member versus chapter member" and the applicability of the bylaws when jurisdictions and/or authorities are named. I think that there is no easy solution, but if possible it's wise to avoid those complicating elements like naming jurisdictions and/or authorities and/or needless legal relations for members in the bylaws. Thanks again for giving the opportunity to review and pointing at some concerns we can solve. Best regards, Dick Kalkman President Internet Society The Netherlands ISOC The Netherlands Chapter E: d.h.kalkman at isoc.nl I: http://isoc.nl A: Prins Willem-Alexanderhof 5 Kamer i4.310 2595 BE Den Haag The Netherlands On 24-6-2013 14:19, Ted Mooney wrote: > To Individual members, Chapter Delegates and Advisory Council members, > > > After consideration of the legal and strategic requirements of the > Internet Society and serious analysis of the views offered by its > members and Chapters, the Board of Trustees (BoT) has asked the By-Laws > Working Group to share the Board?s recommended revisions with the > community for a final review. The purpose of this review is to ensure > that these changes are clear and understood before the Board votes on > their adoption rather than to entertain at this time additional > substantive changes. These recommendations include a number of > important updates. Some notable ones are: > > > > ? Board composition > > ? Acknowledgement of Chapters, their voting and other rights > and responsibilities, > > ? The ability of both Organization Members and Chapters to > form advisory groups > > ? The establishment of a process for Chapters to review and > appeal de-chartering decisions > > ? Conformance with the laws governing its incorporation > > > > We invite you to review the attached documents. The BLWG has prepared > two documents for ease of review, one which shows the full text and > where there are revisions; the other is a call-out of key issues raised > by the ISOC community. These documents will be presented to the > Trustees on July 8, 2013 for the Board?s review and for iproposed > adoption of the revised By-Laws at the July 22 meeting of the Board of > Trustees. > > > > The attached final recommendations are the product of nearly two years > of community consultations and careful consideration and debate by the > Trustees. The period for substantive comment closed in January of this > year and all comments were thoroughly reviewed by the Board . In this > final community review, the BLWG is open to comments only regarding > clarity of meaning and language. We will reflect key the views on > clarification /received by Wednesday, July 3/ in our July 8 report to > the BoT. > > The By-laws Working Group gratefully acknowledges the thoughtful > consideration and willingness to engage from the Organization Members, > Chapters and Individual Members. > > The Board of Trustees has taken community suggestions very seriously and > Trustees have on many occasions expressed their appreciation for the > valuable input they have received from ISOC Chapters and members. > > Once again, thank for taking time to review these documents for clarity. > > > > With best regards, > > > > The By-laws Working Group > > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: price of their government politics. Best regard, Nadira ISOC Palestine On Jul 27, 2013 9:55 AM, "Dr. Suhaidi B Hassan" wrote: > Dear Hanna, Sabrina, > > During my trip to Khartoum, Sudan recently, I have also seen growing > interest on forming an ISOC chapter there. But I wonder if Sudanese > colleagues are allowed to form a chapter there since the country is on th= e > US list of embargoed countries. > > Regards, > > > *************************************************************************= *** > Suhaidi Hassan PhD SMIEEE > Professor and Chair > InterNetWorks Research Laboratory > School of Computing, Universiti Utara Malaysia > 06010 UUM Sintok, M A L A Y S I A > W: http://www.internetworks.my; T: +604 928 6040; F: +604 928 4753 > > *************************************************************************= *** > > > On 27 Jul, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Hanna Kreitem wrote: > > Dear Sabrina, > Thank you for the update, and best of luck to the Yemen chapter, they see= m > to be eager and willing to work on Internet issues in Yemen, which can le= ad > as a sample for other similar countries. Kindly pass a note to them that = I > am willing to provide all the help possible, and I am sure the rest of th= e > community is willing to as well. > > Regards, > Hanna. > On 26 Jul 2013 18:20, "Sabrina Wilmot" wrote: > >> Dear Hanna, dear Joly, >> >> Thanks again for your questions regarding this application. Please find >> below the information as provided by the founding members of this Chapte= r: >> >> [=85] >> 1) Concerning the geographical representation of founding >> members: >> >> We have strived to spread the word and contact all people we know as >> potential founding members and succeeded in getting representatives from= 6 >> other provinces apart from Sana=92a. The core group is in Sana=92a is ba= sically >> due to the fact that it is the capital city and has over 80% of the >> activities, initiatives, and working ground for Internet-related >> activities. There are other big cities like Aden and Taiz, and many of t= he >> members =96including myself- are originally from those provinces and hav= e >> good contacts there. However, Internet services are very limited in most >> other cities and in some regions, there is barely any internet connectiv= ity >> due to extremely poor infrastructure. >> >> Through the social network group on Facebook and by using the resources >> and capabilities with founding members, we sought potential members thro= ugh >> their own connections. We have attempted to reach out to potential found= ing >> members from other provinces but we found very few people that were awar= e >> of ISOC and some were not even well acquainted with the Internet at larg= e. >> >> For a country with such a low penetration like Yemen, it would be best t= o >> use traditional media and other means to introduce ISOC and invite >> potential members to join but this would not be possible until we get th= e >> actual license. >> >> We have devised a plan to create the ground for expanding to target less >> connected provinces and regions that need support to improve Internet >> connectivity. We believe that it is important to take the first step >> starting from Sana=92a and adding more members from other regions as we = grow >> because the initiative is indeed a national one and covers the whole >> country. >> >> To achieve greater geographical representation, we have the following >> plans in place: >> >> a. Upon the launch of ISOC-Yemen, we plan to launch an official >> gathering in Sana=92a with all founding members present and media invite= d to >> cover the event. There we will send press releases to as many parties >> possible so as to inform residents in various provinces about the >> initiative and invite members to join. >> b. Among our projects is to hold regional activities and meetings to >> introduce ISOC-Yemen and let people sign up on the spot and inform them = of >> the benefits of joining and how together we could work to achieve its g= oals >> c. Apart from those meetings, member recruitment activities will >> include: >> - visiting colleges, schools, and giving presentations; >> - publishing announcements and news items in the media (print, >> radio) inviting members to apply >> - using various projects (workshops, conferences, etc.) as a mean= s >> to recruit new members >> >> In essence, we are eager to have ISOC-Yemen be inclusive and have >> representatives across Yemen but find that starting with this group of >> founding members will be a good start, especially as it is now high time= to >> form such an entity given the rapid growth of Internet usage. >> >> >> >> 2) Opportunities for funding ISOC-Yemen and creating >> sustainable income >> >> We certainly have a plan for the first year to find sources of funding >> and means of sustaining our operations and implement our projects. There >> are several avenues that we see most fitting to achieve that: >> >> 1) We have agreed on having membership fees of YR 2,000 ($10) per month >> per member. We will be giving a discount 50% to students so they could >> afford joining. With over 30 committed members from the start, this woul= d >> constitute $300 per month, which is good enough to pay for the rent of a >> small apartment and as we get more members, we will be able to cover oth= er >> expenses such as accessories, furniture, printing material, etc. >> 2) We have good connections with several national agencies that support >> such initiatives. Among them is the Social Development Fund, which could >> provide capacity building funds to help furnish our apartment, buy >> equipment, and cover costs of basic services such as Internet and power. >> 3) We can use the resources of the founding members as means of >> introducing ISOC-Yemen and creating visibility. Some founding members ha= ve >> pledged to provide space on their prominent websites, provide office spa= ce, >> and other available resources such as computers and other equipment >> 4) Partners, businesses and international organizations will be >> approached to help fund workshops and seminars related to Internet issue= s >> and some of the budgets will be allocated for capacity building and >> purchasing equipment and accessories that could be used for future >> activities. >> 5) Administrative fees to be paid to ISOC-Yemen for running projects >> (trainings, field work, researching Internet-related subjects, etc.) wil= l >> be an added source of income to sustain ISOC-Yemen and help it be >> productive and creative. >> 6) ISOC-Yemen Chapter takes into consideration that all its projects >> should have an element of sustainability in its activities. This is >> achieved by making the training programs, researches, and other consulta= ncy >> services paid by the candidates and beneficiaries seeking admission in i= t. >> This sector of Chapter generates income that covers some of the running >> costs of Chapter. >> >> In essence, we feel confident that the financial aspect of ISOC-Yemen >> will be safe and sustainability will not be an issue provided that the >> commitments shown by founding members and partners will be kept and beca= use >> the whole country is really witnessing a booming Internet-driven period >> with many good and positive prospects for success. >> >> [=85] >> >> >> Kind regards, >> Sabrina Wilmot >> Internet Society >> >> >> On 22 Jul 2013, at 09:15, Hanna Kreitem wrote: >> >> > Dear Sabrina, >> > >> > I happen to know one of the founding members, Ahmed AlMarwani, we have >> volunteered together at Arab Digital Expression Camps, summer camps that >> expose Arab youth to freedom of expression, use of technology in >> expression, and open culture. He was a dedicated person with interest in >> human rights and freedom of expression. >> > >> > I have a comment on the application regarding funding, there doesn't >> seem to be a clear plan on how will they fund their activities, is this >> required with the application? >> > >> > Regards, >> > Hanna. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Joly MacFie wrote= : >> > Hi Sabrina, >> > >> > I have in fact spent an extended period of my youth in Yemen, in Aden. >> A time I remember fondly. >> > >> > I notice that all the founding members are based in Sana'a. I wonder i= f >> there could be some representation from Aden, or whether there might be = a >> possibility for a separate or sub chapter to later be established there. >> > >> > joly >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Sabrina Wilmot >> wrote: >> > Dear Colleagues, >> > >> > The following application for a Chapter in Yemen has been received. It >> is being sent to this list for peer comment and review. >> > Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially >> been recognised by the Internet Society. >> > If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing t= o >> establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome. >> > The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 3 >> August 2013. >> > >> > Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Sabrina Wilmot >> > Manager, Chapter Formation >> > Internet Society >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > >> > A. Proposed name of the Chapter >> > ISOC Yemen Chapter (short for Internet Society Yemen Chapter) >> > >> > >> > B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve >> > Anyone in Yemen as well Yemeni expatriates abroad could become part of >> the community of interest. >> > >> > >> > C. Purpose and scope of Chapter >> > The chapter will be serving the interests of the Internet users by >> pursuing the following key areas within the boundaries of Yemen as its >> scope: >> > =95 Raising awareness among the public about the benefits of usi= ng >> the Internet and good practices that would minimize security and other >> risks to end users as well as promoting the efficient consumption of >> bandwidth. >> > =95 Encouraging websites to implement new services (applies to >> governmental, commerce, educational, cultural and other service-oriented >> websites) and hold contests to recognized distinguished websites. >> > =95 Promoting technical solutions to obstacles preventing effect= ive >> use of the Internet such as slow speed, malware, etc. >> > =95 Providing opportunities for training, education, networking = and >> knowledge sharing. >> > =95 Cooperating and partnering with entities from the government= , >> civil society, private sector, international community and others to >> promote the free and effective use to the Internet for the benefit of th= e >> society. >> > =95 Promoting a stronger and more robust infrastructure that cou= ld >> allow remote areas to gain access to the Internet in an easy and afforda= ble >> manner. >> > =95 Promoting reforms and measures to grant allow the private >> sector to operate facilities, protocols and standards including but not >> limited to IXPs, DNSSec, IPV6, that promote healthy competition to provi= de >> better services to the public. >> > =95 Supporting governmental efforts to establish e-government >> projects to provide citizens with easier access to various public servic= es. >> > =95 Participating in decision-making processes on all levels tha= t >> involve Internet services so as to promote the interests of Internet use= rs. >> > =95 Expanding the use of the Internet by lowering costs, enhanci= ng >> quality of service, and providing a greater array of possibilities. >> > =95 Advocating freedom of expression online and opposing oppress= ive >> practices that could limit such freedom >> > =95 Building the capacity of ISOC Yemen members in internet >> governance issues, and keep them informed about national, regional and >> international internet affairs. >> > =95 Supporting the development of local content on the web. >> > =95 Promoting the growth and evolution of the Internet architect= ure >> . >> > =95 Initiating and supporting educational and research projects >> related to the Internet. >> > =95 Collection and dissemination of information related to the >> Internet, including histories and archives. >> > =95 Contributing to the localization and building cultural bridg= es >> between Yemen and other nations using the Internet. >> > >> > >> > D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter >> > For the first year after inauguration, the focus will be on the >> following areas and the given timelines: >> > Key priorities for the first quarter (months 1->3): >> > 1- Creating a not-for-profit entity to represent ISOC Yemen >> Chapter and give it the required official status and recognition to rece= ive >> tax-exempted funds to carry out its various activities. This includes >> renting an apartment, printing letterheads, creating a stamp, printing >> leaflets and other material necessary to introduce the event. >> > 2- Forming the Standing Committees that will execute the plan set >> up for the first year. >> > 3- Creating a PR campaign about ISOC Yemen Chapter. >> > 4- Preparing and organizing a conference introducing the chapter >> under the theme =91Internet in Yemen: Challenges and Prospects=92 >> > 5- Networking and visiting potential partners and supporters as >> well as future funders and member organizations that will be helpful in >> supporting the chapter=92s future activities. >> > Key priorities for the rest of the year (3-12): >> > 1- (months 3-12): Developing a series of workshops in areas >> related to: >> > a. Cyber security (best practices in dealing with malware= , >> hacking, DDoS, pirated software. etc.) >> > b. Internet for beginners (workshops for those who have >> just started using the Internet and need guidance) >> > c. Internet for intermediaries (providing tools and tips >> on using social networking, firewalls, online storage) >> > d. Website development (basic training in purchasing a >> hosting plan and starting a small-scale CMS- based website >> > 2- (months 6-12) Holding meetings with government officials on th= e >> needs and aspirations of Internet users so as to address issues related = to >> cost, speed, reliability, infrastructure, etc. >> > 3- (months 6-12) Launching media campaigns to raise awareness >> about Internet use as well as visiting educational institutes such as >> schools and universities and give lectures on the importance of Internet >> accessibility. >> > 4- (months 6-9) Writing proposals for projects that call for >> establishing e-government services in some sectors of the government (we >> shall start with small-scale operations and move to bigger ones in the n= ext >> years) >> > 5- (months 9-12) Preparing for the annual summit and preparing >> with surveys and questionnaires to be sent to members to set up the agen= da >> of the meeting and potential projects to be carried out in the next year= s >> towards achieving the goals of the chapter. >> > >> > >> > E. Founding members of the Chapter >> > Below is the full list of the 31 founding members of ISOC Yemen >> Chapter. A meeting took place on July 3, 2013 with many of those foundin= g >> members and the plan, bylaws, resources, etc. were all agreed upon and i= t >> was also agreed that it was time to submit the application to ISOC for >> consideration. The list includes their names, affiliations and contact >> information as well as the username they used to register as individual >> members at Internet Society=92s website. >> > >> > Full Name, Affiliation & Location: >> > Abdellah Fayea, Engineer, Tafeel for IT Co. Ltd. - Sana=92a >> > Abdulsalam Arif, Student, U. of Science & Technology - Sana=92a >> > Abrahim Alahdal, IT Engineer, Yemen Net - Sana=92a >> > Adli Al-Kharasani, Trainer and activist (Sana=92a) >> > Ahmed Alashawl, Web Programmer, Yemen-Hosting - Sana=92a >> > Ahmed Almarwani, Logistics Assistant, WFP, Hodeidah >> > Ahmed Abdulsattar, Computer Engineer - Aden >> > Aiman Al-Wasai, System Analyst, Ibda'a Soft - Sana=92a >> > Akram AlMulsi, Marketing Manager, Yemen Net - Sana=92a >> > Ala=92a Assamawy, Lecturer, Sana=92a Community College =96 Sana=92a >> > Ameen Algithi, Freelancing network engineer - Sana=92a >> > Ammar Alareefi, Sana=92a University Student - Sana=92a >> > Amr Sattar, Network Assistant, Orient House - Sana=92a >> > Aws Aleryani, General Manager, Design Group - Sana=92a >> > Ebraheem Al-Moayed, TEDxSanaa Volunteer - Sana=92a >> > Hizam Alahdal, IT Engineer, Ministry of Telecom. Sana=92a >> > Ibtihal Muharram, Billing Support Engineer =96 Y Telecom - Sana=92a >> > Madiha Kamal, Management Assistant & PR officer, AlKurby Co for Oil >> Services - Sana=92a >> > Mishaal Thabit, Security Engineer, Y. Telecom., Sana=92a >> > Mohamed Abdulmalek, YouTube clip presenter and producer (Coosh Malek), >> Sana=92a >> > Mona Alhadadi, Radio anchor on Yemen FM - Sana=92a >> > Mulk Khaleel, Software engineer, Yemen Soft - Sana=92a >> > Nagib Abse, Executive Manager, Socotra Holidays - Socotra >> > Osama Mostafa, Software developer, WHO - Sana=92a >> > Sami Qhtani, Trainer, General Telecom. Institute - Hodeidah >> > Waleed Saleh, Charging Engineer, Y Telecom - Sana=92a >> > Walid Al-Saqaf, University Lecturer & Software Developer (Sana=92a, Ye= men >> and Orebro, Sweden) >> > Yusri Alathwari, CEO of Warzan E-Marketing - Sana=92a >> > Zakaria Alaya, Freelance designer and photographer - Sana=92a >> > Zakaria AlKainai, Software Developer - Sana=92a >> > Mohammed Rashed Al-Dhaifi, Head of System and Hosting Department - , >> Yemen Net - Sana=92a >> > >> > >> > F. List of supporters and partner organizations >> > Below is a list of organizations and bodies will believe will be >> supporting or partnering with our chapter. We have established prelimina= ry >> contacts with those organizations and have received encouraging statemen= ts >> of support from key staff members once ISOC Yemen Chapter is launched. >> > - Corporate >> > =95 YemenNet =96 Official Internet Service Provider for = Yemen >> (Run by Ministry of Telecommunication) >> > =95 TeleYemen =96 Registrar of .ye domains and internati= onal >> carrier >> > - Educational >> > =95 Computer Science Department =96 Sana=92a University >> > =95 General Telecommunication Institute >> > =95 Darassalam International University >> > =95 University of Modern Sciences >> > =95 Limkokwing University (Yemen). >> > - Private Sector >> > =95 Sahafa.net =96 Yemen=92s most widely viewed website = (news >> aggregator) >> > =95 Warazan =96 An e-marketing and e-commerce portal >> > =95 Design Group =96 For website design and development >> > =95 Yemen Sat =96 VSAT Service provider for Yemen >> > - Civil Society >> > =95 Lawyers Syndicate =96 advocating for Internet access= as >> one of its main points of their concern >> > =95 Teachers Syndicate =96 advocating for Internet acces= s to >> schools including staff and students >> > =95 Labor Union =96 advocating for reducing cost of acce= ss to >> laborers >> > =95 International organizations (there are several >> international organizations and bodies that will be approached for suppo= rt >> including UNDP, Oxfam, Mercy Corp) for support in projects that involve >> using the Internet for development >> > =95 Democracy School in Yemen =96 advocating promoting >> democracy by expanding access to the Internet to all sectors of the Yeme= ni >> population >> > =95 Yemeni Women Union =96 advocating for gender equalit= y in >> access to the Internet >> > =95 Youth Leadership Development foundation (YLDF) for >> support in projects that involve using the Internet for development, als= o >> advocating for gender equality in access to the internet. >> > =95 Yemeni Association for IT (yait.org) >> > >> > >> > G. Membership >> > Members will be invited to join through a number of methods including >> the following: >> > - Social networking: A Facebook page will be created to invite >> members and ask them to join by indicating the benefits and dues to join >> > - Media coverage: Some of the founding members have good >> connections to the media and they will be producing news reports and pre= ss >> releases about the chapter and will use the media to invite members to j= oin >> and support the chapter. >> > - The conference to kick start the activities of ISOC Yemen >> Chapter will be a great opportunity to introduce the chapter to potentia= l >> members and call upon attendees to sign up for membership on the spot an= d >> introduce them to the Internet Society as well as ISOC Yemen Chapter. >> > - Various training activities that will involve non-members will >> be used to attract members and explain to them the advantage of joining >> > - Students will be approached via university and high school >> visits and banners as well as other similar activities to invite them to >> join, indicating the 50% discount for full-time students. >> > - There will also be other creative methods to get members to >> join and those will be developed and encouraged as time progresses. >> > >> > >> > H. List of requirements >> > The requirements to form a not-for-profit organization includes having >> all the required documents (application, bylaws, etc.) plus a fee and a >> bank deposit of around $5,000 (YR 1 million). There is also an annual >> renewal fee of less than $100. The founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapte= r >> would also be the founding members of the organization. >> > >> > >> > I. Additional information >> > Yemen is among the countries that are well below the world average in >> terms of Internet penetration and quality of service. The Web Index 2012 >> showed Yemen on the bottom of all surveyed countries, reflecting an urge= nt >> need to help improve Internet services and expand access to the whole >> population. The poor infrastructure, stringent regulations, slow speed, = low >> bandwidth, low awareness, service monopoly, and high costs are some of t= he >> obstacles keeping the Internet from growing and prospering in the countr= y. >> Although there were a few ad-hoc events and appeals to address those sev= ere >> problems, there was really no institutional effort to do so and we feel >> that ISOC Yemen Chapter could be the real start of such an effort. >> > Our efforts will focus primarily on making the Internet used more >> effectively to serve development and progress and to make it more >> accessible, free and of high quality by pursuing the goals set forth in = the >> application and bylaws. Luckily, Yemen has a large youth population that= is >> increasingly interested in using the Internet for various purposes such = as >> education, career advancement, work, etc. and hence, ISOC Yemen Chapter >> comes at a very good time to help bring the Internet to its true potenti= al >> for Yemen=92s development. >> > >> > >> > J. Your contact information > >> > Name: Walid Al-Saqaf >> > Affiliation: Director/Founder, Alkasir (alkasir.com) - Lecturer, >> Orebro University >> > Yemen >> > >> > ---------------------- >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribe= d >> > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Societ= y >> > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > --------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >> > WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >> > http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >> > VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >> > -------------------------------------------------------------- >> > - >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribe= d >> > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Societ= y >> > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > > > > ------------------------------ > Universiti Utara Malaysia Official Website http://www.uum.edu.my > > Disclaimer: > This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential > information. 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Dear Suhaidi,
I did ask the same question during ISOC workshop at INET Qatar and it=C2=A0= was said that they are not allowed for the same reason that you mentioned.=
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Best regard,
Nadira
ISOC Palestine

On Jul 27, 2013 9:55 AM, "Dr. Suhaidi B Has= san" <suhaidi at uum.edu.my&= gt; wrote:

Dear Hanna, Sabrina,

During my trip to Khartoum, Sudan recently, I have also seen growing intere= st on forming an ISOC chapter there. But I wonder if Sudanese colleagues ar= e allowed to form a chapter there since the country is on the US list of em= bargoed countries.=C2=A0

Regards,

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On 27 Jul, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Hanna Kreitem <hannaq at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sabrina,
Thank you for the update, and best of luck to the Yemen chapter, they seem = to be eager and willing to work on Internet issues in Yemen, which can lead= as a sample for other similar countries. Kindly pass a note to them that I= am willing to provide all the help possible, and I am sure the rest of the community is willing to as well. <= /p>
Regards,
Hanna.

On 26 Jul 2013 18:20, "Sabrina Wilmot"= <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:

Dear Hanna, dear Joly,

Thanks again for your questions regarding this application. Please find bel= ow the information as provided by the founding members of this Chapter:

[=E2=80=A6]
1) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Concerning the geographi= cal representation of founding members:

We have strived to spread the word and contact all people we know as potent= ial founding members and succeeded in getting representatives from 6 other = provinces apart from Sana=E2=80=99a. The core group is in Sana=E2=80=99a is= basically due to the fact that it is the capital city and has over 80% of the activities, initiatives, and working ground f= or Internet-related activities. There are other big cities like Aden and Ta= iz, and many of the members =E2=80=93including myself- are originally from = those provinces and have good contacts there. However, Internet services are very limited in most other cities and in so= me regions, there is barely any internet connectivity due to extremely poor= infrastructure.

Through the social network group on Facebook and by using the resources and= capabilities with founding members, we sought potential members through th= eir own connections. We have attempted to reach out to potential founding m= embers from other provinces but we found very few people that were aware of ISOC and some were not even we= ll acquainted with the Internet at large.

For a country with such a low penetration like Yemen, it would be best to u= se traditional media and other means to introduce ISOC and invite potential= members to join but this would not be possible until we get the actual lic= ense.

We have devised a plan to create the ground for expanding to target less co= nnected provinces and regions that need support to improve Internet connect= ivity. We believe that it is important to take the first step starting from= Sana=E2=80=99a and adding more members from other regions as we grow because the initiative is indeed a national = one and covers the whole country.

To achieve greater geographical representation, we have the following plans= in place:

a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Upon the launch of ISOC-Yemen, we plan to launch an offici= al gathering in Sana=E2=80=99a with all founding members present and media = invited to cover the event. There we will send press releases to as many pa= rties possible so as to inform residents in various provinces about the initiative and invite members to join.
b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Among our projects is to hold regional activities and meet= ings to introduce ISOC-Yemen and let people sign up on the spot and inform = them of the benefits of joining and how together we could work to achieve = =C2=A0its goals
c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Apart from those meetings, member recruitment activities w= ill include:
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0visiting colleges, schools, and giving present= ations;
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0publishing announcements and news items in the= media (print, radio) inviting members to apply
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0using various projects (workshops, conferences= , etc.) as a means to recruit new members

In essence, we are eager to have ISOC-Yemen be inclusive and have represent= atives across Yemen but find that starting with this group of founding memb= ers will be a good start, especially as it is now high time to form such an= entity given the rapid growth of Internet usage.

2) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Opportunities for fundin= g ISOC-Yemen and creating sustainable income

We certainly have a plan for the first year to find sources of funding and = means of sustaining our operations and implement our projects. There are se= veral avenues that we see most fitting to achieve that:

1) =C2=A0We have agreed on having membership fees of YR 2,000 ($10) per mon= th per member. We will be giving a discount 50% to students so they could a= fford joining. With over 30 committed members from the start, this would co= nstitute $300 per month, which is good enough to pay for the rent of a small apartment and as we get more members= , we will be able to cover other expenses such as accessories, furniture, p= rinting material, etc.
2) =C2=A0We have good connections with several national agencies that suppo= rt such initiatives. Among them is the Social Development Fund, which could= provide capacity building funds to help furnish our apartment, buy equipme= nt, and cover costs of basic services such as Internet and power.
3) =C2=A0We can use the resources of the founding members as means of intro= ducing ISOC-Yemen and creating visibility. Some founding members have pledg= ed to provide space on their prominent websites, provide office space, and = other available resources such as computers and other equipment
4) =C2=A0Partners, businesses and international organizations will be appro= ached to help fund workshops and seminars related to Internet issues and so= me of the budgets will be allocated for capacity building and purchasing eq= uipment and accessories that could be used for future activities.
5) =C2=A0Administrative fees to be paid to ISOC-Yemen for running projects = (trainings, field work, researching Internet-related subjects, etc.) will b= e an added source of income to sustain ISOC-Yemen and help it be productive= and creative.
6) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ISOC-Yemen Chapter takes into consideration that all its p= rojects should have an element of sustainability in its activities. This is= achieved by making the training programs, researches, and other consultanc= y services paid by the candidates and beneficiaries seeking admission in it. This sector of Chapter generates income that cove= rs some of the running costs of Chapter.

In essence, we feel confident that the financial aspect of ISOC-Yemen will = be safe and sustainability will not be an issue provided that the commitmen= ts shown by founding members and partners will be kept and because the whol= e country is really witnessing a booming Internet-driven period with many good and positive prospects for s= uccess.

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Kind regards,
Sabrina Wilmot
Internet Society

On 22 Jul 2013, at 09:15, Hanna Kreitem wrote:

> Dear Sabrina,
>
> I happen to know one of the founding members, Ahmed AlMarwani, we have= volunteered together at Arab Digital Expression Camps, summer camps that e= xpose Arab youth to freedom of expression, use of technology in expression,= and open culture. He was a dedicated person with interest in human rights and freedom of expression.
>
> I have a comment on the application regarding funding, there doesn'= ;t seem to be a clear plan on how will they fund their activities, is this = required with the application?
>
> Regards,
> Hanna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
> Hi Sabrina,
>
> I have in fact spent an extended period of my youth in Yemen, in Aden.= A time I remember fondly.
>
> I notice that all the founding members are based in Sana'a. I wond= er if there could be some representation from Aden, or whether there might = be a possibility for a separate or sub chapter to later be established ther= e.
>
> joly
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> The following application for a Chapter in Yemen has been received. It= is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.
> Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially = been recognised by the Internet Society.
> If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing t= o establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 3 Aug= ust 2013.
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
>
> Thanks,
> Sabrina Wilmot
> Manager, Chapter Formation
> Internet Society
>
> -------------------------------
>
> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
> ISOC Yemen Chapter (short for Internet Society Yemen Chapter)
>
>
> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
> Anyone in Yemen as well Yemeni expatriates abroad could become part of= the community of interest.
>
>
> C. Purpose and scope of Chapter
> The chapter will be serving the interests of the Internet users by pur= suing the following key areas within the boundaries of Yemen as its scope:<= br> > =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Raising awareness among the public abou= t the benefits of using the Internet and good practices that would minimize= security and other risks to end users as well as promoting the efficient c= onsumption of bandwidth.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Encouraging websites to implement new s= ervices (applies to governmental, commerce, educational, cultural and other= service-oriented websites) and hold contests to recognized distinguished w= ebsites.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting technical solutions to obstac= les preventing effective use of the Internet such as slow speed, malware, e= tc.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Providing opportunities for training, e= ducation, networking and knowledge sharing.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cooperating and partnering with entitie= s from the government, civil society, private sector, international communi= ty and others to promote the free and effective use to the Internet for the= benefit of the society.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting a stronger and more robust in= frastructure that could allow remote areas to gain access to the Internet i= n an easy and affordable manner.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting reforms and measures to grant= allow the private sector to operate facilities, protocols and standards in= cluding but not limited to IXPs, DNSSec, IPV6, that promote healthy competi= tion to provide better services to the public.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting governmental efforts to esta= blish e-government projects to provide citizens with easier access to vario= us public services.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Participating in decision-making proces= ses on all levels that involve Internet services so as to promote the inter= ests of Internet users.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Expanding the use of the Internet by lo= wering costs, enhancing quality of service, and providing a greater array o= f possibilities.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Advocating freedom of expression online= and opposing oppressive practices that could limit such freedom
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Building the capacity of ISOC Yemen mem= bers in internet governance issues, and keep them informed about national, = regional and international internet affairs.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting the development of local con= tent on the web.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting the growth and evolution of t= he Internet architecture .
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initiating and supporting educational a= nd research projects related to the Internet.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Collection and dissemination of informa= tion related to the Internet, including histories and archives.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Contributing to the localization and bu= ilding cultural bridges between Yemen and other nations using the Internet.=
>
>
> D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter
> For the first year after inauguration, the focus will be on the follow= ing areas and the given timelines:
> Key priorities for the first quarter (months 1->3):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a not-for-profit entity to represent I= SOC Yemen Chapter and give it the required official status and recognition = to receive tax-exempted funds to carry out its various activities. This inc= ludes renting an apartment, printing letterheads, creating a stamp, printing leaflets and other material necessary to introd= uce the event.
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Forming the Standing Committees that will execu= te the plan set up for the first year.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a PR campaign about ISOC Yemen Chapter= .
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Preparing and organizing a conference introduci= ng the chapter under the theme =E2=80=98Internet in Yemen: Challenges and P= rospects=E2=80=99
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Networking and visiting potential partners and = supporters as well as future funders and member organizations that will be = helpful in supporting the chapter=E2=80=99s future activities.
> Key priorities for the rest of the year (3-12):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 3-12): Developing a series of workshops= in areas related to:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cyber security (bes= t practices in dealing with malware, hacking, DDoS, pirated software. etc.)=
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for beginn= ers (workshops for those who have just started using the Internet and need = guidance)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for interm= ediaries (providing tools and tips on using social networking, firewalls, o= nline storage)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 d. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Website development= (basic training in purchasing a hosting plan and starting a small-scale CM= S- based website
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Holding meetings with government = officials on the needs and aspirations of Internet users so as to address i= ssues related to cost, speed, reliability, infrastructure, etc.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Launching media campaigns to rais= e awareness about Internet use as well as visiting educational institutes s= uch as schools and universities and give lectures on the importance of Inte= rnet accessibility.
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-9) Writing proposals for projects tha= t call for establishing e-government services in some sectors of the govern= ment (we shall start with small-scale operations and move to bigger ones in= the next years)
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 9-12) Preparing for the annual summit a= nd preparing with surveys and questionnaires to be sent to members to set u= p the agenda of the meeting and potential projects to be carried out in the= next years towards achieving the goals of the chapter.
>
>
> E. Founding members of the Chapter
> Below is the full list of the 31 founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapte= r. A meeting took place on July 3, 2013 with many of those founding members= and the plan, bylaws, resources, etc. were all agreed upon and it was also= agreed that it was time to submit the application to ISOC for consideration. The list includes their names, = affiliations and contact information as well as the username they used to r= egister as individual members at Internet Society=E2=80=99s website.
>
> Full Name, Affiliation & Location:
> Abdellah Fayea, Engineer, Tafeel for IT Co. Ltd. - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Abdulsalam Arif, Student, U. of Science & Technology - Sana=E2=80= =99a
> Abrahim Alahdal, IT Engineer, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Adli Al-Kharasani, Trainer and activist (Sana=E2=80=99a)
> Ahmed Alashawl, Web Programmer, Yemen-Hosting - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ahmed Almarwani, Logistics Assistant, WFP, Hodeidah
> Ahmed Abdulsattar, Computer Engineer - Aden
> Aiman Al-Wasai, System Analyst, Ibda'a Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Akram AlMulsi, Marketing Manager, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ala=E2=80=99a Assamawy, Lecturer, Sana=E2=80=99a Community College =E2= =80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ameen Algithi, Freelancing network engineer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ammar Alareefi, Sana=E2=80=99a University Student - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Amr Sattar, Network Assistant, Orient House - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Aws Aleryani, General Manager, Design Group - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ebraheem Al-Moayed, TEDxSanaa Volunteer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Hizam Alahdal, IT Engineer, Ministry of Telecom. Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ibtihal Muharram, Billing Support Engineer =E2=80=93 Y Telecom - Sana= =E2=80=99a
> Madiha Kamal, Management Assistant & PR officer, AlKurby Co for Oi= l Services - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mishaal Thabit, Security Engineer, Y. Telecom., Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohamed Abdulmalek, YouTube clip presenter and producer (Coosh Malek),= Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mona Alhadadi, Radio anchor on Yemen FM - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mulk Khaleel, Software engineer, Yemen Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Nagib Abse, Executive Manager, Socotra Holidays - Socotra
> Osama Mostafa, Software developer, WHO - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Sami Qhtani, Trainer, General Telecom. Institute - Hodeidah
> Waleed Saleh, Charging Engineer, Y Telecom - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Walid Al-Saqaf, University Lecturer & Software Developer (Sana=E2= =80=99a, Yemen and Orebro, Sweden)
> Yusri Alathwari, CEO of Warzan E-Marketing - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Zakaria Alaya, Freelance designer and photographer - Sana=E2=80=99a > Zakaria AlKainai, Software Developer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohammed Rashed Al-Dhaifi, =C2=A0Head of System and Hosting Department= - , Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
>
>
> F. List of supporters and partner organizations
> Below is a list of organizations and bodies will believe will be suppo= rting or partnering with our chapter. We have established preliminary conta= cts with those organizations and have received encouraging statements of su= pport from key staff members once ISOC Yemen Chapter is launched.
> - Corporate
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 YemenNet = =E2=80=93 Official Internet Service Provider for Yemen (Run by Ministry of = Telecommunication)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TeleYemen = =E2=80=93 Registrar of .ye domains and international carrier
> - Educational
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Computer Sc= ience Department =E2=80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 General Tel= ecommunication Institute
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Darassalam = International University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 University = of Modern Sciences
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Limkokwing = University (Yemen).
> - Private Sector
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sahafa.net =E2=80=93 Yemen=E2=80= =99s most widely viewed website (news aggregator)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Warazan =E2= =80=93 An e-marketing and e-commerce portal
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Design Grou= p =E2=80=93 For website design and development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemen Sat = =E2=80=93 VSAT Service provider for Yemen
> - Civil Society
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Lawyers Syn= dicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access as one of its main points o= f their concern
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Teachers Sy= ndicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access to schools including staff= and students
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Labor Union= =E2=80=93 advocating for reducing cost of access to laborers
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Internation= al organizations (there are several international organizations and bodies = that will be approached for support including UNDP, Oxfam, Mercy Corp) for = support in projects that involve using the Internet for development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Democracy S= chool in Yemen =E2=80=93 advocating promoting democracy by expanding access= to the Internet to all sectors of the Yemeni population
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Wome= n Union =E2=80=93 advocating for gender equality in access to the Internet<= br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Youth Leade= rship Development foundation (YLDF) for support in projects that involve us= ing the Internet for development, also advocating for gender equality in ac= cess to the internet.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Asso= ciation for IT (yait.org= )
>
>
> G. Membership
> Members will be invited to join through a number of methods including = the following:
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Social networking: A Facebook page will be crea= ted to invite members and ask them to join by indicating the benefits and d= ues to join
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Media coverage: Some of the founding members ha= ve good connections to the media and they will be producing news reports an= d press releases about the chapter and will use the media to invite members= to join and support the chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The conference to kick start the activities of = ISOC Yemen Chapter will be a great opportunity to introduce the chapter to = potential members and call upon attendees to sign up for membership on the = spot and introduce them to the Internet Society as well as ISOC Yemen Chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Various training activities that will involve n= on-members will be used to attract members and explain to them the advantag= e of joining
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Students will be approached via university and = high school visits and banners as well as other similar activities to invit= e them to join, indicating the 50% discount for full-time students.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 There will also be other creative methods to ge= t members to join and those will be developed and encouraged as time progre= sses.
>
>
> H. List of requirements
> The requirements to form a not-for-profit organization includes having= all the required documents (application, bylaws, etc.) plus a fee and a ba= nk deposit of around $5,000 (YR 1 million). There is also an annual renewal= fee of less than $100. The founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapter would also be the founding members of the or= ganization.
>
>
> I. Additional information
> Yemen is among the countries that are well below the world average in = terms of Internet penetration and quality of service. The Web Index 2012 sh= owed Yemen on the bottom of all surveyed countries, reflecting an urgent ne= ed to help improve Internet services and expand access to the whole population. The poor infrastructure, string= ent regulations, slow speed, low bandwidth, low awareness, service monopoly= , and high costs are some of the obstacles keeping the Internet from growin= g and prospering in the country. Although there were a few ad-hoc events and appeals to address those sever= e problems, there was really no institutional effort to do so and we feel t= hat ISOC Yemen Chapter could be the real start of such an effort.
> Our efforts will focus primarily on making the Internet used more effe= ctively to serve development and progress and to make it more accessible, f= ree and of high quality by pursuing the goals set forth in the application = and bylaws. Luckily, Yemen has a large youth population that is increasingly interested in using the Internet for= various purposes such as education, career advancement, work, etc. and hen= ce, ISOC Yemen Chapter comes at a very good time to help bring the Internet= to its true potential for Yemen=E2=80=99s development.
>
>
> J. Your contact information=E2=80=A8>
> Name: Walid Al-Saqaf
> Affiliation: Director/Founder, Alkasir (alkasir.com) - Lecturer, Orebro University
> Yemen
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Best regard,
Nadira
ISOC Palestine

On Jul 27, 2013 9:55 AM, "Dr. Suhaidi B Has= san" <suhai= di at uum.edu.my> wrote:

Dear Hanna, Sabrina,

During my trip to Khartoum, Sudan recently, I have also seen growing intere= st on forming an ISOC chapter there. But I wonder if Sudanese colleagues ar= e allowed to form a chapter there since the country is on the US list of em= bargoed countries.=C2=A0

Regards,

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On 27 Jul, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Hanna Kreitem <hannaq at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sabrina,
Thank you for the update, and best of luck to the Yemen chapter, they seem = to be eager and willing to work on Internet issues in Yemen, which can lead= as a sample for other similar countries. Kindly pass a note to them that I= am willing to provide all the help possible, and I am sure the rest of the community is willing to as well. <= /p>
Regards,
Hanna.

On 26 Jul 2013 18:20, "Sabrina Wilmot"= <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:

Dear Hanna, dear Joly,

Thanks again for your questions regarding this application. Please find bel= ow the information as provided by the founding members of this Chapter:

[=E2=80=A6]
1) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Concerning the geographi= cal representation of founding members:

We have strived to spread the word and contact all people we know as potent= ial founding members and succeeded in getting representatives from 6 other = provinces apart from Sana=E2=80=99a. The core group is in Sana=E2=80=99a is= basically due to the fact that it is the capital city and has over 80% of the activities, initiatives, and working ground f= or Internet-related activities. There are other big cities like Aden and Ta= iz, and many of the members =E2=80=93including myself- are originally from = those provinces and have good contacts there. However, Internet services are very limited in most other cities and in so= me regions, there is barely any internet connectivity due to extremely poor= infrastructure.

Through the social network group on Facebook and by using the resources and= capabilities with founding members, we sought potential members through th= eir own connections. We have attempted to reach out to potential founding m= embers from other provinces but we found very few people that were aware of ISOC and some were not even we= ll acquainted with the Internet at large.

For a country with such a low penetration like Yemen, it would be best to u= se traditional media and other means to introduce ISOC and invite potential= members to join but this would not be possible until we get the actual lic= ense.

We have devised a plan to create the ground for expanding to target less co= nnected provinces and regions that need support to improve Internet connect= ivity. We believe that it is important to take the first step starting from= Sana=E2=80=99a and adding more members from other regions as we grow because the initiative is indeed a national = one and covers the whole country.

To achieve greater geographical representation, we have the following plans= in place:

a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Upon the launch of ISOC-Yemen, we plan to launch an offici= al gathering in Sana=E2=80=99a with all founding members present and media = invited to cover the event. There we will send press releases to as many pa= rties possible so as to inform residents in various provinces about the initiative and invite members to join.
b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Among our projects is to hold regional activities and meet= ings to introduce ISOC-Yemen and let people sign up on the spot and inform = them of the benefits of joining and how together we could work to achieve = =C2=A0its goals
c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Apart from those meetings, member recruitment activities w= ill include:
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0visiting colleges, schools, and giving present= ations;
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0publishing announcements and news items in the= media (print, radio) inviting members to apply
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0using various projects (workshops, conferences= , etc.) as a means to recruit new members

In essence, we are eager to have ISOC-Yemen be inclusive and have represent= atives across Yemen but find that starting with this group of founding memb= ers will be a good start, especially as it is now high time to form such an= entity given the rapid growth of Internet usage.

2) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Opportunities for fundin= g ISOC-Yemen and creating sustainable income

We certainly have a plan for the first year to find sources of funding and = means of sustaining our operations and implement our projects. There are se= veral avenues that we see most fitting to achieve that:

1) =C2=A0We have agreed on having membership fees of YR 2,000 ($10) per mon= th per member. We will be giving a discount 50% to students so they could a= fford joining. With over 30 committed members from the start, this would co= nstitute $300 per month, which is good enough to pay for the rent of a small apartment and as we get more members= , we will be able to cover other expenses such as accessories, furniture, p= rinting material, etc.
2) =C2=A0We have good connections with several national agencies that suppo= rt such initiatives. Among them is the Social Development Fund, which could= provide capacity building funds to help furnish our apartment, buy equipme= nt, and cover costs of basic services such as Internet and power.
3) =C2=A0We can use the resources of the founding members as means of intro= ducing ISOC-Yemen and creating visibility. Some founding members have pledg= ed to provide space on their prominent websites, provide office space, and = other available resources such as computers and other equipment
4) =C2=A0Partners, businesses and international organizations will be appro= ached to help fund workshops and seminars related to Internet issues and so= me of the budgets will be allocated for capacity building and purchasing eq= uipment and accessories that could be used for future activities.
5) =C2=A0Administrative fees to be paid to ISOC-Yemen for running projects = (trainings, field work, researching Internet-related subjects, etc.) will b= e an added source of income to sustain ISOC-Yemen and help it be productive= and creative.
6) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ISOC-Yemen Chapter takes into consideration that all its p= rojects should have an element of sustainability in its activities. This is= achieved by making the training programs, researches, and other consultanc= y services paid by the candidates and beneficiaries seeking admission in it. This sector of Chapter generates income that cove= rs some of the running costs of Chapter.

In essence, we feel confident that the financial aspect of ISOC-Yemen will = be safe and sustainability will not be an issue provided that the commitmen= ts shown by founding members and partners will be kept and because the whol= e country is really witnessing a booming Internet-driven period with many good and positive prospects for s= uccess.

[=E2=80=A6]

Kind regards,
Sabrina Wilmot
Internet Society

On 22 Jul 2013, at 09:15, Hanna Kreitem wrote:

> Dear Sabrina,
>
> I happen to know one of the founding members, Ahmed AlMarwani, we have= volunteered together at Arab Digital Expression Camps, summer camps that e= xpose Arab youth to freedom of expression, use of technology in expression,= and open culture. He was a dedicated person with interest in human rights and freedom of expression.
>
> I have a comment on the application regarding funding, there doesn'= ;t seem to be a clear plan on how will they fund their activities, is this = required with the application?
>
> Regards,
> Hanna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
> Hi Sabrina,
>
> I have in fact spent an extended period of my youth in Yemen, in Aden.= A time I remember fondly.
>
> I notice that all the founding members are based in Sana'a. I wond= er if there could be some representation from Aden, or whether there might = be a possibility for a separate or sub chapter to later be established ther= e.
>
> joly
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> The following application for a Chapter in Yemen has been received. It= is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.
> Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially = been recognised by the Internet Society.
> If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing t= o establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 3 Aug= ust 2013.
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
>
> Thanks,
> Sabrina Wilmot
> Manager, Chapter Formation
> Internet Society
>
> -------------------------------
>
> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
> ISOC Yemen Chapter (short for Internet Society Yemen Chapter)
>
>
> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
> Anyone in Yemen as well Yemeni expatriates abroad could become part of= the community of interest.
>
>
> C. Purpose and scope of Chapter
> The chapter will be serving the interests of the Internet users by pur= suing the following key areas within the boundaries of Yemen as its scope:<= br> > =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Raising awareness among the public abou= t the benefits of using the Internet and good practices that would minimize= security and other risks to end users as well as promoting the efficient c= onsumption of bandwidth.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Encouraging websites to implement new s= ervices (applies to governmental, commerce, educational, cultural and other= service-oriented websites) and hold contests to recognized distinguished w= ebsites.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting technical solutions to obstac= les preventing effective use of the Internet such as slow speed, malware, e= tc.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Providing opportunities for training, e= ducation, networking and knowledge sharing.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cooperating and partnering with entitie= s from the government, civil society, private sector, international communi= ty and others to promote the free and effective use to the Internet for the= benefit of the society.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting a stronger and more robust in= frastructure that could allow remote areas to gain access to the Internet i= n an easy and affordable manner.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting reforms and measures to grant= allow the private sector to operate facilities, protocols and standards in= cluding but not limited to IXPs, DNSSec, IPV6, that promote healthy competi= tion to provide better services to the public.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting governmental efforts to esta= blish e-government projects to provide citizens with easier access to vario= us public services.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Participating in decision-making proces= ses on all levels that involve Internet services so as to promote the inter= ests of Internet users.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Expanding the use of the Internet by lo= wering costs, enhancing quality of service, and providing a greater array o= f possibilities.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Advocating freedom of expression online= and opposing oppressive practices that could limit such freedom
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Building the capacity of ISOC Yemen mem= bers in internet governance issues, and keep them informed about national, = regional and international internet affairs.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting the development of local con= tent on the web.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting the growth and evolution of t= he Internet architecture .
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initiating and supporting educational a= nd research projects related to the Internet.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Collection and dissemination of informa= tion related to the Internet, including histories and archives.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Contributing to the localization and bu= ilding cultural bridges between Yemen and other nations using the Internet.=
>
>
> D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter
> For the first year after inauguration, the focus will be on the follow= ing areas and the given timelines:
> Key priorities for the first quarter (months 1->3):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a not-for-profit entity to represent I= SOC Yemen Chapter and give it the required official status and recognition = to receive tax-exempted funds to carry out its various activities. This inc= ludes renting an apartment, printing letterheads, creating a stamp, printing leaflets and other material necessary to introd= uce the event.
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Forming the Standing Committees that will execu= te the plan set up for the first year.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a PR campaign about ISOC Yemen Chapter= .
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Preparing and organizing a conference introduci= ng the chapter under the theme =E2=80=98Internet in Yemen: Challenges and P= rospects=E2=80=99
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Networking and visiting potential partners and = supporters as well as future funders and member organizations that will be = helpful in supporting the chapter=E2=80=99s future activities.
> Key priorities for the rest of the year (3-12):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 3-12): Developing a series of workshops= in areas related to:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cyber security (bes= t practices in dealing with malware, hacking, DDoS, pirated software. etc.)=
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for beginn= ers (workshops for those who have just started using the Internet and need = guidance)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for interm= ediaries (providing tools and tips on using social networking, firewalls, o= nline storage)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 d. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Website development= (basic training in purchasing a hosting plan and starting a small-scale CM= S- based website
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Holding meetings with government = officials on the needs and aspirations of Internet users so as to address i= ssues related to cost, speed, reliability, infrastructure, etc.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Launching media campaigns to rais= e awareness about Internet use as well as visiting educational institutes s= uch as schools and universities and give lectures on the importance of Inte= rnet accessibility.
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-9) Writing proposals for projects tha= t call for establishing e-government services in some sectors of the govern= ment (we shall start with small-scale operations and move to bigger ones in= the next years)
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 9-12) Preparing for the annual summit a= nd preparing with surveys and questionnaires to be sent to members to set u= p the agenda of the meeting and potential projects to be carried out in the= next years towards achieving the goals of the chapter.
>
>
> E. Founding members of the Chapter
> Below is the full list of the 31 founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapte= r. A meeting took place on July 3, 2013 with many of those founding members= and the plan, bylaws, resources, etc. were all agreed upon and it was also= agreed that it was time to submit the application to ISOC for consideration. The list includes their names, = affiliations and contact information as well as the username they used to r= egister as individual members at Internet Society=E2=80=99s website.
>
> Full Name, Affiliation & Location:
> Abdellah Fayea, Engineer, Tafeel for IT Co. Ltd. - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Abdulsalam Arif, Student, U. of Science & Technology - Sana=E2=80= =99a
> Abrahim Alahdal, IT Engineer, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Adli Al-Kharasani, Trainer and activist (Sana=E2=80=99a)
> Ahmed Alashawl, Web Programmer, Yemen-Hosting - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ahmed Almarwani, Logistics Assistant, WFP, Hodeidah
> Ahmed Abdulsattar, Computer Engineer - Aden
> Aiman Al-Wasai, System Analyst, Ibda'a Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Akram AlMulsi, Marketing Manager, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ala=E2=80=99a Assamawy, Lecturer, Sana=E2=80=99a Community College =E2= =80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ameen Algithi, Freelancing network engineer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ammar Alareefi, Sana=E2=80=99a University Student - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Amr Sattar, Network Assistant, Orient House - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Aws Aleryani, General Manager, Design Group - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ebraheem Al-Moayed, TEDxSanaa Volunteer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Hizam Alahdal, IT Engineer, Ministry of Telecom. Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ibtihal Muharram, Billing Support Engineer =E2=80=93 Y Telecom - Sana= =E2=80=99a
> Madiha Kamal, Management Assistant & PR officer, AlKurby Co for Oi= l Services - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mishaal Thabit, Security Engineer, Y. Telecom., Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohamed Abdulmalek, YouTube clip presenter and producer (Coosh Malek),= Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mona Alhadadi, Radio anchor on Yemen FM - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mulk Khaleel, Software engineer, Yemen Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Nagib Abse, Executive Manager, Socotra Holidays - Socotra
> Osama Mostafa, Software developer, WHO - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Sami Qhtani, Trainer, General Telecom. Institute - Hodeidah
> Waleed Saleh, Charging Engineer, Y Telecom - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Walid Al-Saqaf, University Lecturer & Software Developer (Sana=E2= =80=99a, Yemen and Orebro, Sweden)
> Yusri Alathwari, CEO of Warzan E-Marketing - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Zakaria Alaya, Freelance designer and photographer - Sana=E2=80=99a > Zakaria AlKainai, Software Developer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohammed Rashed Al-Dhaifi, =C2=A0Head of System and Hosting Department= - , Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
>
>
> F. List of supporters and partner organizations
> Below is a list of organizations and bodies will believe will be suppo= rting or partnering with our chapter. We have established preliminary conta= cts with those organizations and have received encouraging statements of su= pport from key staff members once ISOC Yemen Chapter is launched.
> - Corporate
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 YemenNet = =E2=80=93 Official Internet Service Provider for Yemen (Run by Ministry of = Telecommunication)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TeleYemen = =E2=80=93 Registrar of .ye domains and international carrier
> - Educational
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Computer Sc= ience Department =E2=80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 General Tel= ecommunication Institute
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Darassalam = International University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 University = of Modern Sciences
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Limkokwing = University (Yemen).
> - Private Sector
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sahafa.net =E2=80=93 Yemen=E2=80= =99s most widely viewed website (news aggregator)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Warazan =E2= =80=93 An e-marketing and e-commerce portal
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Design Grou= p =E2=80=93 For website design and development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemen Sat = =E2=80=93 VSAT Service provider for Yemen
> - Civil Society
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Lawyers Syn= dicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access as one of its main points o= f their concern
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Teachers Sy= ndicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access to schools including staff= and students
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Labor Union= =E2=80=93 advocating for reducing cost of access to laborers
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Internation= al organizations (there are several international organizations and bodies = that will be approached for support including UNDP, Oxfam, Mercy Corp) for = support in projects that involve using the Internet for development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Democracy S= chool in Yemen =E2=80=93 advocating promoting democracy by expanding access= to the Internet to all sectors of the Yemeni population
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Wome= n Union =E2=80=93 advocating for gender equality in access to the Internet<= br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Youth Leade= rship Development foundation (YLDF) for support in projects that involve us= ing the Internet for development, also advocating for gender equality in ac= cess to the internet.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Asso= ciation for IT (yait.org= )
>
>
> G. Membership
> Members will be invited to join through a number of methods including = the following:
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Social networking: A Facebook page will be crea= ted to invite members and ask them to join by indicating the benefits and d= ues to join
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Media coverage: Some of the founding members ha= ve good connections to the media and they will be producing news reports an= d press releases about the chapter and will use the media to invite members= to join and support the chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The conference to kick start the activities of = ISOC Yemen Chapter will be a great opportunity to introduce the chapter to = potential members and call upon attendees to sign up for membership on the = spot and introduce them to the Internet Society as well as ISOC Yemen Chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Various training activities that will involve n= on-members will be used to attract members and explain to them the advantag= e of joining
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Students will be approached via university and = high school visits and banners as well as other similar activities to invit= e them to join, indicating the 50% discount for full-time students.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 There will also be other creative methods to ge= t members to join and those will be developed and encouraged as time progre= sses.
>
>
> H. List of requirements
> The requirements to form a not-for-profit organization includes having= all the required documents (application, bylaws, etc.) plus a fee and a ba= nk deposit of around $5,000 (YR 1 million). There is also an annual renewal= fee of less than $100. The founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapter would also be the founding members of the or= ganization.
>
>
> I. Additional information
> Yemen is among the countries that are well below the world average in = terms of Internet penetration and quality of service. The Web Index 2012 sh= owed Yemen on the bottom of all surveyed countries, reflecting an urgent ne= ed to help improve Internet services and expand access to the whole population. The poor infrastructure, string= ent regulations, slow speed, low bandwidth, low awareness, service monopoly= , and high costs are some of the obstacles keeping the Internet from growin= g and prospering in the country. Although there were a few ad-hoc events and appeals to address those sever= e problems, there was really no institutional effort to do so and we feel t= hat ISOC Yemen Chapter could be the real start of such an effort.
> Our efforts will focus primarily on making the Internet used more effe= ctively to serve development and progress and to make it more accessible, f= ree and of high quality by pursuing the goals set forth in the application = and bylaws. Luckily, Yemen has a large youth population that is increasingly interested in using the Internet for= various purposes such as education, career advancement, work, etc. and hen= ce, ISOC Yemen Chapter comes at a very good time to help bring the Internet= to its true potential for Yemen=E2=80=99s development.
>
>
> J. Your contact information=E2=80=A8>
> Name: Walid Al-Saqaf
> Affiliation: Director/Founder, Alkasir (alkasir.com) - Lecturer, Orebro University
> Yemen
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Best regard,
Nadira
ISOC Palestine

On Jul 27, 2013 9:55 AM, "Dr. Suhaidi B Has= san" <suhai= di at uum.edu.my> wrote:

Dear Hanna, Sabrina,

During my trip to Khartoum, Sudan recently, I have also seen growing intere= st on forming an ISOC chapter there. But I wonder if Sudanese colleagues ar= e allowed to form a chapter there since the country is on the US list of em= bargoed countries.=C2=A0

Regards,

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On 27 Jul, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Hanna Kreitem <hannaq at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sabrina,
Thank you for the update, and best of luck to the Yemen chapter, they seem = to be eager and willing to work on Internet issues in Yemen, which can lead= as a sample for other similar countries. Kindly pass a note to them that I= am willing to provide all the help possible, and I am sure the rest of the community is willing to as well. <= /p>
Regards,
Hanna.

On 26 Jul 2013 18:20, "Sabrina Wilmot"= <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:

Dear Hanna, dear Joly,

Thanks again for your questions regarding this application. Please find bel= ow the information as provided by the founding members of this Chapter:

[=E2=80=A6]
1) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Concerning the geographi= cal representation of founding members:

We have strived to spread the word and contact all people we know as potent= ial founding members and succeeded in getting representatives from 6 other = provinces apart from Sana=E2=80=99a. The core group is in Sana=E2=80=99a is= basically due to the fact that it is the capital city and has over 80% of the activities, initiatives, and working ground f= or Internet-related activities. There are other big cities like Aden and Ta= iz, and many of the members =E2=80=93including myself- are originally from = those provinces and have good contacts there. However, Internet services are very limited in most other cities and in so= me regions, there is barely any internet connectivity due to extremely poor= infrastructure.

Through the social network group on Facebook and by using the resources and= capabilities with founding members, we sought potential members through th= eir own connections. We have attempted to reach out to potential founding m= embers from other provinces but we found very few people that were aware of ISOC and some were not even we= ll acquainted with the Internet at large.

For a country with such a low penetration like Yemen, it would be best to u= se traditional media and other means to introduce ISOC and invite potential= members to join but this would not be possible until we get the actual lic= ense.

We have devised a plan to create the ground for expanding to target less co= nnected provinces and regions that need support to improve Internet connect= ivity. We believe that it is important to take the first step starting from= Sana=E2=80=99a and adding more members from other regions as we grow because the initiative is indeed a national = one and covers the whole country.

To achieve greater geographical representation, we have the following plans= in place:

a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Upon the launch of ISOC-Yemen, we plan to launch an offici= al gathering in Sana=E2=80=99a with all founding members present and media = invited to cover the event. There we will send press releases to as many pa= rties possible so as to inform residents in various provinces about the initiative and invite members to join.
b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Among our projects is to hold regional activities and meet= ings to introduce ISOC-Yemen and let people sign up on the spot and inform = them of the benefits of joining and how together we could work to achieve = =C2=A0its goals
c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Apart from those meetings, member recruitment activities w= ill include:
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0visiting colleges, schools, and giving present= ations;
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0publishing announcements and news items in the= media (print, radio) inviting members to apply
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0using various projects (workshops, conferences= , etc.) as a means to recruit new members

In essence, we are eager to have ISOC-Yemen be inclusive and have represent= atives across Yemen but find that starting with this group of founding memb= ers will be a good start, especially as it is now high time to form such an= entity given the rapid growth of Internet usage.

2) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Opportunities for fundin= g ISOC-Yemen and creating sustainable income

We certainly have a plan for the first year to find sources of funding and = means of sustaining our operations and implement our projects. There are se= veral avenues that we see most fitting to achieve that:

1) =C2=A0We have agreed on having membership fees of YR 2,000 ($10) per mon= th per member. We will be giving a discount 50% to students so they could a= fford joining. With over 30 committed members from the start, this would co= nstitute $300 per month, which is good enough to pay for the rent of a small apartment and as we get more members= , we will be able to cover other expenses such as accessories, furniture, p= rinting material, etc.
2) =C2=A0We have good connections with several national agencies that suppo= rt such initiatives. Among them is the Social Development Fund, which could= provide capacity building funds to help furnish our apartment, buy equipme= nt, and cover costs of basic services such as Internet and power.
3) =C2=A0We can use the resources of the founding members as means of intro= ducing ISOC-Yemen and creating visibility. Some founding members have pledg= ed to provide space on their prominent websites, provide office space, and = other available resources such as computers and other equipment
4) =C2=A0Partners, businesses and international organizations will be appro= ached to help fund workshops and seminars related to Internet issues and so= me of the budgets will be allocated for capacity building and purchasing eq= uipment and accessories that could be used for future activities.
5) =C2=A0Administrative fees to be paid to ISOC-Yemen for running projects = (trainings, field work, researching Internet-related subjects, etc.) will b= e an added source of income to sustain ISOC-Yemen and help it be productive= and creative.
6) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ISOC-Yemen Chapter takes into consideration that all its p= rojects should have an element of sustainability in its activities. This is= achieved by making the training programs, researches, and other consultanc= y services paid by the candidates and beneficiaries seeking admission in it. This sector of Chapter generates income that cove= rs some of the running costs of Chapter.

In essence, we feel confident that the financial aspect of ISOC-Yemen will = be safe and sustainability will not be an issue provided that the commitmen= ts shown by founding members and partners will be kept and because the whol= e country is really witnessing a booming Internet-driven period with many good and positive prospects for s= uccess.

[=E2=80=A6]

Kind regards,
Sabrina Wilmot
Internet Society

On 22 Jul 2013, at 09:15, Hanna Kreitem wrote:

> Dear Sabrina,
>
> I happen to know one of the founding members, Ahmed AlMarwani, we have= volunteered together at Arab Digital Expression Camps, summer camps that e= xpose Arab youth to freedom of expression, use of technology in expression,= and open culture. He was a dedicated person with interest in human rights and freedom of expression.
>
> I have a comment on the application regarding funding, there doesn'= ;t seem to be a clear plan on how will they fund their activities, is this = required with the application?
>
> Regards,
> Hanna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
> Hi Sabrina,
>
> I have in fact spent an extended period of my youth in Yemen, in Aden.= A time I remember fondly.
>
> I notice that all the founding members are based in Sana'a. I wond= er if there could be some representation from Aden, or whether there might = be a possibility for a separate or sub chapter to later be established ther= e.
>
> joly
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> The following application for a Chapter in Yemen has been received. It= is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.
> Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially = been recognised by the Internet Society.
> If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing t= o establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 3 Aug= ust 2013.
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
>
> Thanks,
> Sabrina Wilmot
> Manager, Chapter Formation
> Internet Society
>
> -------------------------------
>
> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
> ISOC Yemen Chapter (short for Internet Society Yemen Chapter)
>
>
> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
> Anyone in Yemen as well Yemeni expatriates abroad could become part of= the community of interest.
>
>
> C. Purpose and scope of Chapter
> The chapter will be serving the interests of the Internet users by pur= suing the following key areas within the boundaries of Yemen as its scope:<= br> > =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Raising awareness among the public abou= t the benefits of using the Internet and good practices that would minimize= security and other risks to end users as well as promoting the efficient c= onsumption of bandwidth.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Encouraging websites to implement new s= ervices (applies to governmental, commerce, educational, cultural and other= service-oriented websites) and hold contests to recognized distinguished w= ebsites.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting technical solutions to obstac= les preventing effective use of the Internet such as slow speed, malware, e= tc.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Providing opportunities for training, e= ducation, networking and knowledge sharing.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cooperating and partnering with entitie= s from the government, civil society, private sector, international communi= ty and others to promote the free and effective use to the Internet for the= benefit of the society.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting a stronger and more robust in= frastructure that could allow remote areas to gain access to the Internet i= n an easy and affordable manner.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting reforms and measures to grant= allow the private sector to operate facilities, protocols and standards in= cluding but not limited to IXPs, DNSSec, IPV6, that promote healthy competi= tion to provide better services to the public.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting governmental efforts to esta= blish e-government projects to provide citizens with easier access to vario= us public services.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Participating in decision-making proces= ses on all levels that involve Internet services so as to promote the inter= ests of Internet users.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Expanding the use of the Internet by lo= wering costs, enhancing quality of service, and providing a greater array o= f possibilities.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Advocating freedom of expression online= and opposing oppressive practices that could limit such freedom
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Building the capacity of ISOC Yemen mem= bers in internet governance issues, and keep them informed about national, = regional and international internet affairs.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting the development of local con= tent on the web.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting the growth and evolution of t= he Internet architecture .
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initiating and supporting educational a= nd research projects related to the Internet.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Collection and dissemination of informa= tion related to the Internet, including histories and archives.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Contributing to the localization and bu= ilding cultural bridges between Yemen and other nations using the Internet.=
>
>
> D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter
> For the first year after inauguration, the focus will be on the follow= ing areas and the given timelines:
> Key priorities for the first quarter (months 1->3):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a not-for-profit entity to represent I= SOC Yemen Chapter and give it the required official status and recognition = to receive tax-exempted funds to carry out its various activities. This inc= ludes renting an apartment, printing letterheads, creating a stamp, printing leaflets and other material necessary to introd= uce the event.
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Forming the Standing Committees that will execu= te the plan set up for the first year.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a PR campaign about ISOC Yemen Chapter= .
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Preparing and organizing a conference introduci= ng the chapter under the theme =E2=80=98Internet in Yemen: Challenges and P= rospects=E2=80=99
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Networking and visiting potential partners and = supporters as well as future funders and member organizations that will be = helpful in supporting the chapter=E2=80=99s future activities.
> Key priorities for the rest of the year (3-12):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 3-12): Developing a series of workshops= in areas related to:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cyber security (bes= t practices in dealing with malware, hacking, DDoS, pirated software. etc.)=
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for beginn= ers (workshops for those who have just started using the Internet and need = guidance)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for interm= ediaries (providing tools and tips on using social networking, firewalls, o= nline storage)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 d. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Website development= (basic training in purchasing a hosting plan and starting a small-scale CM= S- based website
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Holding meetings with government = officials on the needs and aspirations of Internet users so as to address i= ssues related to cost, speed, reliability, infrastructure, etc.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Launching media campaigns to rais= e awareness about Internet use as well as visiting educational institutes s= uch as schools and universities and give lectures on the importance of Inte= rnet accessibility.
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-9) Writing proposals for projects tha= t call for establishing e-government services in some sectors of the govern= ment (we shall start with small-scale operations and move to bigger ones in= the next years)
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 9-12) Preparing for the annual summit a= nd preparing with surveys and questionnaires to be sent to members to set u= p the agenda of the meeting and potential projects to be carried out in the= next years towards achieving the goals of the chapter.
>
>
> E. Founding members of the Chapter
> Below is the full list of the 31 founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapte= r. A meeting took place on July 3, 2013 with many of those founding members= and the plan, bylaws, resources, etc. were all agreed upon and it was also= agreed that it was time to submit the application to ISOC for consideration. The list includes their names, = affiliations and contact information as well as the username they used to r= egister as individual members at Internet Society=E2=80=99s website.
>
> Full Name, Affiliation & Location:
> Abdellah Fayea, Engineer, Tafeel for IT Co. Ltd. - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Abdulsalam Arif, Student, U. of Science & Technology - Sana=E2=80= =99a
> Abrahim Alahdal, IT Engineer, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Adli Al-Kharasani, Trainer and activist (Sana=E2=80=99a)
> Ahmed Alashawl, Web Programmer, Yemen-Hosting - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ahmed Almarwani, Logistics Assistant, WFP, Hodeidah
> Ahmed Abdulsattar, Computer Engineer - Aden
> Aiman Al-Wasai, System Analyst, Ibda'a Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Akram AlMulsi, Marketing Manager, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ala=E2=80=99a Assamawy, Lecturer, Sana=E2=80=99a Community College =E2= =80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ameen Algithi, Freelancing network engineer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ammar Alareefi, Sana=E2=80=99a University Student - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Amr Sattar, Network Assistant, Orient House - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Aws Aleryani, General Manager, Design Group - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ebraheem Al-Moayed, TEDxSanaa Volunteer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Hizam Alahdal, IT Engineer, Ministry of Telecom. Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ibtihal Muharram, Billing Support Engineer =E2=80=93 Y Telecom - Sana= =E2=80=99a
> Madiha Kamal, Management Assistant & PR officer, AlKurby Co for Oi= l Services - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mishaal Thabit, Security Engineer, Y. Telecom., Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohamed Abdulmalek, YouTube clip presenter and producer (Coosh Malek),= Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mona Alhadadi, Radio anchor on Yemen FM - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mulk Khaleel, Software engineer, Yemen Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Nagib Abse, Executive Manager, Socotra Holidays - Socotra
> Osama Mostafa, Software developer, WHO - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Sami Qhtani, Trainer, General Telecom. Institute - Hodeidah
> Waleed Saleh, Charging Engineer, Y Telecom - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Walid Al-Saqaf, University Lecturer & Software Developer (Sana=E2= =80=99a, Yemen and Orebro, Sweden)
> Yusri Alathwari, CEO of Warzan E-Marketing - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Zakaria Alaya, Freelance designer and photographer - Sana=E2=80=99a > Zakaria AlKainai, Software Developer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohammed Rashed Al-Dhaifi, =C2=A0Head of System and Hosting Department= - , Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
>
>
> F. List of supporters and partner organizations
> Below is a list of organizations and bodies will believe will be suppo= rting or partnering with our chapter. We have established preliminary conta= cts with those organizations and have received encouraging statements of su= pport from key staff members once ISOC Yemen Chapter is launched.
> - Corporate
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 YemenNet = =E2=80=93 Official Internet Service Provider for Yemen (Run by Ministry of = Telecommunication)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TeleYemen = =E2=80=93 Registrar of .ye domains and international carrier
> - Educational
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Computer Sc= ience Department =E2=80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 General Tel= ecommunication Institute
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Darassalam = International University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 University = of Modern Sciences
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Limkokwing = University (Yemen).
> - Private Sector
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sahafa.net =E2=80=93 Yemen=E2=80= =99s most widely viewed website (news aggregator)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Warazan =E2= =80=93 An e-marketing and e-commerce portal
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Design Grou= p =E2=80=93 For website design and development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemen Sat = =E2=80=93 VSAT Service provider for Yemen
> - Civil Society
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Lawyers Syn= dicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access as one of its main points o= f their concern
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Teachers Sy= ndicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access to schools including staff= and students
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Labor Union= =E2=80=93 advocating for reducing cost of access to laborers
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Internation= al organizations (there are several international organizations and bodies = that will be approached for support including UNDP, Oxfam, Mercy Corp) for = support in projects that involve using the Internet for development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Democracy S= chool in Yemen =E2=80=93 advocating promoting democracy by expanding access= to the Internet to all sectors of the Yemeni population
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Wome= n Union =E2=80=93 advocating for gender equality in access to the Internet<= br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Youth Leade= rship Development foundation (YLDF) for support in projects that involve us= ing the Internet for development, also advocating for gender equality in ac= cess to the internet.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Asso= ciation for IT (yait.org= )
>
>
> G. Membership
> Members will be invited to join through a number of methods including = the following:
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Social networking: A Facebook page will be crea= ted to invite members and ask them to join by indicating the benefits and d= ues to join
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Media coverage: Some of the founding members ha= ve good connections to the media and they will be producing news reports an= d press releases about the chapter and will use the media to invite members= to join and support the chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The conference to kick start the activities of = ISOC Yemen Chapter will be a great opportunity to introduce the chapter to = potential members and call upon attendees to sign up for membership on the = spot and introduce them to the Internet Society as well as ISOC Yemen Chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Various training activities that will involve n= on-members will be used to attract members and explain to them the advantag= e of joining
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Students will be approached via university and = high school visits and banners as well as other similar activities to invit= e them to join, indicating the 50% discount for full-time students.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 There will also be other creative methods to ge= t members to join and those will be developed and encouraged as time progre= sses.
>
>
> H. List of requirements
> The requirements to form a not-for-profit organization includes having= all the required documents (application, bylaws, etc.) plus a fee and a ba= nk deposit of around $5,000 (YR 1 million). There is also an annual renewal= fee of less than $100. The founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapter would also be the founding members of the or= ganization.
>
>
> I. Additional information
> Yemen is among the countries that are well below the world average in = terms of Internet penetration and quality of service. The Web Index 2012 sh= owed Yemen on the bottom of all surveyed countries, reflecting an urgent ne= ed to help improve Internet services and expand access to the whole population. The poor infrastructure, string= ent regulations, slow speed, low bandwidth, low awareness, service monopoly= , and high costs are some of the obstacles keeping the Internet from growin= g and prospering in the country. Although there were a few ad-hoc events and appeals to address those sever= e problems, there was really no institutional effort to do so and we feel t= hat ISOC Yemen Chapter could be the real start of such an effort.
> Our efforts will focus primarily on making the Internet used more effe= ctively to serve development and progress and to make it more accessible, f= ree and of high quality by pursuing the goals set forth in the application = and bylaws. Luckily, Yemen has a large youth population that is increasingly interested in using the Internet for= various purposes such as education, career advancement, work, etc. and hen= ce, ISOC Yemen Chapter comes at a very good time to help bring the Internet= to its true potential for Yemen=E2=80=99s development.
>
>
> J. Your contact information=E2=80=A8>
> Name: Walid Al-Saqaf
> Affiliation: Director/Founder, Alkasir (alkasir.com) - Lecturer, Orebro University
> Yemen
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Best regard,
Nadira
ISOC Palestine

On Jul 27, 2013 9:55 AM, "Dr. Suhaidi B Has= san" <suhai= di at uum.edu.my> wrote:

Dear Hanna, Sabrina,

During my trip to Khartoum, Sudan recently, I have also seen growing intere= st on forming an ISOC chapter there. But I wonder if Sudanese colleagues ar= e allowed to form a chapter there since the country is on the US list of em= bargoed countries.=C2=A0

Regards,

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=C2=A0 School of Computing, Universiti Utara Malaysia
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On 27 Jul, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Hanna Kreitem <hannaq at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sabrina,
Thank you for the update, and best of luck to the Yemen chapter, they seem = to be eager and willing to work on Internet issues in Yemen, which can lead= as a sample for other similar countries. Kindly pass a note to them that I= am willing to provide all the help possible, and I am sure the rest of the community is willing to as well. <= /p>
Regards,
Hanna.

On 26 Jul 2013 18:20, "Sabrina Wilmot"= <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:

Dear Hanna, dear Joly,

Thanks again for your questions regarding this application. Please find bel= ow the information as provided by the founding members of this Chapter:

[=E2=80=A6]
1) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Concerning the geographi= cal representation of founding members:

We have strived to spread the word and contact all people we know as potent= ial founding members and succeeded in getting representatives from 6 other = provinces apart from Sana=E2=80=99a. The core group is in Sana=E2=80=99a is= basically due to the fact that it is the capital city and has over 80% of the activities, initiatives, and working ground f= or Internet-related activities. There are other big cities like Aden and Ta= iz, and many of the members =E2=80=93including myself- are originally from = those provinces and have good contacts there. However, Internet services are very limited in most other cities and in so= me regions, there is barely any internet connectivity due to extremely poor= infrastructure.

Through the social network group on Facebook and by using the resources and= capabilities with founding members, we sought potential members through th= eir own connections. We have attempted to reach out to potential founding m= embers from other provinces but we found very few people that were aware of ISOC and some were not even we= ll acquainted with the Internet at large.

For a country with such a low penetration like Yemen, it would be best to u= se traditional media and other means to introduce ISOC and invite potential= members to join but this would not be possible until we get the actual lic= ense.

We have devised a plan to create the ground for expanding to target less co= nnected provinces and regions that need support to improve Internet connect= ivity. We believe that it is important to take the first step starting from= Sana=E2=80=99a and adding more members from other regions as we grow because the initiative is indeed a national = one and covers the whole country.

To achieve greater geographical representation, we have the following plans= in place:

a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Upon the launch of ISOC-Yemen, we plan to launch an offici= al gathering in Sana=E2=80=99a with all founding members present and media = invited to cover the event. There we will send press releases to as many pa= rties possible so as to inform residents in various provinces about the initiative and invite members to join.
b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Among our projects is to hold regional activities and meet= ings to introduce ISOC-Yemen and let people sign up on the spot and inform = them of the benefits of joining and how together we could work to achieve = =C2=A0its goals
c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Apart from those meetings, member recruitment activities w= ill include:
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0visiting colleges, schools, and giving present= ations;
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0publishing announcements and news items in the= media (print, radio) inviting members to apply
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0using various projects (workshops, conferences= , etc.) as a means to recruit new members

In essence, we are eager to have ISOC-Yemen be inclusive and have represent= atives across Yemen but find that starting with this group of founding memb= ers will be a good start, especially as it is now high time to form such an= entity given the rapid growth of Internet usage.

2) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Opportunities for fundin= g ISOC-Yemen and creating sustainable income

We certainly have a plan for the first year to find sources of funding and = means of sustaining our operations and implement our projects. There are se= veral avenues that we see most fitting to achieve that:

1) =C2=A0We have agreed on having membership fees of YR 2,000 ($10) per mon= th per member. We will be giving a discount 50% to students so they could a= fford joining. With over 30 committed members from the start, this would co= nstitute $300 per month, which is good enough to pay for the rent of a small apartment and as we get more members= , we will be able to cover other expenses such as accessories, furniture, p= rinting material, etc.
2) =C2=A0We have good connections with several national agencies that suppo= rt such initiatives. Among them is the Social Development Fund, which could= provide capacity building funds to help furnish our apartment, buy equipme= nt, and cover costs of basic services such as Internet and power.
3) =C2=A0We can use the resources of the founding members as means of intro= ducing ISOC-Yemen and creating visibility. Some founding members have pledg= ed to provide space on their prominent websites, provide office space, and = other available resources such as computers and other equipment
4) =C2=A0Partners, businesses and international organizations will be appro= ached to help fund workshops and seminars related to Internet issues and so= me of the budgets will be allocated for capacity building and purchasing eq= uipment and accessories that could be used for future activities.
5) =C2=A0Administrative fees to be paid to ISOC-Yemen for running projects = (trainings, field work, researching Internet-related subjects, etc.) will b= e an added source of income to sustain ISOC-Yemen and help it be productive= and creative.
6) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ISOC-Yemen Chapter takes into consideration that all its p= rojects should have an element of sustainability in its activities. This is= achieved by making the training programs, researches, and other consultanc= y services paid by the candidates and beneficiaries seeking admission in it. This sector of Chapter generates income that cove= rs some of the running costs of Chapter.

In essence, we feel confident that the financial aspect of ISOC-Yemen will = be safe and sustainability will not be an issue provided that the commitmen= ts shown by founding members and partners will be kept and because the whol= e country is really witnessing a booming Internet-driven period with many good and positive prospects for s= uccess.

[=E2=80=A6]

Kind regards,
Sabrina Wilmot
Internet Society

On 22 Jul 2013, at 09:15, Hanna Kreitem wrote:

> Dear Sabrina,
>
> I happen to know one of the founding members, Ahmed AlMarwani, we have= volunteered together at Arab Digital Expression Camps, summer camps that e= xpose Arab youth to freedom of expression, use of technology in expression,= and open culture. He was a dedicated person with interest in human rights and freedom of expression.
>
> I have a comment on the application regarding funding, there doesn'= ;t seem to be a clear plan on how will they fund their activities, is this = required with the application?
>
> Regards,
> Hanna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
> Hi Sabrina,
>
> I have in fact spent an extended period of my youth in Yemen, in Aden.= A time I remember fondly.
>
> I notice that all the founding members are based in Sana'a. I wond= er if there could be some representation from Aden, or whether there might = be a possibility for a separate or sub chapter to later be established ther= e.
>
> joly
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> The following application for a Chapter in Yemen has been received. It= is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.
> Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially = been recognised by the Internet Society.
> If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing t= o establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 3 Aug= ust 2013.
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
>
> Thanks,
> Sabrina Wilmot
> Manager, Chapter Formation
> Internet Society
>
> -------------------------------
>
> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
> ISOC Yemen Chapter (short for Internet Society Yemen Chapter)
>
>
> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
> Anyone in Yemen as well Yemeni expatriates abroad could become part of= the community of interest.
>
>
> C. Purpose and scope of Chapter
> The chapter will be serving the interests of the Internet users by pur= suing the following key areas within the boundaries of Yemen as its scope:<= br> > =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Raising awareness among the public abou= t the benefits of using the Internet and good practices that would minimize= security and other risks to end users as well as promoting the efficient c= onsumption of bandwidth.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Encouraging websites to implement new s= ervices (applies to governmental, commerce, educational, cultural and other= service-oriented websites) and hold contests to recognized distinguished w= ebsites.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting technical solutions to obstac= les preventing effective use of the Internet such as slow speed, malware, e= tc.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Providing opportunities for training, e= ducation, networking and knowledge sharing.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cooperating and partnering with entitie= s from the government, civil society, private sector, international communi= ty and others to promote the free and effective use to the Internet for the= benefit of the society.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting a stronger and more robust in= frastructure that could allow remote areas to gain access to the Internet i= n an easy and affordable manner.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting reforms and measures to grant= allow the private sector to operate facilities, protocols and standards in= cluding but not limited to IXPs, DNSSec, IPV6, that promote healthy competi= tion to provide better services to the public.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting governmental efforts to esta= blish e-government projects to provide citizens with easier access to vario= us public services.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Participating in decision-making proces= ses on all levels that involve Internet services so as to promote the inter= ests of Internet users.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Expanding the use of the Internet by lo= wering costs, enhancing quality of service, and providing a greater array o= f possibilities.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Advocating freedom of expression online= and opposing oppressive practices that could limit such freedom
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Building the capacity of ISOC Yemen mem= bers in internet governance issues, and keep them informed about national, = regional and international internet affairs.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting the development of local con= tent on the web.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting the growth and evolution of t= he Internet architecture .
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initiating and supporting educational a= nd research projects related to the Internet.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Collection and dissemination of informa= tion related to the Internet, including histories and archives.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Contributing to the localization and bu= ilding cultural bridges between Yemen and other nations using the Internet.=
>
>
> D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter
> For the first year after inauguration, the focus will be on the follow= ing areas and the given timelines:
> Key priorities for the first quarter (months 1->3):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a not-for-profit entity to represent I= SOC Yemen Chapter and give it the required official status and recognition = to receive tax-exempted funds to carry out its various activities. This inc= ludes renting an apartment, printing letterheads, creating a stamp, printing leaflets and other material necessary to introd= uce the event.
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Forming the Standing Committees that will execu= te the plan set up for the first year.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a PR campaign about ISOC Yemen Chapter= .
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Preparing and organizing a conference introduci= ng the chapter under the theme =E2=80=98Internet in Yemen: Challenges and P= rospects=E2=80=99
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Networking and visiting potential partners and = supporters as well as future funders and member organizations that will be = helpful in supporting the chapter=E2=80=99s future activities.
> Key priorities for the rest of the year (3-12):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 3-12): Developing a series of workshops= in areas related to:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cyber security (bes= t practices in dealing with malware, hacking, DDoS, pirated software. etc.)=
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for beginn= ers (workshops for those who have just started using the Internet and need = guidance)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for interm= ediaries (providing tools and tips on using social networking, firewalls, o= nline storage)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 d. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Website development= (basic training in purchasing a hosting plan and starting a small-scale CM= S- based website
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Holding meetings with government = officials on the needs and aspirations of Internet users so as to address i= ssues related to cost, speed, reliability, infrastructure, etc.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Launching media campaigns to rais= e awareness about Internet use as well as visiting educational institutes s= uch as schools and universities and give lectures on the importance of Inte= rnet accessibility.
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-9) Writing proposals for projects tha= t call for establishing e-government services in some sectors of the govern= ment (we shall start with small-scale operations and move to bigger ones in= the next years)
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 9-12) Preparing for the annual summit a= nd preparing with surveys and questionnaires to be sent to members to set u= p the agenda of the meeting and potential projects to be carried out in the= next years towards achieving the goals of the chapter.
>
>
> E. Founding members of the Chapter
> Below is the full list of the 31 founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapte= r. A meeting took place on July 3, 2013 with many of those founding members= and the plan, bylaws, resources, etc. were all agreed upon and it was also= agreed that it was time to submit the application to ISOC for consideration. The list includes their names, = affiliations and contact information as well as the username they used to r= egister as individual members at Internet Society=E2=80=99s website.
>
> Full Name, Affiliation & Location:
> Abdellah Fayea, Engineer, Tafeel for IT Co. Ltd. - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Abdulsalam Arif, Student, U. of Science & Technology - Sana=E2=80= =99a
> Abrahim Alahdal, IT Engineer, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Adli Al-Kharasani, Trainer and activist (Sana=E2=80=99a)
> Ahmed Alashawl, Web Programmer, Yemen-Hosting - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ahmed Almarwani, Logistics Assistant, WFP, Hodeidah
> Ahmed Abdulsattar, Computer Engineer - Aden
> Aiman Al-Wasai, System Analyst, Ibda'a Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Akram AlMulsi, Marketing Manager, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ala=E2=80=99a Assamawy, Lecturer, Sana=E2=80=99a Community College =E2= =80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ameen Algithi, Freelancing network engineer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ammar Alareefi, Sana=E2=80=99a University Student - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Amr Sattar, Network Assistant, Orient House - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Aws Aleryani, General Manager, Design Group - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ebraheem Al-Moayed, TEDxSanaa Volunteer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Hizam Alahdal, IT Engineer, Ministry of Telecom. Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ibtihal Muharram, Billing Support Engineer =E2=80=93 Y Telecom - Sana= =E2=80=99a
> Madiha Kamal, Management Assistant & PR officer, AlKurby Co for Oi= l Services - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mishaal Thabit, Security Engineer, Y. Telecom., Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohamed Abdulmalek, YouTube clip presenter and producer (Coosh Malek),= Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mona Alhadadi, Radio anchor on Yemen FM - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mulk Khaleel, Software engineer, Yemen Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Nagib Abse, Executive Manager, Socotra Holidays - Socotra
> Osama Mostafa, Software developer, WHO - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Sami Qhtani, Trainer, General Telecom. Institute - Hodeidah
> Waleed Saleh, Charging Engineer, Y Telecom - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Walid Al-Saqaf, University Lecturer & Software Developer (Sana=E2= =80=99a, Yemen and Orebro, Sweden)
> Yusri Alathwari, CEO of Warzan E-Marketing - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Zakaria Alaya, Freelance designer and photographer - Sana=E2=80=99a > Zakaria AlKainai, Software Developer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohammed Rashed Al-Dhaifi, =C2=A0Head of System and Hosting Department= - , Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
>
>
> F. List of supporters and partner organizations
> Below is a list of organizations and bodies will believe will be suppo= rting or partnering with our chapter. We have established preliminary conta= cts with those organizations and have received encouraging statements of su= pport from key staff members once ISOC Yemen Chapter is launched.
> - Corporate
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 YemenNet = =E2=80=93 Official Internet Service Provider for Yemen (Run by Ministry of = Telecommunication)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TeleYemen = =E2=80=93 Registrar of .ye domains and international carrier
> - Educational
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Computer Sc= ience Department =E2=80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 General Tel= ecommunication Institute
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Darassalam = International University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 University = of Modern Sciences
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Limkokwing = University (Yemen).
> - Private Sector
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sahafa.net =E2=80=93 Yemen=E2=80= =99s most widely viewed website (news aggregator)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Warazan =E2= =80=93 An e-marketing and e-commerce portal
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Design Grou= p =E2=80=93 For website design and development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemen Sat = =E2=80=93 VSAT Service provider for Yemen
> - Civil Society
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Lawyers Syn= dicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access as one of its main points o= f their concern
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Teachers Sy= ndicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access to schools including staff= and students
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Labor Union= =E2=80=93 advocating for reducing cost of access to laborers
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Internation= al organizations (there are several international organizations and bodies = that will be approached for support including UNDP, Oxfam, Mercy Corp) for = support in projects that involve using the Internet for development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Democracy S= chool in Yemen =E2=80=93 advocating promoting democracy by expanding access= to the Internet to all sectors of the Yemeni population
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Wome= n Union =E2=80=93 advocating for gender equality in access to the Internet<= br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Youth Leade= rship Development foundation (YLDF) for support in projects that involve us= ing the Internet for development, also advocating for gender equality in ac= cess to the internet.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Asso= ciation for IT (yait.org= )
>
>
> G. Membership
> Members will be invited to join through a number of methods including = the following:
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Social networking: A Facebook page will be crea= ted to invite members and ask them to join by indicating the benefits and d= ues to join
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Media coverage: Some of the founding members ha= ve good connections to the media and they will be producing news reports an= d press releases about the chapter and will use the media to invite members= to join and support the chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The conference to kick start the activities of = ISOC Yemen Chapter will be a great opportunity to introduce the chapter to = potential members and call upon attendees to sign up for membership on the = spot and introduce them to the Internet Society as well as ISOC Yemen Chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Various training activities that will involve n= on-members will be used to attract members and explain to them the advantag= e of joining
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Students will be approached via university and = high school visits and banners as well as other similar activities to invit= e them to join, indicating the 50% discount for full-time students.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 There will also be other creative methods to ge= t members to join and those will be developed and encouraged as time progre= sses.
>
>
> H. List of requirements
> The requirements to form a not-for-profit organization includes having= all the required documents (application, bylaws, etc.) plus a fee and a ba= nk deposit of around $5,000 (YR 1 million). There is also an annual renewal= fee of less than $100. The founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapter would also be the founding members of the or= ganization.
>
>
> I. Additional information
> Yemen is among the countries that are well below the world average in = terms of Internet penetration and quality of service. The Web Index 2012 sh= owed Yemen on the bottom of all surveyed countries, reflecting an urgent ne= ed to help improve Internet services and expand access to the whole population. The poor infrastructure, string= ent regulations, slow speed, low bandwidth, low awareness, service monopoly= , and high costs are some of the obstacles keeping the Internet from growin= g and prospering in the country. Although there were a few ad-hoc events and appeals to address those sever= e problems, there was really no institutional effort to do so and we feel t= hat ISOC Yemen Chapter could be the real start of such an effort.
> Our efforts will focus primarily on making the Internet used more effe= ctively to serve development and progress and to make it more accessible, f= ree and of high quality by pursuing the goals set forth in the application = and bylaws. Luckily, Yemen has a large youth population that is increasingly interested in using the Internet for= various purposes such as education, career advancement, work, etc. and hen= ce, ISOC Yemen Chapter comes at a very good time to help bring the Internet= to its true potential for Yemen=E2=80=99s development.
>
>
> J. Your contact information=E2=80=A8>
> Name: Walid Al-Saqaf
> Affiliation: Director/Founder, Alkasir (alkasir.com) - Lecturer, Orebro University
> Yemen
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Best regard,
Nadira
ISOC Palestine

On Jul 27, 2013 9:55 AM, "Dr. Suhaidi B Has= san" <suhai= di at uum.edu.my> wrote:

Dear Hanna, Sabrina,

During my trip to Khartoum, Sudan recently, I have also seen growing intere= st on forming an ISOC chapter there. But I wonder if Sudanese colleagues ar= e allowed to form a chapter there since the country is on the US list of em= bargoed countries.=C2=A0

Regards,

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On 27 Jul, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Hanna Kreitem <hannaq at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sabrina,
Thank you for the update, and best of luck to the Yemen chapter, they seem = to be eager and willing to work on Internet issues in Yemen, which can lead= as a sample for other similar countries. Kindly pass a note to them that I= am willing to provide all the help possible, and I am sure the rest of the community is willing to as well. <= /p>
Regards,
Hanna.

On 26 Jul 2013 18:20, "Sabrina Wilmot"= <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:

Dear Hanna, dear Joly,

Thanks again for your questions regarding this application. Please find bel= ow the information as provided by the founding members of this Chapter:

[=E2=80=A6]
1) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Concerning the geographi= cal representation of founding members:

We have strived to spread the word and contact all people we know as potent= ial founding members and succeeded in getting representatives from 6 other = provinces apart from Sana=E2=80=99a. The core group is in Sana=E2=80=99a is= basically due to the fact that it is the capital city and has over 80% of the activities, initiatives, and working ground f= or Internet-related activities. There are other big cities like Aden and Ta= iz, and many of the members =E2=80=93including myself- are originally from = those provinces and have good contacts there. However, Internet services are very limited in most other cities and in so= me regions, there is barely any internet connectivity due to extremely poor= infrastructure.

Through the social network group on Facebook and by using the resources and= capabilities with founding members, we sought potential members through th= eir own connections. We have attempted to reach out to potential founding m= embers from other provinces but we found very few people that were aware of ISOC and some were not even we= ll acquainted with the Internet at large.

For a country with such a low penetration like Yemen, it would be best to u= se traditional media and other means to introduce ISOC and invite potential= members to join but this would not be possible until we get the actual lic= ense.

We have devised a plan to create the ground for expanding to target less co= nnected provinces and regions that need support to improve Internet connect= ivity. We believe that it is important to take the first step starting from= Sana=E2=80=99a and adding more members from other regions as we grow because the initiative is indeed a national = one and covers the whole country.

To achieve greater geographical representation, we have the following plans= in place:

a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Upon the launch of ISOC-Yemen, we plan to launch an offici= al gathering in Sana=E2=80=99a with all founding members present and media = invited to cover the event. There we will send press releases to as many pa= rties possible so as to inform residents in various provinces about the initiative and invite members to join.
b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Among our projects is to hold regional activities and meet= ings to introduce ISOC-Yemen and let people sign up on the spot and inform = them of the benefits of joining and how together we could work to achieve = =C2=A0its goals
c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Apart from those meetings, member recruitment activities w= ill include:
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0visiting colleges, schools, and giving present= ations;
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0publishing announcements and news items in the= media (print, radio) inviting members to apply
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0using various projects (workshops, conferences= , etc.) as a means to recruit new members

In essence, we are eager to have ISOC-Yemen be inclusive and have represent= atives across Yemen but find that starting with this group of founding memb= ers will be a good start, especially as it is now high time to form such an= entity given the rapid growth of Internet usage.

2) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Opportunities for fundin= g ISOC-Yemen and creating sustainable income

We certainly have a plan for the first year to find sources of funding and = means of sustaining our operations and implement our projects. There are se= veral avenues that we see most fitting to achieve that:

1) =C2=A0We have agreed on having membership fees of YR 2,000 ($10) per mon= th per member. We will be giving a discount 50% to students so they could a= fford joining. With over 30 committed members from the start, this would co= nstitute $300 per month, which is good enough to pay for the rent of a small apartment and as we get more members= , we will be able to cover other expenses such as accessories, furniture, p= rinting material, etc.
2) =C2=A0We have good connections with several national agencies that suppo= rt such initiatives. Among them is the Social Development Fund, which could= provide capacity building funds to help furnish our apartment, buy equipme= nt, and cover costs of basic services such as Internet and power.
3) =C2=A0We can use the resources of the founding members as means of intro= ducing ISOC-Yemen and creating visibility. Some founding members have pledg= ed to provide space on their prominent websites, provide office space, and = other available resources such as computers and other equipment
4) =C2=A0Partners, businesses and international organizations will be appro= ached to help fund workshops and seminars related to Internet issues and so= me of the budgets will be allocated for capacity building and purchasing eq= uipment and accessories that could be used for future activities.
5) =C2=A0Administrative fees to be paid to ISOC-Yemen for running projects = (trainings, field work, researching Internet-related subjects, etc.) will b= e an added source of income to sustain ISOC-Yemen and help it be productive= and creative.
6) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ISOC-Yemen Chapter takes into consideration that all its p= rojects should have an element of sustainability in its activities. This is= achieved by making the training programs, researches, and other consultanc= y services paid by the candidates and beneficiaries seeking admission in it. This sector of Chapter generates income that cove= rs some of the running costs of Chapter.

In essence, we feel confident that the financial aspect of ISOC-Yemen will = be safe and sustainability will not be an issue provided that the commitmen= ts shown by founding members and partners will be kept and because the whol= e country is really witnessing a booming Internet-driven period with many good and positive prospects for s= uccess.

[=E2=80=A6]

Kind regards,
Sabrina Wilmot
Internet Society

On 22 Jul 2013, at 09:15, Hanna Kreitem wrote:

> Dear Sabrina,
>
> I happen to know one of the founding members, Ahmed AlMarwani, we have= volunteered together at Arab Digital Expression Camps, summer camps that e= xpose Arab youth to freedom of expression, use of technology in expression,= and open culture. He was a dedicated person with interest in human rights and freedom of expression.
>
> I have a comment on the application regarding funding, there doesn'= ;t seem to be a clear plan on how will they fund their activities, is this = required with the application?
>
> Regards,
> Hanna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
> Hi Sabrina,
>
> I have in fact spent an extended period of my youth in Yemen, in Aden.= A time I remember fondly.
>
> I notice that all the founding members are based in Sana'a. I wond= er if there could be some representation from Aden, or whether there might = be a possibility for a separate or sub chapter to later be established ther= e.
>
> joly
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> The following application for a Chapter in Yemen has been received. It= is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.
> Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially = been recognised by the Internet Society.
> If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing t= o establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 3 Aug= ust 2013.
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
>
> Thanks,
> Sabrina Wilmot
> Manager, Chapter Formation
> Internet Society
>
> -------------------------------
>
> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
> ISOC Yemen Chapter (short for Internet Society Yemen Chapter)
>
>
> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
> Anyone in Yemen as well Yemeni expatriates abroad could become part of= the community of interest.
>
>
> C. Purpose and scope of Chapter
> The chapter will be serving the interests of the Internet users by pur= suing the following key areas within the boundaries of Yemen as its scope:<= br> > =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Raising awareness among the public abou= t the benefits of using the Internet and good practices that would minimize= security and other risks to end users as well as promoting the efficient c= onsumption of bandwidth.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Encouraging websites to implement new s= ervices (applies to governmental, commerce, educational, cultural and other= service-oriented websites) and hold contests to recognized distinguished w= ebsites.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting technical solutions to obstac= les preventing effective use of the Internet such as slow speed, malware, e= tc.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Providing opportunities for training, e= ducation, networking and knowledge sharing.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cooperating and partnering with entitie= s from the government, civil society, private sector, international communi= ty and others to promote the free and effective use to the Internet for the= benefit of the society.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting a stronger and more robust in= frastructure that could allow remote areas to gain access to the Internet i= n an easy and affordable manner.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting reforms and measures to grant= allow the private sector to operate facilities, protocols and standards in= cluding but not limited to IXPs, DNSSec, IPV6, that promote healthy competi= tion to provide better services to the public.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting governmental efforts to esta= blish e-government projects to provide citizens with easier access to vario= us public services.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Participating in decision-making proces= ses on all levels that involve Internet services so as to promote the inter= ests of Internet users.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Expanding the use of the Internet by lo= wering costs, enhancing quality of service, and providing a greater array o= f possibilities.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Advocating freedom of expression online= and opposing oppressive practices that could limit such freedom
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Building the capacity of ISOC Yemen mem= bers in internet governance issues, and keep them informed about national, = regional and international internet affairs.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting the development of local con= tent on the web.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting the growth and evolution of t= he Internet architecture .
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initiating and supporting educational a= nd research projects related to the Internet.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Collection and dissemination of informa= tion related to the Internet, including histories and archives.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Contributing to the localization and bu= ilding cultural bridges between Yemen and other nations using the Internet.=
>
>
> D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter
> For the first year after inauguration, the focus will be on the follow= ing areas and the given timelines:
> Key priorities for the first quarter (months 1->3):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a not-for-profit entity to represent I= SOC Yemen Chapter and give it the required official status and recognition = to receive tax-exempted funds to carry out its various activities. This inc= ludes renting an apartment, printing letterheads, creating a stamp, printing leaflets and other material necessary to introd= uce the event.
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Forming the Standing Committees that will execu= te the plan set up for the first year.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a PR campaign about ISOC Yemen Chapter= .
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Preparing and organizing a conference introduci= ng the chapter under the theme =E2=80=98Internet in Yemen: Challenges and P= rospects=E2=80=99
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Networking and visiting potential partners and = supporters as well as future funders and member organizations that will be = helpful in supporting the chapter=E2=80=99s future activities.
> Key priorities for the rest of the year (3-12):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 3-12): Developing a series of workshops= in areas related to:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cyber security (bes= t practices in dealing with malware, hacking, DDoS, pirated software. etc.)=
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for beginn= ers (workshops for those who have just started using the Internet and need = guidance)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for interm= ediaries (providing tools and tips on using social networking, firewalls, o= nline storage)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 d. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Website development= (basic training in purchasing a hosting plan and starting a small-scale CM= S- based website
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Holding meetings with government = officials on the needs and aspirations of Internet users so as to address i= ssues related to cost, speed, reliability, infrastructure, etc.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Launching media campaigns to rais= e awareness about Internet use as well as visiting educational institutes s= uch as schools and universities and give lectures on the importance of Inte= rnet accessibility.
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-9) Writing proposals for projects tha= t call for establishing e-government services in some sectors of the govern= ment (we shall start with small-scale operations and move to bigger ones in= the next years)
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 9-12) Preparing for the annual summit a= nd preparing with surveys and questionnaires to be sent to members to set u= p the agenda of the meeting and potential projects to be carried out in the= next years towards achieving the goals of the chapter.
>
>
> E. Founding members of the Chapter
> Below is the full list of the 31 founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapte= r. A meeting took place on July 3, 2013 with many of those founding members= and the plan, bylaws, resources, etc. were all agreed upon and it was also= agreed that it was time to submit the application to ISOC for consideration. The list includes their names, = affiliations and contact information as well as the username they used to r= egister as individual members at Internet Society=E2=80=99s website.
>
> Full Name, Affiliation & Location:
> Abdellah Fayea, Engineer, Tafeel for IT Co. Ltd. - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Abdulsalam Arif, Student, U. of Science & Technology - Sana=E2=80= =99a
> Abrahim Alahdal, IT Engineer, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Adli Al-Kharasani, Trainer and activist (Sana=E2=80=99a)
> Ahmed Alashawl, Web Programmer, Yemen-Hosting - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ahmed Almarwani, Logistics Assistant, WFP, Hodeidah
> Ahmed Abdulsattar, Computer Engineer - Aden
> Aiman Al-Wasai, System Analyst, Ibda'a Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Akram AlMulsi, Marketing Manager, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ala=E2=80=99a Assamawy, Lecturer, Sana=E2=80=99a Community College =E2= =80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ameen Algithi, Freelancing network engineer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ammar Alareefi, Sana=E2=80=99a University Student - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Amr Sattar, Network Assistant, Orient House - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Aws Aleryani, General Manager, Design Group - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ebraheem Al-Moayed, TEDxSanaa Volunteer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Hizam Alahdal, IT Engineer, Ministry of Telecom. Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ibtihal Muharram, Billing Support Engineer =E2=80=93 Y Telecom - Sana= =E2=80=99a
> Madiha Kamal, Management Assistant & PR officer, AlKurby Co for Oi= l Services - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mishaal Thabit, Security Engineer, Y. Telecom., Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohamed Abdulmalek, YouTube clip presenter and producer (Coosh Malek),= Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mona Alhadadi, Radio anchor on Yemen FM - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mulk Khaleel, Software engineer, Yemen Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Nagib Abse, Executive Manager, Socotra Holidays - Socotra
> Osama Mostafa, Software developer, WHO - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Sami Qhtani, Trainer, General Telecom. Institute - Hodeidah
> Waleed Saleh, Charging Engineer, Y Telecom - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Walid Al-Saqaf, University Lecturer & Software Developer (Sana=E2= =80=99a, Yemen and Orebro, Sweden)
> Yusri Alathwari, CEO of Warzan E-Marketing - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Zakaria Alaya, Freelance designer and photographer - Sana=E2=80=99a > Zakaria AlKainai, Software Developer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohammed Rashed Al-Dhaifi, =C2=A0Head of System and Hosting Department= - , Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
>
>
> F. List of supporters and partner organizations
> Below is a list of organizations and bodies will believe will be suppo= rting or partnering with our chapter. We have established preliminary conta= cts with those organizations and have received encouraging statements of su= pport from key staff members once ISOC Yemen Chapter is launched.
> - Corporate
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 YemenNet = =E2=80=93 Official Internet Service Provider for Yemen (Run by Ministry of = Telecommunication)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TeleYemen = =E2=80=93 Registrar of .ye domains and international carrier
> - Educational
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Computer Sc= ience Department =E2=80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 General Tel= ecommunication Institute
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Darassalam = International University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 University = of Modern Sciences
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Limkokwing = University (Yemen).
> - Private Sector
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sahafa.net =E2=80=93 Yemen=E2=80= =99s most widely viewed website (news aggregator)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Warazan =E2= =80=93 An e-marketing and e-commerce portal
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Design Grou= p =E2=80=93 For website design and development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemen Sat = =E2=80=93 VSAT Service provider for Yemen
> - Civil Society
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Lawyers Syn= dicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access as one of its main points o= f their concern
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Teachers Sy= ndicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access to schools including staff= and students
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Labor Union= =E2=80=93 advocating for reducing cost of access to laborers
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Internation= al organizations (there are several international organizations and bodies = that will be approached for support including UNDP, Oxfam, Mercy Corp) for = support in projects that involve using the Internet for development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Democracy S= chool in Yemen =E2=80=93 advocating promoting democracy by expanding access= to the Internet to all sectors of the Yemeni population
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Wome= n Union =E2=80=93 advocating for gender equality in access to the Internet<= br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Youth Leade= rship Development foundation (YLDF) for support in projects that involve us= ing the Internet for development, also advocating for gender equality in ac= cess to the internet.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Asso= ciation for IT (yait.org= )
>
>
> G. Membership
> Members will be invited to join through a number of methods including = the following:
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Social networking: A Facebook page will be crea= ted to invite members and ask them to join by indicating the benefits and d= ues to join
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Media coverage: Some of the founding members ha= ve good connections to the media and they will be producing news reports an= d press releases about the chapter and will use the media to invite members= to join and support the chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The conference to kick start the activities of = ISOC Yemen Chapter will be a great opportunity to introduce the chapter to = potential members and call upon attendees to sign up for membership on the = spot and introduce them to the Internet Society as well as ISOC Yemen Chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Various training activities that will involve n= on-members will be used to attract members and explain to them the advantag= e of joining
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Students will be approached via university and = high school visits and banners as well as other similar activities to invit= e them to join, indicating the 50% discount for full-time students.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 There will also be other creative methods to ge= t members to join and those will be developed and encouraged as time progre= sses.
>
>
> H. List of requirements
> The requirements to form a not-for-profit organization includes having= all the required documents (application, bylaws, etc.) plus a fee and a ba= nk deposit of around $5,000 (YR 1 million). There is also an annual renewal= fee of less than $100. The founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapter would also be the founding members of the or= ganization.
>
>
> I. Additional information
> Yemen is among the countries that are well below the world average in = terms of Internet penetration and quality of service. The Web Index 2012 sh= owed Yemen on the bottom of all surveyed countries, reflecting an urgent ne= ed to help improve Internet services and expand access to the whole population. The poor infrastructure, string= ent regulations, slow speed, low bandwidth, low awareness, service monopoly= , and high costs are some of the obstacles keeping the Internet from growin= g and prospering in the country. Although there were a few ad-hoc events and appeals to address those sever= e problems, there was really no institutional effort to do so and we feel t= hat ISOC Yemen Chapter could be the real start of such an effort.
> Our efforts will focus primarily on making the Internet used more effe= ctively to serve development and progress and to make it more accessible, f= ree and of high quality by pursuing the goals set forth in the application = and bylaws. Luckily, Yemen has a large youth population that is increasingly interested in using the Internet for= various purposes such as education, career advancement, work, etc. and hen= ce, ISOC Yemen Chapter comes at a very good time to help bring the Internet= to its true potential for Yemen=E2=80=99s development.
>
>
> J. Your contact information=E2=80=A8>
> Name: Walid Al-Saqaf
> Affiliation: Director/Founder, Alkasir (alkasir.com) - Lecturer, Orebro University
> Yemen
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Best regard,
Nadira
ISOC Palestine

On Jul 27, 2013 9:55 AM, "Dr. Suhaidi B Has= san" <suhai= di at uum.edu.my> wrote:

Dear Hanna, Sabrina,

During my trip to Khartoum, Sudan recently, I have also seen growing intere= st on forming an ISOC chapter there. But I wonder if Sudanese colleagues ar= e allowed to form a chapter there since the country is on the US list of em= bargoed countries.=C2=A0

Regards,

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On 27 Jul, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Hanna Kreitem <hannaq at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sabrina,
Thank you for the update, and best of luck to the Yemen chapter, they seem = to be eager and willing to work on Internet issues in Yemen, which can lead= as a sample for other similar countries. Kindly pass a note to them that I= am willing to provide all the help possible, and I am sure the rest of the community is willing to as well. <= /p>
Regards,
Hanna.

On 26 Jul 2013 18:20, "Sabrina Wilmot"= <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:

Dear Hanna, dear Joly,

Thanks again for your questions regarding this application. Please find bel= ow the information as provided by the founding members of this Chapter:

[=E2=80=A6]
1) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Concerning the geographi= cal representation of founding members:

We have strived to spread the word and contact all people we know as potent= ial founding members and succeeded in getting representatives from 6 other = provinces apart from Sana=E2=80=99a. The core group is in Sana=E2=80=99a is= basically due to the fact that it is the capital city and has over 80% of the activities, initiatives, and working ground f= or Internet-related activities. There are other big cities like Aden and Ta= iz, and many of the members =E2=80=93including myself- are originally from = those provinces and have good contacts there. However, Internet services are very limited in most other cities and in so= me regions, there is barely any internet connectivity due to extremely poor= infrastructure.

Through the social network group on Facebook and by using the resources and= capabilities with founding members, we sought potential members through th= eir own connections. We have attempted to reach out to potential founding m= embers from other provinces but we found very few people that were aware of ISOC and some were not even we= ll acquainted with the Internet at large.

For a country with such a low penetration like Yemen, it would be best to u= se traditional media and other means to introduce ISOC and invite potential= members to join but this would not be possible until we get the actual lic= ense.

We have devised a plan to create the ground for expanding to target less co= nnected provinces and regions that need support to improve Internet connect= ivity. We believe that it is important to take the first step starting from= Sana=E2=80=99a and adding more members from other regions as we grow because the initiative is indeed a national = one and covers the whole country.

To achieve greater geographical representation, we have the following plans= in place:

a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Upon the launch of ISOC-Yemen, we plan to launch an offici= al gathering in Sana=E2=80=99a with all founding members present and media = invited to cover the event. There we will send press releases to as many pa= rties possible so as to inform residents in various provinces about the initiative and invite members to join.
b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Among our projects is to hold regional activities and meet= ings to introduce ISOC-Yemen and let people sign up on the spot and inform = them of the benefits of joining and how together we could work to achieve = =C2=A0its goals
c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Apart from those meetings, member recruitment activities w= ill include:
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0visiting colleges, schools, and giving present= ations;
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0publishing announcements and news items in the= media (print, radio) inviting members to apply
- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0using various projects (workshops, conferences= , etc.) as a means to recruit new members

In essence, we are eager to have ISOC-Yemen be inclusive and have represent= atives across Yemen but find that starting with this group of founding memb= ers will be a good start, especially as it is now high time to form such an= entity given the rapid growth of Internet usage.

2) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Opportunities for fundin= g ISOC-Yemen and creating sustainable income

We certainly have a plan for the first year to find sources of funding and = means of sustaining our operations and implement our projects. There are se= veral avenues that we see most fitting to achieve that:

1) =C2=A0We have agreed on having membership fees of YR 2,000 ($10) per mon= th per member. We will be giving a discount 50% to students so they could a= fford joining. With over 30 committed members from the start, this would co= nstitute $300 per month, which is good enough to pay for the rent of a small apartment and as we get more members= , we will be able to cover other expenses such as accessories, furniture, p= rinting material, etc.
2) =C2=A0We have good connections with several national agencies that suppo= rt such initiatives. Among them is the Social Development Fund, which could= provide capacity building funds to help furnish our apartment, buy equipme= nt, and cover costs of basic services such as Internet and power.
3) =C2=A0We can use the resources of the founding members as means of intro= ducing ISOC-Yemen and creating visibility. Some founding members have pledg= ed to provide space on their prominent websites, provide office space, and = other available resources such as computers and other equipment
4) =C2=A0Partners, businesses and international organizations will be appro= ached to help fund workshops and seminars related to Internet issues and so= me of the budgets will be allocated for capacity building and purchasing eq= uipment and accessories that could be used for future activities.
5) =C2=A0Administrative fees to be paid to ISOC-Yemen for running projects = (trainings, field work, researching Internet-related subjects, etc.) will b= e an added source of income to sustain ISOC-Yemen and help it be productive= and creative.
6) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ISOC-Yemen Chapter takes into consideration that all its p= rojects should have an element of sustainability in its activities. This is= achieved by making the training programs, researches, and other consultanc= y services paid by the candidates and beneficiaries seeking admission in it. This sector of Chapter generates income that cove= rs some of the running costs of Chapter.

In essence, we feel confident that the financial aspect of ISOC-Yemen will = be safe and sustainability will not be an issue provided that the commitmen= ts shown by founding members and partners will be kept and because the whol= e country is really witnessing a booming Internet-driven period with many good and positive prospects for s= uccess.

[=E2=80=A6]

Kind regards,
Sabrina Wilmot
Internet Society

On 22 Jul 2013, at 09:15, Hanna Kreitem wrote:

> Dear Sabrina,
>
> I happen to know one of the founding members, Ahmed AlMarwani, we have= volunteered together at Arab Digital Expression Camps, summer camps that e= xpose Arab youth to freedom of expression, use of technology in expression,= and open culture. He was a dedicated person with interest in human rights and freedom of expression.
>
> I have a comment on the application regarding funding, there doesn'= ;t seem to be a clear plan on how will they fund their activities, is this = required with the application?
>
> Regards,
> Hanna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
> Hi Sabrina,
>
> I have in fact spent an extended period of my youth in Yemen, in Aden.= A time I remember fondly.
>
> I notice that all the founding members are based in Sana'a. I wond= er if there could be some representation from Aden, or whether there might = be a possibility for a separate or sub chapter to later be established ther= e.
>
> joly
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot at isoc.org> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> The following application for a Chapter in Yemen has been received. It= is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.
> Please note that the Chapter is not yet formed and has not officially = been recognised by the Internet Society.
> If there are people on this list that know the individuals proposing t= o establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.
> The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline is 3 Aug= ust 2013.
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.
>
> Thanks,
> Sabrina Wilmot
> Manager, Chapter Formation
> Internet Society
>
> -------------------------------
>
> A. Proposed name of the Chapter
> ISOC Yemen Chapter (short for Internet Society Yemen Chapter)
>
>
> B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve
> Anyone in Yemen as well Yemeni expatriates abroad could become part of= the community of interest.
>
>
> C. Purpose and scope of Chapter
> The chapter will be serving the interests of the Internet users by pur= suing the following key areas within the boundaries of Yemen as its scope:<= br> > =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Raising awareness among the public abou= t the benefits of using the Internet and good practices that would minimize= security and other risks to end users as well as promoting the efficient c= onsumption of bandwidth.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Encouraging websites to implement new s= ervices (applies to governmental, commerce, educational, cultural and other= service-oriented websites) and hold contests to recognized distinguished w= ebsites.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting technical solutions to obstac= les preventing effective use of the Internet such as slow speed, malware, e= tc.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Providing opportunities for training, e= ducation, networking and knowledge sharing.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cooperating and partnering with entitie= s from the government, civil society, private sector, international communi= ty and others to promote the free and effective use to the Internet for the= benefit of the society.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting a stronger and more robust in= frastructure that could allow remote areas to gain access to the Internet i= n an easy and affordable manner.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting reforms and measures to grant= allow the private sector to operate facilities, protocols and standards in= cluding but not limited to IXPs, DNSSec, IPV6, that promote healthy competi= tion to provide better services to the public.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting governmental efforts to esta= blish e-government projects to provide citizens with easier access to vario= us public services.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Participating in decision-making proces= ses on all levels that involve Internet services so as to promote the inter= ests of Internet users.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Expanding the use of the Internet by lo= wering costs, enhancing quality of service, and providing a greater array o= f possibilities.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Advocating freedom of expression online= and opposing oppressive practices that could limit such freedom
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Building the capacity of ISOC Yemen mem= bers in internet governance issues, and keep them informed about national, = regional and international internet affairs.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Supporting the development of local con= tent on the web.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Promoting the growth and evolution of t= he Internet architecture .
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initiating and supporting educational a= nd research projects related to the Internet.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Collection and dissemination of informa= tion related to the Internet, including histories and archives.
> =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Contributing to the localization and bu= ilding cultural bridges between Yemen and other nations using the Internet.=
>
>
> D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of Chapter
> For the first year after inauguration, the focus will be on the follow= ing areas and the given timelines:
> Key priorities for the first quarter (months 1->3):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a not-for-profit entity to represent I= SOC Yemen Chapter and give it the required official status and recognition = to receive tax-exempted funds to carry out its various activities. This inc= ludes renting an apartment, printing letterheads, creating a stamp, printing leaflets and other material necessary to introd= uce the event.
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Forming the Standing Committees that will execu= te the plan set up for the first year.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Creating a PR campaign about ISOC Yemen Chapter= .
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Preparing and organizing a conference introduci= ng the chapter under the theme =E2=80=98Internet in Yemen: Challenges and P= rospects=E2=80=99
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Networking and visiting potential partners and = supporters as well as future funders and member organizations that will be = helpful in supporting the chapter=E2=80=99s future activities.
> Key priorities for the rest of the year (3-12):
> 1- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 3-12): Developing a series of workshops= in areas related to:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 a. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cyber security (bes= t practices in dealing with malware, hacking, DDoS, pirated software. etc.)=
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 b. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for beginn= ers (workshops for those who have just started using the Internet and need = guidance)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 c. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet for interm= ediaries (providing tools and tips on using social networking, firewalls, o= nline storage)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 d. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Website development= (basic training in purchasing a hosting plan and starting a small-scale CM= S- based website
> 2- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Holding meetings with government = officials on the needs and aspirations of Internet users so as to address i= ssues related to cost, speed, reliability, infrastructure, etc.
> 3- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-12) Launching media campaigns to rais= e awareness about Internet use as well as visiting educational institutes s= uch as schools and universities and give lectures on the importance of Inte= rnet accessibility.
> 4- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 6-9) Writing proposals for projects tha= t call for establishing e-government services in some sectors of the govern= ment (we shall start with small-scale operations and move to bigger ones in= the next years)
> 5- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(months 9-12) Preparing for the annual summit a= nd preparing with surveys and questionnaires to be sent to members to set u= p the agenda of the meeting and potential projects to be carried out in the= next years towards achieving the goals of the chapter.
>
>
> E. Founding members of the Chapter
> Below is the full list of the 31 founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapte= r. A meeting took place on July 3, 2013 with many of those founding members= and the plan, bylaws, resources, etc. were all agreed upon and it was also= agreed that it was time to submit the application to ISOC for consideration. The list includes their names, = affiliations and contact information as well as the username they used to r= egister as individual members at Internet Society=E2=80=99s website.
>
> Full Name, Affiliation & Location:
> Abdellah Fayea, Engineer, Tafeel for IT Co. Ltd. - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Abdulsalam Arif, Student, U. of Science & Technology - Sana=E2=80= =99a
> Abrahim Alahdal, IT Engineer, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Adli Al-Kharasani, Trainer and activist (Sana=E2=80=99a)
> Ahmed Alashawl, Web Programmer, Yemen-Hosting - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ahmed Almarwani, Logistics Assistant, WFP, Hodeidah
> Ahmed Abdulsattar, Computer Engineer - Aden
> Aiman Al-Wasai, System Analyst, Ibda'a Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Akram AlMulsi, Marketing Manager, Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ala=E2=80=99a Assamawy, Lecturer, Sana=E2=80=99a Community College =E2= =80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ameen Algithi, Freelancing network engineer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ammar Alareefi, Sana=E2=80=99a University Student - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Amr Sattar, Network Assistant, Orient House - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Aws Aleryani, General Manager, Design Group - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ebraheem Al-Moayed, TEDxSanaa Volunteer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Hizam Alahdal, IT Engineer, Ministry of Telecom. Sana=E2=80=99a
> Ibtihal Muharram, Billing Support Engineer =E2=80=93 Y Telecom - Sana= =E2=80=99a
> Madiha Kamal, Management Assistant & PR officer, AlKurby Co for Oi= l Services - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mishaal Thabit, Security Engineer, Y. Telecom., Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohamed Abdulmalek, YouTube clip presenter and producer (Coosh Malek),= Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mona Alhadadi, Radio anchor on Yemen FM - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mulk Khaleel, Software engineer, Yemen Soft - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Nagib Abse, Executive Manager, Socotra Holidays - Socotra
> Osama Mostafa, Software developer, WHO - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Sami Qhtani, Trainer, General Telecom. Institute - Hodeidah
> Waleed Saleh, Charging Engineer, Y Telecom - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Walid Al-Saqaf, University Lecturer & Software Developer (Sana=E2= =80=99a, Yemen and Orebro, Sweden)
> Yusri Alathwari, CEO of Warzan E-Marketing - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Zakaria Alaya, Freelance designer and photographer - Sana=E2=80=99a > Zakaria AlKainai, Software Developer - Sana=E2=80=99a
> Mohammed Rashed Al-Dhaifi, =C2=A0Head of System and Hosting Department= - , Yemen Net - Sana=E2=80=99a
>
>
> F. List of supporters and partner organizations
> Below is a list of organizations and bodies will believe will be suppo= rting or partnering with our chapter. We have established preliminary conta= cts with those organizations and have received encouraging statements of su= pport from key staff members once ISOC Yemen Chapter is launched.
> - Corporate
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 YemenNet = =E2=80=93 Official Internet Service Provider for Yemen (Run by Ministry of = Telecommunication)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TeleYemen = =E2=80=93 Registrar of .ye domains and international carrier
> - Educational
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Computer Sc= ience Department =E2=80=93 Sana=E2=80=99a University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 General Tel= ecommunication Institute
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Darassalam = International University
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 University = of Modern Sciences
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Limkokwing = University (Yemen).
> - Private Sector
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sahafa.net =E2=80=93 Yemen=E2=80= =99s most widely viewed website (news aggregator)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Warazan =E2= =80=93 An e-marketing and e-commerce portal
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Design Grou= p =E2=80=93 For website design and development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemen Sat = =E2=80=93 VSAT Service provider for Yemen
> - Civil Society
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Lawyers Syn= dicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access as one of its main points o= f their concern
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Teachers Sy= ndicate =E2=80=93 advocating for Internet access to schools including staff= and students
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Labor Union= =E2=80=93 advocating for reducing cost of access to laborers
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Internation= al organizations (there are several international organizations and bodies = that will be approached for support including UNDP, Oxfam, Mercy Corp) for = support in projects that involve using the Internet for development
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Democracy S= chool in Yemen =E2=80=93 advocating promoting democracy by expanding access= to the Internet to all sectors of the Yemeni population
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Wome= n Union =E2=80=93 advocating for gender equality in access to the Internet<= br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Youth Leade= rship Development foundation (YLDF) for support in projects that involve us= ing the Internet for development, also advocating for gender equality in ac= cess to the internet.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =E2=80=A2 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yemeni Asso= ciation for IT (yait.org= )
>
>
> G. Membership
> Members will be invited to join through a number of methods including = the following:
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Social networking: A Facebook page will be crea= ted to invite members and ask them to join by indicating the benefits and d= ues to join
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Media coverage: Some of the founding members ha= ve good connections to the media and they will be producing news reports an= d press releases about the chapter and will use the media to invite members= to join and support the chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The conference to kick start the activities of = ISOC Yemen Chapter will be a great opportunity to introduce the chapter to = potential members and call upon attendees to sign up for membership on the = spot and introduce them to the Internet Society as well as ISOC Yemen Chapter.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Various training activities that will involve n= on-members will be used to attract members and explain to them the advantag= e of joining
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Students will be approached via university and = high school visits and banners as well as other similar activities to invit= e them to join, indicating the 50% discount for full-time students.
> - =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 There will also be other creative methods to ge= t members to join and those will be developed and encouraged as time progre= sses.
>
>
> H. List of requirements
> The requirements to form a not-for-profit organization includes having= all the required documents (application, bylaws, etc.) plus a fee and a ba= nk deposit of around $5,000 (YR 1 million). There is also an annual renewal= fee of less than $100. The founding members of ISOC Yemen Chapter would also be the founding members of the or= ganization.
>
>
> I. Additional information
> Yemen is among the countries that are well below the world average in = terms of Internet penetration and quality of service. The Web Index 2012 sh= owed Yemen on the bottom of all surveyed countries, reflecting an urgent ne= ed to help improve Internet services and expand access to the whole population. The poor infrastructure, string= ent regulations, slow speed, low bandwidth, low awareness, service monopoly= , and high costs are some of the obstacles keeping the Internet from growin= g and prospering in the country. Although there were a few ad-hoc events and appeals to address those sever= e problems, there was really no institutional effort to do so and we feel t= hat ISOC Yemen Chapter could be the real start of such an effort.
> Our efforts will focus primarily on making the Internet used more effe= ctively to serve development and progress and to make it more accessible, f= ree and of high quality by pursuing the goals set forth in the application = and bylaws. Luckily, Yemen has a large youth population that is increasingly interested in using the Internet for= various purposes such as education, career advancement, work, etc. and hen= ce, ISOC Yemen Chapter comes at a very good time to help bring the Internet= to its true potential for Yemen=E2=80=99s development.
>
>
> J. Your contact information=E2=80=A8>
> Name: Walid Al-Saqaf
> Affiliation: Director/Founder, Alkasir (alkasir.com) - Lecturer, Orebro University
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--047d7b41bb2a6e942304e27c0649-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: he creation of the InterPlanetary Networking Chapter, with a request that I= SOC look into the possibility of creating ISOC-wide non-voting SIGs/Working= Groups for technical topics in the future. Regards, Mark D. Urban Vice-Chair, DSN Chapter. From: Michael Snell [mailto:mjjsnell at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:20 PM To: Urban, Mark (CDC/OCOO/OCIO/ITSO) Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form an InterPlanetary Netw= orking Chapter Hi Mark. Hope things are well with you. Let me try to address your concern (and Peter Koch's concern). From ISOC's website: "An Internet Society Chapter brings together individu= al members of the Internet Society who share an interest and belief in the = Internet Society's principles and mission and who are committed to furtheri= ng the Internet Society's goals and objectives within your geographic or sp= ecial interest area." The words "or special interest area" certainly seem = to say that geography isn't the only thing that can define an ISOC chapter-= as your chapter certainly demonstrates. Our interest area is global in scope, not aligned with any particular geog= raphic region. Indeed, it would not be wise to associate IPNSIG with any ge= ographical region because that would inherently discourage membership from = outside the region. To paraphrase Paul Brooks "If we're going to be a SIG o= r project associated with a Chapter-- what chapter would you propose?" Whil= e relatively close to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena (about 6-7 = hours driving time), that's only one of the geographical centers of researc= h and interest in interplanetary networking. There are others centered on t= he East Coast, in Sweden, in Ireland, in Greece, in Australia and other loc= ations around the globe. Restricting it to a project or SIG associated with= the San Francisco Bay Area Chapter (as it currently is) makes it problemat= ic to host events that do not limit participation to the Northern Californi= a region. We are planning a major IPN event at Google HQ in Mountain View n= ext January-but we are also planning one in the Washington, D.C. area late = next year, and have just started discussions with the N4C community in Euro= pe about hosting an event there in 2015. We are doing this precisely becaus= e we recognize that our target audience and our membership is global. Beyond that, technical concerns are often not just technical. There is an i= mportant societal concern element here that is core to ISOC values: the ope= nness and transparency of the technical standards that drive the Internet. = It is not an issue today. There really is no Internet in outer space-- yet.= But we believe there should be, and that the same openness, transparency a= nd trust issues will exist. It is not in the interest of the people of the = earth to have space data communications remain the prerogative of competing= nation states. Commercialization of space will not supplant sovereign stat= e "ownership" of space exploration and eventual use of space resources with= out it. Work done by IPNSIG members over the past years has planted the seeds of th= is movement towards transparency and openness. Standards have been develope= d, not in secret government labs-- but under the auspices of IRTF. NASA has= publicly released the core IPN software as open source code. The first cha= irman of IPNSIG (Adrian Hooke from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) founded t= he Consultative Committee for Space Data systems, whose membership includes= space agencies from almost every space-faring nation on the planet. That o= rganization is in the process of adopting the Delay & Disruption Tolerant N= etworking (DTN) suite of protocols, which will foster cooperation and colla= boration by the world's space agencies, and pave the way for a trusted, tru= stworthy space infrastructure that will allow for the peaceful exploration = and potential use of off-planet resources. Furthermore, the application of these DTN technologies towards solving terr= estrial problems is gaining momentum. The N4C community in the European Uni= on has applied them towards monitoring wildlife in remote regions, and ther= e have been several proposals to use DTN to provide inexpensive, secure net= work services to remote areas. We believe that the interest and impact of IPN is global, and that, therefo= re, a global ISOC chapter is the best solution to both allow interested par= ties access to the chapter, and to allow for global collaboration with regi= onal chapters to further the development and deployment of DTN technologies= . It deserves and needs a chapter's resources dedicated to it, rather than = continuing as a project of SF Bay ISOC. Mike Snell President, San Francisco Bay Area Chapter Secretary/Treasurer, IPNSIG On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Urban, Mark (CDC/OCOO/OCIO/ITSO) > wrote: The Disability and Special Needs Chapter shares the same concerns as ISOC.D= E. As the only Global Chapter, we can recognize the occasio= nal need for a unique Chapter environs. However, in our case, the reasonin= g for the chapter was based upon unique societal needs, rather than a techn= ical interest. A nonvoting SIG (Special Interest Group) might be the more = appropriate venue for consideration of these problems. Regards, Mark D. Urban Vice Chair, ISOC DSN Chapter. -----Original Message----- From: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Peter Koch Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:22 AM To: ISOC Chapter Delegates Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form an InterPlanetary Netw= orking Chapter On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:27:10AM +0000, Sabrina Wilmot wrote: > The following application for an InterPlanetary Networking Chapter has be= en received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and review. > FYI: The group had started their work in a Special Interest Group ("IPNSI= G") and is currently formally a project of the San Francisco Bay Area Chapt= er. The applicants state: ISOC.DE applauds the initiative with the greatest respect t= owards the well renowned proponents. That said, we would like to ask for a= clarification regarding chapter eligibility. While there is at least one prominent example of a non-geographic chapter, = the initiative appears to be more of a project nature than a cross region I= SOC member organisation. No doubt it deserves support from ISOC, but we re= main unconvinced that a chapter is the best choice, strategically. -Peter Koch, ISOC.DE, Member of the Board _________________= ______________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to = this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapte= r Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org --_000_0480F540EA121F4D96C04472C8EAB4DA7ED762D8EMBXCLFT4cdcgov_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Michael,

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I appreciate your detaile= d and thoughtful response to our concerns. For the record, our thoughts sho= uld not in any way be interpreted to indicate that we don’t believe this is an important, ISOC-wide activity, just that the current Ch= apter model may not be the right fit.

<= /p>
From what we’ve hea= rd, we agree that a Chapter is the only viable option at this time. T= herefore, the Disability and Special Needs Chapter supports the creation of the InterPlanetary Networking Chapte= r, with a request that ISOC look into the possibility of creating ISOC-wide= non-voting SIGs/Working Groups for technical topics in the future.

<= /p>
Regards,

Mark D. Urban<= /b>

Vice-Chair, DSN Chapter.

<= /p>
<= /p>
From: Michae= l Snell [mailto:mjjsnell at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:20 PM
To: Urban, Mark (CDC/OCOO/OCIO/ITSO)
Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form an InterPlaneta= ry Networking Chapter

Hi Mark. Hope thin= gs are well with you.

Let me try t= o address your concern (and Peter Koch's concern).

From ISOC= 217;s website: “An Internet Society Chapter brings together individua= l members of the Internet Society who share an interest and belief in the I= nternet Society’s principles and mission and who are committed to furthering the Internet Society’s goals and objectives = within your geographic or special interest area.” The words = 220;or special interest area” certainly seem to say that geography is= n't the only thing that can define an ISOC chapter—as your chapter certainly demonstrates.

Our interest= area is global in scope, not aligned with any particular geographic region= . Indeed, it would not be wise to associate IPNSIG with any geographical re= gion because that would inherently discourage membership from outside the region. To paraphrase Paul Brooks "If we'= re going to be a SIG or project associated with a Chapter-- what chapter wo= uld you propose?" While relatively close to the Jet Propulsion La= boratory in Pasadena (about 6-7 hours driving time), that’s only one of the geographical centers of research and interest= in interplanetary networking. There are others centered on the East Coast,= in Sweden, in Ireland, in Greece, in Australia and other locations around = the globe. Restricting it to a project or SIG associated with the San Francisco Bay Area Chapter (as it currently= is) makes it problematic to host events that do not limit participation to= the Northern California region. We are planning a major IPN event at Googl= e HQ in Mountain View next January—but we are also planning one in the Washington, D.C. area late next year, and = have just started discussions with the N4C community in Europe about hostin= g an event there in 2015. We are doing this precisely because we recognize = that our target audience and our membership is global.

Beyond that, techn= ical concerns are often not just technical. There is an important societal = concern element here that is core to ISOC values: the openness and transpar= ency of the technical standards that drive the Internet. It is not an issue today. There really is no Internet = in outer space-- yet. But we believe there should be, and that the same ope= nness, transparency and trust issues will exist. It is not in the interest = of the people of the earth to have space data communications remain the prerogative of competing nation state= s. Commercialization of space will not supplant sovereign state "owner= ship" of space exploration and eventual use of space resources without= it.

Work done by IPNSI= G members over the past years has planted the seeds of this movement toward= s transparency and openness. Standards have been developed, not in secret g= overnment labs-- but under the auspices of IRTF. NASA has publicly released the core IPN software as open source c= ode. The first chairman of IPNSIG (Adrian Hooke from the Jet Propulsion Lab= oratory) founded the Consultative Committee for Space Data systems, whose m= embership includes space agencies from almost every space-faring nation on the planet. That organization is = in the process of adopting the Delay & Disruption Tolerant Networking (= DTN) suite of protocols, which will foster cooperation and collaboration by= the world's space agencies, and pave the way for a trusted, trustworthy space infrastructure that will allow fo= r the peaceful exploration and potential use of off-planet resources. =

Furthermore, the a= pplication of these DTN technologies towards solving terrestrial problems i= s gaining momentum. The N4C community in the European Union has applied the= m towards monitoring wildlife in remote regions, and there have been several proposals to use DTN to provide inexp= ensive, secure network services to remote areas.

We believe that th= e interest and impact of IPN is global, and that, therefore, a global ISOC = chapter is the best solution to both allow interested parties access to the= chapter, and to allow for global collaboration with regional chapters to further the development and deployment of DTN te= chnologies. It deserves and needs a chapter's resources dedicated to it, ra= ther than continuing as a project of SF Bay ISOC.

<= /p>
Mike Snell

President, San Fra= ncisco Bay Area Chapter

Secretary/Treasure= r, IPNSIG

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Urban, Mark (CDC/OC= OO/OCIO/ITSO) <fka2 at cd= c.gov> wrote:

The Disability and Special Needs Chapter shares the = same concerns as ISOC.DE. As the only Globa= l Chapter, we can recognize the occasional need for a unique Chapter enviro= ns. However, in our case, the reasoning for the chapter was based upo= n unique societal needs, rather than a technical interest. A nonvoting SIG (Special Interest Group) might be the more= appropriate venue for consideration of these problems.

Regards,

Mark D. Urban
Vice Chair, ISOC DSN Chapter.

-----Original Message-----
From: chapter-= delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Peter Koch
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:22 AM
To: ISOC Chapter Delegates
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form an InterPlanetary Netw= orking Chapter

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:27:10AM +0000, Sabrina Wilmot wrote:

> The following application for an InterPlanetary Networking Chapter has= been received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.<= br>
> FYI: The group had started their work in a Special Interest Group (&qu= ot;IPNSIG") and is currently formally a project of the San Francisco B= ay Area Chapter. The applicants state:

ISOC.DE applauds the initi= ative with the greatest respect towards the well renowned proponents. = ;That said, we would like to ask for a clarification regarding chapter elig= ibility.
While there is at least one prominent example of a non-geographic chapter, = the initiative appears to be more of a project nature than a cross region I= SOC member organisation. No doubt it deserves support from ISOC, but = we remain unconvinced that a chapter is the best choice, strategically.

-Peter Koch, ISOC.DE, Memb= er of the Board _______________________________________________
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--_000_0480F540EA121F4D96C04472C8EAB4DA7ED762D8EMBXCLFT4cdcgov_-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Ted, thanks for sharing the background of this. A few comments: - I think SPAM isn't a hot topic any more. - phishing and security is So there is quite some effort to end this and to educate people on this. Unfortunately as outlined before the anti spam campaign mail has many of the properties we tell people to look for, in order to uncover phishing attempts. This is not what one would expect from ISOC. Even more pitiful that we have more recent examples of not meeting the technical standards that we promote in our campaigns as there are promoting Accessibility with a mostly inaccessible Website, promoting Open Standards on a site that does not follow these standards. (I acknowledge there is ongoing work to fix the Web issues.) At the end of the day it is like Peter Koch said: we should listen to and ask those who have the skills and the knowledge to better meet our claims. We should develop a ISOCian spirit that shows technical authority and sensitivity when handling social and policy topics. Best, Klaus Ted Mooney wrote on 16.09.2013 19:07: > Dear all, > > Please find below some additional information on the spam project. > > First a few words of background. The spam project was not in our budget for 2013, but as spam emerged as a contentious issue at WCIT we thought it would be good to show that there are solutions in place to deal with spam. As the issue emerged after we had finalised the 2013 budget it was clear at the outset that any activity would have to be funded through extra budgetary resources. We developed a concept for workshops to be held in developing regions and went out to potential donors to fund the project. There were many positive reactions and the governments and companies we approached agreed that it would be timely to go ahead with these workshops - one in Africa in cooperation with the ATU and the other one in Latin America in cooperation with CITEL - and bring the results to the IGF. One main session there will be devoted to issues such as spam. > > Despite the many positive reactions, funding proved more difficult than anticipated, as governments and most companies were in a similar budgetary situation and did not have that much spare cash to give away. When discussing the funding difficulties internally, there was great support and good will from the revenue team who agreed to help us to make this project happen. In these discussions, someone came up with the idea to try crowd funding to get the funds needed to bridge the gap. > > We agreed to try this out without discussing the modalities. With hindsight, this turned out to be a mistake. We should have communicated in advance what we are trying to achieve with the project -- that is to explain that solutions exist and to make sure that spam is no longer seen to be a major problem - and why to try out crowd funding. > > We tried to experiment with new ways of fund-raising and recognise that what was supposed to be a pilot project did not work out well. Please accept our apologies. We learned a lesson and will do things differently, should we try again to use crowd funding in the future. > > Good news is that the first spam workshop took place last week in Nairobi. Please find below a short report of the Naurobi workshop and a preview of the workshop that is to take place next month in Mendoza, Argentina. > > African Telecommunications Union (ATU) > Spam Seminar for Policy Makers > Nairobi, Kenya > September 9, 2013 > > On September 9th the Internet Society organized a workshop on spam directed at informing policy makers throughout Africa on the process and partnerships needed to better address the unwanted email that is clogging their networks. Spam experts from around globe and from within Africa presented examples of how: some governments have draft legislation to define spam and establish enforcement criteria to address their issue with spam; industry associations such as MAAWG, LAP and ECO work in partnership with governments, ISPs, network operators and bulk mail distributors to develop best practices and codes of conduct to mitigate spam; and technical experts provided details on the tools and operational choices that can be used to limit the impact of spam on a network and end users. There were over 97 policy makers and network operators in attendance at this workshop. Details on the ATU event, including the presentations from the experts can be found at http://www.internetsoci! ety.org/ african-telecommunications-union-atu-combating-spam-policy-makers. > > Inter-American Telecommunication Commission (CITEL) > Spam Seminar for Policy Makers > Mendoza, Argentina > October 7, 2013 > > On October 7th the Internet Society will be facilitating a workshop on spam directed at informing policy makers throughout Latin America on the process and partnerships needed to better address the unwanted email that is clogging their networks. The workshop will have Spam experts from around globe and from within South America present examples and details on how to address the growing issue of spam and what the industry and technical communities are doing in partnership with governments to mitigate spam. > > If you are interested in attending the event, details can be found athttps://www.citel.oas.org/en/Pages/Next-Meetings.aspx > > You're participation, comments and constructive suggestions are welcomed. > > Best regards, > > Ted Mooney > Senior Director, Membership & Services > The Internet Society > 1775 Wiehle Avenue > Reston, VA 20190 USA > Office: +1 703-439-2774 > Cell: +1 301-980-6446 > eMail: mooney at isoc.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > -- Klaus Birkenbihl http://www.klaus-birkenbihl.de -- Klaus Birkenbihl Treasurer and Board member Internet Society German Chapter e.V. 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There are quite rightfully, many = different ideas how to proceed and as we all know, no single framework = will be effective in all cases. =20 =20 The first full meeting of the Chapter Administrative Support Working = Group (there have been conversations and emails pulling the group = together and agreeing an agenda) will take place next week and there = will be a report out to the chapter delegates regarding the outcome and = next steps. =20 =20 Grigori asked that someone address why direct financial support was not = immediately forthcoming. The reason is that at this point, there isn't = a sufficient amount of money to assure fairness or even success, no = fully developed plan to assure buy-in or understand the impact, no = measurement or funds-accounting mechanisms. However, I fully expect = progress on all these fronts by the end of the year and beyond. =20 =20 Let me also point out that a number of chapters have resolved these = issues on their own from which many lessons can be learned. The = autonomy of ISOC Chapters is a critical part of your overall = effectiveness and ability to drive our mission locally. It comes with a = high degree of self-determination and a degree of self-sufficiency which = many of you have not only embraced, but insisted upon. I ask you to = please put aside past resentments regarding the perception of ISOC as a = "rich" organization when support of our global mission on so many fronts = requires investment many times our capability. Senior leadership of the = Internet Society supports constant vigilance and adjustment of our = funding priorities to assure our communities are armed as best they can = be to support the ISOC Global mission. These processes are neither = quick nor simple. But your voices are heard and are having an impact, = however glacial the speed of their implementation. In this light, I = call upon the Cambodian Chapter once again, to reconsider it's decision = to leave the Internet Society and work on a plan for the short and long = term viability of our mission there. =20 With great regards, =20 Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, Membership & Services The Internet Society 1775 Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA Office: +1 703-439-2774 Cell: +1 301-980-6446 eMail: mooney at isoc.org =20 From: Shreedeep Rayamajhi Date: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:26 AM To: Eduardo Diaz Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent Correspondence from the = Cambodian Chapter =20 I meant to say the communication can differ from people and channel so = it has be standardized and centralized accordingly, the confusion in = between the can create problems =20 Cheers to Life=20 Shreedeep Rayamajhi 00977-9841374547(Nepal) 00977-9851049683(Nepal)=20 00977-9813900099 +1(301)485-9395(US) =20 DISCLAIMER: This message is intended only for the recipient. If you are = not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, = distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this = information is strictly prohibited. =20 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Eduardo Diaz = wrote: Shreedeep:=20 =20 Can you be so kind in explaining the meaning of the last sentence in = your message? I can interpret it in many different ways. =20 Thanks =20 -ed President ISOC-Puerto Rico =20 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Shreedeep Rayamajhi = wrote: Dear all We all are proud to be part of the Internet society and to some extent = it is our pride and prestige to say we are located through out the = world. As said big powers come with bigger Responsibilities just like = that we need to address the issue of Cambodian chapter by every possible = means.It counts for every member that stand for change and with such = situation ISOC can certainly help the chapter. Its not just about the = rules and principle but on practical ground if there is a possibility = from the ISOC headquarters then they should help because it makes a = difference.=20 ISOC and its role model of economic independence can be understood and = the pros and cons of funding a chapter is the part of the ISOC board or = whom it may be concern but in reality if there is a possibility for the = Cambodian chapter to help then ISOC should by all means. I think the communication in between the chapters +chapter leaders+ISOC = broad needs to be neutralized in every possible way. =20 Cheers to Life=20 Shreedeep Rayamajhi 00977-9841374547(Nepal) 00977-9851049683(Nepal)=20 00977-9813900099 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shreedeep_Rayamajhi_(activist) +1(301)485-9395 (US) Erreur ! Nom du fichier non = sp=C3=A9cifi=C3=A9. DISCLAIMER: This message is intended only for the recipient. If you are = not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, = distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this = information is strictly prohibited. =20 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Eduard Tric = wrote: A few years ago , i had the opportunity to participate in a task force = called "Isoc chapter of the future". One of the conclusions was that there has to be a balance between what = HQ offer to the capters (direct financial support was barley mentioned , = among other forms of support ) and what chapters should provide to HQ = (some form of activity , or growth). If direct financial support is not an option, the "why" part should be = explained in detail. In that case , indirect support should be enhanced (raise community = grants budget and leadership training for chapter key persons ) Regards, Ed ----- Mesaj original ----- De la: "Grigori Saghyan" C=C4=83tre: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org Trimis: joi, 26 septembrie, 2013 3:07:04 Subiect: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent Correspondence from the = Cambodian Chapter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear All, from the formal point "chapter" is a part of one large structure. I think it is to have clearly defined relations between "Chapters" (or local ISOC structures) and whom? I use "ISOC Global" term, but may be "Management" or "HQ or "Board" is better? For each of proposed terms there is some uncertainty. After Cambodian declaration it looks, that there only one real way to draw attention to Chapter problems. Btw, why it is such strong negative reaction for direct financial support? And as we see, there is an expression " The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can offer". Here we see the author: it is the "Internet Society". Not the Board, not the staff, not the management, not ISOC Global, but the "Internet Society" Logically, I can understand, that as a Chapter, our Chapter was involved in some kind of discussion on that point, there was a voting procedure, and such decision was approved by majority? But we do not participated in such procedure. On the the other hand, if the Chapter is real "chapter" - a part of a large structure the "Internet Society" - it is not necessary to ask Chapter's opinion. Clear definition of terms is one of the strongest requirements everywhere, I think it is one of the most important points today for ISOC community (also undefined term). Grigori Saghyan ISOC.AM On 26.09.2013 0:19, Elver Loho wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't kept up with this email list, but from what I can gather > the Cambodian Chapter wants to disassociate from ISOC due to lack > of direct financial support for the basic running and operation of > the Chapter. > > I do not speak for my Chapter here, but personally I > wholeheartedly support this gesture. If this happens, then maybe, > just maybe, ISOC senior staff will start taking the issue of > providing support for Chapters around the world seriously. > > Right now Chapters seem to exist more as a way for ISOC HQ to show > that they have support and members around the world. We're all > providing a sort of legitimacy for the people at the HQ. Do we get > something back for this? Sort of. I mean, maybe. To some degree. > Though here in Estonia very few people have heard of the Internet > Society while our own local language brand carries a lot of > weight. Your situation may be different. > > Meanwhile we're battling with basic organizational issues, because > we can't even afford to keep up basic maintenance. At times we're > even unable to reply to government's requests for comments on > pending legislation, because we all have regular jobs or businesses > to run. This has to end. If what it takes is for one or more > Chapters to secede from the union, then so be it. If the Cambodian > Chapter goes through with this, I'm willing to put the question of > secession up for debate in our own Chapter. > > I urge other Chapter leaders to consider the same. > > Best, Elver .ee > > elver.loho at gmail.com +372 5661 6933 skype: = elver.loho > > > On 25 September 2013 22:56, Dave Burstein > wrote: >> Cambodian colleagues >> >> I'm a board member in New York and respect your decision but urge >> you to keep working to resolve this. The board of ISOC is >> strongly committed to working with chapters and directed staff to >> improve things. If that's broken down here, as it seems, several >> board members are surely willing to help. They are dedicated, >> committed people who make a point fo responding to ISOC chapter >> members. I or a dozen others on this list can connect you if >> that makes things easier. >> >> They are all strong and independent thinkers, most with a no >> b______ attitude. >> >> >> Ted >> >> Thanks for addressing this; leaving it without response would >> have been painful. This is a crisis for the goverance model of >> ISOC that needs to be resolved at the highest level. As you saw >> from this list, a dozen other chapters think this crucial to >> solve. >> >> But "The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is >> currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can offer" >> doesn't seem to the point. Is there anything in the ISOC charter >> that makes this impossible? If so, please point to it and people >> can bring it to the board. >> >> "Can" is the word you used. I'm guessing this actually is an >> administrative decision made by the senior staff, who can, if >> they choose, simply reverse the decision. Staff are constantly >> making financial decisions an order of magnitude greater. If >> staff feel they can't do this without board approval, that's easy >> to obtain if it's important to ISOC. As many of us know, most of >> the board members are very accessible and dedicated to solving >> ISOC problems if necessary. >> >> "Should" ISOC provide the seed funding here, necessary to get the >> chapter started on the path to independence is the real question. >> I'm sure there's a lot more here than the presumably modest sum >> to share some office space. Likely, a shared or cheap office >> space that fits the legal requirements can be obtained for less >> than the cost of sending one more talking head to IGF Bali. >> Nothing wrong with IGF, but a slightly smaller ISOC delegation >> isn't a fatal wound. >> >> I don't know enough to decide whether ISOC should do more here >> and I'm sure there are major issues that haven't been discussed. >> >> So let's draw in Lynn, Walda or whomever else actually has the >> power to make things happen and prevent a deep organizational >> problem. >> >> db >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ted Mooney >> wrote: >>> >>> To all Chapter Delegates >>> >>> ISOC Staff and, in particular, Membership and Services, are >>> saddened by the recent decision and communication from the >>> Cambodian Chapter regarding their desire to dissociate from the >>> Internet Society for administrative and other support concerns. >>> I believe, however, there has been an unfortunate >>> miscommunication. The Chapter Development and APAC staff have >>> reached out to the Cambodian Chapter on numerous occasions. As >>> many of you know, our Chapter Development team has worked with >>> other chapters to help address issues nearly identical to what >>> the Cambodian Chapter is experiencing. Our offer of >>> collaboration remains. >>> >>> The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is >>> currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can >>> offer. There are, nevertheless many other avenues to address >>> the administrative support of the Chapter, which are both local >>> and long term. Indeed Staff are working with Chapter >>> volunteers and have convened a new Chapter Administrative >>> Support Working Group to address this issue broadly. We hope >>> the Cambodian Chapter will reassess their position and >>> re-engage with ISOC staff as soon as possible. Our Chapter >>> Development staff will reach out once again to the Cambodian >>> Chapter officers. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, Membership & Services The >>> Internet Society 1775 Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA >>> Office: +1 703-439-2774 Cell: +1 = 301-980-6446 eMail: >>> mooney at isoc.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ As an Internet >>> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to >>> this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet >>> Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >> >> >> >> >> -- Editor, Fast Net News, Net Policy News and A Wireless Cloud >> Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley, 2002) and Web Video: >> Making It Great, Getting It Noticed (Peachpit, 2008) >> >> _______________________________________________ As an Internet >> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this >> list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > _______________________________________________ As an Internet > Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this > list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > - -- Grigori Saghyan PGP Key ID: 0x48E4D5DC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSQ3qmAAoJEBp2GIFI5NXc9KsH/jbGq7gEmXS3N3l+SYnV2hv1 4VwS/E5FlSvQ0jojUyAh6gKcIkkteOf8z5xT0OQa1aPMiR7aja2UuuCFRIYz9Gbn j7ieA2Er/ukskpERf/a+SP/SW178MdMrCSYhyyeOq5cAlDcMW6v6GGMk05dWl4+2 aIWz4bY5MZYH6KqjFzr7f/XqYRes31XxgnZ4tJuU9GvLMmNZhnAgOkMYrtLQ551c EBatqhKam5yEBwy4H2x0rHQ2i6RvC2y1GYF1NMKeFMECKJnoAgDVzqqlQAifWAC1 SCgAbDwXvPClbUvy0ofIhjawkXls5+lxRghu7S1qCMEAYrUpbAVcnw9TpiiaeHg=3D =3DLo39 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org -- -- _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org =20 _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org =20 --=20 NOTICE: This email may contain information which is confidential and/or = subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named = addressee only. 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+1 Ted,

I=E2=80=99m following with great attention this discussion initiated = by the Cambodian Chapter intention to leave the Internet society Great = family which lead to the old debate about ISOC=E2=80=99s direct = financial support to Chapters. Before I continue, I would like to = clearly express my opposition to that. For me, It is important and = better for ISOC HQ to empower Chapters rather than giving them money. = Chapters are not =E2=80=9Cnational bureau=E2=80=9D of the Internet = Society. ISOC Chapters and ISOC Global are partners who share the same = vision and the mission. The direct financial support to Chapters for = their administrative and running costs will make the Chapters useless, = dependent and non-sustainable. If we put in place the systematic direct = financial support from ISOC HQ to Chapters, we will see many useless = Chapters flourish around the world only to benefit to that direct = financial support.

The belonging to the ISOC great family comes with advantages but also = responsibilities. The Internet Society is already supporting and = empowering Chapters in many ways:
-       = The community Grants programme gives priority to Chapters = projects
-       = The Event funding programme which helps to keep the Chapter active = each year
-       = The Web presence support
-       = The travel support
-       = Capacities Building and Leadership Program
-       = International Handbook for Chapters
-       = Management Tools
-       = Etc . You can read more on : http://w= ww.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/chapters/lead =
All those programs are ways of =E2=80=9Cindirect=E2=80=9D financial = support of ISOC to Chapters. Many will say it is not enough, but for me = It is enough! Chapters should search for others sources of funding = locally and International using the prestige and add-value of been part = of ISOC. Chapters should think to create recurrent activities that can = generate revenues and help them be independent financially and of course = sustainable. I know Chapters are non-profit organization or group, but = been non-profit do not means that we cannot generate revenues or sell = our expertise (gained from ISOC and others Chapters) and services = locally. For example, when we organize trainings, we can ask = participants for small participation fees and this can help us overcome = our administrative and running costs. But we can only do this in a = sustainable way when we are registered as a legal entity in our = respective country.

Let come back to issue which brings this discussion live: Making ISOC = Cambodia Chapter a legal entity in Cambodia.
I know how It is difficult to establish a non-profit organization in = many countries, especially in developing countries. When I started the = =E2=80=9Cre-formation=E2=80=9D process of ISOC Cameroon Chapter, I made = that goal my N=C2=B01 priority and which the help (time and money) of = others founding members, we achieved it. We had the choice at that time = to legalize the Cameroon Chapter as a NGO or Association. The process to = become an NGO was too complicated, so we choice to be registered as an = Association (a sort of small NGO). This is very important because = Chapters can only be respected locally and interact freely with = government, private sector and other groups when they are registered as = a legal entity by the local administrative authorities. =
Based on that experience, I suggest to our Cambodia Chapter colleagues = to explore all alternatives of legal recognition in their country. Be = registered as a NGO is not the only way to become a legal non-profit = organization or entity, I hope this is true in Cambodia too. =

When the Chapter is registered as a legal entity (NGO, = Association=E2=80=A6) in its respective country, it can easily search or = apply to local funding opportunities (government grants, big national = corporates grants=E2=80=A6). The formation an ISOC Chapter is a process = and Chapter founding members are aware during the process that ISOC HQ = will not be the only source of funding for the Chapter (that=E2=80=99s = why there is a mention about =E2=80=9CChapter supporters=E2=80=9D in the = application form and means of funding the draft By-Laws). Let=E2=80=99s = search for others sources of funding and thanks the ISOC HQ for all It = is already offering us rather than fighting for something which will = make us useless.

Sorry for the long email.
Best regards,
Victor Ndonnang

De : = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org = [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] De la part de = Ted Mooney
Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 26 septembre 2013 = 17:10
=C3=80 : ISOC Chapter = Delegates
Objet : Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent = Correspondence from the Cambodian = Chapter

From my perspective these are all very good thoughts that have not only = made me reconsider the way I speak to the community at large, but also = how to move forward with a more productive dialog regarding = administrative support for Chapters. There are quite rightfully, = many different ideas how to proceed and as we all know, no single = framework will be effective in all cases. =

The first full meeting of the Chapter Administrative Support Working = Group (there have been conversations and emails pulling the group = together and agreeing an agenda) will take place next week and there = will be a report out to the chapter delegates regarding the outcome and = next steps.

Grigori asked that someone address why direct financial support was not = immediately forthcoming. The reason is that at this point, there = isn't a sufficient amount of money to assure fairness or even success, = no fully developed plan to assure buy-in or understand the impact, no = measurement or funds-accounting mechanisms. However, I fully = expect progress on all these fronts by the end of the year and beyond. =

Let me also point out that a number of chapters have resolved these = issues on their own from which many lessons can be learned. The = autonomy of ISOC Chapters is a critical part of your overall = effectiveness and ability to drive our mission locally. It comes = with a high degree of self-determination and a degree of = self-sufficiency which many of you have not only embraced, but insisted = upon. I ask you to please put aside past resentments regarding the = perception of ISOC as a "rich" organization when support = of our global mission on so many fronts requires investment many times = our capability. Senior leadership of the Internet Society supports = constant vigilance and adjustment of our funding priorities to assure = our communities are armed as best they can be to support the ISOC Global = mission. These processes are neither quick nor simple. But = your voices are heard and are having an impact, however glacial the = speed of their implementation. In this light, I call upon the = Cambodian Chapter once again, to reconsider it's decision to leave the = Internet Society and work on a plan for the short and long term = viability of our mission there.

With great regards,

Ted
Ted Mooney
Senior Director, Membership & = Services
The Internet Society
1775 Wiehle Avenue
Reston, VA 20190 USA
Office: +1 703-439-2774
Cell: +1 301-980-6446
eMail: mooney at isoc.org

From: Shreedeep Rayamajhi <weaker41 at gmail.com>
Date:= Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:26 AM
To: Eduardo Diaz = <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elist= s.isoc.org>
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent = Correspondence from the Cambodian = Chapter

I meant to say the communication can differ from people and channel so = it has be standardized and centralized accordingly, the confusion in = between the can create problems =

Cheers to Life
Shreedeep = Rayamajhi
00977-9841374547(Nepal)
00977-9851049683(Nepal) =
00977-9813900099
+1(301)485-9395(US)

DISCLAIMER: This message is intended only for = the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified = that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance = on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com> = wrote:
Shreedeep:

Can you be so kind in explaining the meaning of the last sentence in = your message? I can interpret it in = many different ways.

Thanks

-ed
President
ISOC-Puerto Rico

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Shreedeep Rayamajhi <weaker41 at gmail.com> = wrote:
Dear all

We all are proud to be part of the Internet society and = to some extent it is our pride and prestige to say we are located = through out the world. As said big powers come with bigger = Responsibilities just like that we need to address the issue of = Cambodian chapter by every possible means.It counts for every member = that stand for change and with such situation ISOC can certainly help = the chapter. Its not just about the rules and principle but on practical = ground if there is a possibility from the ISOC headquarters then they = should help because it makes a difference.

ISOC and its = role model of economic independence can be understood and the pros and = cons of funding a chapter is the part of the ISOC board or whom it may = be concern but in reality if there is a possibility for the Cambodian = chapter to help then ISOC should by all means.

I think the = communication in between the chapters +chapter leaders+ISOC broad needs = to be neutralized in every possible way. =

Cheers to Life
Shreedeep = Rayamajhi
00977-9841374547(Nepal)
00977-9851049683(Nepal) =
00977-9813900099
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shreedeep_Rayamajhi_(activ= ist)
+1(301)485-9395(US)
Erreur ! Nom du fichier non = sp=C3=A9cifi=C3=A9.

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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Eduard Tric <eduard.tric at isoc.ro> = wrote:
A few years ago , i had the opportunity to participate in a task force = called "Isoc chapter of the future".
One of the conclusions = was that there has to be a balance between what HQ offer to the capters = (direct financial support was barley mentioned , among other forms of = support ) and what chapters should provide to HQ (some form of activity = , or growth).
If direct financial support is not an option, the = "why" part should be explained in detail.
In that case , = indirect support should be enhanced (raise community grants budget and = leadership training for chapter key persons = )
Regards,
Ed

----- Mesaj original -----
De la: = "Grigori Saghyan" <gregor at arminco.com>
C=C4=83tre: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Trimis: joi, = 26 septembrie, 2013 3:07:04
Subiect: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent = Correspondence from the Cambodian = Chapter

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Hash: SHA1

Dear = All,
from the formal point "chapter" is a part of one = large structure. I
think it is to have clearly defined = relations between "Chapters" (or
local ISOC = structures) and whom? I use "ISOC Global" term, but may = be
"Management" or "HQ or "Board" is better? = For each of proposed terms
there is some uncertainty.

After = Cambodian declaration it looks, that there only one real way = to
draw attention to Chapter problems.

Btw, why it is such = strong negative reaction for direct financial
support? And as = we see, there is an expression " The issue of the lack
of direct = financial transfers is currently not among
the solutions the Internet = Society can offer".

Here we see the author: = it is the "Internet Society".
Not the = Board, not the staff, not the management, not ISOC Global,
but = the "Internet Society"
Logically, I can = understand, that as a Chapter, our Chapter = was
involved in some kind of discussion on that point, there was a = voting
procedure, and such decision was approved by majority? = But we do not
participated in such procedure.
On the the = other hand, if the Chapter is real "chapter" - a part of = a
large structure the "Internet Society" - it is not = necessary to ask
Chapter's opinion.

Clear definition of terms = is one of the strongest requirements
everywhere, I think it is one of = the most important points today for
ISOC community (also = undefined term).

Grigori Saghyan
ISOC.AM

On 26.09.2013 0:19, = Elver Loho wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I haven't kept up with = this email list, but from what I can gather
> the Cambodian = Chapter wants to disassociate from ISOC due to lack
> of direct = financial support for the basic running and operation of
> the = Chapter.
>
> I do not speak for my Chapter here, but = personally I
> wholeheartedly support this gesture. If this = happens, then maybe,
> just maybe, ISOC senior staff will start = taking the issue of
> providing support for Chapters around the = world seriously.
>
> Right now Chapters seem to exist more = as a way for ISOC HQ to show
> that they have support and members = around the world. We're all
> providing a sort of legitimacy for = the people at the HQ. Do we get
> something back for this? Sort = of. I mean, maybe. To some degree.
> Though here in Estonia very = few people have heard of the Internet
> Society while our own = local language brand carries a lot of
> weight. Your situation may = be different.
>
> Meanwhile we're battling with basic = organizational issues, because
> we can't even afford to keep up = basic maintenance. At times we're
> even unable to reply to = government's requests for comments on
> pending legislation, = because we all have regular jobs or businesses
> to run. This has = to end. If what it takes is for one or more
> Chapters to secede = from the union, then so be it. If the Cambodian
> Chapter goes = through with this, I'm willing to put the question of
> secession = up for debate in our own Chapter.
>
> I urge other Chapter = leaders to consider the same.
>
> Best, Elver = .ee
>
> elver.loho at gmail.com +372 5661 6933 = skype: elver.loho
>
>
> On 25 September 2013 22:56, = Dave Burstein <daveb at dslprime.com>
> wrote:
>> = Cambodian colleagues
>>
>> I'm a board member in New = York and respect your decision but urge
>> you to keep working = to resolve this. The board of ISOC is
>> strongly committed to = working with chapters and directed staff to
>> improve things. = If that's broken down here, as it seems, several
>> board = members are surely willing to help. They are dedicated,
>> = committed people who make a point fo responding to ISOC = chapter
>> members. I or a dozen others on this list can = connect you if
>> that makes things = easier.
>>
>> They are all strong and independent = thinkers, most with a no
>> b______ = attitude.
>>
>>
>> = Ted
>>
>> Thanks for addressing this; leaving it = without response would
>> have been painful. This is a crisis = for the goverance model of
>> ISOC that needs to be resolved at = the highest level. As you saw
>> from this list, a dozen other = chapters think this crucial to
>> = solve.
>>
>> But "The issue of the lack of direct = financial transfers is
>> currently not among the solutions the = Internet Society can offer"
>> doesn't seem to the point. = Is there anything in the ISOC charter
>> that makes this = impossible? If so, please point to it and people
>> can bring = it to the board.
>>
>> "Can" is the word you = used. I'm guessing this actually is an
>> administrative = decision made by the senior staff, who can, if
>> they choose, = simply reverse the decision. Staff are constantly
>> making = financial decisions an order of magnitude greater. If
>> = staff feel they can't do this without board approval, that's = easy
>> to obtain if it's important to ISOC. As many of us = know, most of
>> the board members are very accessible and = dedicated to solving
>> ISOC problems if = necessary.
>>
>> "Should" ISOC provide the = seed funding here, necessary to get the
>> chapter started on = the path to independence is the real question.
>> I'm sure = there's a lot more here than the presumably modest sum
>> to = share some office space. Likely, a shared or cheap office
>> = space that fits the legal requirements can be obtained for = less
>> than the cost of sending one more talking head to IGF = Bali.
>> Nothing wrong with IGF, but a slightly smaller ISOC = delegation
>> isn't a fatal wound.
>>
>> I = don't know enough to decide whether ISOC should do more here
>> = and I'm sure there are major issues that haven't been = discussed.
>>
>> So let's draw in Lynn, Walda or = whomever else actually has the
>> power to make things happen = and prevent a deep organizational
>> = problem.
>>
>> db
>>
>>
>> = On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ted Mooney <mooney at isoc.org>
>> = wrote:
>>>
>>> To all Chapter = Delegates
>>>
>>> ISOC Staff and, in particular, = Membership and Services, are
>>> saddened by the = recent decision and communication from the
>>> Cambodian = Chapter regarding their desire to dissociate from the
>>> = Internet Society for administrative and other support = concerns.
>>> I believe, however, there has been an = unfortunate
>>> miscommunication. The Chapter = Development and APAC staff have
>>> reached out to the = Cambodian Chapter on numerous occasions. As
>>> many = of you know, our Chapter Development team has worked = with
>>> other chapters to help address issues nearly = identical to what
>>> the Cambodian Chapter is experiencing. = Our offer of
>>> collaboration = remains.
>>>
>>> The issue of the lack of direct = financial transfers is
>>> currently not among the solutions = the Internet Society can
>>> offer. There are, = nevertheless many other avenues to address
>>> the = administrative support of the Chapter, which are both = local
>>> and long term. Indeed Staff are working with = Chapter
>>> volunteers and have convened a new Chapter = Administrative
>>> Support Working Group to address this = issue broadly. We hope
>>> the Cambodian Chapter will = reassess their position and
>>> re-engage with ISOC staff as = soon as possible. Our Chapter
>>> Development staff will = reach out once again to the Cambodian
>>> Chapter = officers.
>>>
>>> Best = regards,
>>>
>>> Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, = Membership & Services The
>>> Internet Society 1775 = Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA
>>> Office: +1 703-439-2774 = Cell: +1 = 301-980-6446 eMail:
>>> mooney at isoc.org
>>>
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>>
= >>
>>
>> -- Editor, Fast Net News, Net Policy = News and A Wireless Cloud
>> Author with Jennie Bourne = DSL (Wiley, 2002) and Web Video:
>> Making It Great, = Getting It Noticed (Peachpit, 2008)
>>
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------=_NextPart_000_03DA_01CEBB8A.B26CD180-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: made me reconsider the way I speak to the community at large, but also = how to move forward with a more productive dialog regarding = administrative support for Chapters. There are quite rightfully, many = different ideas how to proceed and as we all know, no single framework = will be effective in all cases. =20 =20 The first full meeting of the Chapter Administrative Support Working = Group (there have been conversations and emails pulling the group = together and agreeing an agenda) will take place next week and there = will be a report out to the chapter delegates regarding the outcome and = next steps. =20 =20 Grigori asked that someone address why direct financial support was not = immediately forthcoming. The reason is that at this point, there isn't = a sufficient amount of money to assure fairness or even success, no = fully developed plan to assure buy-in or understand the impact, no = measurement or funds-accounting mechanisms. However, I fully expect = progress on all these fronts by the end of the year and beyond. =20 =20 Let me also point out that a number of chapters have resolved these = issues on their own from which many lessons can be learned. The = autonomy of ISOC Chapters is a critical part of your overall = effectiveness and ability to drive our mission locally. It comes with a = high degree of self-determination and a degree of self-sufficiency which = many of you have not only embraced, but insisted upon. I ask you to = please put aside past resentments regarding the perception of ISOC as a = "rich" organization when support of our global mission on so many fronts = requires investment many times our capability. Senior leadership of the = Internet Society supports constant vigilance and adjustment of our = funding priorities to assure our communities are armed as best they can = be to support the ISOC Global mission. These processes are neither = quick nor simple. But your voices are heard and are having an impact, = however glacial the speed of their implementation. In this light, I = call upon the Cambodian Chapter once again, to reconsider it's decision = to leave the Internet Society and work on a plan for the short and long = term viability of our mission there. =20 With great regards, =20 Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, Membership & Services The Internet Society 1775 Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA Office: +1 703-439-2774 Cell: +1 301-980-6446 eMail: mooney at isoc.org =20 From: Shreedeep Rayamajhi Date: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:26 AM To: Eduardo Diaz Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent Correspondence from the = Cambodian Chapter =20 I meant to say the communication can differ from people and channel so = it has be standardized and centralized accordingly, the confusion in = between the can create problems =20 Cheers to Life=20 Shreedeep Rayamajhi 00977-9841374547(Nepal) 00977-9851049683(Nepal)=20 00977-9813900099 +1(301)485-9395(US) Image removed by sender. DISCLAIMER: This message is intended only for the recipient. If you are = not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, = distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this = information is strictly prohibited. =20 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Eduardo Diaz = wrote: Shreedeep:=20 =20 Can you be so kind in explaining the meaning of the last sentence in = your message? I can interpret it in many different ways. =20 Thanks =20 -ed President ISOC-Puerto Rico =20 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Shreedeep Rayamajhi = wrote: Dear all We all are proud to be part of the Internet society and to some extent = it is our pride and prestige to say we are located through out the = world. As said big powers come with bigger Responsibilities just like = that we need to address the issue of Cambodian chapter by every possible = means.It counts for every member that stand for change and with such = situation ISOC can certainly help the chapter. Its not just about the = rules and principle but on practical ground if there is a possibility = from the ISOC headquarters then they should help because it makes a = difference.=20 ISOC and its role model of economic independence can be understood and = the pros and cons of funding a chapter is the part of the ISOC board or = whom it may be concern but in reality if there is a possibility for the = Cambodian chapter to help then ISOC should by all means. I think the communication in between the chapters +chapter leaders+ISOC = broad needs to be neutralized in every possible way. =20 Cheers to Life=20 Shreedeep Rayamajhi 00977-9841374547(Nepal) 00977-9851049683(Nepal)=20 00977-9813900099 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shreedeep_Rayamajhi_(activist) +1(301)485-9395 (US) Erreur ! Nom du fichier non = sp=C3=A9cifi=C3=A9. DISCLAIMER: This message is intended only for the recipient. If you are = not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, = distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this = information is strictly prohibited. =20 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Eduard Tric = wrote: A few years ago , i had the opportunity to participate in a task force = called "Isoc chapter of the future". One of the conclusions was that there has to be a balance between what = HQ offer to the capters (direct financial support was barley mentioned , = among other forms of support ) and what chapters should provide to HQ = (some form of activity , or growth). If direct financial support is not an option, the "why" part should be = explained in detail. In that case , indirect support should be enhanced (raise community = grants budget and leadership training for chapter key persons ) Regards, Ed ----- Mesaj original ----- De la: "Grigori Saghyan" C=C4=83tre: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org Trimis: joi, 26 septembrie, 2013 3:07:04 Subiect: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent Correspondence from the = Cambodian Chapter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear All, from the formal point "chapter" is a part of one large structure. I think it is to have clearly defined relations between "Chapters" (or local ISOC structures) and whom? I use "ISOC Global" term, but may be "Management" or "HQ or "Board" is better? For each of proposed terms there is some uncertainty. After Cambodian declaration it looks, that there only one real way to draw attention to Chapter problems. Btw, why it is such strong negative reaction for direct financial support? And as we see, there is an expression " The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can offer". Here we see the author: it is the "Internet Society". Not the Board, not the staff, not the management, not ISOC Global, but the "Internet Society" Logically, I can understand, that as a Chapter, our Chapter was involved in some kind of discussion on that point, there was a voting procedure, and such decision was approved by majority? But we do not participated in such procedure. On the the other hand, if the Chapter is real "chapter" - a part of a large structure the "Internet Society" - it is not necessary to ask Chapter's opinion. Clear definition of terms is one of the strongest requirements everywhere, I think it is one of the most important points today for ISOC community (also undefined term). Grigori Saghyan ISOC.AM On 26.09.2013 0:19, Elver Loho wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't kept up with this email list, but from what I can gather > the Cambodian Chapter wants to disassociate from ISOC due to lack > of direct financial support for the basic running and operation of > the Chapter. > > I do not speak for my Chapter here, but personally I > wholeheartedly support this gesture. If this happens, then maybe, > just maybe, ISOC senior staff will start taking the issue of > providing support for Chapters around the world seriously. > > Right now Chapters seem to exist more as a way for ISOC HQ to show > that they have support and members around the world. We're all > providing a sort of legitimacy for the people at the HQ. Do we get > something back for this? Sort of. I mean, maybe. To some degree. > Though here in Estonia very few people have heard of the Internet > Society while our own local language brand carries a lot of > weight. Your situation may be different. > > Meanwhile we're battling with basic organizational issues, because > we can't even afford to keep up basic maintenance. At times we're > even unable to reply to government's requests for comments on > pending legislation, because we all have regular jobs or businesses > to run. This has to end. If what it takes is for one or more > Chapters to secede from the union, then so be it. If the Cambodian > Chapter goes through with this, I'm willing to put the question of > secession up for debate in our own Chapter. > > I urge other Chapter leaders to consider the same. > > Best, Elver .ee > > elver.loho at gmail.com +372 5661 6933 skype: = elver.loho > > > On 25 September 2013 22:56, Dave Burstein > wrote: >> Cambodian colleagues >> >> I'm a board member in New York and respect your decision but urge >> you to keep working to resolve this. The board of ISOC is >> strongly committed to working with chapters and directed staff to >> improve things. If that's broken down here, as it seems, several >> board members are surely willing to help. They are dedicated, >> committed people who make a point fo responding to ISOC chapter >> members. I or a dozen others on this list can connect you if >> that makes things easier. >> >> They are all strong and independent thinkers, most with a no >> b______ attitude. >> >> >> Ted >> >> Thanks for addressing this; leaving it without response would >> have been painful. This is a crisis for the goverance model of >> ISOC that needs to be resolved at the highest level. As you saw >> from this list, a dozen other chapters think this crucial to >> solve. >> >> But "The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is >> currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can offer" >> doesn't seem to the point. Is there anything in the ISOC charter >> that makes this impossible? If so, please point to it and people >> can bring it to the board. >> >> "Can" is the word you used. I'm guessing this actually is an >> administrative decision made by the senior staff, who can, if >> they choose, simply reverse the decision. Staff are constantly >> making financial decisions an order of magnitude greater. If >> staff feel they can't do this without board approval, that's easy >> to obtain if it's important to ISOC. As many of us know, most of >> the board members are very accessible and dedicated to solving >> ISOC problems if necessary. >> >> "Should" ISOC provide the seed funding here, necessary to get the >> chapter started on the path to independence is the real question. >> I'm sure there's a lot more here than the presumably modest sum >> to share some office space. Likely, a shared or cheap office >> space that fits the legal requirements can be obtained for less >> than the cost of sending one more talking head to IGF Bali. >> Nothing wrong with IGF, but a slightly smaller ISOC delegation >> isn't a fatal wound. >> >> I don't know enough to decide whether ISOC should do more here >> and I'm sure there are major issues that haven't been discussed. >> >> So let's draw in Lynn, Walda or whomever else actually has the >> power to make things happen and prevent a deep organizational >> problem. >> >> db >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ted Mooney >> wrote: >>> >>> To all Chapter Delegates >>> >>> ISOC Staff and, in particular, Membership and Services, are >>> saddened by the recent decision and communication from the >>> Cambodian Chapter regarding their desire to dissociate from the >>> Internet Society for administrative and other support concerns. >>> I believe, however, there has been an unfortunate >>> miscommunication. The Chapter Development and APAC staff have >>> reached out to the Cambodian Chapter on numerous occasions. As >>> many of you know, our Chapter Development team has worked with >>> other chapters to help address issues nearly identical to what >>> the Cambodian Chapter is experiencing. Our offer of >>> collaboration remains. >>> >>> The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is >>> currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can >>> offer. There are, nevertheless many other avenues to address >>> the administrative support of the Chapter, which are both local >>> and long term. Indeed Staff are working with Chapter >>> volunteers and have convened a new Chapter Administrative >>> Support Working Group to address this issue broadly. We hope >>> the Cambodian Chapter will reassess their position and >>> re-engage with ISOC staff as soon as possible. Our Chapter >>> Development staff will reach out once again to the Cambodian >>> Chapter officers. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, Membership & Services The >>> Internet Society 1775 Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA >>> Office: +1 703-439-2774 Cell: +1 = 301-980-6446 eMail: >>> mooney at isoc.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ As an Internet >>> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to >>> this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet >>> Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >> >> >> >> >> -- Editor, Fast Net News, Net Policy News and A Wireless Cloud >> Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley, 2002) and Web Video: >> Making It Great, Getting It Noticed (Peachpit, 2008) >> >> _______________________________________________ As an Internet >> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this >> list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > _______________________________________________ As an Internet > Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this > list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > - -- Grigori Saghyan PGP Key ID: 0x48E4D5DC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSQ3qmAAoJEBp2GIFI5NXc9KsH/jbGq7gEmXS3N3l+SYnV2hv1 4VwS/E5FlSvQ0jojUyAh6gKcIkkteOf8z5xT0OQa1aPMiR7aja2UuuCFRIYz9Gbn j7ieA2Er/ukskpERf/a+SP/SW178MdMrCSYhyyeOq5cAlDcMW6v6GGMk05dWl4+2 aIWz4bY5MZYH6KqjFzr7f/XqYRes31XxgnZ4tJuU9GvLMmNZhnAgOkMYrtLQ551c EBatqhKam5yEBwy4H2x0rHQ2i6RvC2y1GYF1NMKeFMECKJnoAgDVzqqlQAifWAC1 SCgAbDwXvPClbUvy0ofIhjawkXls5+lxRghu7S1qCMEAYrUpbAVcnw9TpiiaeHg=3D =3DLo39 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org -- -- _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org =20 _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org =20 --=20 NOTICE: This email may contain information which is confidential and/or = subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named = addressee only. 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From:= = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org = [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of = Victor Ndonnang
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:06 = PM
To: 'Ted Mooney'; 'ISOC Chapter = Delegates'
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent = Correspondence from the Cambodian = Chapter

+1 = Ted,

I=E2=80=99m = following with great attention this discussion initiated by the = Cambodian Chapter intention to leave the Internet society Great family = which lead to the old debate about ISOC=E2=80=99s direct financial = support to Chapters. Before I continue, I would like to clearly express = my opposition to that. For me, It is important and better for ISOC HQ to = empower Chapters rather than giving them money. Chapters are not = =E2=80=9Cnational bureau=E2=80=9D of the Internet Society. ISOC Chapters = and ISOC Global are partners who share the same vision and the mission. = The direct financial support to Chapters for their administrative and = running costs will make the Chapters useless, dependent and = non-sustainable. If we put in place the systematic direct financial = support from ISOC HQ to Chapters, we will see many useless Chapters = flourish around the world only to benefit to that direct financial = support.

The = belonging to the ISOC great family comes with advantages but also = responsibilities. The Internet Society is already supporting and = empowering Chapters in many ways:
-          = The = community Grants programme gives priority to Chapters = projects
-          = The Event = funding programme which helps to keep the Chapter active each = year
-          = The Web = presence support
-          = The travel = support
-          = Capacities = Building and Leadership Program
-          = International= Handbook for Chapters
-          = Management = Tools
-          = Etc . You = can read more on : http://w= ww.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/chapters/lead =
All those = programs are ways of =E2=80=9Cindirect=E2=80=9D financial support of = ISOC to Chapters. Many will say it is not enough, but for me It is = enough! Chapters should search for others sources of funding locally and = International using the prestige and add-value of been part of ISOC. = Chapters should think to create recurrent activities that can generate = revenues and help them be independent financially and of course = sustainable. I know Chapters are non-profit organization or group, but = been non-profit do not means that we cannot generate revenues or sell = our expertise (gained from ISOC and others Chapters) and services = locally. For example, when we organize trainings, we can ask = participants for small participation fees and this can help us overcome = our administrative and running costs. But we can only do this in a = sustainable way when we are registered as a legal entity in our = respective country.

Let come = back to issue which brings this discussion live: Making ISOC Cambodia = Chapter a legal entity in Cambodia.
I know how = It is difficult to establish a non-profit organization in many = countries, especially in developing countries. When I started the = =E2=80=9Cre-formation=E2=80=9D process of ISOC Cameroon Chapter, I made = that goal my N=C2=B01 priority and which the help (time and money) of = others founding members, we achieved it. We had the choice at that time = to legalize the Cameroon Chapter as a NGO or Association. The process to = become an NGO was too complicated, so we choice to be registered as an = Association (a sort of small NGO). This is very important because = Chapters can only be respected locally and interact freely with = government, private sector and other groups when they are registered as = a legal entity by the local administrative authorities. =
Based on = that experience, I suggest to our Cambodia Chapter colleagues to explore = all alternatives of legal recognition in their country. Be registered as = a NGO is not the only way to become a legal non-profit organization or = entity, I hope this is true in Cambodia too.

When the = Chapter is registered as a legal entity (NGO, Association=E2=80=A6) in = its respective country, it can easily search or apply to local funding = opportunities (government grants, big national corporates = grants=E2=80=A6). The formation an ISOC Chapter is a process and Chapter = founding members are aware during the process that ISOC HQ will not be = the only source of funding for the Chapter (that=E2=80=99s why there is = a mention about =E2=80=9CChapter supporters=E2=80=9D in the application = form and means of funding the draft By-Laws). Let=E2=80=99s search for = others sources of funding and thanks the ISOC HQ for all It is already = offering us rather than fighting for something which will make us = useless.

Sorry for = the long email.
Best = regards,
Victor = Ndonnang

De : = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org = [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] De la part de = Ted Mooney
Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 26 septembre 2013 = 17:10
=C3=80 : ISOC Chapter = Delegates
Objet : Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent = Correspondence from the Cambodian = Chapter

From my perspective these are all very good thoughts that have not only = made me reconsider the way I speak to the community at large, but also = how to move forward with a more productive dialog regarding = administrative support for Chapters. There are quite rightfully, = many different ideas how to proceed and as we all know, no single = framework will be effective in all cases. =

The first full meeting of the Chapter Administrative Support Working = Group (there have been conversations and emails pulling the group = together and agreeing an agenda) will take place next week and there = will be a report out to the chapter delegates regarding the outcome and = next steps.

Grigori asked that someone address why direct financial support was not = immediately forthcoming. The reason is that at this point, there = isn't a sufficient amount of money to assure fairness or even success, = no fully developed plan to assure buy-in or understand the impact, no = measurement or funds-accounting mechanisms. However, I fully = expect progress on all these fronts by the end of the year and beyond. =

Let me also point out that a number of chapters have resolved these = issues on their own from which many lessons can be learned. The = autonomy of ISOC Chapters is a critical part of your overall = effectiveness and ability to drive our mission locally. It comes = with a high degree of self-determination and a degree of = self-sufficiency which many of you have not only embraced, but insisted = upon. I ask you to please put aside past resentments regarding the = perception of ISOC as a "rich" organization when support = of our global mission on so many fronts requires investment many times = our capability. Senior leadership of the Internet Society supports = constant vigilance and adjustment of our funding priorities to assure = our communities are armed as best they can be to support the ISOC Global = mission. These processes are neither quick nor simple. But = your voices are heard and are having an impact, however glacial the = speed of their implementation. In this light, I call upon the = Cambodian Chapter once again, to reconsider it's decision to leave the = Internet Society and work on a plan for the short and long term = viability of our mission there.

With great regards,

Ted
Ted Mooney
Senior Director, Membership & = Services
The Internet Society
1775 Wiehle Avenue
Reston, VA 20190 USA
Office: +1 703-439-2774
Cell: +1 301-980-6446
eMail: mooney at isoc.org

From: Shreedeep Rayamajhi <weaker41 at gmail.com>
Date:= Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:26 AM
To: Eduardo Diaz = <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elist= s.isoc.org>
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent = Correspondence from the Cambodian = Chapter

I meant to say the communication can differ from people and channel so = it has be standardized and centralized accordingly, the confusion in = between the can create problems =

Cheers to Life
Shreedeep = Rayamajhi
00977-9841374547(Nepal)
00977-9851049683(Nepal) =
00977-9813900099
+1(301)485-9395(US)

DISCLAIMER: This message is intended only for = the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified = that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance = on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com> = wrote:
Shreedeep:

Can you be so kind in explaining the meaning of the last sentence in = your message? I can interpret it in = many different ways.

Thanks

-ed
President
ISOC-Puerto Rico

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Shreedeep Rayamajhi <weaker41 at gmail.com> = wrote:
Dear all

We all are proud to be part of the Internet society and = to some extent it is our pride and prestige to say we are located = through out the world. As said big powers come with bigger = Responsibilities just like that we need to address the issue of = Cambodian chapter by every possible means.It counts for every member = that stand for change and with such situation ISOC can certainly help = the chapter. Its not just about the rules and principle but on practical = ground if there is a possibility from the ISOC headquarters then they = should help because it makes a difference.

ISOC and its = role model of economic independence can be understood and the pros and = cons of funding a chapter is the part of the ISOC board or whom it may = be concern but in reality if there is a possibility for the Cambodian = chapter to help then ISOC should by all means.

I think the = communication in between the chapters +chapter leaders+ISOC broad needs = to be neutralized in every possible way. =

Cheers to Life
Shreedeep = Rayamajhi
00977-9841374547(Nepal)
00977-9851049683(Nepal) =
00977-9813900099
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Eduard Tric <eduard.tric at isoc.ro> = wrote:
A few years ago , i had the opportunity to participate in a task force = called "Isoc chapter of the future".
One of the conclusions = was that there has to be a balance between what HQ offer to the capters = (direct financial support was barley mentioned , among other forms of = support ) and what chapters should provide to HQ (some form of activity = , or growth).
If direct financial support is not an option, the = "why" part should be explained in detail.
In that case , = indirect support should be enhanced (raise community grants budget and = leadership training for chapter key persons = )
Regards,
Ed

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De la: = "Grigori Saghyan" <gregor at arminco.com>
C=C4=83tre: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Trimis: joi, = 26 septembrie, 2013 3:07:04
Subiect: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent = Correspondence from the Cambodian = Chapter

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Dear = All,
from the formal point "chapter" is a part of one = large structure. I
think it is to have clearly defined = relations between "Chapters" (or
local ISOC = structures) and whom? I use "ISOC Global" term, but may = be
"Management" or "HQ or "Board" is better? = For each of proposed terms
there is some uncertainty.

After = Cambodian declaration it looks, that there only one real way = to
draw attention to Chapter problems.

Btw, why it is such = strong negative reaction for direct financial
support? And as = we see, there is an expression " The issue of the lack
of direct = financial transfers is currently not among
the solutions the Internet = Society can offer".

Here we see the author: = it is the "Internet Society".
Not the = Board, not the staff, not the management, not ISOC Global,
but = the "Internet Society"
Logically, I can = understand, that as a Chapter, our Chapter = was
involved in some kind of discussion on that point, there was a = voting
procedure, and such decision was approved by majority? = But we do not
participated in such procedure.
On the the = other hand, if the Chapter is real "chapter" - a part of = a
large structure the "Internet Society" - it is not = necessary to ask
Chapter's opinion.

Clear definition of terms = is one of the strongest requirements
everywhere, I think it is one of = the most important points today for
ISOC community (also = undefined term).

Grigori Saghyan
ISOC.AM

On 26.09.2013 0:19, = Elver Loho wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I haven't kept up with = this email list, but from what I can gather
> the Cambodian = Chapter wants to disassociate from ISOC due to lack
> of direct = financial support for the basic running and operation of
> the = Chapter.
>
> I do not speak for my Chapter here, but = personally I
> wholeheartedly support this gesture. If this = happens, then maybe,
> just maybe, ISOC senior staff will start = taking the issue of
> providing support for Chapters around the = world seriously.
>
> Right now Chapters seem to exist more = as a way for ISOC HQ to show
> that they have support and members = around the world. We're all
> providing a sort of legitimacy for = the people at the HQ. Do we get
> something back for this? Sort = of. I mean, maybe. To some degree.
> Though here in Estonia very = few people have heard of the Internet
> Society while our own = local language brand carries a lot of
> weight. Your situation may = be different.
>
> Meanwhile we're battling with basic = organizational issues, because
> we can't even afford to keep up = basic maintenance. At times we're
> even unable to reply to = government's requests for comments on
> pending legislation, = because we all have regular jobs or businesses
> to run. This has = to end. If what it takes is for one or more
> Chapters to secede = from the union, then so be it. If the Cambodian
> Chapter goes = through with this, I'm willing to put the question of
> secession = up for debate in our own Chapter.
>
> I urge other Chapter = leaders to consider the same.
>
> Best, Elver = .ee
>
> elver.loho at gmail.com +372 5661 6933 = skype: elver.loho
>
>
> On 25 September 2013 22:56, = Dave Burstein <daveb at dslprime.com>
> wrote:
>> = Cambodian colleagues
>>
>> I'm a board member in New = York and respect your decision but urge
>> you to keep working = to resolve this. The board of ISOC is
>> strongly committed to = working with chapters and directed staff to
>> improve things. = If that's broken down here, as it seems, several
>> board = members are surely willing to help. They are dedicated,
>> = committed people who make a point fo responding to ISOC = chapter
>> members. I or a dozen others on this list can = connect you if
>> that makes things = easier.
>>
>> They are all strong and independent = thinkers, most with a no
>> b______ = attitude.
>>
>>
>> = Ted
>>
>> Thanks for addressing this; leaving it = without response would
>> have been painful. This is a crisis = for the goverance model of
>> ISOC that needs to be resolved at = the highest level. As you saw
>> from this list, a dozen other = chapters think this crucial to
>> = solve.
>>
>> But "The issue of the lack of direct = financial transfers is
>> currently not among the solutions the = Internet Society can offer"
>> doesn't seem to the point. = Is there anything in the ISOC charter
>> that makes this = impossible? If so, please point to it and people
>> can bring = it to the board.
>>
>> "Can" is the word you = used. I'm guessing this actually is an
>> administrative = decision made by the senior staff, who can, if
>> they choose, = simply reverse the decision. Staff are constantly
>> making = financial decisions an order of magnitude greater. If
>> = staff feel they can't do this without board approval, that's = easy
>> to obtain if it's important to ISOC. As many of us = know, most of
>> the board members are very accessible and = dedicated to solving
>> ISOC problems if = necessary.
>>
>> "Should" ISOC provide the = seed funding here, necessary to get the
>> chapter started on = the path to independence is the real question.
>> I'm sure = there's a lot more here than the presumably modest sum
>> to = share some office space. Likely, a shared or cheap office
>> = space that fits the legal requirements can be obtained for = less
>> than the cost of sending one more talking head to IGF = Bali.
>> Nothing wrong with IGF, but a slightly smaller ISOC = delegation
>> isn't a fatal wound.
>>
>> I = don't know enough to decide whether ISOC should do more here
>> = and I'm sure there are major issues that haven't been = discussed.
>>
>> So let's draw in Lynn, Walda or = whomever else actually has the
>> power to make things happen = and prevent a deep organizational
>> = problem.
>>
>> db
>>
>>
>> = On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ted Mooney <mooney at isoc.org>
>> = wrote:
>>>
>>> To all Chapter = Delegates
>>>
>>> ISOC Staff and, in particular, = Membership and Services, are
>>> saddened by the = recent decision and communication from the
>>> Cambodian = Chapter regarding their desire to dissociate from the
>>> = Internet Society for administrative and other support = concerns.
>>> I believe, however, there has been an = unfortunate
>>> miscommunication. The Chapter = Development and APAC staff have
>>> reached out to the = Cambodian Chapter on numerous occasions. As
>>> many = of you know, our Chapter Development team has worked = with
>>> other chapters to help address issues nearly = identical to what
>>> the Cambodian Chapter is experiencing. = Our offer of
>>> collaboration = remains.
>>>
>>> The issue of the lack of direct = financial transfers is
>>> currently not among the solutions = the Internet Society can
>>> offer. There are, = nevertheless many other avenues to address
>>> the = administrative support of the Chapter, which are both = local
>>> and long term. Indeed Staff are working with = Chapter
>>> volunteers and have convened a new Chapter = Administrative
>>> Support Working Group to address this = issue broadly. We hope
>>> the Cambodian Chapter will = reassess their position and
>>> re-engage with ISOC staff as = soon as possible. Our Chapter
>>> Development staff will = reach out once again to the Cambodian
>>> Chapter = officers.
>>>
>>> Best = regards,
>>>
>>> Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, = Membership & Services The
>>> Internet Society 1775 = Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA
>>> Office: +1 703-439-2774 = Cell: +1 = 301-980-6446 eMail:
>>> mooney at isoc.org
>>>
>>> = _______________________________________________ As an = Internet
>>> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically = subscribed to
>>> this list, which is regularly synchronized = with the Internet
>>> Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org
>>
>>
= >>
>>
>> -- Editor, Fast Net News, Net Policy = News and A Wireless Cloud
>> Author with Jennie Bourne = DSL (Wiley, 2002) and Web Video:
>> Making It Great, = Getting It Noticed (Peachpit, 2008)
>>
>> = _______________________________________________ As an = Internet
>> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically = subscribed to this
>> list, which is regularly synchronized = with the Internet Society
>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org
> = _______________________________________________ As an Internet
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There are quite rightfully, many different ideas how to proc= eed and as we all know, no single framework will be effective in all cases.= The first full meeting of the Chapter Administrative Support Working Group = (there have been conversations and emails pulling the group together and ag= reeing an agenda) will take place next week and there will be a report out = to the chapter delegates regarding the outcome and next steps. Grigori asked that someone address why direct financial support was not imm= ediately forthcoming. The reason is that at this point, there isn't a suffi= cient amount of money to assure fairness or even success, no fully develope= d plan to assure buy-in or understand the impact, no measurement or funds-a= ccounting mechanisms. However, I fully expect progress on all these fronts = by the end of the year and beyond. Let me also point out that a number of chapters have resolved these issues = on their own from which many lessons can be learned. The autonomy of ISOC C= hapters is a critical part of your overall effectiveness and ability to dri= ve our mission locally. It comes with a high degree of self-determination a= nd a degree of self-sufficiency which many of you have not only embraced, b= ut insisted upon. I ask you to please put aside past resentments regarding = the perception of ISOC as a "rich" organization when support of our global = mission on so many fronts requires investment many times our capability. Se= nior leadership of the Internet Society supports constant vigilance and adj= ustment of our funding priorities to assure our communities are armed as be= st they can be to support the ISOC Global mission. These processes are neit= her quick nor simple. But your voices are heard and are having an impact, h= owever glacial the speed of their implementation. In this light, I call upo= n the Cambodian Chapter once again, to reconsider it's decision to leave th= e Internet Society and work on a plan for the short and long term viability= of our mission there. With great regards, Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, Membership & Services The Internet Society 1775 Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA Office: +1 703-439-2774 Cell: +1 301-980-6446 eMail: mooney at isoc.org From: Shreedeep Rayamajhi < weaker41 at gmail.com > Date: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:26 AM To: Eduardo Diaz < eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com > Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent Correspondence from the Cambodian C= hapter I meant to say the communication can differ from people and channel so it h= as be standardized and centralized accordingly, the confusion in between th= e can create problems Cheers to Life Shreedeep Rayamajhi 00977-9841374547(Nepal) 00977-9851049683(Nepal) 00977-9813900099 +1(301)485-9395 (US) DISCLAIMER: This message is intended only for the recipient. If you are not= the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distribu= ting or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information i= s strictly prohibited. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Eduardo Diaz < eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com= > wrote: Shreedeep: Can you be so kind in explaining the meaning of the last sentence in your m= essage? I can interpret it in many different ways. Thanks -ed President ISOC-Puerto Rico On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Shreedeep Rayamajhi < weaker41 at gmail.com >= wrote: Dear all We all are proud to be part of the Internet society and to some extent it i= s our pride and prestige to say we are located through out the world. As sa= id big powers come with bigger Responsibilities just like that we need to a= ddress the issue of Cambodian chapter by every possible means.It counts for= every member that stand for change and with such situation ISOC can certai= nly help the chapter. Its not just about the rules and principle but on pra= ctical ground if there is a possibility from the ISOC headquarters then the= y should help because it makes a difference. ISOC and its role model of economic independence can be understood and the = pros and cons of funding a chapter is the part of the ISOC board or whom it= may be concern but in reality if there is a possibility for the Cambodian = chapter to help then ISOC should by all means. I think the communication in between the chapters +chapter leaders+ISOC bro= ad needs to be neutralized in every possible way. Cheers to Life Shreedeep Rayamajhi 00977-9841374547(Nepal) 00977-9851049683(Nepal) 00977-9813900099 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shreedeep_Rayamajhi_(activist) +1(301)485-9395 (US) Erreur ! Nom du fichier non sp=C3=A9cifi=C3=A9. DISCLAIMER: This message is intended only for the recipient. If you are not= the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distribu= ting or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information i= s strictly prohibited. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Eduard Tric < eduard.tric at isoc.ro > wrote:= A few years ago , i had the opportunity to participate in a task force call= ed "Isoc chapter of the future". One of the conclusions was that there has to be a balance between what HQ o= ffer to the capters (direct financial support was barley mentioned , among = other forms of support ) and what chapters should provide to HQ (some form = of activity , or growth). If direct financial support is not an option, the "why" part should be expl= ained in detail. In that case , indirect support should be enhanced (raise community grants = budget and leadership training for chapter key persons ) Regards, Ed ----- Mesaj original ----- De la: "Grigori Saghyan" < gregor at arminco.com > C=C4=83tre: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org Trimis: joi, 26 septembrie, 2013 3:07:04 Subiect: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Recent Correspondence from the Cambodian C= hapter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear All, from the formal point "chapter" is a part of one large structure. I think it is to have clearly defined relations between "Chapters" (or local ISOC structures) and whom? I use "ISOC Global" term, but may be "Management" or "HQ or "Board" is better? For each of proposed terms there is some uncertainty. After Cambodian declaration it looks, that there only one real way to draw attention to Chapter problems. Btw, why it is such strong negative reaction for direct financial support? And as we see, there is an expression " The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can offer". Here we see the author: it is the "Internet Society". Not the Board, not the staff, not the management, not ISOC Global, but the "Internet Society" Logically, I can understand, that as a Chapter, our Chapter was involved in some kind of discussion on that point, there was a voting procedure, and such decision was approved by majority? But we do not participated in such procedure. On the the other hand, if the Chapter is real "chapter" - a part of a large structure the "Internet Society" - it is not necessary to ask Chapter's opinion. Clear definition of terms is one of the strongest requirements everywhere, I think it is one of the most important points today for ISOC community (also undefined term). Grigori Saghyan ISOC.AM On 26.09.2013 0:19, Elver Loho wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't kept up with this email list, but from what I can gather > the Cambodian Chapter wants to disassociate from ISOC due to lack > of direct financial support for the basic running and operation of > the Chapter. > > I do not speak for my Chapter here, but personally I > wholeheartedly support this gesture. If this happens, then maybe, > just maybe, ISOC senior staff will start taking the issue of > providing support for Chapters around the world seriously. > > Right now Chapters seem to exist more as a way for ISOC HQ to show > that they have support and members around the world. We're all > providing a sort of legitimacy for the people at the HQ. Do we get > something back for this? Sort of. I mean, maybe. To some degree. > Though here in Estonia very few people have heard of the Internet > Society while our own local language brand carries a lot of > weight. Your situation may be different. > > Meanwhile we're battling with basic organizational issues, because > we can't even afford to keep up basic maintenance. At times we're > even unable to reply to government's requests for comments on > pending legislation, because we all have regular jobs or businesses > to run. This has to end. If what it takes is for one or more > Chapters to secede from the union, then so be it. If the Cambodian > Chapter goes through with this, I'm willing to put the question of > secession up for debate in our own Chapter. > > I urge other Chapter leaders to consider the same. > > Best, Elver .ee > > elver.loho at gmail.com +372 5661 6933 skype: elver.loho > > > On 25 September 2013 22:56, Dave Burstein < daveb at dslprime.com > > wrote: >> Cambodian colleagues >> >> I'm a board member in New York and respect your decision but urge >> you to keep working to resolve this. The board of ISOC is >> strongly committed to working with chapters and directed staff to >> improve things. If that's broken down here, as it seems, several >> board members are surely willing to help. They are dedicated, >> committed people who make a point fo responding to ISOC chapter >> members. I or a dozen others on this list can connect you if >> that makes things easier. >> >> They are all strong and independent thinkers, most with a no >> b______ attitude. >> >> >> Ted >> >> Thanks for addressing this; leaving it without response would >> have been painful. This is a crisis for the goverance model of >> ISOC that needs to be resolved at the highest level. As you saw >> from this list, a dozen other chapters think this crucial to >> solve. >> >> But "The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is >> currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can offer" >> doesn't seem to the point. Is there anything in the ISOC charter >> that makes this impossible? If so, please point to it and people >> can bring it to the board. >> >> "Can" is the word you used. I'm guessing this actually is an >> administrative decision made by the senior staff, who can, if >> they choose, simply reverse the decision. Staff are constantly >> making financial decisions an order of magnitude greater. If >> staff feel they can't do this without board approval, that's easy >> to obtain if it's important to ISOC. As many of us know, most of >> the board members are very accessible and dedicated to solving >> ISOC problems if necessary. >> >> "Should" ISOC provide the seed funding here, necessary to get the >> chapter started on the path to independence is the real question. >> I'm sure there's a lot more here than the presumably modest sum >> to share some office space. Likely, a shared or cheap office >> space that fits the legal requirements can be obtained for less >> than the cost of sending one more talking head to IGF Bali. >> Nothing wrong with IGF, but a slightly smaller ISOC delegation >> isn't a fatal wound. >> >> I don't know enough to decide whether ISOC should do more here >> and I'm sure there are major issues that haven't been discussed. >> >> So let's draw in Lynn, Walda or whomever else actually has the >> power to make things happen and prevent a deep organizational >> problem. >> >> db >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Ted Mooney < mooney at isoc.org > >> wrote: >>> >>> To all Chapter Delegates >>> >>> ISOC Staff and, in particular, Membership and Services, are >>> saddened by the recent decision and communication from the >>> Cambodian Chapter regarding their desire to dissociate from the >>> Internet Society for administrative and other support concerns. >>> I believe, however, there has been an unfortunate >>> miscommunication. The Chapter Development and APAC staff have >>> reached out to the Cambodian Chapter on numerous occasions. As >>> many of you know, our Chapter Development team has worked with >>> other chapters to help address issues nearly identical to what >>> the Cambodian Chapter is experiencing. Our offer of >>> collaboration remains. >>> >>> The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is >>> currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can >>> offer. There are, nevertheless many other avenues to address >>> the administrative support of the Chapter, which are both local >>> and long term. Indeed Staff are working with Chapter >>> volunteers and have convened a new Chapter Administrative >>> Support Working Group to address this issue broadly. We hope >>> the Cambodian Chapter will reassess their position and >>> re-engage with ISOC staff as soon as possible. Our Chapter >>> Development staff will reach out once again to the Cambodian >>> Chapter officers. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, Membership & Services The >>> Internet Society 1775 Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA >>> Office: +1 703-439-2774 Cell: +1 301-980-6446 eMail: >>> mooney at isoc.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ As an Internet >>> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to >>> this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet >>> Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >> >> >> >> >> -- Editor, Fast Net News, Net Policy News and A Wireless Cloud >> Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley, 2002) and Web Video: >> Making It Great, Getting It Noticed (Peachpit, 2008) >> >> _______________________________________________ As an Internet >> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this >> list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > _______________________________________________ As an Internet > Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this > list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > - -- Grigori Saghyan PGP Key ID: 0x48E4D5DC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSQ3qmAAoJEBp2GIFI5NXc9KsH/jbGq7gEmXS3N3l+SYnV2hv1 4VwS/E5FlSvQ0jojUyAh6gKcIkkteOf8z5xT0OQa1aPMiR7aja2UuuCFRIYz9Gbn j7ieA2Er/ukskpERf/a+SP/SW178MdMrCSYhyyeOq5cAlDcMW6v6GGMk05dWl4+2 aIWz4bY5MZYH6KqjFzr7f/XqYRes31XxgnZ4tJuU9GvLMmNZhnAgOkMYrtLQ551c EBatqhKam5yEBwy4H2x0rHQ2i6RvC2y1GYF1NMKeFMECKJnoAgDVzqqlQAifWAC1 SCgAbDwXvPClbUvy0ofIhjawkXls5+lxRghu7S1qCMEAYrUpbAVcnw9TpiiaeHg=3D =3DLo39 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org -- -- _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org -- NOTICE: This email may contain information which is confidential and/or sub= ject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named addressee= only. 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Best regards Christopher On 14 Oct 2013, at 15:12, John More >= wrote: Dear Chapter Leaders As Chapter representatives on the Bylaws Revision Committee that worked to = provide for a Chapter Advisory Committee, we would like to issue a formal c= all to create a Task Force to draft a proposal for a CAC to present to the = Board of Trustees for approval. The revised Bylaws require that there be a= petition from the Chapters to institute the CAC, as was the case with the = Organizational Advisory Council. The purposes of the CAC, among others, would be to represent the interests = of the Chapters and to provide an institutional structure for the future gr= owth of the role of the Chapters in the life of the Internet Society. The = Council would also be the body of peers to which issues concerning Chapters= could be directed. The Task Force will need to be small enough to work well, but broad enough = and operated in a transparent fashion to ensure that a workable, effective,= democratic, and representative Council will be the end result of our effor= ts. Our belief is that the Task Force must be Chapter-leader driven, but at the= same time we will need to work with staff to insure that funding and other= necessary support will be forthcoming. Joyce Dogniez has volunteered to co= ordinate with the Task Force in providing logistics. Ted Mooney and other m= embers of staff dedicated to Chapter support have indicated they welcome th= e creation of the Council. Our call is for volunteers willing to work as part of the Task Force and ar= e able and ready to spend enough of their time and energy over the next fou= r to five months to create a solid proposal for a Chapter Advisory Council.= Our goal should be to have the proposal ready for consideration at the Bo= ard Meeting in April 2014. Sincerely, Hans Peter Dittler John H. More Member of the Board Treasurer ISOC.DC ISOC-DC Internet Society German Chapter e.V. The Greater Washington DC Chapter of the Internet Society, Inc. _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org --_000_6DCAB3E586E6A34FB17223DF8D8F0D3DC017AA32W8EXMBDPunamloc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Christopher,

I will volunteer to work in the Task Force convened by John More and H= ans-Peter Dittler.

We can discuss the degree and timing of time involvement in the Task F= orce itself.

I don't see a need for two steering groups. We have previously deposit= ed chapters' trust on John and Hans-Peter for the bylaws revision. We shoul= d make intensive use of their fresh experience in that work.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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Enviado el: lunes, 14 de octubre de 2013 08:50
Hasta: John More; Hans Peter Dittler
CC: Chapter Delegates
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Creation of a Chapter Advisory Commi= ttee Drafting Task Force

Dear John, Dear Hans Peter:

Well, we are obviously not going to have two CAC steering group= s.

However, this time around, it must be really be a bottom-up process.
It is perhaps too early to engage the staff except as observers.

Also, I would rather wait for responses from Asia and Africa.

From Latin America, only Alejandro has responded.

The Board Committee on the Bylaws has had their say, with the results = that we have got.

I would have preferred that you both volunteer to work with the Steeri= ng Group. You are invited.

Best regards

Christopher

On 14 Oct 2013, at 15:12, John More <morej1 at mac.com> wrote:

Dear Chapter Lea= ders

As Chapter repre= sentatives on the Bylaws Revision Committee that worked to provide for a Ch= apter Advisory Committee, we would like to issue a formal call to create a = Task Force to draft a proposal for a CAC to present to the Board of Trustees for approval. The revised Bylaws require that = there be a petition from the Chapters to institute the CAC, as was the case= with the Organizational Advisory Council.

The purposes of = the CAC, among others, would be to represent the interests of the Chapters = and to provide an institutional structure for the future growth of the role= of the Chapters in the life of the Internet Society. = The Council would also be the body of p= eers to which issues concerning Chapters could be directed.

The Task Force w= ill need to be small enough to work well, but broad enough and operated in = a transparent fashion to ensure that a workable, effective, democratic, and= representative Council will be the end result of our efforts.

Our belief is th= at the Task Force must be Chapter-leader driven, but at the same time we wi= ll need to work with staff to insure that funding and other necessary suppo= rt will be forthcoming. Joyce Dogniez has volunteered to coordinate with the Task Force in providing logistics. = Ted Mooney and other members of staff dedicated to Chapter support have ind= icated they welcome the creation of the Council.

Our call is for = volunteers willing to work as part of the Task Force and are able and ready= to spend enough of their time and energy over the next four to five months= to create a solid proposal for a Chapter Advisory Council. Our goal should be to have the proposal ready for = consideration at the Board Meeting in April 2014.

Sincerely,

Hans Peter Dittler John H. More

Member of the Board Treasurer

ISOC.DC ISOC-DC

Internet Society German Chapter e.V. The Greater Washington DC Chapter of

the In= ternet Society, Inc.

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When we speak about bottom-up >model, multi- stakholder approach in the Internet Governance, we have >to demonstrate, that these principles are present in ISOC community. >These new ideas are actual after 2005. ISOC was created earlier, and >may be it is right time to think how to implement these new >approaches, because this approaches are supported by ISOC. >Grigori Saghyan >ISOC.AM > > > >On 06.11.2013 18:00, Ted Mooney wrote: >> This is the only response I will make to this list on what has been >> the first personal attack on my character and good faith in my >> professional career. >>=20 >> For the record, Alan and I spent a good part of a day in person >> discussing the ISOC Members in Guateng who were trying to put an >> event together and looked to Alan for support. For whatever reason >> that support never materialized according to these members and they >> expressed their desire to form their own chapter. Before I would >> encourage them I spoke to Alan and asked him directly if he would >> support a separate chapter since the nurturing and training of the >> Gauteng members was, in his words, too much work to train and >> supervise them" for him or presumably the ZA chapter. Alan assured >> me he was fine with that so long as ISOC ZA maintained leadership >> within South Africa. I agreed and only then did I give the >> go-ahead for the application process for a Gauteng Chapter. The >> next time I communicated this to Alan he told me I was out of my >> mind, that he never said such a thing and that I was out to subvert >> the ZA chapter. I was astonished and offered twice to connect >> directly by voice to overcome this communication breakdown. He >> refused and went silent to me. >>=20 >> With respect to observing the netiquette, I admit to mistakes >> within my department and others, which I have now corrected >> internally, including having established rules of email protocol >> for our lists and for our membership communications. I thanked >> Alan for this and for guiding me. >>=20 >> Regarding Alan's second point, the project he sent me to in >> Johannesburg, I was highly thankful and encouraged by what I saw >> and again thanked him. I'm unclear how my 'dishonesty' manifested >> in this case. >>=20 >> People of good faith and interest can often have differing views, >> miscommunications and a falling out. It is how they react >> afterward that is the measure of character and leadership. >>=20 >> To Alan, I reiterate my prior offers to speak directly in order to >> 1) try to resolve our miscommunication and 2)find a way to assist >> ISOC ZA in a fashion consistent with your independence and needs. I >> do not wage war on chapters. I am a voice and manager within ISOC >> for the greater support of Chapters. >>=20 >> Lastly, personal attacks on this list are inconsistent with the >> spirit and purpose of the Chapter Delegates list, and with the very >> netiquette I'm accused of ignoring. Regardless whether it is staff >> or a chapter member, this list is meant for civil, professional >> discourse. Everyone will benefit from this. >>=20 >> With special regards, >>=20 >> Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, Membership & Services The Internet >> Society 1775 Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA Office: +1 >> 703-439-2774 Cell: +1 301-980-6446 eMail: mooney at isoc.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 11/6/13 6:37 AM, "Alan Levin" wrote: >>=20 >>> Dear Veni, >>>=20 >>> On 05 Nov 2013, at 8:49 PM, Veni Markovski >>> wrote: >>>> You are right. The staffers are good people. I'd say - >>>> amazingly good people. >>>=20 >>> I am so sorry as in the past I would always have agreed with >>> this comment. Sadly, after spending more than a calendar day in >>> various discussions with Ted Mooney in Durban a few months ago, I >>> found him to have been dishonest with me. I would not state this >>> in such a public forum unless I was entirely convinced on three >>> bases, 1. regarding ISOC Gauteng, 2. regarding a visit to ISOC >>> projects in Gauteng that I sent him to, and 3. regarding a >>> commitment to observing netiquette. >>>=20 >>> I have told Ted that cannot trust him and that I believe he is >>> waging a war against ISOC-ZA yet he persists. Sadly he is in >>> charge of ISOCs position on all of us :( >>>=20 >>> On the other hand I've had a few discussion with the Trustees and >>> I believe that they are fully aware of the issues and are fully >>> supportive of the Chapters needs. I expect that with the new CEO >>> we will see dissolution of the 'bureaus' and additional global >>> policy analysts that will be available to assist us with policy >>> issues at national or regional levels. >>>=20 >>> Sincerely >>>=20 >>> Alan >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ As an Internet >>> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this >>> list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ As an Internet >> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this >> list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org >>=20 > > >- --=20 >Grigori Saghyan >PGP Key ID: 0x48E4D5DC >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (MingW32) >Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > >iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSe3U8AAoJEBp2GIFI5NXcrE4H/2RnhyjN9maTDQU2G5MO8m3L >getBJpw9zcSfGIEqD1JqCw1Nbt3bhxzOJw5UpQnwfyNJarMUrMF+6r2cvfFLC81s >Tw2NZGRGS0ZQhH0voGLzisa9WM2EEAKPOrpfov3rVoiUY8MScJBqOwPKeCNQjVUV >TZuwOKBPbzdxFoDVXGBwSwA5SWkZvuA9Zy+Q85o/SftDrFF7WPPJYgnjExNev7d3 >PRfWD+SS62zMcrF7dFy+XuDowBAmsAcTeXkBL8iLCNBsPvZ4ZZMxCjy2llcrGG4T >/vk1E82xs1CQqUpiIR/a8A9uRlEAyk90lnqX1MOlUXsTigmqym1MLh2xlV82tjI=3D >=3DlhED >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >_______________________________________________ >As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: r> not be the most pressing issue for a majority of chapters and I will not presume to know or state what is most important until the Chapter Advisory<= br> group convenes and undertakes its important work. There are some very
critically important Internet taking place outside of ISOC that require
our attention and action.

Ted

On 11/7/13 6:10 AM, "Grigori Saghyan" <gregor at arminco.com> wrote:

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>Dear Ted,
>I do not think, that any personal attack will help to =A0resolve any >problem. But if there is a problem, necessary to indicate
>- - to whom in is possible to apply. When we speak about bottom-up
>model, multi- stakholder approach in the Internet Governance, we have >to demonstrate, that these principles are present in ISOC community. >These new ideas are actual after =A02005. ISOC was created earlier, and=
>may be it is right time to think how to =A0implement these new
>approaches, because this approaches are supported by ISOC.
>Grigori Saghyan
>ISOC.AM
>
>
>
>On 06.11.2013 18:00, Ted Mooney wrote:
>> This is the only response I will make to this list on what has bee= n
>> the first personal attack on my character and good faith in my
>> professional career.
>>
>> For the record, Alan and I spent a good part of a day in person >> discussing the ISOC Members in Guateng who were trying to put an >> event together and looked to Alan for support. =A0For whatever rea= son
>> that support never materialized according to these members and the= y
>> expressed their desire to form their own chapter. =A0Before I woul= d
>> encourage them I spoke to Alan and asked him directly if he would<= br> >> support a separate chapter since the nurturing and training of the=
>> Gauteng members was, in his words, too much work to train and
>> supervise them" for him or presumably the ZA chapter. Alan as= sured
>> me he was fine with that so long as ISOC ZA maintained leadership<= br> >> within South Africa. =A0I agreed and only then did I give the
>> go-ahead for the application process for a Gauteng Chapter. =A0The=
>> next time I communicated this to Alan he told me I was out of my >> mind, that he never said such a thing and that I was out to subver= t
>> the ZA chapter. =A0I was astonished and offered twice to connect >> directly by voice to overcome this communication breakdown. =A0He<= br> >> refused and went silent to me.
>>
>> With respect to observing the netiquette, I admit to mistakes
>> within my department and others, which I have now corrected
>> internally, including having established rules of email protocol >> for our lists and for our membership communications. =A0I thanked<= br> >> Alan for this and for guiding me.
>>
>> Regarding Alan's second point, the project he sent me to in >> Johannesburg, I was highly thankful and encouraged by what I saw >> and again thanked him. I'm unclear how my 'dishonesty'= manifested
>> in this case.
>>
>> People of good faith and interest can often have differing views,<= br> >> miscommunications and a falling out. =A0It is how they react
>> afterward that is the measure of character and leadership.
>>
>> To Alan, I reiterate my prior offers to speak directly in order to=
>> 1) try to resolve our miscommunication and 2)find a way to assist<= br> >> ISOC ZA in a fashion consistent with your independence and needs. = I
>> do not wage war on chapters. =A0I am a voice and manager within IS= OC
>> for the greater support of Chapters.
>>
>> Lastly, personal attacks on this list are inconsistent with the >> spirit and purpose of the Chapter Delegates list, and with the ver= y
>> netiquette I'm accused of ignoring. Regardless whether it is s= taff
>> or a chapter member, this list is meant for civil, professional >> discourse. Everyone will benefit from this.
>>
>> With special regards,
>>
>> Ted Ted Mooney Senior Director, Membership & Services The Inte= rnet
>> Society 1775 Wiehle Avenue Reston, VA 20190 USA Office: +1
>> 703-439-2774 Cell: +1 301-= 980-6446 eMail: mooney at isoc.org<= br> >>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/13 6:37 AM, "Alan Levin" <alan at isoc.org.za> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Veni,
>>>
>>> On 05 Nov 2013, at 8:49 PM, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> You are right. The staffers are good people. I'd say -=
>>>> amazingly good people.
>>>
>>> I am so sorry as in the past I would always have agreed with >>> this comment. Sadly, after spending more than a calendar day i= n
>>> various discussions with Ted Mooney in Durban a few months ago= , I
>>> found him to have been dishonest with me. I would not state th= is
>>> in such a public forum unless I was entirely convinced on thre= e
>>> bases, 1. regarding ISOC Gauteng, 2. regarding a visit to ISOC=
>>> projects in Gauteng that I sent him to, and 3. regarding a
>>> commitment to observing netiquette.
>>>
>>> I have told Ted that cannot trust him and that I believe he is=
>>> waging a war against ISOC-ZA yet he persists. Sadly he is in >>> charge of ISOCs position on all of us :(
>>>
>>> On the other hand I've had a few discussion with the Trust= ees and
>>> I believe that they are fully aware of the issues and are full= y
>>> supportive of the Chapters needs. I expect that with the new C= EO
>>> we will see dissolution of the 'bureaus' and additiona= l global
>>> policy analysts that will be available to assist us with polic= y
>>> issues at national or regional levels.
>>>
>>> Sincerely
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________ As an Internet=
>>> Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to th= is
>>> list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Societ= y
>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________ As an Internet
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--047d7b67030f389b2104ea98fedb-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I have used S2 member in the past and found it to be overly complicated, bloated and cumbersome. I have also done similar things with WooCommerce, groups and members and subscriptions plug ins. However, right now I am in the process of creating a complicated site that has content that is only available to pre-authorized users and I am using Restricted Content Pro with the Stripe and Paypal extensions and it is by far the most intuitive and easiest to use membership plug in that I've worked with. I haven't had a chance to test it in real life yet, as the site is still being developed but the testing I've done has me fairly convinced that it is going to be my go-to for membership and restricted content on WP sites in the future. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: > Hello all, > > Last week, the board of the newly-incorporated ISOC Canada Chapter last > approved a membership dues schedule for individual and corporate members, > > The need to track these members, take payment via Paypal, do automated > renewal notices (and if requested, automatic renewal), and save other > relevant demographic information is beyond the current capabilities of the > ISOC membership portal. > > Has anyone here evaluated any WordPress plugins that might accomplish the > same task? There are a number of such plugins available; > while most are aimed at making certain parts of a website subscriber-only, > they generally seem adaptable to our needs. > > Has anyone here done this evaluation before? Is anyone else using a > WordPress plugin to manage membership beyond the capabilities offered in > the ISOC portal? > > Any suggestions are welcomed. > > -- > Evan Leibovitch > President > ISOC Canada Chapter > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > -- David Vyorst Co-Founder, Relay Station Digital Strategies www.relaystationmedia.com 202.841.2400 --089e0149c506305c5d04edb90b75 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From our developer:

I have used S2 member i= n the past and found it to be overly complicated, bloated and cumbersome.= =C2=A0 I have also done similar things with WooCommerce, groups and members= and subscriptions plug ins.=C2=A0 However, right now I am in the process o= f creating a complicated site that has content that is only available to pr= e-authorized users and I am using Restricted Content Pro with the Stripe an= d Paypal extensions and it is by far the most intuitive and easiest to use = membership plug in that I've worked with.=C2=A0 I haven't had a cha= nce to test it in real life yet, as the site is still being developed but t= he testing I've done has me fairly convinced that it is going to be my = go-to for membership and restricted content on WP sites in the future.=C2= =A0=C2=A0

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at te= lly.org> wrote:

Hello all,

Last week, the board of the newly-incorporated ISOC Canada Chapter last = approved a membership dues schedule for individual and corporate members,

The need to track these members, take payment via Paypa= l, do automated renewal notices (and if requested, automatic renewal), and = save other relevant demographic information is beyond the current capabilit= ies of the ISOC membership portal.

Has anyone here evaluated any WordPress plugins that mi= ght accomplish the same task? There are a number of such plugins availabl= e; while most are aimed at making certain parts of a website subscriber= -only, they generally seem adaptable to our needs.

Has anyone here done this evaluation before? Is anyone = else using a WordPress plugin to manage membership beyond the capabilities = offered in the ISOC portal?

Any suggestions are we= lcomed.

--
Evan Leibovitch
President
ISOC Canada Chapter

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--089e0149c506305c5d04edb90b75-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: It seems they mostly rely on chapter membership and local fundraising (done= by the volunteers), but maybe I'm not looking in the right place. So any pointers to information prior to talking to them would be very helpf= ul. Also if you have a contact with them could you put us in touch? Thanks a million Joyce -- Joyce Dogniez, CMM Director of Chapters Internet Society dogniez at isoc.org tel: +352 621 266 189 Skype: joycedogniez From: Michael Snell > Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 at 8:47 PM To: David Solomonoff > Cc: "chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org" > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Input request for Chapter Administrative S= upport Working Group David-- Any place to get a picture of what kind of support they provide that is ana= logous to ISOC Chapter Support? Thanks much, Mike On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:58 AM, David Solomonoff > wrote: Would prefer to quickly respond here for same reasons as Mark - I'm trying = to limit the number of accounts with different services that require me to = login just so I can have the privilege of posting a quick comment or opinio= n. That said ... the NY Chapter works closely with the local Wikimedia Chapter= . The Wikimedia foundation has less money than ISOC - but gets funding from= a large number of small donors - and does a far better job of Chapter supp= ort than ISOC. They provide far more funding as well as long- term mentorin= g of local activists. I suggest we arrange a meeting between ISOC Chapter support and Wikimedia t= o find out more. David On 12/09/2013 08:36 AM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote: Dear chapter delegates The Chapter Administrative Support Working Group requests your input to gat= her ideas of necessary administrative support activities required of chapte= r officers in the day to day chapter management. We are also looking for ideas on resources that you may need for specific c= hapter administrative activities, such as content, training, documentation,= operational tools, financial and other support for specific projects. Please go to http://isocchapteradminsupport.ideascale.com to submit a new idea, agree or disagree to = an existing idea! Ideas having the highest level of agreement or being the = easiest to implement shall be considered a priority. Kind regards Cintra Sooknanan _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org -- David Solomonoff, President Internet Society of New York president at isoc-ny.orgisoc-ny.org _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org --_000_CED520B147C51dogniezisocorg_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear David,

Thanks for the Wikimedia reference, it’s always interesting to s= hare best practices with other organisations, so I’d be happy to talk= to the Wikimedia people.

From the website I can’t see how the chapters get money from the= Foundation other than a grants application process or how else theory are = supported. It seems they mostly rely on chapter membership and local fundra= ising (done by the volunteers), but maybe I’m not looking in the right place.

So any pointers to information prior to talking to them would be very = helpful.

Also if you have a contact with them could you put us in touch?

Thanks a million

Joyce

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Joyce Dogniez, CMM=

Director of Chapte= rs

Internet Society

dogniez at isoc.org

tel: +352 621 = 266 189

Skype: joycedognie= z

From: Michael Snell <mjjsnell at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 at = 8:47 PM
To: David Solomonoff <president at isoc-ny.org>
Cc: "chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org" <= ;chapter-delegates at eli= sts.isoc.org>
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] In= put request for Chapter Administrative Support Working Group

David--

Any place to get a picture of what kind of support they provide that i= s analogous to ISOC Chapter Support?

Thanks much,

Mike

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:58 AM, David Solomono= ff <president at is= oc-ny.org> wrote:

Would prefer to quickly respond here for same reasons as Mark - I'm tr= ying to limit the number of accounts with different services that require m= e to login just so I can have the privilege of posting a quick comment or o= pinion.

That said ... the NY Chapter works closely with the local Wikimedia Chapter= . The Wikimedia foundation has less money than ISOC - but gets funding from= a large number of small donors - and does a far better job of Chapter supp= ort than ISOC. They provide far more funding as well as long- term mentoring of local activists.

I suggest we arrange a meeting between ISOC Chapter support and Wikimedia t= o find out more.

David

On 12/09/2013 08:36 AM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:

Dear chapter delegates

The Chapter Administrative Support Working Group requests your input t= o gather ideas of necessary administrative support activities required of c= hapter officers in the day to day chapter management.

We are also looking for ideas on resources that you may need for speci= fic chapter administrative activities, such as content, training, documenta= tion, operational tools, financial and other support for specific projects<= span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">.<= /div>

Please go to http://isocchapteradminsupport.ideascale.com to submit a new idea, agree or disagree to an existing idea! I= deas having the highest level of agreement or being the easiest to implemen= t shall be considered a priority.

Kind regards

Cintra Sooknanan

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--_000_CED520B147C51dogniezisocorg_-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: ipation in one meeting is not an end in itself but rather the beginning of = a relationship. We had excellent, if not enthusiastic feed-back from our in= vitees. We were also able to register a direct impact, as some of them had = leading positions in their respective delegations in important internationa= l meetings, such as WCIT. This is the only structure way for the IETF to interact with government rep= resentatives. We have found the dialogues to be useful for both sides, as i= t deepens the understanding for the technology among policy makers and conf= ronts the engineers with concerns governments may have. Government buy-in i= s important and we have found this loose programme to be best adapted to th= e IETF culture. We definitely would not recommend a GAC-type body for this = purpose. This would not work for the IETF and would be contrary to the way = the IETF functions. In any case, is up to the IETF (and not ISOC) to figur= e out how it wants to organize itself. Government recognition of IETF standards is important for the future of the= Internet. This recognition may be implicit, as in a reference in a governm= ent tender, or explicit, in a more formal legal text. As I said in my previ= ous email, this may vary from country to country and we are interested in l= earning from our Chapters how this issue is handled in their respective cou= ntries. Best regards Markus On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Elver Loho > wrote: Hi all, Regarding the upcoming IETF meeting in London, then will any Estonian policymakers be in attendance? What sort of outreach effort was made to get policymakers to attend? As for the issue of having national governments recognize IETF standards, then, frankly, I'm still not entirely sure as to what sort of recognition would qualify. - IETF standards are, of course, referenced in public procurement documents, but this is a pragmatic choice, not a top-down policy dictate. - A declaration by the cabinet or the parliament in recognition of IETF's standards would be an empty symbolic gesture and non-binding anyway. - Does IETF have some membership program for representatives of local governments? Sort of like GAC at ICANN? I am not too familiar with the structure and practices of the IETF, but that might be a way of getting buy-in from the governments. Best, Elver elver.loho at gmail.com +372 5661 6933 skype: elver.loho On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Markus Kummer > wrote: Dear Elver, Vint, all, Vint has explained the problem in a nutshell. Most governments adopt standards that derive either from their national standards bodies and/or official international standards organizations, such as ITU-T and ISO at th= e global level or, at the regional level, in Europe, CEN, CENELEC and ETSI. Often, these organizations are referenced in national legislation as well a= s in international treaties. How this is done, varies from country to country= . Some governments, for instance, recognize IETF standards by reference, by specifying RFCs in public procurement. IT We would be interested in hearing from our Chapters whether they have any indications as to how this is handled in their respective countries. Ultimately, it would be significant to have governments recognize IETF standards in their national legislations= . As you know, ISOC takes pride in providing the institutional home of the IETF and does its best to promote the IETF and its work. The sentence that caught your eyes refers to our outreach to governments we have been engaged in for the past two years. We invited policy makers to IETF meetings and will continue to do so. At the forthcoming IETF meeting in London we will have more than 30 policy makers from all regions, nearly a third of them from Europe. Best regards Markus From: Vint Cerf > Date: Tuesday25, February, 2014 10:56 AM To: Elver Loho > Cc: Chapter Delegates > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] The European offensive some governments only recognize standards from national or treaty-like organizations. They won't specify the use of other standards from private sector organizations. I think this was just an offer to make known the IETF work and the widespread voluntary adoption of its recommendations. v On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Elver Loho > wrote: Hi all, I stumbled upon this document in one of ISOC's newsletters: http://www.internetsociety.org/blog/europe-bureau-public-policy/2014/02/eur= opean-commissions-position-future-internet-governance In it there is this sentence: "The Internet Society stands ready to assist European authorities to familiarize themselves with the work of the IETF and calls on European governments to recognize IETF standards." What is meant by this? How would a government formally recognize technical standards? Because if something sensible was meant by this sentence, then it could be a task for the local EU chapters. Best, Elver .ee elver.loho at gmail.com +372 5661 6933 skype: elver.loho _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org --_000_F5EFE624CB2749199760932B238F5B78isocorg_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <696208A9493E22459513CDA72AA99C12 at namprd06.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

We started inviting government representatives to IETF meeting two yea= rs ago. To begin with, we focused on policy makers from developing countrie= s, either delegates we had identified in ITU meetings or people ident= ified by our Regional Bureau Directors. Apart from attending regular IETF meetings, they participate in special se= ssions we organise for them. We usually ask them in advance what they are i= nterested in and set up special sessions around these issues. As we noticed= that there was also great interest from policy makers from Europe and North America and we also invited peopl= e from these regions. The European Commission encouraged the member of thei= r High Level Group on Internet Governance to attend the IETF meeting and af= ter their last session in February several members from that group indicated their interest to participate. T= here is nobody from Estonia among them but you are more than welcome to rea= ch out to policy makers in your country and get them interested.

From a humble beginning two years ago, this programme has expanded and= next week we will have more than 30 policy makers attending the meeting. P= articipation in one meeting is not an end in itself but rather the beginnin= g of a relationship. We had excellent, if not enthusiastic feed-back from our invitees. We were also able to regi= ster a direct impact, as some of them had leading positions in their respec= tive delegations in important international meetings, such as WCIT.

This is the only structure way for the IETF to interact with governmen= t representatives. We have found the dialogues to be useful for both sides,= as it deepens the understanding for the technology among policy makers and= confronts the engineers with concerns governments may have. Government buy-in is important and we have found thi= s loose programme to be best adapted to the IETF culture. We definitely wou= ld not recommend a GAC-type body for this purpose. This would not= work for the IETF and would be contrary to the way the IETF functions. In any case, is up to the IETF (and= not ISOC) to figure out how it wants to organize itself.

Government recognition of IETF standards is important for the future o= f the Internet. This recognition may be implicit, as in a reference in a go= vernment tender, or explicit, in a more formal legal text. As I said in my = previous email, this may vary from country to country and we are interested in learning from our Chapters how= this issue is handled in their respective countries.

Best regards
Markus

On Feb 26, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Elver Loho <elver.loho at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Regarding the upcoming IETF meeting in London, then will any Estonian
policymakers be in attendance? What sort of outreach effort was made
to get policymakers to attend?

As for the issue of having national governments recognize IETF
standards, then, frankly, I'm still not entirely sure as to what sort
of recognition would qualify.

- IETF standards are, of course, referenced in public procurement
documents, but this is a pragmatic choice, not a top-down policy
dictate.
- A declaration by the cabinet or the parliament in recognition of
IETF's standards would be an empty symbolic gesture and non-binding
anyway.
- Does IETF have some membership program for representatives of local
governments? Sort of like GAC at ICANN? I am not too familiar with the
structure and practices of the IETF, but that might be a way of
getting buy-in from the governments.

Best,
Elver

elver.loho at gmail.com
+372 5661 6933
skype: elver.loho

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Markus Kummer <kummer at isoc.org> wrote:

Dear Elver, Vint, all,

Vint has explained the problem in a nutshell. Most governments adopt
standards that derive either from their national standards bodies and/or official international standards organizations, such as ITU-T and ISO at th= e
global level or, at the regional level, in Europe, CEN, CENELEC and ETSI. Often, these organizations are referenced in national legislation as well a= s
in international treaties. How this is done, varies from country to country= .
Some governments, for instance, recognize IETF standards by reference, by specifying RFCs in public procurement. IT We would be interested in hearing=
from our Chapters whether they have any indications as to how this is
handled in their respective countries. Ultimately, it would be significant<= br> to have governments recognize IETF standards in their national legislations= .

As you know, ISOC takes pride in providing the institutional home of the IETF and does its best to promote the IETF and its work. The sentence that<= br> caught your eyes refers to our outreach to governments we have been engaged=
in for the past two years. We invited policy makers to IETF meetings and will continue to do so. At the forthcoming IETF meeting in London we will have more than 30 policy makers from all regions, nearly a third of them from Europe.

Best regards

Markus

From: Vint Cerf <vint at google.com&= gt;
Date: Tuesday25, February, 2014 10:56 AM
To: Elver Loho <elver.loho at gmail= .com>
Cc: Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>

Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] The European offensive

some governments only recognize standards from national or treaty-like
organizations. They won't specify the use of other standards from private sector organizations. I think this was just an offer to make known the IETF=
work and the widespread voluntary adoption of its recommendations.

v

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Elver Loho <elver.loho at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I stumbled upon this document in one of ISOC's newsletters:

http://ww= w.internetsociety.org/blog/europe-bureau-public-policy/2014/02/european-com= missions-position-future-internet-governance

In it there is this sentence: "The Internet Society stands ready to assist European authorities to familiarize themselves with the work of
the IETF and calls on European governments to recognize IETF
standards."

What is meant by this? How would a government formally recognize
technical standards? Because if something sensible was meant by this
sentence, then it could be a task for the local EU chapters.

Best,
Elver
.ee

elver.loho at gmail.com
+372 5661 6933
skype: elver.loho
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From the office of Kathy Brown

Colleagues,

The Internet has = matured and evolved over the past 20 years from a "nascent technology&= quot; with imagined—but then unknown—potential to the world-wid= e platform for connection, collaboration, community and commerce that it is today. We face, as we are all aware, new challenges in= ensuring that the principles that got us here remain central to the contin= uing evolution of the Internet. We are committed, with the same passion we = have always shown, to meet these challenges head on.

To be successful = we must be focused, disciplined and organized in a way that leverages all o= f our expertise, talent and accumulated knowledge. We must be a cohesive te= am, ready to work together, enlist allies, tell our story and engage with everyone with a stake in an open, s= ecure, global network of networks.

We have committed= to achieving three priorities:

#1. Maintaining a= nd strengthening multi-stakeholder processes both

globally and loca= lly.

#2. Promoting rob= ustness and resiliency of Internet security and privacy
through technolog= y standards and deployment; and

#3. Advancing the= deployment of core Internet infrastructure and

evolution of tech= nology to ensure the sustainability and reliability of
the Internet.&nbs= p;

To better leverag= e our talent, expertise and budget assets to meet these objectives, we will= be streamlining our business case and realigning a number of our functions= and people.

Effective Monday,= March 17, 2014:

We will refocus o= ur organizational structure to ensure responsibility and accountability for= achieving our priorities by:

1. Establishing a= n office of Regional Engagement* at the executive level;

2. Realigning our= engagement, messaging and communications functions into one integrated off= ice;

3. Consolidating = the technical work of the organization into the Chief Internet Technical Of= fice;

4. Strengthening = our Global Policy Office;

5. Consolidating = our business, administrative and financial functions in the Finance Office;=

6. Positioning th= e economist as a shared asset;

These changes wil= l require each of us to demonstrate both the high professional commitment w= e have to the overall mission of ISOC as well as patience, openness to chan= ge and willingness to "exercise new muscles" to adapt to a more integrated approach to doing our work.&nb= sp;

Thank you.

Kathy

Kathy Brown

President and Chief Executi= ve Officer

The Internet Society

--_000_CF462CDB32509mooneyisocorg_-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: =20 Colleagues,=20 =20 The Internet has matured and evolved over the past 20 years from a = "nascent technology" with imagined=97but then unknown=97potential to the = world-wide platform for connection, collaboration, community and commerce that it = is today. We face, as we are all aware, new challenges in ensuring that the principles that got us here remain central to the continuing evolution = of the Internet. We are committed, with the same passion we have always = shown, to meet these challenges head on.=20 =20 To be successful we must be focused, disciplined and organized in a way = that leverages all of our expertise, talent and accumulated knowledge. We = must be a cohesive team, ready to work together, enlist allies, tell our story = and engage with everyone with a stake in an open, secure, global network of networks. =20 We have committed to achieving three priorities: =20 #1. Maintaining and strengthening multi-stakeholder processes both globally and locally.=20 =20 #2. Promoting robustness and resiliency of Internet security and privacy through technology standards and deployment; and =20 #3. Advancing the deployment of core Internet infrastructure and evolution of technology to ensure the sustainability and reliability of the Internet.=20 =20 To better leverage our talent, expertise and budget assets to meet these objectives, we will be streamlining our business case and realigning a number of our functions and people.=20 =20 Effective Monday, March 17, 2014: =20 We will refocus our organizational structure to ensure responsibility = and accountability for achieving our priorities by: =20 1. Establishing an office of Regional Engagement* at the executive = level;=20 =20 2. Realigning our engagement, messaging and communications functions = into one integrated office;=20 =20 3. Consolidating the technical work of the organization into the Chief Internet Technical Office;=20 =20 4. Strengthening our Global Policy Office;=20 =20 5. Consolidating our business, administrative and financial functions in = the Finance Office;=20 =20 6. Positioning the economist as a shared asset;=20 =20 These changes will require each of us to demonstrate both the high professional commitment we have to the overall mission of ISOC as well = as patience, openness to change and willingness to "exercise new muscles" = to adapt to a more integrated approach to doing our work.=20 =20 =20 Thank you. Kathy =20 Kathy Brown President and Chief Executive Officer The Internet Society ------=_NextPart_000_0B0C_01CF3E19.130E1BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kathy,

Thank you very much for your e mail. I support these ideas and = projects and here in Argentina we will do our best to go with you in = this new step of doing things better for internet as one of the best = human inventions of the history.

Hector

Argentine Chapter

H=E9ctor Ariel Manoff
Vitale, Manoff & Feilbogen
Viamonte 1145 10=BA Piso
C1053ABW Buenos Aires
Rep=FAblica Argentina
Te: (54-11) 4371-6100
Fax: (54-11) 4371-6365
E-mail: amanoff at vmf.com.ar
Web: http://www.vmf.com.ar

De: = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org = [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] En nombre de = Ted Mooney
Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 12 de marzo de 2014 = 16:25
Para: Scott Mansfield; 'izumi at nic.ad.jp'; Russ White; = ISOC Chapter Delegates
Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC = Realignment

From the office of Kathy Brown

Colleagues,

The Internet has matured and evolved over = the past 20 years from a "nascent technology" with = imagined—but then unknown—potential to the world-wide = platform for connection, collaboration, community and commerce that it = is today. We face, as we are all aware, new challenges in ensuring that = the principles that got us here remain central to the continuing = evolution of the Internet. We are committed, with the same passion we = have always shown, to meet these challenges head on.

To be successful we must be focused, = disciplined and organized in a way that leverages all of our expertise, = talent and accumulated knowledge. We must be a cohesive team, ready to = work together, enlist allies, tell our story and engage with everyone = with a stake in an open, secure, global network of networks.

We have committed to achieving three = priorities:

#1. = Maintaining and strengthening multi-stakeholder processes = both
globally = and locally.

#2. = Promoting robustness and resiliency of Internet security and = privacy
through = technology standards and deployment; and

#3. = Advancing the deployment of core Internet infrastructure and
evolution = of technology to ensure the sustainability and reliability = of
the = Internet.

To better leverage our talent, expertise = and budget assets to meet these objectives, we will be streamlining our = business case and realigning a number of our functions and = people.

Effective Monday, March 17, = 2014:

We will refocus our organizational = structure to ensure responsibility and accountability for achieving our = priorities by:

1. Establishing an office of Regional = Engagement* at the executive level;

2. Realigning our engagement, messaging = and communications functions into one integrated = office;

3. Consolidating the technical work of the = organization into the Chief Internet Technical Office;

4. Strengthening our Global Policy = Office;

5. Consolidating our business, = administrative and financial functions in the Finance = Office;

6. Positioning the economist as a shared = asset;

These changes will require each of us to = demonstrate both the high professional commitment we have to the overall = mission of ISOC as well as patience, openness to change and willingness = to "exercise new muscles" to adapt to a more integrated = approach to doing our work.

Thank you.
Kathy

Kathy Brown
President and = Chief Executive Officer
The Internet Society
------=_NextPart_000_0B0C_01CF3E19.130E1BF0-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Colleagues, The Internet has matured and evolved over the past 20 years from a "nascent technology" with imagined-but then unknown-potential to the world-wide platform for connection, collaboration, community and commerce that it is today. We face, as we are all aware, new challenges in ensuring that the principles that got us here remain central to the continuing evolution of the Internet. We are committed, with the same passion we have always shown, to meet these challenges head on. To be successful we must be focused, disciplined and organized in a way that leverages all of our expertise, talent and accumulated knowledge. We must be a cohesive team, ready to work together, enlist allies, tell our story and engage with everyone with a stake in an open, secure, global network of networks. We have committed to achieving three priorities: #1. Maintaining and strengthening multi-stakeholder processes both globally and locally. #2. Promoting robustness and resiliency of Internet security and privacy through technology standards and deployment; and #3. Advancing the deployment of core Internet infrastructure and evolution of technology to ensure the sustainability and reliability of the Internet. To better leverage our talent, expertise and budget assets to meet these objectives, we will be streamlining our business case and realigning a number of our functions and people. Effective Monday, March 17, 2014: We will refocus our organizational structure to ensure responsibility and accountability for achieving our priorities by: 1. Establishing an office of Regional Engagement* at the executive level; 2. Realigning our engagement, messaging and communications functions into one integrated office; 3. Consolidating the technical work of the organization into the Chief Internet Technical Office; 4. Strengthening our Global Policy Office; 5. Consolidating our business, administrative and financial functions in the Finance Office; 6. Positioning the economist as a shared asset; These changes will require each of us to demonstrate both the high professional commitment we have to the overall mission of ISOC as well as patience, openness to change and willingness to "exercise new muscles" to adapt to a more integrated approach to doing our work. Thank you. Kathy Kathy Brown President and Chief Executive Officer The Internet Society ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CF3EA4.A32D7E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you = Ted.

Dear Kathy,

I would like = to start by offering ISOC Lebanon and my personal support in this = challenging endeavor.

I am not = sure via what process ISOC reached to the three priorities but we concur = that they are focused and timely. Priority #2 clearly targets the = rebuilding of trust in the Internet security and privacy standards and = infrastructure and that is commendable. But on the other hand, Priority = #1 seems to offer little change from “business as usual” = while ISOC should be looking for creative solutions to overhaul the = multi-stakeholder processes and rebuild trust in the Internet governance = model.

There is a saying in Lebanon “Trust is like a = mirror, once its broken you can never look at it the same = again...” (or something like that)

The general = public, governments and businesses will not look at the Internet = multi-stakeholder governance the same again. I believe that = “Maintaining and strengthening multi-stakeholder processes both = globally and locally” is not good enough. The multi-stakeholder = relationship should be reengineered to an enhanced multi-stakeholder = model that is inclusive and representative in an equitable, transparent = and traceable manner (alas contractual).

Best = regards,
Nabil

-----
Nabil = Bukhalid
President
I= SOC Lebanon
P.O.Box 113-6596
Hamra, Lebanon

M= := +961 (0)3 779116
E: <= a href=3D"mailto:nabil.bukhalid at isoc.org.lb" target=3D"_blank">nabil.bukhalid at isoc.org.lb

W= . F= b . = T=

From:= = chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org = [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of = Ted Mooney
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:25 = PM
To: Scott Mansfield; 'izumi at nic.ad.jp'; Russ White; ISOC = Chapter Delegates
Subject: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC = Realignment

From the office of Kathy Brown

Colleagues,

The Internet has matured and evolved over = the past 20 years from a "nascent technology" with = imagined—but then unknown—potential to the world-wide = platform for connection, collaboration, community and commerce that it = is today. We face, as we are all aware, new challenges in ensuring that = the principles that got us here remain central to the continuing = evolution of the Internet. We are committed, with the same passion we = have always shown, to meet these challenges head on.

To be successful we must be focused, = disciplined and organized in a way that leverages all of our expertise, = talent and accumulated knowledge. We must be a cohesive team, ready to = work together, enlist allies, tell our story and engage with everyone = with a stake in an open, secure, global network of networks.

We have committed to achieving three = priorities:

#1. = Maintaining and strengthening multi-stakeholder processes = both
globally = and locally.

#2. = Promoting robustness and resiliency of Internet security and = privacy
through = technology standards and deployment; and

#3. = Advancing the deployment of core Internet infrastructure and
evolution = of technology to ensure the sustainability and reliability = of
the = Internet.

To better leverage our talent, expertise = and budget assets to meet these objectives, we will be streamlining our = business case and realigning a number of our functions and = people.

Effective Monday, March 17, = 2014:

We will refocus our organizational = structure to ensure responsibility and accountability for achieving our = priorities by:

1. Establishing an office of Regional = Engagement* at the executive level;

2. Realigning our engagement, messaging = and communications functions into one integrated = office;

3. Consolidating the technical work of the = organization into the Chief Internet Technical Office;

4. Strengthening our Global Policy = Office;

5. Consolidating our business, = administrative and financial functions in the Finance = Office;

6. Positioning the economist as a shared = asset;

These changes will require each of us to = demonstrate both the high professional commitment we have to the overall = mission of ISOC as well as patience, openness to change and willingness = to "exercise new muscles" to adapt to a more integrated = approach to doing our work.

Thank you.
Kathy

Kathy Brown
President and = Chief Executive Officer
The Internet Society
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CF3EA4.A32D7E20-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Colleagues, The Internet has matured and evolved over the past 20 years from a "nascent= technology" with imagined=97but then unknown=97potential to the world-wide= platform for connection, collaboration, community and commerce that it is = today. We face, as we are all aware, new challenges in ensuring that the pr= inciples that got us here remain central to the continuing evolution of the= Internet. We are committed, with the same passion we have always shown, to= meet these challenges head on. To be successful we must be focused, disciplined and organized in a way tha= t leverages all of our expertise, talent and accumulated knowledge. We must= be a cohesive team, ready to work together, enlist allies, tell our story = and engage with everyone with a stake in an open, secure, global network of= networks. We have committed to achieving three priorities: #1. Maintaining and strengthening multi-stakeholder processes both globally and locally. #2. Promoting robustness and resiliency of Internet security and privacy through technology standards and deployment; and #3. Advancing the deployment of core Internet infrastructure and evolution of technology to ensure the sustainability and reliability of the Internet. To better leverage our talent, expertise and budget assets to meet these ob= jectives, we will be streamlining our business case and realigning a number= of our functions and people. Effective Monday, March 17, 2014: We will refocus our organizational structure to ensure responsibility and a= ccountability for achieving our priorities by: 1. Establishing an office of Regional Engagement* at the executive level; 2. Realigning our engagement, messaging and communications functions into o= ne integrated office; 3. Consolidating the technical work of the organization into the Chief Inte= rnet Technical Office; 4. Strengthening our Global Policy Office; 5. Consolidating our business, administrative and financial functions in th= e Finance Office; 6. Positioning the economist as a shared asset; These changes will require each of us to demonstrate both the high professi= onal commitment we have to the overall mission of ISOC as well as patience,= openness to change and willingness to "exercise new muscles" to adapt to a= more integrated approach to doing our work. Thank you. Kathy Kathy Brown President and Chief Executive Officer The Internet Society _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org --_000_4272315CD3B245CEBE3FDF28329FCD03isocorg_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you, Nabil,

The priorities listed, of course, need to be operationalized. Your poi= nts are well taken and very timely. As we work through our very specific im= plementation, we will be mindful of your recommendation. I am copying Marku= s and Sally, who are leading the efforts.

Best Regards,

Kathy

On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:12 AM, "bukhalidn" <bukhalidn at gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Ted.

Dear Kathy,

I would like to start by offering ISOC Lebanon and m= y personal support in this challenging endeavor.

I am not sure via what process ISOC reached to the t= hree priorities but we concur that they are focused and timely. Prior= ity #2 clearly targets the rebuilding of trust in the Internet security and= privacy standards and infrastructure and that is commendable. But on the other hand, Priority #1 seems to offer lit= tle change from =93business as usual=94 while ISOC should be looking for cr= eative solutions to overhaul the multi-stakeholder processes and rebuild tr= ust in the Internet governance model.

There is a saying in Lebanon =93Trust is like a mirr= or, once its broken you can never look at it the same again...=94 (or= something like that)

The general public, governments and businesses will = not look at the Internet multi-stakeholder governance the same again. I bel= ieve that =93Maintaining and strengthening multi-stakeholder processes both= globally and locally=94 is not good enough. The multi-stakeholder relationship should be reengineered to an enhanced m= ulti-stakeholder model that is inclusive and representative in an equitable= , transparent and traceable manner (alas contractual).

Best regards,

Nabil

<= /p>
-----

Nabil Bukhalid<= /p>
President

ISOC Lebanon

P.O.Box 113-6596
Hamra, Lebanon

M: +961 (0)3 779116
E: nabil.bukhalid at isoc.org.lb

W . Fb . T

<= /p>
<= /p>

From: chapter-delega= tes-bounces at elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Ted Mooney
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:25 PM
To: Scott Mansfield; 'izumi at nic.a= d.jp'; Russ White; ISOC Chapter Delegates
Subject: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC Realignment

From the office of Kathy Br= own

Colleagues,

The Intern= et has matured and evolved over the past 20 years from a "nascent tech= nology" with imagined=97but then unknown=97potential to the world-wide platform for connection, collaboration, community and commerce that it is = today. We face, as we are all aware, new challenges in ensuring that the pr= inciples that got us here remain central to the continuing evolution of the= Internet. We are committed, with the same passion we have always shown, to meet these challenges head on.&n= bsp;

To be succ= essful we must be focused, disciplined and organized in a way that leverage= s all of our expertise, talent and accumulated knowledge. We must be a cohesive team, ready to work together, enlist allies, tell ou= r story and engage with everyone with a stake in an open, secure, global ne= twork of networks.

We have co= mmitted to achieving three priorities:

#1. Maintaining and strengthening multi-stakeholder processes both

globally and locally. <= /o:p>

#2. Promoting robustness and resiliency of Internet security and pri= vacy

through technology standards and deployment; and

#3. Advancing the deployment of core Internet infrastructure and

evolution of technology to ensure the sustainability and reliability= of

the Internet.

To better = leverage our talent, expertise and budget assets to meet these objectives, = we will be streamlining our business case and realigning a number of our functions and people.

Effective = Monday, March 17, 2014:

We will re= focus our organizational structure to ensure responsibility and accountabil= ity for achieving our priorities by:

1. Establi= shing an office of Regional Engagement* at the executive level;

2. Realign= ing our engagement, messaging and communications functions into one integra= ted office;

3. Consoli= dating the technical work of the organization into the Chief Internet Techn= ical Office;

4. Strengt= hening our Global Policy Office;

5. Consoli= dating our business, administrative and financial functions in the Finance = Office;

6. Positio= ning the economist as a shared asset;

These chan= ges will require each of us to demonstrate both the high professional commi= tment we have to the overall mission of ISOC as well as patience, openness to change and willingness to "exercise new muscles" to = adapt to a more integrated approach to doing our work.

Thank you.=

Kathy

Kathy Brown<= o:p>

President and Chief Executive Officer

The Internet Society=

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--_000_4272315CD3B245CEBE3FDF28329FCD03isocorg_-- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 2 03:57:03 2024 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:57:03 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: But then I don't have the background of Alejandro to see why he feels there has been a complete breakdown. Nor, to my knowledge, has the Chapter leadership more broadly been involved in discussing improvements or problems over the years. Example of an area a Chapter Advisory Council could assist with. John John More Washington DC Chapter Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Christian de Larrinaga wrote: > > ISOC isn't holding an actual meeting but conducting the entire caboodle > online? But it does cater for when a candidate steps down or if a > replacement is found during the run up to a vote being held. But up to > ten changes? That is an impressive attrition buffer to bloat ;-)! > > > C > > Vint Cerf wrote: >> interestingly, proxy voting in companies does allow vote change up to >> a date certain. >> >> v >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Christian de Larrinaga >> > wrote: >> >> It isn't my vote it is the chapter's. >> >> Actually my concern is that by allowing such an extensive >> opportunity to >> change votes it opens up a prospect for a dutch auction.. my last >> vote >> is now for "x" unless Mssrs "y", "z" or "a" come up with a better >> offer. Not suggesting that offer may be "bitcoins" but .... >> >> Maybe I'm being unfair. That is why I asked why it is a good idea. >> >> Also the practicalities of seeking views and involving the whole >> chapter >> in such an extensive iterative ongoing activity doesn't seem practical >> to me. >> >> >> C >> >> Narelle wrote: >>> My understanding of the rationale of the online system is that the >>> voting delegate can change his/her vote up to the cut off time >> to give >>> us a flexible system, allow for additional comment and discussion to >>> influence your vote. >>> >>> I've never seen this as a forum for "campaigns" per se, though some >>> have been known to do it. >>> >>> I have no idea why the limit on changes is 10 - I would assume that >>> was an arbitrary (and imho reasonable) design choice that could be >>> changed if people really see a need for it. Presumably >> Christian has >>> hit the limit! >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:34 AM, Christian de Larrinaga >>> > wrote: >>>> Why is this a good idea? >>>> C >>>> >>>> Carlos Vera Quintana wrote: >>>>> You can change your vote 10 times only :) >>> >>> >>> Narelle >>> admittedly a Board member, though speaking as an individual >> chapter delegate >>> >>> President >>> ISOC-AU >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically >> subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet >> Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org From amshelp at isoc.org Mon Apr 1 05:27:46 2024 From: amshelp at isoc.org (AMS Helpdesk) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2024 12:27:46 +0000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?Ticket_Updated_-_FW=3A__A_call_to_?= =?utf-8?q?chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: , <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark>, <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> Message-ID: <660aa842c5db7_1cd3f9e417fae0847151.sidekiq-frequent-fd-poduseast1-main5-blue-5bfd875f5-mjss5@notification.freshdesk.com> Dear Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates, There is a new comment on your ticket. You can view your ticket by visiting https://isochelp.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/14256 You can also reply to this email to add your comment. Ticket comment Andre E Copelin ?

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Please be very careful when you?re responding to trouble tickets submitted to AMSHELP or ITHELP.? There appears to be something occurring with our AMSHELP responses.? For some reason, ?our responses are going to the entire Chapter Delegates list.? Below is an example.? ?I submitted a ticket to our team with comments that I assumed would be viewed internally only.? However, they got included in our response and posted on the Chapter Delegates list.?

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Before sending any response, double check the content you?re sending and to whom the response is going.?

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Thanks,

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Date: Monday, April 1, 2024 at 8:09?AM
To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Ticket Updated - FW: A call to chapters? action

Dear Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates,
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Hi Andre,

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We are looking into this - it is an odd behavior from Mailman that only seems to impact certain users. ?

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Every mailman user has their account ID in the name field on the synced lists. Only a very small subset of users are seeing this issue with their name field.

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Matt

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On Apr 1, 2024, at 7:42?AM, AMS Support <amshelp at isoc.org> wrote:

Hi

A new ticket has been assigned to your group "CS - Helpdesk". Please follow the link below to view the ticket.

FW: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action

Team,

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Below is a nice note from one of our Board members, Luis Martinez, inviting the Chapters to host a meeting themselves to discuss some of these issues they?ve been posting on the Chapter delegates list and going back-n-forth with ISOC staff.? This would be a proactive way for them to get aligned on how they can support our mission and not have the sense that we support their missions.?

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Buried in this email is a question from Luis on how he can change his displayed name from ?66499? when he sends these types of notifications.? Any help we can provide him would be greatly appreciated.

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Andre?

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From: Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> on behalf of 66499 via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Date: Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 10:52?PM
To: Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Subject: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action

Dear Members and Friends of ISOC,

During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia but we know that we are well capable of do it.?

Sincerely,

Luis Martinez *
Member of the board of trustees ISOC
ISOC MX

PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List.?

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Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society

Ticket attachments : 1. ATT00001.txt
https://isochelp.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/14256

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Sincerely,
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Please be very careful when you?re responding to trouble tickets submitted to AMSHELP or ITHELP.? There appears to be something occurring with our AMSHELP responses.? For some reason, ?our responses are going to the entire Chapter Delegates list.? Below is an example.? ?I submitted a ticket to our team with comments that I assumed would be viewed internally only.? However, they got included in our response and posted on the Chapter Delegates list.?

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Thanks,

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Date: Monday, April 1, 2024 at 8:09?AM
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Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Ticket Updated - FW: A call to chapters? action

Dear Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates,
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Hi Andre,

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We are looking into this - it is an odd behavior from Mailman that only seems to impact certain users. ?

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Every mailman user has their account ID in the name field on the synced lists. Only a very small subset of users are seeing this issue with their name field.

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Matt

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On Apr 1, 2024, at 7:42?AM, AMS Support <amshelp at isoc.org> wrote:

Hi

A new ticket has been assigned to your group "CS - Helpdesk". Please follow the link below to view the ticket.

FW: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action

Team,

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Below is a nice note from one of our Board members, Luis Martinez, inviting the Chapters to host a meeting themselves to discuss some of these issues they?ve been posting on the Chapter delegates list and going back-n-forth with ISOC staff.? This would be a proactive way for them to get aligned on how they can support our mission and not have the sense that we support their missions.?

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Buried in this email is a question from Luis on how he can change his displayed name from ?66499? when he sends these types of notifications.? Any help we can provide him would be greatly appreciated.

?

Andre?

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From: Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> on behalf of 66499 via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Date: Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 10:52?PM
To: Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Subject: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action

Dear Members and Friends of ISOC,

During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia but we know that we are well capable of do it.?

Sincerely,

Luis Martinez *
Member of the board of trustees ISOC
ISOC MX

PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List.?

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Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society

Ticket attachments : 1. ATT00001.txt
https://isochelp.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/14256

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Sincerely,
Internet Society Support Team

14256:1314861

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If it is in their interest, ChAC could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a position document as a result - if that sounds good to others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what already happens in other summits and working groups: most of the substantial work (definitions of common agendas and concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual meeting (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so we could then present it publicly. Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Board Member @ CC Brasil , ISOC BR and IODA This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu: > Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, > > During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need > to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and > resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. > Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others > organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in > the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long > time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to > our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the > short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our > mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and > conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the > Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia > but we know that we are well capable of do it. > > Sincerely, > > Luis Martinez * > Member of the board of trustees ISOC > ISOC MX > > PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help me > to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. > > Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and > researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of > Trustees Internet Society > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.larancuent at isoc.do Mon Apr 1 08:08:43 2024 From: o.larancuent at isoc.do (Osvaldo Larancuent) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:08:43 +0000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> Message-ID: Hi, Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life event once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different issues based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that?s the rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and so on. Best regards, Osvaldo ---- Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto Chair Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do) https://isoc.do De: Chapter-delegates en nombre de Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates Fecha: lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51?a. m. Para: drhipo at me.com CC: Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action Hi Luis, Loved the suggestion! I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. Considering how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short survey related to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters reunion right before or after the larger event would work well. If it is in their interest, ChAC could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a position document as a result - if that sounds good to others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what already happens in other summits and working groups: most of the substantial work (definitions of common agendas and concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual meeting (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so we could then present it publicly. Cordially, Pedro de Perdig?o Lana Lawyer, GEDAI/UFPR Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Board Member @ CC Brasil, ISOC BR and IODA This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates > escreveu: Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia but we know that we are well capable of do it. Sincerely, Luis Martinez * Member of the board of trustees ISOC ISOC MX PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joly at punkcast.com Mon Apr 1 09:26:31 2024 From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 12:26:31 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> Message-ID: I recall Chapters and members meetings used to happen at every ICANN back in the day, organized by staff, and were happy occasions. There used to be two per ICANN allowing for plenty of lively discussion. I have a few archived ICANN 44 https://isoc.live/4047/ ICANN 46 https://isoc.live/5359/ ICANN 49 https://isoc.live/6454/ ICANN 50 Chapter workshop https://isoc.live/6762/ ICANN 50 https://isoc.live/6765/ ICANN 51 https://isoc.live/7095/ ICANN 52 https://isoc.live/7458/ ICANN 53 https://isoc.live/7847/ Joly On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08?AM Osvaldo Larancuent via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life event > once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different issues > based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that?s the > rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and so > on. > > > > Best regards, > > > Osvaldo > > ---- > > Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto > Chair > > Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do) > > https://isoc.do > > > > > > *De: *Chapter-delegates en > nombre de Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> > *Fecha: *lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51?a. m. > *Para: *drhipo at me.com > *CC: *Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> > *Asunto: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action > > Hi Luis, > > > > Loved the suggestion! > > > > I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. Considering > how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short survey related > to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and > trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters reunion right before > or after the larger event would work well. If it is in their interest, ChAC > could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a > position document as a result - if that sounds good to others, I'd suggest > having a methodology similar to what already happens in other summits and > working groups: most of the substantial work (definitions of common agendas > and concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual meeting > (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so we could then present > it publicly. > > > > Cordially, > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > Board Member @ CC Brasil , ISOC BR > and IODA > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by > mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu: > > Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, > > During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need > to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and > resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. > Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others > organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in > the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long > time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to > our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the > short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our > mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and > conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the > Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia > but we know that we are well capable of do it. > > Sincerely, > > Luis Martinez * > Member of the board of trustees ISOC > ISOC MX > > PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help me > to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. > > > > Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and > researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of > Trustees Internet Society > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nnicholaski at gmail.com Mon Apr 1 10:15:31 2024 From: nnicholaski at gmail.com (Nazar Nicholas) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 20:15:31 +0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> Message-ID: Dear Luis, I second your proposition and we can also setup a telegram group and or WhatsApp group for continuous engagement into the future. +1 to this initiative Nazar Kirama ISOC Tanzania Chapter On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 19:27 Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > > I recall Chapters and members meetings used to happen at every ICANN back > in the day, organized by staff, and were happy occasions. There used to be > two per ICANN allowing for plenty of lively discussion. > > I have a few archived > ICANN 44 https://isoc.live/4047/ > ICANN 46 https://isoc.live/5359/ > ICANN 49 https://isoc.live/6454/ > ICANN 50 Chapter workshop https://isoc.live/6762/ > ICANN 50 https://isoc.live/6765/ > ICANN 51 https://isoc.live/7095/ > ICANN 52 https://isoc.live/7458/ > ICANN 53 https://isoc.live/7847/ > > Joly > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08?AM Osvaldo Larancuent via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life event >> once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different issues >> based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that?s the >> rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and so >> on. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Osvaldo >> >> ---- >> >> Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto >> Chair >> >> Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do) >> >> https://isoc.do >> >> >> >> >> >> *De: *Chapter-delegates en >> nombre de Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >> *Fecha: *lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51?a. m. >> *Para: *drhipo at me.com >> *CC: *Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >> *Asunto: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action >> >> Hi Luis, >> >> >> >> Loved the suggestion! >> >> >> >> I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. Considering >> how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short survey related >> to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and >> trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters reunion right before >> or after the larger event would work well. If it is in their interest, ChAC >> could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a >> position document as a result - if that sounds good to others, I'd suggest >> having a methodology similar to what already happens in other summits and >> working groups: most of the substantial work (definitions of common agendas >> and concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual meeting >> (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so we could then present >> it publicly. >> >> >> >> Cordially, >> >> >> *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >> >> Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >> Researcher >> >> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >> >> Board Member @ CC Brasil , ISOC BR >> and IODA >> >> This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by >> mistake, please reply informing it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu: >> >> Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, >> >> During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need >> to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and >> resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. >> Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others >> organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in >> the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long >> time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to >> our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the >> short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our >> mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and >> conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the >> Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia >> but we know that we are well capable of do it. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Luis Martinez * >> Member of the board of trustees ISOC >> ISOC MX >> >> PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help >> me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. >> >> >> >> Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and >> researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of >> Trustees Internet Society >> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > > > -- > -------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie +12185659365 > -------------------------------------- > - > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -- *Nazar(ius) Nicholas Kirama* *President & Chief Executive Officer* *Internet Society Tanzania Chapter (ISOC-Tz)* *"The Internet i**s for Everyone, when it is available, affordable, and meaningful for everyone "* *..................................................................* *National Coordinator * *Tanzania Internet Governance Forum (TzIGF)* *......................................* *ICT Consultant & Trainer * *AI Expert(Ethics)* *IEEE Member#96674695* *Certified Business Coach (ICF) * E:nnicholaski at gmail.com *Professional Affiliations: **||IEEE: Membership#96674695**||ICANN-UASG|| Web Foundation|| IGF|| **Entrepreneurs Wealth Academy|| Tanzania Federation of Green Revolution|| AFRINIC Community Advocate* ______________________________________________ *Clubs/Associations Affiliation: Founder Member of Roots&Shoots-**The Dr. Jane Goodall's Global Youth Program, **member @PMA,IMA WSPCA, WCST, **The Internet Society**,**International Coaching Federation.* ______________________________________ *Joshua1:8 @**Haggai 2:8 **@Deuteronomy 8:17-18* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drhipo at me.com Mon Apr 1 10:58:06 2024 From: drhipo at me.com (drhipo at me.com) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 11:58:06 -0600 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] A call to =?utf-8?Q?chapters=E2=80=99_?=action In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> Message-ID: <8add69de-1380-4617-9803-b5b919c88ec2@Spark> Thanks everybody, and taking notes plus future comments to build a proposal. We want to be inclusive so all ideas are welcome and included in the proposal. As I said, its time to chapter members to get proactive and build our future on our shared vision. Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society On 1 Apr 2024 10:27 -0600, Joly MacFie , wrote: > > I recall Chapters and?members meetings used to happen at every ICANN back in the day, organized by staff, and were happy occasions. There used to be two per ICANN allowing for plenty of lively discussion. > > I have a few archived > ICANN 44?https://isoc.live/4047/ > ICANN 46?https://isoc.live/5359/ > ICANN 49?https://isoc.live/6454/ > ICANN 50 Chapter workshop?https://isoc.live/6762/ > ICANN 50?https://isoc.live/6765/ > ICANN 51?https://isoc.live/7095/ > ICANN 52?https://isoc.live/7458/ > ICANN 53?https://isoc.live/7847/ > > Joly > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08?AM Osvaldo Larancuent via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life event once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different issues based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that?s the rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and so on. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Osvaldo > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto > > > Chair > > > Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do) > > > https://isoc.do > > > > > > > > > De: Chapter-delegates en nombre de Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates > > > Fecha: lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51?a.?m. > > > Para: drhipo at me.com > > > CC: Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates > > > Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action > > > Hi Luis, > > > > > > Loved the suggestion! > > > > > > I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. Considering how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short survey related to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters reunion right before or after the larger event would work well. If it is in their interest, ChAC could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a position document as a result - if that sounds good to others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what already happens in other summits and working groups: most of the substantial work (definitions of common agendas and concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual meeting (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so we could then present it publicly. > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > Pedro de Perdig?o Lana > > > Lawyer, GEDAI/UFPR Researcher > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > > Board Member @ CC Brasil, ISOC BR and IODA > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > > > > Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates escreveu: > > > > Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, > > > > > > > > During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia but we know that we are well capable of do it. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Luis Martinez * > > > > Member of the board of trustees ISOC > > > > ISOC MX > > > > > > > > PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. > > > > > > > > Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > > > > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): > > > > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > > > > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > > > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): > > > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > > > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > > -- > -------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie? +12185659365 > -------------------------------------- > - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have discussed different ways of making chapters more actively engaged in the ISOC's life, and vice versa, so I just want to cool down the expectations. There has been a constant lack of enough understanding at some levels about the importance of the chapters in ISOC, and they have been largely underused. As you may have noticed, I don't participate in the current discussion, as we have seen this over, and over, and over, and over... Best, veni ISOC Bulgaria (est. 1995) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From theoeli31 at gmail.com Mon Apr 1 12:08:30 2024 From: theoeli31 at gmail.com (Theorose Elikplim) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:08:30 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> <8add69de-1380-4617-9803-b5b919c88ec2@Spark> Message-ID: Hello Luis, I support having a space or an event where all the chapters could meet to discuss ongoing issues. Perhaps, we could consider having a full day or a day zero as part of the ISOC community week where these discussions can take place. Theorose On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 2:25?PM Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Hi, Luis. > Just one clarification below. > > On 4/1/24 13:58, 66499 via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > Thanks everybody, and taking notes plus future comments to build a > proposal. We want to be inclusive so all ideas are welcome and included in > the proposal. As I said, its time to chapter members to get proactive and > build our future on our shared vision. > > > Chapters and chapter members have been proactive through the years; > nothing that happens today is new, and/or it has happened at some point in > the past. We have discussed different ways of making chapters more actively > engaged in the ISOC's life, and vice versa, so I just want to cool down the > expectations. > There has been a constant lack of enough understanding at some levels > about the importance of the chapters in ISOC, and they have been largely > underused. > As you may have noticed, I don't participate in the current discussion, as > we have seen this over, and over, and over, and over... > > Best, > veni > > ISOC Bulgaria (est. 1995) > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -- *Theorose Elikplim Dzineku.* Lecturer at Ghana Institute of Journalism. Faculty of journalism and Media Studies M.phil,* Media Studies* University of Education B.A & M.A* Journalism*, GIJ. +233548884462. theorose.dzineku at gij.edu.gh twitter:@TDzineku LinkedIn: Theorose Elikplim Dzineku -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From victor at jvknet.com Mon Apr 1 15:19:22 2024 From: victor at jvknet.com (Victor Kuarsingh) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 18:19:22 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?2024_ISOC_Board_Elections_?= =?utf-8?b?4oCTIERvbuKAmXQgRm9yZ2V0IHRvIFZvdGUh?= Message-ID: Dear Chapter Leaders: As a reminder, voting closes this *Friday, 5 April at 15:00 UTC*. If you have not already voted, I encourage you to do so as soon as possible! Additional information about the election and key points of contact are below in my earlier message. Many thanks to those who have already exercised their right as a member to vote in this election ? we greatly appreciate your participation and engagement! regards, Victor Kuarsingh 2024 Elections Committee Chair Internet Society -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w.yu at gmx.net Mon Apr 1 18:41:36 2024 From: w.yu at gmx.net (Winthrop Yu) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 09:41:36 +0800 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> Message-ID: <78201a48-1c9f-4a45-afa6-5c8584b91630@gmx.net> There used to be regular Regional (in-person) meetings of the Chapters too ... until the Regional Bureaus were dismantled and Chapter Enforcement was centralized. WYn On 2 Apr 2024 12:26 AM, Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > I recall Chapters and?members meetings used to happen at every ICANN back in > the day, organized by staff, and were happy occasions. There used to be two > per ICANN allowing for plenty of lively discussion. > > I have a few archived > ICANN 44 https://isoc.live/4047/ > ICANN 46 https://isoc.live/5359/ > ICANN 49 https://isoc.live/6454/ > ICANN 50 Chapter workshop https://isoc.live/6762/ > ICANN 50 https://isoc.live/6765/ > ICANN 51 https://isoc.live/7095/ > ICANN 52 https://isoc.live/7458/ > ICANN 53 https://isoc.live/7847/ > > Joly > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08?AM Osvaldo Larancuent via Chapter-delegates > wrote: > > Hi, > > Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life event > once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different > issues based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that?s > the rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and > so on. > > Best regards, > > Osvaldo > > ---- > > Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto > Chair > > Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do) > > https://isoc.do > > *De: *Chapter-delegates en > nombre de Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates > > *Fecha: *lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51?a.?m. > *Para: *drhipo at me.com > *CC: *Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates > *Asunto: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action > > Hi Luis, > > Loved the suggestion! > > I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. Considering > how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short survey related > to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at > and trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters reunion right > before or after the larger event would work well. If it is in their > interest, ChAC could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to > also elaborate a position document as a result - if that sounds good to > others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what already happens > in other summits and working groups: most of the substantial work > (definitions of common agendas and concerns, etc.) would be made a few > months before the actual meeting (focusing on finalizing and confirming > the text), so we could then present it publicly. > > Cordially, > > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana > *Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Board Member @ CC Brasil , ISOC BR > and IODA > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by > mistake, please reply informing it. > > Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates > escreveu: > > Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, > > During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we > need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software > and resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and > regions. Some discussions are happening at a national or regional > level, others organized by the staff that we interact with. However, > most is happening in the email lists as we have been precluded of > meeting physically for long time. As a member of ISOC, I would, > respectfully, like to make a call to our 120+ chapters to collectively > think about how we can organize in the short term a discussion about > the issues that we face to fulfill our mission -global, regional or > national. Not a meeting organized and conducted by Staff, not within > another organizations? event, but by the Chapters and their leadership > with open participation. It may be an utopia but we know that we are > well capable of do it. > > Sincerely, > > Luis Martinez * > Member of the board of trustees ISOC > ISOC MX > > PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may > help me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That?s why we need more strategy which needs to be figured out from collective thinking. Is it lack of leadership ? I have the feeling that if we do not reflect we wont be building that future we would like to be at. Let?s keep the discussion. Sincerely, Luis Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society On 1 Apr 2024 19:41 -0600, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates , wrote: > There used to be regular Regional (in-person) meetings of the Chapters too ... until the Regional Bureaus were dismantled and Chapter Enforcement was centralized. > WYn > On 2 Apr 2024 12:26 AM, Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > > > I recall Chapters and?members meetings used to happen at every ICANN back in the day, organized by staff, and were happy occasions. There used to be two per ICANN allowing for plenty of lively discussion. > > > > I have a few archived > > ICANN 44?https://isoc.live/4047/ > > ICANN 46?https://isoc.live/5359/ > > ICANN 49?https://isoc.live/6454/ > > ICANN 50 Chapter workshop?https://isoc.live/6762/ > > ICANN 50?https://isoc.live/6765/ > > ICANN 51?https://isoc.live/7095/ > > ICANN 52?https://isoc.live/7458/ > > ICANN 53?https://isoc.live/7847/ > > > > Joly > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08?AM Osvaldo Larancuent via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life event once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different issues based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that?s the rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and so on. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Osvaldo > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto > > > > Chair > > > > Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do) > > > > https://isoc.do > > > > > > > > > > > > De: Chapter-delegates en nombre de Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates > > > > Fecha: lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51?a.?m. > > > > Para: drhipo at me.com > > > > CC: Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates > > > > Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action > > > > Hi Luis, > > > > Loved the suggestion! > > > > I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. Considering how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short survey related to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters reunion right before or after the larger event would work well. If it is in their interest, ChAC could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a position document as a result - if that sounds good to others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what already happens in other summits and working groups: most of the substantial work (definitions of common agendas and concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual meeting (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so we could then present it publicly. > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > > > Pedro de Perdig?o Lana > > > > Lawyer, GEDAI/UFPR Researcher > > > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > > > > Board Member @ CC Brasil, ISOC BR and IODA > > > > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. > > > > > > > > Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates escreveu: > > > > > Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, > > > > > > > > > > During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia but we know that we are well capable of do it. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Luis Martinez * > > > > > Member of the board of trustees ISOC > > > > > ISOC MX > > > > > > > > > > PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w.yu at gmx.net Mon Apr 1 18:57:18 2024 From: w.yu at gmx.net (Winthrop Yu) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 09:57:18 +0800 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> <8add69de-1380-4617-9803-b5b919c88ec2@Spark> Message-ID: +1 Veni. For example, Chapters proactively made their views clear regarding the PIR sell-off, even if the then Chapters' Advisory Committee (ChAC) had to repeat the process following criticism from the powers that be. Chapters have also been vocal about personnel changes (Raj, Rinalia, Joly) and funding. And lately, Chapters have also aired their issues with the new AMS - Fonteva, even as ISOC Central/HQ claims that Chapters had been sufficiently consulted before-hand (I can't imagine that any Chapter Leader would approve of Fonteva/SalesForce.com as it is). WYn On 2 Apr 2024 2:25 AM, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Hi, Luis. > > Just one clarification below. > > On 4/1/24 13:58, 66499 via Chapter-delegates wrote: >> Thanks everybody, and taking notes plus future comments to build a proposal. >> We want to be inclusive so all ideas are welcome and included in the >> proposal. As I said, its time to chapter members to get proactive and build >> our future on our shared vision. > > Chapters and chapter members have been proactive through the years; nothing > that happens today is new, and/or it has happened at some point in the past. > We have discussed different ways of making chapters more actively engaged in > the ISOC's life, and vice versa, so I just want to cool down the expectations. > > There has been a constant lack of enough understanding at some levels about > the importance of the chapters in ISOC, and they have been largely underused. > As you may have noticed, I don't participate in the current discussion, as we > have seen this over, and over, and over, and over... > > Best, > veni > > ISOC Bulgaria (est. 1995) > > _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From langdonorr at gmail.com Mon Apr 1 19:31:30 2024 From: langdonorr at gmail.com (Cheryl Langdon-Orr) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 13:31:30 +1100 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> <78201a48-1c9f-4a45-afa6-5c8584b91630@gmx.net> Message-ID: Regarding your specific questions re ChAC Luis, in addition to email lists and ChAC Reps being often active on the CH-delegates list, the ChAC as an entity meets, as a plenary (with all ChAC Reps) 4 times a year (once a calendar quarter) and the report/update to the BoT occurs at the BoT meeting immediately after that plenary session, (often only days later in fact), BUT of course anything urgent or time critical can and would be transmitted intersessional to the calendar cadence of BoT gatherings... Additionally, the ChAC Steering Committee meets monthly, and not only any ongoing transmitted to the BoT or urgent new issues are discussed, reviewed, and, if needed, action at these more recent meetings (at least since the end of 2022) an 'always open 24x7' box note system where any matter for the attention of the ChAC can be raised for between meeting note and action; as well as a separate open to ChAC Reps box note where any suggestions for topics and activities for future ChAC plenaries can be proposed is in operation. Cheryl Langdon-Orr about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 12:55, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Veni, Theo, Win, All, > > Thanks for your responses. Maybe we are not asking the right questions to > ourselves. What is the ISOC we imagine, the one we need and what is > possible to have ? Somehow we got in the slow lane, how many meetings the > ChAC has in a year ? How long it takes the information to get to the Board > ? If able, how the board may ask for some action and finally how long it > takes some change to happen ? That is something we have not figured out how > to overcome. We are getting speedy responses but that keeps us always > around the same place. That?s why we need more strategy which needs to be > figured out from collective thinking. Is it lack of leadership ? I have the > feeling that if we do not reflect we wont be building that future we would > like to be at. > > Let?s keep the discussion. > > Sincerely, > > Luis > > > Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and > researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of > Trustees Internet Society > On 1 Apr 2024 19:41 -0600, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, wrote: > > There used to be regular Regional (in-person) meetings of the Chapters too > ... until the Regional Bureaus were dismantled and Chapter Enforcement was > centralized. > > WYn > On 2 Apr 2024 12:26 AM, Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > > I recall Chapters and members meetings used to happen at every ICANN back > in the day, organized by staff, and were happy occasions. There used to be > two per ICANN allowing for plenty of lively discussion. > > I have a few archived > ICANN 44 https://isoc.live/4047/ > ICANN 46 https://isoc.live/5359/ > ICANN 49 https://isoc.live/6454/ > ICANN 50 Chapter workshop https://isoc.live/6762/ > ICANN 50 https://isoc.live/6765/ > ICANN 51 https://isoc.live/7095/ > ICANN 52 https://isoc.live/7458/ > ICANN 53 https://isoc.live/7847/ > > Joly > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08?AM Osvaldo Larancuent via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life event >> once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different issues >> based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that?s the >> rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and so >> on. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Osvaldo >> >> ---- >> >> Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto >> Chair >> >> Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do) >> >> https://isoc.do >> >> >> >> >> >> *De:* Chapter-delegates en >> nombre de Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >> *Fecha:* lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51?a. m. >> *Para:* drhipo at me.com >> *CC:* Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >> *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action >> >> Hi Luis, >> >> Loved the suggestion! >> >> I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. Considering >> how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short survey related >> to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and >> trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters reunion right before >> or after the larger event would work well. If it is in their interest, ChAC >> could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a >> position document as a result - if that sounds good to others, I'd suggest >> having a methodology similar to what already happens in other summits and >> working groups: most of the substantial work (definitions of common agendas >> and concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual meeting >> (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so we could then present >> it publicly. >> >> Cordially, >> >> >> >> *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , >> GEDAI/UFPR Researcher >> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >> Board Member @ CC Brasil , ISOC BR >> and IODA >> >> This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by >> mistake, please reply informing it. >> >> >> >> Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu: >> >> Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, >> >> During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need >> to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and >> resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. >> Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others >> organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in >> the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long >> time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to >> our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the >> short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our >> mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and >> conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the >> Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia >> but we know that we are well capable of do it. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Luis Martinez * >> Member of the board of trustees ISOC >> ISOC MX >> >> PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. 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URL: From hipouia at gmail.com Mon Apr 1 23:48:15 2024 From: hipouia at gmail.com (Luis Martinez) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 00:48:15 -0600 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A__A_call_to_chapters?= =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> <78201a48-1c9f-4a45-afa6-5c8584b91630@gmx.net> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Luis Martinez Date: Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 22:35 Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action To: Cheryl Langdon-Orr Thanks Cheryl. Of course, I know how ChAC works. It is my duty to understand many of the intricacies of ISOC. That is why I dared to open a discussion that would lead us to reflection. We have a strategic planning that is the result of a very long and productive discussion within the whole organization. We are talking about a six year term, where we need to grow, strengthen, defend, and protect the Internet; and we -as a system- usually act with immediate explanations and justifications. After that, we usually pretend everything is normal. Strategically, it is very un-strategic to pursue long term objectives upon well time-spaced short-term actions. We all love to hear that everything is working as well-oiled machinery, but without self-questioning we tend to forget the important few things that make a difference. The people -us, the ones mentioned in our 2030 Strategy- need to act, if not it will become dead-letter well before 2030. Without compromise the institution -ISOC- can not provide the appropriate focused resources. Sincerely, Luis PS I am switching to my gmail account as I don't get used to my 66499 name in the sender field. On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:31?PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Regarding your specific questions re ChAC Luis, in addition to email > lists and ChAC Reps being often active on the CH-delegates list, the ChAC > as an entity meets, as a plenary (with all ChAC Reps) 4 times a year (once > a calendar quarter) and the report/update to the BoT occurs at the BoT > meeting immediately after that plenary session, (often only days later in > fact), BUT of course anything urgent or time critical can and would be > transmitted intersessional to the calendar cadence of BoT gatherings... > > Additionally, the ChAC Steering Committee meets monthly, and not only any > ongoing transmitted to the BoT or urgent new issues are discussed, > reviewed, and, if needed, action at these more recent meetings (at least > since the end of 2022) an 'always open 24x7' box note system where any > matter for the attention of the ChAC can be raised for between meeting note > and action; as well as a separate open to ChAC Reps box note where any > suggestions for topics and activities for future ChAC plenaries can be > proposed is in operation. > > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr > about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr > > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 12:55, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Dear Veni, Theo, Win, All, >> >> Thanks for your responses. Maybe we are not asking the right questions to >> ourselves. What is the ISOC we imagine, the one we need and what is >> possible to have ? Somehow we got in the slow lane, how many meetings the >> ChAC has in a year ? How long it takes the information to get to the Board >> ? If able, how the board may ask for some action and finally how long it >> takes some change to happen ? That is something we have not figured out how >> to overcome. We are getting speedy responses but that keeps us always >> around the same place. That?s why we need more strategy which needs to be >> figured out from collective thinking. Is it lack of leadership ? I have the >> feeling that if we do not reflect we wont be building that future we would >> like to be at. >> >> Let?s keep the discussion. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Luis >> >> >> Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and >> researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of >> Trustees Internet Society >> On 1 Apr 2024 19:41 -0600, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, wrote: >> >> There used to be regular Regional (in-person) meetings of the Chapters >> too ... until the Regional Bureaus were dismantled and Chapter Enforcement >> was centralized. >> >> WYn >> On 2 Apr 2024 12:26 AM, Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates wrote: >> >> >> I recall Chapters and members meetings used to happen at every ICANN back >> in the day, organized by staff, and were happy occasions. There used to be >> two per ICANN allowing for plenty of lively discussion. >> >> I have a few archived >> ICANN 44 https://isoc.live/4047/ >> ICANN 46 https://isoc.live/5359/ >> ICANN 49 https://isoc.live/6454/ >> ICANN 50 Chapter workshop https://isoc.live/6762/ >> ICANN 50 https://isoc.live/6765/ >> ICANN 51 https://isoc.live/7095/ >> ICANN 52 https://isoc.live/7458/ >> ICANN 53 https://isoc.live/7847/ >> >> Joly >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08?AM Osvaldo Larancuent via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life >>> event once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different >>> issues based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that?s >>> the rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and >>> so on. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Osvaldo >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto >>> Chair >>> >>> Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do) >>> >>> https://isoc.do >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *De:* Chapter-delegates en >>> nombre de Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates < >>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >>> *Fecha:* lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51?a. m. >>> *Para:* drhipo at me.com >>> *CC:* Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates < >>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >>> *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action >>> >>> Hi Luis, >>> >>> Loved the suggestion! >>> >>> I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. >>> Considering how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short >>> survey related to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most >>> present at and trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters >>> reunion right before or after the larger event would work well. If it is in >>> their interest, ChAC could have a central role in this. It seems >>> interesting to also elaborate a position document as a result - if that >>> sounds good to others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what >>> already happens in other summits and working groups: most of the >>> substantial work (definitions of common agendas and concerns, etc.) would >>> be made a few months before the actual meeting (focusing on finalizing and >>> confirming the text), so we could then present it publicly. >>> >>> Cordially, >>> >>> >>> >>> *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , >>> GEDAI/UFPR Researcher >>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>> Board Member @ CC Brasil , ISOC BR >>> and IODA >>> >>> This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received >>> by mistake, please reply informing it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < >>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu: >>> >>> Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, >>> >>> During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we >>> need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and >>> resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. >>> Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others >>> organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in >>> the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long >>> time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to >>> our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the >>> short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our >>> mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and >>> conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the >>> Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia >>> but we know that we are well capable of do it. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Luis Martinez * >>> Member of the board of trustees ISOC >>> ISOC MX >>> >>> PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help >>> me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From borka at e5.ijs.si Mon Apr 1 23:49:49 2024 From: borka at e5.ijs.si (borka at e5.ijs.si) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 08:49:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?iso8859-7?q?A_call_to_chapters=A2_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> <8add69de-1380-4617-9803-b5b919c88ec2@Spark> Message-ID: +1 Good note Veni!! Borka On Mon, 1 Apr 2024, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Hi, Luis. > Just one clarification below. > > On 4/1/24 13:58, 66499 via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Thanks everybody, and taking notes plus future comments to build > a proposal. We want to be inclusive so all ideas are welcome and > included in the proposal. As I said, its time to chapter members > to get proactive and build our future on our shared vision. > > > Chapters and chapter members have been proactive through the years; nothing > that happens today is new, and/or it has happened at some point in the past. > We have discussed different ways of making chapters more actively engaged in > the ISOC's life, and vice versa, so I just want to cool down the > expectations. > There has been a constant lack of enough understanding at some levels about > the importance of the chapters in ISOC, and they have been largely > underused. > As you may have noticed, I don't participate in the current discussion, as > we have seen this over, and over, and over, and over... > > Best, > veni > > ISOC Bulgaria (est. 1995) > > From sarai.ftevita at gmail.com Tue Apr 2 02:53:10 2024 From: sarai.ftevita at gmail.com (Sarai F Tevita) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 22:53:10 +1300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> Message-ID: Second your suggestion Luis. Regards Sarai. PICISOC Chair On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:51?AM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Hi Luis, > > Loved the suggestion! > > I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. Considering > how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short survey related > to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and > trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters reunion right before > or after the larger event would work well. If it is in their interest, ChAC > could have a central role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a > position document as a result - if that sounds good to others, I'd suggest > having a methodology similar to what already happens in other summits and > working groups: most of the substantial work (definitions of common agendas > and concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual meeting > (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so we could then present > it publicly. > > Cordially, > > *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* > Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR > Researcher > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) > Board Member @ CC Brasil , ISOC BR > and IODA > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by > mistake, please reply informing it. > > > Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu: > >> Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, >> >> During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we need >> to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and >> resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. >> Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others >> organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in >> the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long >> time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to >> our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the >> short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our >> mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and >> conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the >> Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia >> but we know that we are well capable of do it. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Luis Martinez * >> Member of the board of trustees ISOC >> ISOC MX >> >> PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help >> me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. >> >> Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and >> researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of >> Trustees Internet Society >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sullivan at isoc.org Tue Apr 2 07:19:31 2024 From: sullivan at isoc.org (Andrew Sullivan) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 10:19:31 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?in-person_meetings_and_regional_bu?= =?utf-8?q?reaux_=28was_Re=3A__A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action=29?= In-Reply-To: <78201a48-1c9f-4a45-afa6-5c8584b91630@gmx.net> References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> <78201a48-1c9f-4a45-afa6-5c8584b91630@gmx.net> Message-ID: Dear colleagues, On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 09:41:36AM +0800, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates wrote: >There used to be regular Regional (in-person) meetings of the Chapters >too ... until the Regional Bureaus were dismantled and Chapter >Enforcement was centralized. The above makes an implication, without actually stating it outright, that the end of regional bureaux was the cause of the end of in-person chapter meetings. This is false. It is true that we decided in 2019 to eliminate the regional bureau structure. The reason for this was simple: the Internet Society simply didn't have the money or staff to operate that way. When I started in this job, every regional bureau wanted to have a miniature Internet Society staff organization with respect to technology, policy, and projects. This meant two things: regional bureau positions and priorities could differ from the Internet Society's positions and priorities; and also, there was competition for resources and staff between the global organization and the regional bureaux. To solve this, we reorganized most of the staff into a large pool of project staff, who work on projects according to need and capability. The result has been a considerably more flexible organization that can bring its wide range of expertise to bear on a problem without worrying about internal politics as to whether a staff member is a "regional" or "global" staff member. Under this arrangement we created the positions of Regional Vice Presidents (and, later, added positions for Senior Directors of Government and Regulatory Affairs). Those staff members continued to hold principle responsibility for ensuring the Internet Society was paying attention to issues that loomed large in a given region of the world. I won't pretend that has worked flawlessly, but it has often worked quite well. Note that the regional bureaux were not primarily responsible for chapters starting in January 2019: that was the community engagement group, which remains an active part of the Internet Society's operations. The reason for this was that chapter relationships were often quite unpredictable, according to the emphasis of a given regional bureau. This was unfair to chapters, some of which got a lot of attention while others got little. Finally, none of that has anything to do with why the in-person meetings ended. You may recall that, in 2020, there were a number of travel restrictions around the world. It was infeasible to hold in-person chapter meetings just as much as it was infeasible to hold any other in-person meetings. But when we built a virtual event, something wonderful happened. Because the old in-person meetings had to happen in physical meeting facilities and had to get everyone to the venue, the meetings were generally restricted to the chapter leaders -- usually, the president or something similar. This meant that for _most_ chapter members, there was no way to engage with these events. The online, virtual event had way more participation, from a much larger cross-section of chapter participants, than the old in-person meeting had. So, we decided to extend the use of the virtual approach, and we believe that has continued to encourage deeper and wider participation by members of the community in our shared efforts as the Internet Society. I hope this clarifies some of the history. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan, President & CEO, Internet Society e:sullivan at isoc.org m:+1 416 731 1261 Help protect the Internet for everyone: https://www.internetsociety.org/donate/ From sullivan at isoc.org Tue Apr 2 07:34:33 2024 From: sullivan at isoc.org (Andrew Sullivan) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 10:34:33 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Email and Fonteva (was Re: Re: Questions to Internet Society Board of Trustees from the UK England Chapter of the Internet Society) In-Reply-To: References: <6b470682-e8ad-43bf-a12b-2d47c72646cc@gih.com> Message-ID: Hi, I think we have tried, more than once, to address the question below, but the way this was stated gave me a new idea about how to address it; so I hope this round will help to explain to people why something they think should be trivial is in fact not. On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 07:11:52PM +0300, Nazar Nicholas via Chapter-delegates wrote: >short of being ? user friendly ?. It was touted as robust AMS but having >used it I feel that when you are sending a simple email to member, you have >got to first qualify as a techie. Sending email is supposed to be a 1,2,3 >and there it goes! But for FONTEVA you have to hussle to send a simple >email. Why could they integrate in the Fonteva AMS a simple email sending >platform like gmail type of thing? The challenge that I think many people are having is that they're imagining sending email to chapter members from the chapter (i.e. from the chapter's account, or from an officer's account, or whatever) is like sending an email from one person to another, or even to a mailing list. But it isn't, and the reason has to do with spam control laws as well as anti-spam techniques that mail providers use. When you send mail _as an organization_, you fall under various spam-control regimes around the world. All of them, it appears, have two basic classes of things. One of them are strictly required communications that are a necessary part of being associated with the association in question. So, for instance, when you sign up for membership in a chapter, there are certain emails that you are _intrinsically_ agreeing to get, and the only way not to get those is to give up being a member. These mails, even if not wanted, are not "spam" because they are part of the function of being a member at all. Other mails are the sort of thing that a member might not want to hear about, even if it is generally of interest to chapter membership. This might be, for instance, progress on a major chapter initiative. Anti-spam legislation treats these two cases very differently, and therefore we have to have a mechanism to do so. This is the reason for the somewhat complicated set-up of profiles before sending email. As others have already noted on this list, once the profiles are set up, they can be re-used. But we recognize that this is an unaccustomed part of the workflow. That is the reason we have tried to provide a number of different resources for people who are having to operate this new workflow element. We have dedicated support staff that are available to help you with this as you are developing your workflow. Please continue to rely on us to provide that support, so that every chapter can be successful with this and also so that we can all comply with antispam regulations and laws. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan, President & CEO, Internet Society e:sullivan at isoc.org m:+1 416 731 1261 Help protect the Internet for everyone: https://www.internetsociety.org/donate/ From hank at post.isoc.org.il Tue Apr 2 08:19:46 2024 From: hank at post.isoc.org.il (Hank Nussbacher) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 18:19:46 +0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Email and Fonteva (was Re: Re: Questions to Internet Society Board of Trustees from the UK England Chapter of the Internet Society) In-Reply-To: References: <6b470682-e8ad-43bf-a12b-2d47c72646cc@gih.com> Message-ID: On 02/04/2024 17:34, Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > When you send mail _as an organization_, you fall under various > spam-control regimes around the world.? All of them, it appears, have > two basic classes of things.? One of them are strictly required > communications that are a necessary part of being associated with the > association in question.? So, for instance, when you sign up for > membership in a chapter, there are certain emails that you are > _intrinsically_ agreeing to get, and the only way not to get those is > to give up being a member.? These mails, even if not wanted, are not > "spam" because they are part of the function of being a member at all. > > Other mails are the sort of thing that a member might not want to hear > about, even if it is generally of interest to chapter membership.? > This might be, for instance, progress on a major chapter initiative. > > Anti-spam legislation treats these two cases very differently, and > therefore we have to have a mechanism to do so.? This is the reason > for the somewhat complicated set-up of profiles before sending email.? > As others have already noted on this list, once the profiles are set > up, they can be re-used.? But we recognize that this is an > unaccustomed part of the workflow. > Fascinating.? I did not realize that. On the other hand, ICANN uses Mailman lists like: https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccnso-members and numerous other lists: https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ There are membership only lists, discussion style lists, etc. RIPE maintains membership mailing lists: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/ripe-ncc-mailing-lists/ as well as numerous discussion style open to anyone mailing lists: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/ripe-mailing-lists/ Can you indicate what anti-spam legislation they are in violation with their methods of maintaining contact with their membership via Mailman? Regards, Hank From sullivan at isoc.org Tue Apr 2 08:33:16 2024 From: sullivan at isoc.org (Andrew Sullivan) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 11:33:16 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Email and Fonteva (was Re: Re: Questions to Internet Society Board of Trustees from the UK England Chapter of the Internet Society) In-Reply-To: References: <6b470682-e8ad-43bf-a12b-2d47c72646cc@gih.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 06:19:46PM +0300, Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates wrote: > >On the other hand, ICANN uses Mailman lists Sure. We also have some mailman lists, and of course ICANN doesn't have members anyway, so the situation is different. >RIPE maintains membership mailing lists: I cannot and will not comment on RIPE's operations, but it's also the case that RIPE doesn't work in as many jurisdictions as the Internet Society does. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan, President & CEO, Internet Society e:sullivan at isoc.org m:+1 416 731 1261 Help protect the Internet for everyone: https://www.internetsociety.org/donate/ From pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com Tue Apr 2 09:38:16 2024 From: pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pedro_de_Perdig=C3=A3o_Lana?=) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2024 13:38:16 -0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> Message-ID: Hi Levy, If I got it right, i think the idea here is to organize it through the chapters themselves, not the board or staff. Cordially, *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Board Member @ CC Brasil , ISOC BR and IODA This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it. Em ter., 2 de abr. de 2024 ?s 09:27, levy syanseke escreveu: > Hi all, > I love how this conversation is going. > I do have an appreciation for Quarterly calls and they are usually great > and the Community Week meetings. I feel in person or hybrid meetings will > be better for increased impact and growth. > > If there is a way to begin with ISOC community engagements, even an extra > day only for ISOC chapters during regional IGFs, ICANN or IGF meetings > would be great. > > If the board and the ISOC leadership can look into this will be better. > > Regards > > Levy Syanseke > > Media Studies Tutor | Ramah Designs > - Founder > > Internet Society Zambia Chapter - Founding > president > > Youth IGF Movement - Community Coordinator > +260 978 210 494 <+260+978+210+494> > lsyanseke at gmail.com > > > God Loves You! > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:52?AM Sarai F Tevita via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Second your suggestion Luis. >> >> Regards >> Sarai. >> PICISOC Chair >> >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 1:51?AM Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via >> Chapter-delegates wrote: >> >>> Hi Luis, >>> >>> Loved the suggestion! >>> >>> I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event. >>> Considering how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short >>> survey related to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most >>> present at and trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters >>> reunion right before or after the larger event would work well. If it is in >>> their interest, ChAC could have a central role in this. It seems >>> interesting to also elaborate a position document as a result - if that >>> sounds good to others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what >>> already happens in other summits and working groups: most of the >>> substantial work (definitions of common agendas and concerns, etc.) would >>> be made a few months before the actual meeting (focusing on finalizing and >>> confirming the text), so we could then present it publicly. >>> >>> Cordially, >>> >>> *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana* >>> Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >>> Researcher >>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>> Board Member @ CC Brasil , ISOC BR >>> and IODA >>> This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received >>> by mistake, please reply informing it. >>> >>> >>> Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < >>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu: >>> >>>> Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, >>>> >>>> During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we >>>> need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and >>>> resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions. >>>> Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others >>>> organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in >>>> the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long >>>> time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to >>>> our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the >>>> short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our >>>> mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and >>>> conducted by Staff, not within another organizations? event, but by the >>>> Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia >>>> but we know that we are well capable of do it. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Luis Martinez * >>>> Member of the board of trustees ISOC >>>> ISOC MX >>>> >>>> PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don?t know who may help >>>> me to display my name when writing to the Chapter?s Delegate List. >>>> >>>> Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and >>>> researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of >>>> Trustees Internet Society >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): >>>> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >>>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>> Chapter Portal (AMS): >>> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ocl at gih.com Wed Apr 3 01:24:14 2024 From: ocl at gih.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Olivier_MJ_Cr=C3=A9pin-Leblond?=) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 10:24:14 +0200 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Email and Fonteva (was Re: Re: Questions to Internet Society Board of Trustees from the UK England Chapter of the Internet Society) In-Reply-To: References: <6b470682-e8ad-43bf-a12b-2d47c72646cc@gih.com> Message-ID: <635136c3-5053-4943-8ada-c4a70195d4f5@gih.com> Dear Andrew, thank you for your follow-up relating to the ISOC FONTEVA emailing system. I must admit I am baffled by your explanation. I understand that the complexity of international regulations relating to bulk mailings is increasingly complicated, but I cannot see the link between an incredibly cumbersome, illogical and unfriendly way to send bulk emails out from FONTEVA and spam legislation. For an example on how all of the above seems to be addressed easily you just need to see a product like MailChimp to show how it *should* be done. See how simple this is: https://youtu.be/T7t2ihsGYak?si=r0FB5MLN2MGjYWo- This was the 2017 version. The current MailChimp is even easier to use and better to make really excellent newsletters and mailings. On top of this, its help section is really helpful and has lots and lots of excellent templates. Frankly most of the features found in MailChimp are found in other mailing systems that are equally as simple - for example ConstantContact and others. And none of these have a problem with GDPR, Spam, etc. I am still puzzled as to how the FONTEVA folks designed what they designed, unless we are trying to use the tool for something it is not meant to do. Kindest regards, Olivier On 02/04/2024 16:34, Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Hi, > > I think we have tried, more than once, to address the question below, > but the way this was stated gave me a new idea about how to address > it; so I hope this round will help to explain to people why something > they think should be trivial is in fact not. > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 07:11:52PM +0300, Nazar Nicholas via > Chapter-delegates wrote: > >> short of being ? user friendly ?. It was touted as robust AMS but having >> used it I feel that when you are sending a simple email to member, >> you have >> got to first qualify as a techie. Sending email is supposed to be a >> 1,2,3 >> and there it goes! But for FONTEVA you have to hussle to send a simple >> email. Why could they integrate in the Fonteva AMS a simple email >> sending >> platform like gmail type of thing? > > The challenge that I think many people are having is that they're > imagining sending email to chapter members from the chapter (i.e. from > the chapter's account, or from an officer's account, or whatever) is > like sending an email from one person to another, or even to a mailing > list.? But it isn't, and the reason has to do with spam control laws > as well as anti-spam techniques that mail providers use. > > When you send mail _as an organization_, you fall under various > spam-control regimes around the world.? All of them, it appears, have > two basic classes of things.? One of them are strictly required > communications that are a necessary part of being associated with the > association in question.? So, for instance, when you sign up for > membership in a chapter, there are certain emails that you are > _intrinsically_ agreeing to get, and the only way not to get those is > to give up being a member.? These mails, even if not wanted, are not > "spam" because they are part of the function of being a member at all. > > Other mails are the sort of thing that a member might not want to hear > about, even if it is generally of interest to chapter membership.? > This might be, for instance, progress on a major chapter initiative. > > Anti-spam legislation treats these two cases very differently, and > therefore we have to have a mechanism to do so.? This is the reason > for the somewhat complicated set-up of profiles before sending email.? > As others have already noted on this list, once the profiles are set > up, they can be re-used.? But we recognize that this is an > unaccustomed part of the workflow. > > That is the reason we have tried to provide a number of different > resources for people who are having to operate this new workflow > element.? We have dedicated support staff that are available to help > you with this as you are developing your workflow.? Please continue to > rely on us to provide that support, so that every chapter can be > successful with this and also so that we can all comply with antispam > regulations and laws. > > Best regards, > > A > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The *Open Lunar Foundation * generates and invests in solutions that enable peaceful Lunar exploration. *Jacob Malthouse * will share Open Lunar?s planned projects for 2024 and potential alignments with IPNSIG?s vision for the expansion of the Internet into space. He is particularly interested in the evolutionary arc of Solar System Internet governance approaches presented in the latest IPNSIG AWG publication ?*Solar System Internet Architecture and Governance * ". *SPEAKER* *Jacob Malthouse* ? Executive Director, Open Lunar Foundation *HOST / MODERATOR* *Scott Burleigh* ? 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Best Regards, -- Matsuzaki Yoshinobu - ISOC Japan Chapter From drhipo at me.com Wed Apr 3 19:31:59 2024 From: drhipo at me.com (drhipo at me.com) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 20:31:59 -0600 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Japan Chapter Officers In-Reply-To: <20240404.112638.1024797785855170735.maz@iij.ad.jp> References: <20240404.112638.1024797785855170735.maz@iij.ad.jp> Message-ID: Congratulations to ISOC JP and the renewal of their board, which will certainly contribute to the Mission. Best Regards, Luis Martinez Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society On 3 Apr 2024 20:27 -0600, Matsuzaki Yoshinobu via Chapter-delegates , wrote: > Dear all, > > The Internet Society Japan Chapter (ISOC-JP) held its Annual General > Meeting on December 11, 2023 in Tokyo. There, we held an election of > the officers, and we are pleased to announce that we have decided to > form ISOC-JP officers for 2024 as follows. > > - Chair: Mariko KOBAYASHI > - Vice Chair: Tomohiro FUJISAKI > - Program Chair: Kumi MITANI * > - Secretary: Yoshinobu MATSUZAKI * > - Treasurer: Katsuyuki HASEBE * > > (officers denoted with * were elected in the AGM) > The positions of this year's ISOC-JP officers have been determined by > mutual vote. > > Thank you for your support, and we look forward to working together > with all of you! > > Best Regards, > -- > Matsuzaki Yoshinobu > - ISOC Japan Chapter > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From talant at gmail.com Wed Apr 3 23:27:15 2024 From: talant at gmail.com (Talant Sultanov) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 12:27:15 +0600 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Japan Chapter Officers In-Reply-To: References: <20240404.112638.1024797785855170735.maz@iij.ad.jp> Message-ID: Congratulations to the Officer of the ISOC Japan Chapter. Much success in your work! All the best wishes from the Kyrgyz Chapter! Talant Sultanov On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 8:32?AM 66499 via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Congratulations to ISOC JP and the renewal of their board, which will > certainly contribute to the Mission. > Best Regards, > Luis Martinez > > Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and > researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of > Trustees Internet Society > On 3 Apr 2024 20:27 -0600, Matsuzaki Yoshinobu via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, wrote: > > Dear all, > > The Internet Society Japan Chapter (ISOC-JP) held its Annual General > Meeting on December 11, 2023 in Tokyo. There, we held an election of > the officers, and we are pleased to announce that we have decided to > form ISOC-JP officers for 2024 as follows. > > - Chair: Mariko KOBAYASHI > - Vice Chair: Tomohiro FUJISAKI > - Program Chair: Kumi MITANI * > - Secretary: Yoshinobu MATSUZAKI * > - Treasurer: Katsuyuki HASEBE * > > (officers denoted with * were elected in the AGM) > The positions of this year's ISOC-JP officers have been determined by > mutual vote. > > Thank you for your support, and we look forward to working together > with all of you! > > Best Regards, > -- > Matsuzaki Yoshinobu > - ISOC Japan Chapter > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From talant at gmail.com Wed Apr 3 23:42:25 2024 From: talant at gmail.com (Talant Sultanov) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 12:42:25 +0600 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] New resource for issues, related to Internet Governance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Veni, Thank you very much for sharing the link to the blog post. It is really helpful to understand the WSIS+20 processes better. With best regards, Talant On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:29?AM Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > I published a blog post yesterday, which might be of interest for the > chapters, following the discussions around WSIS and the GDC, as well as > those, who are At-Large members. Please, share with your members. 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Le paysage africain des points d'?change Internet (IXP) s'est d?velopp? au cours de la derni?re d?cennie, avec plus de 40 IXP op?rant aujourd'hui sur le continent. Ces infrastructures cl?s ont contribu? ? fa?onner les communications Internet r?gionales, ? am?liorer la connectivit? et ? stimuler le d?veloppement num?rique dans toute l'Afrique. Ce webinaire explore l'?volution, l'importance et l'impact des IXP sur le paysage num?rique du continent africain. *PANEL* *Jean Francis Ahanda* - Directeur g?n?ral Datacenter services, ST DIGITAL *Ga?l Hernandez* - Directeur de la strat?gie ISP/Peering, Catchpoint *Nico Tshintu Bakajika* - Directeur des op?rations, ISPA-DRC *Ghislain Nkeramugaba* - Internet Development Expert, ISOC *Tomboye Ibrahim Mahamat* - Directrice des noms de domaine et des adresses ip, ADETIC Moderateur: *Willy Manga* - Deployment Operationalisation Engineer, AFRINIC *LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/afrinic2024-3 * *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/3VJjCMh * *TWITTER #IXP #AFRINIC @AFRINIC @jeanfrancis @elgaelo Nico Tshintu Bakajika @nk_ghislain Tomboye Ibrahim Mahamat @ongolaboy #IPeerIn Africa* *MASTODON #afrinic * *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ * (AI Captions) *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/afrinic2024-3 * - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Much success in > your work! > > All the best wishes from the Kyrgyz Chapter! > > Talant Sultanov > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 8:32?AM 66499 via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Congratulations to ISOC JP and the renewal of their board, which will >> certainly contribute to the Mission. >> Best Regards, >> Luis Martinez >> >> Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and >> researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of >> Trustees Internet Society >> On 3 Apr 2024 20:27 -0600, Matsuzaki Yoshinobu via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> The Internet Society Japan Chapter (ISOC-JP) held its Annual General >> Meeting on December 11, 2023 in Tokyo. There, we held an election of >> the officers, and we are pleased to announce that we have decided to >> form ISOC-JP officers for 2024 as follows. >> >> - Chair: Mariko KOBAYASHI >> - Vice Chair: Tomohiro FUJISAKI >> - Program Chair: Kumi MITANI * >> - Secretary: Yoshinobu MATSUZAKI * >> - Treasurer: Katsuyuki HASEBE * >> >> (officers denoted with * were elected in the AGM) >> The positions of this year's ISOC-JP officers have been determined by >> mutual vote. >> >> Thank you for your support, and we look forward to working together >> with all of you! >> >> Best Regards, >> -- >> Matsuzaki Yoshinobu >> - ISOC Japan Chapter >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -- Kunle Olorundare (MNSE, PRINCE2) +2348036551591 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flavio at inf.ufrgs.br Thu Apr 4 06:31:56 2024 From: flavio at inf.ufrgs.br (=?UTF-8?Q?Fl=C3=A1vio_Rech_Wagner?=) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 10:31:56 -0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Japan Chapter Officers In-Reply-To: <20240404.112638.1024797785855170735.maz@iij.ad.jp> References: <20240404.112638.1024797785855170735.maz@iij.ad.jp> Message-ID: Congratulations to the newly appointed officers of ISOC Japan! Best, Fl?vio R. Wagner ISOC Brazil > Dear all, > > The Internet Society Japan Chapter (ISOC-JP) held its Annual General > Meeting on December 11, 2023 in Tokyo. There, we held an election of > the officers, and we are pleased to announce that we have decided to > form ISOC-JP officers for 2024 as follows. > > - Chair: Mariko KOBAYASHI > - Vice Chair: Tomohiro FUJISAKI > - Program Chair: Kumi MITANI * > - Secretary: Yoshinobu MATSUZAKI * > - Treasurer: Katsuyuki HASEBE * > > (officers denoted with * were elected in the AGM) > The positions of this year's ISOC-JP officers have been determined by > mutual vote. > > Thank you for your support, and we look forward to working together > with all of you! > > Best Regards, -- Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul Instituto de Inform?tica Porto Alegre, Brasil Presidente da Internet Society Brasil flavio at inf.ufrgs.br, info at isoc.org.br https://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasil https://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasil https://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ From maud.ashongelliot at gmail.com Thu Apr 4 07:43:37 2024 From: maud.ashongelliot at gmail.com (maud.ashongelliot) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 14:43:37 +0000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Japan Chapter Officers In-Reply-To: <20240404.112638.1024797785855170735.maz@iij.ad.jp> References: <20240404.112638.1024797785855170735.maz@iij.ad.jp> Message-ID: Congrats ISOC Japan On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 02:27, Matsuzaki Yoshinobu via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear all, > > The Internet Society Japan Chapter (ISOC-JP) held its Annual General > Meeting on December 11, 2023 in Tokyo. There, we held an election of > the officers, and we are pleased to announce that we have decided to > form ISOC-JP officers for 2024 as follows. > > - Chair: Mariko KOBAYASHI > - Vice Chair: Tomohiro FUJISAKI > - Program Chair: Kumi MITANI * > - Secretary: Yoshinobu MATSUZAKI * > - Treasurer: Katsuyuki HASEBE * > > (officers denoted with * were elected in the AGM) > The positions of this year's ISOC-JP officers have been determined by > mutual vote. > > Thank you for your support, and we look forward to working together > with all of you! > > Best Regards, > -- > Matsuzaki Yoshinobu > - ISOC Japan Chapter > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -- Maud A. 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There, we held an election of >> the officers, and we are pleased to announce that we have decided to >> form ISOC-JP officers for 2024 as follows. >> >> - Chair: Mariko KOBAYASHI >> - Vice Chair: Tomohiro FUJISAKI >> - Program Chair: Kumi MITANI * >> - Secretary: Yoshinobu MATSUZAKI * >> - Treasurer: Katsuyuki HASEBE * >> >> (officers denoted with * were elected in the AGM) >> The positions of this year's ISOC-JP officers have been determined by >> mutual vote. >> >> Thank you for your support, and we look forward to working together >> with all of you! >> >> Best Regards, > > -- > Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner > > Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul > Instituto de Inform?tica > Porto Alegre, Brasil > > Presidente da Internet Society Brasil > flavio at inf.ufrgs.br, info at isoc.org.br > https://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasil > https://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasil > https://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ From sullivan at isoc.org Thu Apr 4 13:37:45 2024 From: sullivan at isoc.org (Andrew Sullivan) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 16:37:45 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Email and Fonteva (was Re: Re: Questions to Internet Society Board of Trustees from the UK England Chapter of the Internet Society) In-Reply-To: <635136c3-5053-4943-8ada-c4a70195d4f5@gih.com> References: <6b470682-e8ad-43bf-a12b-2d47c72646cc@gih.com> <635136c3-5053-4943-8ada-c4a70195d4f5@gih.com> Message-ID: <6gdi43xga6jjv6tyljbdsnxtoujm4keqmf75apouselxmqovqb@4gno4dugjtml> Hi Olivier, I don't think anyone has suggested (and especially I don't think I suggested) that the mail interface as it exists is ideal for these kinds of list management tasks. I was rather responding to the suggestion that this should work just like an end-user mail environment, and I was trying to explain why it doesn't and can't. I think there is no question that MailChimp is indeed among the best in the market for certain kinds of newsletters and so forth. But of course, Fonteva has a different purpose, and only _one_ of its jobs is to support this kind of mailing. I think we have reports from people, on this list, that while the set-up workflow is indeed somewhat cumbersome, it needs to be done once and then it works reliably. It is of course a pity that Fonteva is not the UX market leader for newsletter delivery, but it provides other features and benefits (like, for instance, all the other association management pieces that are an important part of what we needed) that are not available from MailChimp or other mail-delivery platforms. And, it bears mentioning again, this was a software choice we made _with the involvement of the community_, as Christine laid out here quite recently. We continue to refine the experience with Fonteva, and it remains valuable for you to document deficiencies (by opening tickets) when you see them. Andre Copelin has outlined the release process over the next little while, so you can expect to see continuous improvement, though whether the UX of this portion of Fonteva will ever be as slick as MailChimp I doubt. I hope this responds to your mail. Best regards, A On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:24:14AM +0200, Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote: >Dear Andrew, > >thank you for your follow-up relating to the ISOC FONTEVA emailing system. >I must admit I am baffled by your explanation. I understand that the >complexity of international regulations relating to bulk mailings is >increasingly complicated, but I cannot see the link between an >incredibly cumbersome, illogical and unfriendly way to send bulk >emails out from FONTEVA and spam legislation. > >For an example on how all of the above seems to be addressed easily >you just need to see a product like MailChimp to show how it *should* >be done. >See how simple this is: https://youtu.be/T7t2ihsGYak?si=r0FB5MLN2MGjYWo- > >This was the 2017 version. The current MailChimp is even easier to use >and better to make really excellent newsletters and mailings. On top >of this, its help section is really helpful and has lots and lots of >excellent templates. Frankly most of the features found in MailChimp >are found in other mailing systems that are equally as simple - for >example ConstantContact and others. And none of these have a problem >with GDPR, Spam, etc. > >I am still puzzled as to how the FONTEVA folks designed what they >designed, unless we are trying to use the tool for something it is not >meant to do. >Kindest regards, > >Olivier > > >On 02/04/2024 16:34, Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I think we have tried, more than once, to address the question >>below, but the way this was stated gave me a new idea about how to >>address it; so I hope this round will help to explain to people why >>something they think should be trivial is in fact not. >> >>On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 07:11:52PM +0300, Nazar Nicholas via >>Chapter-delegates wrote: >> >>>short of being ? user friendly ?. It was touted as robust AMS but having >>>used it I feel that when you are sending a simple email to member, >>>you have >>>got to first qualify as a techie. Sending email is supposed to be >>>a 1,2,3 >>>and there it goes! But for FONTEVA you have to hussle to send a simple >>>email. Why could they integrate in the Fonteva AMS a simple email >>>sending >>>platform like gmail type of thing? >> >>The challenge that I think many people are having is that they're >>imagining sending email to chapter members from the chapter (i.e. >>from the chapter's account, or from an officer's account, or >>whatever) is like sending an email from one person to another, or >>even to a mailing list.? But it isn't, and the reason has to do with >>spam control laws as well as anti-spam techniques that mail >>providers use. >> >>When you send mail _as an organization_, you fall under various >>spam-control regimes around the world.? All of them, it appears, >>have two basic classes of things.? One of them are strictly required >>communications that are a necessary part of being associated with >>the association in question.? So, for instance, when you sign up for >>membership in a chapter, there are certain emails that you are >>_intrinsically_ agreeing to get, and the only way not to get those >>is to give up being a member.? These mails, even if not wanted, are >>not "spam" because they are part of the function of being a member >>at all. >> >>Other mails are the sort of thing that a member might not want to >>hear about, even if it is generally of interest to chapter >>membership.? This might be, for instance, progress on a major >>chapter initiative. >> >>Anti-spam legislation treats these two cases very differently, and >>therefore we have to have a mechanism to do so.? This is the reason >>for the somewhat complicated set-up of profiles before sending >>email.? As others have already noted on this list, once the profiles >>are set up, they can be re-used.? But we recognize that this is an >>unaccustomed part of the workflow. >> >>That is the reason we have tried to provide a number of different >>resources for people who are having to operate this new workflow >>element.? We have dedicated support staff that are available to help >>you with this as you are developing your workflow.? Please continue >>to rely on us to provide that support, so that every chapter can be >>successful with this and also so that we can all comply with >>antispam regulations and laws. >> >>Best regards, >> >>A >> >_______________________________________________ >As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): >https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -- Andrew Sullivan, President & CEO, Internet Society e:sullivan at isoc.org m:+1 416 731 1261 Help protect the Internet for everyone: https://www.internetsociety.org/donate/ From lsyanseke at gmail.com Thu Apr 4 14:30:26 2024 From: lsyanseke at gmail.com (levy syanseke) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 23:30:26 +0200 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Email and Fonteva (was Re: Re: Questions to Internet Society Board of Trustees from the UK England Chapter of the Internet Society) In-Reply-To: <6gdi43xga6jjv6tyljbdsnxtoujm4keqmf75apouselxmqovqb@4gno4dugjtml> References: <6b470682-e8ad-43bf-a12b-2d47c72646cc@gih.com> <635136c3-5053-4943-8ada-c4a70195d4f5@gih.com> <6gdi43xga6jjv6tyljbdsnxtoujm4keqmf75apouselxmqovqb@4gno4dugjtml> Message-ID: Hi Andrew and Chapter delegates, I do appreciate the need for Fonteva (though yet to see it). It does have features that are helpful I believe. However, I believe the concerns being raised are not about the best features related to membership management. The main issues include among others; easy day-to-day communication features that are mentioned yet inaccessible. For instance, its not easy to send emails to select members or specific chapter leaders and so on. Chatter works, but its general. That I agree with Nazar and many others. Secondly, uploading documents or adding year chapter activities isnt easy as compared to the previous AMS. If an option to upload an excel (csv or ics file) was there to update activities, it would be better. Thirdly, the logging into the chapter platform (dashboard) while a leader is another task involving search as though you are applying for membership and there are still limitations. I believe the leadership dashboard should have that integration and switch easily and seamless. I must appreciate the good appearance and neatness of Fonteva. However, use case scenario is quite hard even for some that are techie. I highly recommend a series of live webinars to show Chapter delegates how to use the new AMS. The prerecorded videos seem to have different features than what we see. Thus the reason for increased concerns. I submit. Regards Levy Syanseke Ramah Designs - Founder Internet Society Zambia Chapter - Founding President +260 978 210 494 *God is a Designer* On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, 22:37 Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates, < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Hi Olivier, > > I don't think anyone has suggested (and especially I don't think I > suggested) that the mail interface as it exists is ideal for these kinds of > list management tasks. I was rather responding to the suggestion that this > should work just like an end-user mail environment, and I was trying to > explain why it doesn't and can't. > > I think there is no question that MailChimp is indeed among the best in > the market for certain kinds of newsletters and so forth. But of course, > Fonteva has a different purpose, and only _one_ of its jobs is to support > this kind of mailing. I think we have reports from people, on this list, > that while the set-up workflow is indeed somewhat cumbersome, it needs to > be done once and then it works reliably. It is of course a pity that > Fonteva is not the UX market leader for newsletter delivery, but it > provides other features and benefits (like, for instance, all the other > association management pieces that are an important part of what we needed) > that are not available from MailChimp or other mail-delivery platforms. > > And, it bears mentioning again, this was a software choice we made _with > the involvement of the community_, as Christine laid out here quite > recently. > > We continue to refine the experience with Fonteva, and it remains valuable > for you to document deficiencies (by opening tickets) when you see them. > Andre Copelin has outlined the release process over the next little while, > so you can expect to see continuous improvement, though whether the UX of > this portion of Fonteva will ever be as slick as MailChimp I doubt. > > I hope this responds to your mail. > > Best regards, > > A > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:24:14AM +0200, Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond via > Chapter-delegates wrote: > >Dear Andrew, > > > >thank you for your follow-up relating to the ISOC FONTEVA emailing system. > >I must admit I am baffled by your explanation. I understand that the > >complexity of international regulations relating to bulk mailings is > >increasingly complicated, but I cannot see the link between an > >incredibly cumbersome, illogical and unfriendly way to send bulk > >emails out from FONTEVA and spam legislation. > > > >For an example on how all of the above seems to be addressed easily > >you just need to see a product like MailChimp to show how it *should* > >be done. > >See how simple this is: https://youtu.be/T7t2ihsGYak?si=r0FB5MLN2MGjYWo- > > > >This was the 2017 version. The current MailChimp is even easier to use > >and better to make really excellent newsletters and mailings. On top > >of this, its help section is really helpful and has lots and lots of > >excellent templates. Frankly most of the features found in MailChimp > >are found in other mailing systems that are equally as simple - for > >example ConstantContact and others. And none of these have a problem > >with GDPR, Spam, etc. > > > >I am still puzzled as to how the FONTEVA folks designed what they > >designed, unless we are trying to use the tool for something it is not > >meant to do. > >Kindest regards, > > > >Olivier > > > > > >On 02/04/2024 16:34, Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>I think we have tried, more than once, to address the question > >>below, but the way this was stated gave me a new idea about how to > >>address it; so I hope this round will help to explain to people why > >>something they think should be trivial is in fact not. > >> > >>On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 07:11:52PM +0300, Nazar Nicholas via > >>Chapter-delegates wrote: > >> > >>>short of being ? user friendly ?. It was touted as robust AMS but having > >>>used it I feel that when you are sending a simple email to member, > >>>you have > >>>got to first qualify as a techie. Sending email is supposed to be > >>>a 1,2,3 > >>>and there it goes! But for FONTEVA you have to hussle to send a simple > >>>email. Why could they integrate in the Fonteva AMS a simple email > >>>sending > >>>platform like gmail type of thing? > >> > >>The challenge that I think many people are having is that they're > >>imagining sending email to chapter members from the chapter (i.e. > >>from the chapter's account, or from an officer's account, or > >>whatever) is like sending an email from one person to another, or > >>even to a mailing list. But it isn't, and the reason has to do with > >>spam control laws as well as anti-spam techniques that mail > >>providers use. > >> > >>When you send mail _as an organization_, you fall under various > >>spam-control regimes around the world. All of them, it appears, > >>have two basic classes of things. One of them are strictly required > >>communications that are a necessary part of being associated with > >>the association in question. So, for instance, when you sign up for > >>membership in a chapter, there are certain emails that you are > >>_intrinsically_ agreeing to get, and the only way not to get those > >>is to give up being a member. These mails, even if not wanted, are > >>not "spam" because they are part of the function of being a member > >>at all. > >> > >>Other mails are the sort of thing that a member might not want to > >>hear about, even if it is generally of interest to chapter > >>membership. This might be, for instance, progress on a major > >>chapter initiative. > >> > >>Anti-spam legislation treats these two cases very differently, and > >>therefore we have to have a mechanism to do so. This is the reason > >>for the somewhat complicated set-up of profiles before sending > >>email. As others have already noted on this list, once the profiles > >>are set up, they can be re-used. But we recognize that this is an > >>unaccustomed part of the workflow. > >> > >>That is the reason we have tried to provide a number of different > >>resources for people who are having to operate this new workflow > >>element. We have dedicated support staff that are available to help > >>you with this as you are developing your workflow. Please continue > >>to rely on us to provide that support, so that every chapter can be > >>successful with this and also so that we can all comply with > >>antispam regulations and laws. > >> > >>Best regards, > >> > >>A > >> > > >_______________________________________________ > >As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > >to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > >https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > >View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > > -- > Andrew Sullivan, President & CEO, Internet Society > e:sullivan at isoc.org m:+1 416 731 1261 > Help protect the Internet for everyone: > https://www.internetsociety.org/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sullivan at isoc.org Thu Apr 4 14:52:26 2024 From: sullivan at isoc.org (Andrew Sullivan) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 21:52:26 +0000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Email and Fonteva (was Re: Re: Questions to Internet Society Board of Trustees from the UK England Chapter of the Internet Society) Message-ID: ?Hi, Thanks for your observations. What you have listed below are, as nearly as I can tell, feature requests. Please, _please_, as several of the staff here have requested, send your feature requests to the mail alias set up specifically to track these requests and put them in the backlog. They?re not going to get prioritized if you send them to this mailing list because there isn?t a way the team can both do the work on Fonteva and also follow this list. Please send such enhancement requests to AMSHelp at isoc.org. If you really want to help, send one ticket per feature request, so that we don?t burn staff time pulling out the individual features into separate tickets. Thanks, A ? Andrew Sullivan Please excuse my clumbsy thums On Apr 4, 2024, at 17:30, levy syanseke wrote: ? Hi Andrew and Chapter delegates, I do appreciate the need for Fonteva (though yet to see it). It does have features that are helpful I believe. However, I believe the concerns being raised are not about the best features related to membership management. The main issues include among others; easy day-to-day communication features that are mentioned yet inaccessible. For instance, its not easy to send emails to select members or specific chapter leaders and so on. Chatter works, but its general. That I agree with Nazar and many others. Secondly, uploading documents or adding year chapter activities isnt easy as compared to the previous AMS. If an option to upload an excel (csv or ics file) was there to update activities, it would be better. Thirdly, the logging into the chapter platform (dashboard) while a leader is another task involving search as though you are applying for membership and there are still limitations. I believe the leadership dashboard should have that integration and switch easily and seamless. I must appreciate the good appearance and neatness of Fonteva. However, use case scenario is quite hard even for some that are techie. I highly recommend a series of live webinars to show Chapter delegates how to use the new AMS. The prerecorded videos seem to have different features than what we see. Thus the reason for increased concerns. I submit. Regards Levy Syanseke Ramah Designs - Founder Internet Society Zambia Chapter - Founding President +260 978 210 494 *God is a Designer* On Thu, 4 Apr 2024, 22:37 Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates, > wrote: Hi Olivier, I don't think anyone has suggested (and especially I don't think I suggested) that the mail interface as it exists is ideal for these kinds of list management tasks. I was rather responding to the suggestion that this should work just like an end-user mail environment, and I was trying to explain why it doesn't and can't. I think there is no question that MailChimp is indeed among the best in the market for certain kinds of newsletters and so forth. But of course, Fonteva has a different purpose, and only _one_ of its jobs is to support this kind of mailing. I think we have reports from people, on this list, that while the set-up workflow is indeed somewhat cumbersome, it needs to be done once and then it works reliably. It is of course a pity that Fonteva is not the UX market leader for newsletter delivery, but it provides other features and benefits (like, for instance, all the other association management pieces that are an important part of what we needed) that are not available from MailChimp or other mail-delivery platforms. And, it bears mentioning again, this was a software choice we made _with the involvement of the community_, as Christine laid out here quite recently. We continue to refine the experience with Fonteva, and it remains valuable for you to document deficiencies (by opening tickets) when you see them. Andre Copelin has outlined the release process over the next little while, so you can expect to see continuous improvement, though whether the UX of this portion of Fonteva will ever be as slick as MailChimp I doubt. I hope this responds to your mail. Best regards, A On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:24:14AM +0200, Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote: >Dear Andrew, > >thank you for your follow-up relating to the ISOC FONTEVA emailing system. >I must admit I am baffled by your explanation. I understand that the >complexity of international regulations relating to bulk mailings is >increasingly complicated, but I cannot see the link between an >incredibly cumbersome, illogical and unfriendly way to send bulk >emails out from FONTEVA and spam legislation. > >For an example on how all of the above seems to be addressed easily >you just need to see a product like MailChimp to show how it *should* >be done. >See how simple this is: https://youtu.be/T7t2ihsGYak?si=r0FB5MLN2MGjYWo- > >This was the 2017 version. The current MailChimp is even easier to use >and better to make really excellent newsletters and mailings. On top >of this, its help section is really helpful and has lots and lots of >excellent templates. Frankly most of the features found in MailChimp >are found in other mailing systems that are equally as simple - for >example ConstantContact and others. And none of these have a problem >with GDPR, Spam, etc. > >I am still puzzled as to how the FONTEVA folks designed what they >designed, unless we are trying to use the tool for something it is not >meant to do. >Kindest regards, > >Olivier > > >On 02/04/2024 16:34, Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I think we have tried, more than once, to address the question >>below, but the way this was stated gave me a new idea about how to >>address it; so I hope this round will help to explain to people why >>something they think should be trivial is in fact not. >> >>On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 07:11:52PM +0300, Nazar Nicholas via >>Chapter-delegates wrote: >> >>>short of being ? user friendly ?. It was touted as robust AMS but having >>>used it I feel that when you are sending a simple email to member, >>>you have >>>got to first qualify as a techie. Sending email is supposed to be >>>a 1,2,3 >>>and there it goes! But for FONTEVA you have to hussle to send a simple >>>email. Why could they integrate in the Fonteva AMS a simple email >>>sending >>>platform like gmail type of thing? >> >>The challenge that I think many people are having is that they're >>imagining sending email to chapter members from the chapter (i.e. >>from the chapter's account, or from an officer's account, or >>whatever) is like sending an email from one person to another, or >>even to a mailing list. But it isn't, and the reason has to do with >>spam control laws as well as anti-spam techniques that mail >>providers use. >> >>When you send mail _as an organization_, you fall under various >>spam-control regimes around the world. All of them, it appears, >>have two basic classes of things. One of them are strictly required >>communications that are a necessary part of being associated with >>the association in question. So, for instance, when you sign up for >>membership in a chapter, there are certain emails that you are >>_intrinsically_ agreeing to get, and the only way not to get those >>is to give up being a member. These mails, even if not wanted, are >>not "spam" because they are part of the function of being a member >>at all. >> >>Other mails are the sort of thing that a member might not want to >>hear about, even if it is generally of interest to chapter >>membership. This might be, for instance, progress on a major >>chapter initiative. >> >>Anti-spam legislation treats these two cases very differently, and >>therefore we have to have a mechanism to do so. This is the reason >>for the somewhat complicated set-up of profiles before sending >>email. As others have already noted on this list, once the profiles >>are set up, they can be re-used. But we recognize that this is an >>unaccustomed part of the workflow. >> >>That is the reason we have tried to provide a number of different >>resources for people who are having to operate this new workflow >>element. We have dedicated support staff that are available to help >>you with this as you are developing your workflow. Please continue >>to rely on us to provide that support, so that every chapter can be >>successful with this and also so that we can all comply with >>antispam regulations and laws. >> >>Best regards, >> >>A >> >_______________________________________________ >As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): >https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -- Andrew Sullivan, President & CEO, Internet Society e:sullivan at isoc.org m:+1 416 731 1261 Help protect the Internet for everyone: https://www.internetsociety.org/donate/ _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There, we held an election of > the officers, and we are pleased to announce that we have decided to > form ISOC-JP officers for 2024 as follows. > > - Chair: Mariko KOBAYASHI > - Vice Chair: Tomohiro FUJISAKI > - Program Chair: Kumi MITANI * > - Secretary: Yoshinobu MATSUZAKI * > - Treasurer: Katsuyuki HASEBE * > > (officers denoted with * were elected in the AGM) > The positions of this year's ISOC-JP officers have been determined by > mutual vote. > > Thank you for your support, and we look forward to working together > with all of you! > > Best Regards, > -- > Matsuzaki Yoshinobu > - ISOC Japan Chapter > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This event will be in Finnish, with the exception of the final session, which will be in English *PROGRAMME* *9:15 Opening remarks* *Aino-Kaisa Pekonen*, Chair of the Future Committee, Member of Parliament, Left Alliance *Kirsi Karlamaa*, Technology and Strategy Director, Traficom *9:30 Panel I: The EU's artificial intelligence regulation - already out of date when completed?* *Petri Myllym?ki*, Professor, Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning, University of Helsinki *Aura Salla*, Member of the Future Committee, Member of Parliament, Kokooomus *Anna-Maija Ohlsson*, Development Manager, Save the Children *Tapani Tarvainen*, Executive Director, Electronic Frontier Finland Moderator: *Tommi Karttaavi*, digital director, It?-Uusimaa welfare region Commentary: *Joonas Mikkil?*, Teknologiateollisuus *10:45 Panel II: Cyber security and new technologies* *Petri Puhakainen*, VTT, cyber security research developer *Noora Hammar*, Founder and Chapter President, Women4Cyber Finland *Mikko Hypp?nen*, research director, WithSecure Moderator: *Stefan Lee*, Deputy Cybersecurity Director, LVM *12:45 Global Digital Compact and WSIS+20* *David Souter*, Managing Director , ICT Development Associates *Aki Enkenberg*, Senior Adviser: Innovation and Digital Cooperation, Ministry for Foreign Affairs of Finland *13:45 Closing remarks* *Timo Harakka*, Vice President of the Future Committee, Member of Parliament, SDP *LIVESTREAM http://livestream.com/internetsociety/fiforum2024 * *TWITTER #fiforum @isocfinland @internetSociety* *SIMULCASTS* *https://verkkolahetys.eduskunta.fi/fi/seminaarit/finnishinternetforum_03042024 * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ *(AI Captions) *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/fiforum2024 * Comment - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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La presidenta del cap?tulo venezolano de la Internet Society ISOC (2022-2024), *Alejandra Stolk *, describi? c?mo funciona Internet: como un modelo de M?ltiples partes aceptables (Foro para la Gobernanza de Internet-IGF); sus pilares, que sea abierta segura y accesible. 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URL: From shulman at isoc.org Mon Apr 8 06:21:47 2024 From: shulman at isoc.org (Kyle Shulman) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 13:21:47 +0000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Application to start an Internet Society Chapter US Los Angeles and Southern California : Peer-Review Message-ID: Dear Chapter Leaders, We have recently received the application below to start an Internet Society Chapter in Los Angeles and Southern California. I invite you to review it and share your comments by 22 April 2024. If you know of any active Internet Society members interested in joining this initiative, please let me know via shulman at isoc.org I would be happy to connect them to the volunteers who submitted this application. Thank you in advance for your feedback. Best Regards, Kyle Chapter Application Los Angeles and Southern California A. Proposed name of the Chapter The Los Angeles and Southern California Chapter of the Internet Society (ISOC LA-SOCAL) B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve. The ISOC LA-SOCAL will generally serve individuals who live or work in the geographic area of Los Angeles and the surrounding area of Southern California from San Luis Obispo County and eastward to the southern border of California, with the understanding that all ISOC Chapters are not confined to geographic areas. C. Purpose and scope of Chapter The chapter will work towards: 1. Supporting awareness by building initiatives and outreach efforts concerning internet connectivity. 2. Facilitating discussion of issues that affect internet users in the community. 3. Furthering the community's participation in areas important to the evolution and further development of the Internet. 1. Ensuring the community voice is included in Internet policy development. D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of the Chapter It is important that, besides drive and vision, there are also some concrete plans for what the chapter will achieve in its first year of operation. If you are unsure as to how to develop a plan, please visit our resource page. In the short term, the chapter will aim to achieve the following objectives: 1. Establish a presence in the communities and build awareness through partnering with existing organizations and promoting membership in ISOC Los Angeles Chapter. 2. Policy development Global Connected Internet and Unrestricted Reachability 3. Internet Access for Homeless Communities 4. Digital Literacy and Education 5. Establish a website and social media presence to promote ISOC LA Chapter events and local initiatives that also support the ISOC and local communities. E. Founding members of the Chapter Please list complete contact information and affiliations for all persons who will be working together to create the Chapter. A minimum of 25 Internet Society members is required for a charter. Please supply their names. Membership Tracking document - Current have 41 members signed up to ISOC and evenly distributed across industry, academia and other parts of civil society. F. List of supporters and partner organizations Please list complete contact information for any organizations or groups who will be supporting or partnering with the potential Chapter. Be sure to indicate an individual or an individual?s role for each supporter and their contact details. We strongly encourage Chapters to take a ?multi-stakeholder? approach to forming a Chapter. Potential partners: Google Venice (and Jigsaw), County of Los Angeles, Los Angeles Jewish Federation, Discord, UCLA, AI LA, Left Field Live, City of Los Angeles, LA Rams. Organization Status Sector America on Tech Potential Civil Society All Tech is Human Potential Civil Society LA Tech 4 Good Potential Civil Society Los Angeles Jewish Federation Potential Civil Society AI LA Potential Civil Society City of Los Angeles Potential Government County of Los Angeles Potential Government LA Rams/LA Dodgers Potential Sports - Community (via Eradicate Hate) Disney Potential Film Industry Discord Potential Tech Google Potential Tech Left Field Live Potential Tech AirTable Potential Tech TikTok Potential Tech G. Membership We will establish the following communication channels: 1. A website to communicate events, recruit board members, share key information, and raise up the voices of our membership and the ISOC community-at-large. 2. A monthly newsletter to all members. 3. A Discord Server to communicate with members and document events and a LinkedIn group to recruit new members. Founding Members Name Josh Steinberg Jakob Nielsen Liz Oh Kenneth Wyrick Bri Riggio Tom Thorley Joseph Benton Robert Gonzalez Jonathan King Jessica Dickinson Goodman Lianna Galstyan Carson Mobley Diana Ascher Daniel Zaltsman Karen Borchgrevink Garrett Allen Alex DeLarge Darren O'Connor Dominic Cutulli Lonnie Elijah Nathan Benavides Sean Clift Victor Salazar Yesenia Cisneros H. List of requirements We are in the process of establishing a new 501(c)3 to house this chapter, paying the $600 cost using a grant from the Internet Society Foundation (San Francisco and Bay Area Chapter). I. Additional information Our 25 founding members include past ISOC chapter board members from other chapters who have relocated to LA, so we are honored to start off this process with a lot of depth in the organization. ________________________________ Kyle Shulman Senior Manager, Community Engagement Shulman at isoc.org ______________ Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. 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I've been aware of efforts to get something going there since at least twenty years back, and recognize that, ultimately, it was the persistent efforts of the SFBay Area Chapter in engaging their southern neighbours, that finally pushed this into fruition! Joly On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 9:22?AM Kyle Shulman via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders, > > > > We have recently received the application below to start an Internet > Society Chapter in *Los Angeles and Southern California*. I invite you to *review it > and share your comments by 22 April 2024*. > > > > If you know of any active Internet Society members interested in joining > this initiative, please let me know via shulman at isoc.org I would be happy > to connect them to the volunteers who submitted this application. > > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Kyle > > > > > > *Chapter Application Los Angeles and Southern California * > > *A. Proposed name of the Chapter * > > The Los Angeles and Southern California Chapter of the Internet Society > (ISOC LA-SOCAL) > > *B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve. * > > The ISOC LA-SOCAL will generally serve individuals who live or work in the > geographic area of Los Angeles and the surrounding area of Southern > California from San Luis Obispo County and eastward to the southern border > of California, with the understanding that all ISOC Chapters are not > confined to geographic areas. > > *C. Purpose and scope of Chapter * > > The chapter will work towards: > > 1. Supporting awareness by building initiatives and outreach efforts > concerning internet connectivity. > 2. Facilitating discussion of issues that affect internet users in the > community. > 3. Furthering the community's participation in areas important to the > evolution and further > > development of the Internet. > > 4. Ensuring the community voice is included in Internet policy > development. > > *D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of the Chapter * > > *It is important that, besides drive and vision, there are also some > concrete plans for what the chapter will achieve in its first year of > operation. If you are unsure as to how to develop a plan, please **visit > our resource page**. * > > In the short term, the chapter will aim to achieve the following > objectives: > > 1. Establish a presence in the communities and build awareness through > partnering with existing organizations and promoting membership in ISOC Los > Angeles Chapter. > 2. Policy development Global Connected Internet and Unrestricted > Reachability > 3. Internet Access for Homeless Communities > 4. Digital Literacy and Education > 5. Establish a website and social media presence to promote ISOC LA > Chapter events and > > local initiatives that also support the ISOC and local communities. > > *E. Founding members of the Chapter * > > *Please list complete contact information and affiliations for all persons > who will be working together to create the Chapter. A minimum of 25 > Internet Society members is required for a charter. Please supply their > names. * > > Membership Tracking document - Current have 41 members signed up to ISOC > and evenly distributed across industry, academia and other parts of civil > society. > > *F. List of supporters and partner organizations * > > *Please list complete contact information for any organizations or groups > who will be supporting or partnering with the potential Chapter. Be sure to > indicate an individual or an individual?s role for each supporter and their > contact details. We strongly encourage Chapters to take a > ?multi-stakeholder? approach to forming a Chapter. * > > Potential partners: Google Venice (and Jigsaw), County of Los Angeles, Los > Angeles Jewish Federation, Discord, UCLA, AI LA, Left Field Live, City of > Los Angeles, LA Rams. > > [image: page2image61765232] > > *Organization * > > *Status * > > *Sector * > > America on Tech > > Potential > > Civil Society > > All Tech is Human > > Potential > > Civil Society > > LA Tech 4 Good > > Potential > > Civil Society > > Los Angeles Jewish Federation > > Potential > > Civil Society > > AI LA > > Potential > > Civil Society > > City of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > County of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > LA Rams/LA Dodgers > > Potential > > Sports - Community (via Eradicate Hate) > > Disney > > Potential > > Film Industry > > Discord > > Potential > > Tech > > Google > > Potential > > Tech > > Left Field Live > > Potential > > Tech > > AirTable > > Potential > > Tech > > TikTok > > Potential > > Tech > > *G. Membership * > > We will establish the following communication channels: > > 1. A website to communicate events, recruit board members, share key > information, and raise up the voices of our membership and the ISOC > community-at-large. > 2. A monthly newsletter to all members. > 3. A Discord Server to communicate with members and document events > and a LinkedIn > > group to recruit new members. > > Founding Members > > [image: page3image61731424] > > *Name * > > Josh Steinberg > > Jakob Nielsen > > Liz Oh > > Kenneth Wyrick > > Bri Riggio > > Tom Thorley > > Joseph Benton > > Robert Gonzalez > > Jonathan King > > Jessica Dickinson Goodman > > Lianna Galstyan > > Carson Mobley > > Diana Ascher > > Daniel Zaltsman > > Karen Borchgrevink > > Garrett Allen > > Alex DeLarge > > Darren O'Connor > > Dominic Cutulli > > Lonnie Elijah > > Nathan Benavides > > Sean Clift > > Victor Salazar > > Yesenia Cisneros > > > > *H. List of requirements * > > We are in the process of establishing a new 501(c)3 to house this chapter, > paying the $600 cost using a grant from the Internet Society Foundation > (San Francisco and Bay Area Chapter). > > *I. Additional information * > > Our 25 founding members include past ISOC chapter board members from other > chapters who have relocated to LA, so we are honored to start off this > process with a lot of depth in the organization. > > ________________________________ > > > > Kyle Shulman > > Senior Manager, > > Community Engagement > > Shulman at isoc.org > > ______________ > > Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. > > Read about work we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report > ?? > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 245 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I invite you to *review it > and share your comments by 22 April 2024*. > > > > If you know of any active Internet Society members interested in joining > this initiative, please let me know via shulman at isoc.org I would be happy > to connect them to the volunteers who submitted this application. > > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Kyle > > > > > > *Chapter Application Los Angeles and Southern California * > > *A. Proposed name of the Chapter * > > The Los Angeles and Southern California Chapter of the Internet Society > (ISOC LA-SOCAL) > > *B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve. * > > The ISOC LA-SOCAL will generally serve individuals who live or work in the > geographic area of Los Angeles and the surrounding area of Southern > California from San Luis Obispo County and eastward to the southern border > of California, with the understanding that all ISOC Chapters are not > confined to geographic areas. > > *C. Purpose and scope of Chapter * > > The chapter will work towards: > > 1. Supporting awareness by building initiatives and outreach efforts > concerning internet connectivity. > 2. Facilitating discussion of issues that affect internet users in the > community. > 3. Furthering the community's participation in areas important to the > evolution and further > > development of the Internet. > > 4. Ensuring the community voice is included in Internet policy > development. > > *D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of the Chapter * > > *It is important that, besides drive and vision, there are also some > concrete plans for what the chapter will achieve in its first year of > operation. If you are unsure as to how to develop a plan, please **visit > our resource page**. * > > In the short term, the chapter will aim to achieve the following > objectives: > > 1. Establish a presence in the communities and build awareness through > partnering with existing organizations and promoting membership in ISOC Los > Angeles Chapter. > 2. Policy development Global Connected Internet and Unrestricted > Reachability > 3. Internet Access for Homeless Communities > 4. Digital Literacy and Education > 5. Establish a website and social media presence to promote ISOC LA > Chapter events and > > local initiatives that also support the ISOC and local communities. > > *E. Founding members of the Chapter * > > *Please list complete contact information and affiliations for all persons > who will be working together to create the Chapter. A minimum of 25 > Internet Society members is required for a charter. Please supply their > names. * > > Membership Tracking document - Current have 41 members signed up to ISOC > and evenly distributed across industry, academia and other parts of civil > society. > > *F. List of supporters and partner organizations * > > *Please list complete contact information for any organizations or groups > who will be supporting or partnering with the potential Chapter. Be sure to > indicate an individual or an individual?s role for each supporter and their > contact details. We strongly encourage Chapters to take a > ?multi-stakeholder? approach to forming a Chapter. * > > Potential partners: Google Venice (and Jigsaw), County of Los Angeles, Los > Angeles Jewish Federation, Discord, UCLA, AI LA, Left Field Live, City of > Los Angeles, LA Rams. > > [image: page2image61765232] > > *Organization * > > *Status * > > *Sector * > > America on Tech > > Potential > > Civil Society > > All Tech is Human > > Potential > > Civil Society > > LA Tech 4 Good > > Potential > > Civil Society > > Los Angeles Jewish Federation > > Potential > > Civil Society > > AI LA > > Potential > > Civil Society > > City of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > County of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > LA Rams/LA Dodgers > > Potential > > Sports - Community (via Eradicate Hate) > > Disney > > Potential > > Film Industry > > Discord > > Potential > > Tech > > Google > > Potential > > Tech > > Left Field Live > > Potential > > Tech > > AirTable > > Potential > > Tech > > TikTok > > Potential > > Tech > > *G. Membership * > > We will establish the following communication channels: > > 1. A website to communicate events, recruit board members, share key > information, and raise up the voices of our membership and the ISOC > community-at-large. > 2. A monthly newsletter to all members. > 3. A Discord Server to communicate with members and document events > and a LinkedIn > > group to recruit new members. > > Founding Members > > [image: page3image61731424] > > *Name * > > Josh Steinberg > > Jakob Nielsen > > Liz Oh > > Kenneth Wyrick > > Bri Riggio > > Tom Thorley > > Joseph Benton > > Robert Gonzalez > > Jonathan King > > Jessica Dickinson Goodman > > Lianna Galstyan > > Carson Mobley > > Diana Ascher > > Daniel Zaltsman > > Karen Borchgrevink > > Garrett Allen > > Alex DeLarge > > Darren O'Connor > > Dominic Cutulli > > Lonnie Elijah > > Nathan Benavides > > Sean Clift > > Victor Salazar > > Yesenia Cisneros > > > > *H. List of requirements * > > We are in the process of establishing a new 501(c)3 to house this chapter, > paying the $600 cost using a grant from the Internet Society Foundation > (San Francisco and Bay Area Chapter). > > *I. Additional information * > > Our 25 founding members include past ISOC chapter board members from other > chapters who have relocated to LA, so we are honored to start off this > process with a lot of depth in the organization. > > ________________________________ > > > > Kyle Shulman > > Senior Manager, > > Community Engagement > > Shulman at isoc.org > > ______________ > > Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. > > Read about work we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report > ?? > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 245 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting Trustees , Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this email). *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author of the board's decision by 22 April. Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees elections. Best regards, Victor Kuarsingh 2024 Elections Committee Chair Internet Society -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 at 19:19, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend my > appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of Trustees > elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to > serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. 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URL: From mamattah.raymond at gmail.com Mon Apr 8 10:33:28 2024 From: mamattah.raymond at gmail.com (Raymond Mamattah) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 17:33:28 +0000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations to the winners, especially madam Maureen. Well deserved. Raymond Mamattah [image: linkedin] [image: facebook] [image: twitter] Accra, Ghana On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 5:19?PM Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend my > appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of Trustees > elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to > serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after > consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author > of the board's decision by 22 April. > > > > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees > elections. > > > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With 94 voting chapters and 44 votes going to Maureen Hilyard, that would mean 50 votes did not go to Maureen Hilyard, so does that mean that 7 votes or more were abstentions or invalid ballots? Usually vote results are given more clearly (and transparently) as: Candidate A: Nr. Votes - % Candidate B: Nr. Votes - % Abstentions: Nr. Votes - % N/A: Nr. Votes - % (if possible) Kindest regards, Olivier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From langdonorr at gmail.com Mon Apr 8 11:04:23 2024 From: langdonorr at gmail.com (Cheryl Langdon-Orr) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 04:04:23 +1000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] [APAC-Discuss] Fwd: 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent results; The electorate turn-out, particularly for the chapter seat selection, is most heartening... Congratulations to all involved. Cheryl Langdon-Orr about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 03:54, Charles Mok (gmail) via APAC-Discuss < apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > Congratulations Maureen and it's great to have you and looking forward to > working with you again!! > > And, a massive thank you to Luis Martinez for your leadership and guidance > on the board of trustees. I have learned so much from you, and I am sure > your contribution and dedication to serving the ISOC community will > continue! > > Charles > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 10:39?AM Ali AlMeshal via APAC-Discuss < > apac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > >> Well deserved Muareen all the best. >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Ali AlMeshal >> >> ICANN - APRALO Vice Chair >> >> Bahrain Internet Chapter - Vice Chair >> >> Professional Public speaker in ICT and Digital Business >> >> Payment Industry Expert Advisor >> >> Mobile: +973 39440025 >> >> Skype: alialmeshal >> >> email: dralialmeshal at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> >> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 at 8:19?PM >> Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results >> To: >> >> >> Dear Chapter Leaders: >> >> >> >> On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend >> my appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of >> Trustees elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals >> offered to serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election >> results were certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. >> >> >> >> *CHAPTERS* >> >> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. >> Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >> 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> >> >> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible >> chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting >> Trustees >> , >> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >> >> >> >> In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees >> >> state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible >> to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting >> privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this >> email). >> >> >> >> *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* >> >> In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for >> one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen >> Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> >> >> Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 >> eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. >> >> >> >> Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking >> all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections >> Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. >> >> >> >> Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April >> by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address >> election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an >> explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after >> consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees >> and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author >> of the board's decision by 22 April. >> >> >> >> Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees >> elections. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Victor Kuarsingh >> >> 2024 Elections Committee Chair >> >> Internet Society >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> _______________________________________________ >> APAC-Discuss mailing list >> APAC-Discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/apac-discuss >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.apralo.org >> _______________________________________________ >> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your >> personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance >> with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and >> the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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You can > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saegesser at isoc.org Mon Apr 8 12:29:25 2024 From: saegesser at isoc.org (Christine Saegesser) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 19:29:25 +0000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Invitation: Chapter Communications Training on 23 April (was: Request for a method to send email to Chapter members.) References: <2E0DC366-CC33-47C9-A56B-44FBE985D30F@isoc.org> Message-ID: <11EFA769-EF1D-4C55-BE2C-C4FF86A7B450@isoc.org> Dear Colleagues, As a follow-up to the discussions below and as requested by some of you, we are organising a 60-min Chapter Communications Training Session for chapter leaders. To cover time zones, we?re offering the same session at two different times on 23 April 2024: Session 1: 23 April, 13:00 UTC * Registration Link: https://isoc.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZcpf-Ghpj4sE9ZKMpV_1ufjnzK30U58QMAV Session 2:23 April, 18:00 UTC * Registration Link: https://isoc.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZwpd-GvqDwiGdAqPH0tr8IC8v7w737yJsFM The training will cover: * Chatter Groups: How to communicate and engage with with your chapter?s members (2-way communications) * Post messages * Add attachments * Reply to messages * Configure personal notification settings * Reply via email * Post via email * Sending 1-way email communications to our chapter?s members * Create campaign * Create message * Add recipients * Send message We encourage you to go through my last message (from 28 March) on this topic in the thread below to get prepared for the training. We look forward to seeing many of you on the training calls. They will be recorded for those unable to join. Best, Christine Begin forwarded message: From: Christine Saegesser via Chapter-delegates > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Request for a method to send email to Chapter members. Date: 28 March 2024 at 09:40:19 CET To: ISOC Chapter Delegates > Cc: Joly MacFie >, AMS Support > Reply-To: Christine Saegesser > Dear all, Let me build on earlier messages, trainings and pointers on this list by highlighting that each chapter and special interest group (SIG) also has a Chatter Group available and ready to use for easy communications. These groups exist independently of the more complex 1-way email communications functionality. Chatter Groups: These groups offer a simple way to share messages, engage and have conversations with all chapter members, with additional features such as a polling functionality. This 2-way communications functionality is available to all chapter & SIG leaders and members. Here?s how you get there: * Log into the Community Portal * Go to your profile (?My Profile? page from the top right corner menu or via your profile picture) * Click on ?My Groups? in the lefthand menu: you?ll see the list of chapters and/or special interest groups you?re a member of * Click the green ?Access Group? button It?s that easy to get into your group. From there, you can: * Post messages to all chapter/SIG members directly from the platform * Find the ?Group Email? address under ?Group Details? on the righthand side: you can send messages to this email address from your mail client to reach all members of the group. We recommend saving this address in your mail client?s contacts so you don?t have to go looking for it on the platform each time. * ?Manage your notification" settings by clicking on the corresponding button just below the group logo. If you wish to receive posts in real time, then please make sure this is set to ?Every Post" If you prefer communicating from your mail client rather than via the Community Portal (AMS), this is not a problem. You can respond to chatter group posts directly from your mail client. A 10-min training video around Chatter Groups is available on the Community Training Portal here: https://communitytraining.internetsociety.org/training/chatter-groups/ 1-way email communications In addition to the Chatter Groups, there is a much more powerful (and because of that also more complicated) way of sending 1-way email communications. This functionality has been made available to 2 chapter leaders per chapter (chapters need to give them the role of Communications Officers via the Chapter Leader Portal because specific licenses are needed for this). This functionality was developed based on: * requirements gathered during the selection process, where the participating community representatives asked for more powerful functionality, such as email analytics (delivery, open and bounce rates), which are email marketing / distributed marketing tool functionalities that are not available in simpler emailing systems. This functionality will become available to chapter leaders over the next few months as part of one of the upcoming releases * Chapters asked for the ability to send transactional messages to ALL their members (even if they opted out of promotional emails). This can only be accomplished through a system that allows you to build journeys for both promotional and transactional purposes. This is now possible. * Chapters needed automated email notification options based on member action * Because of the volume of emails sent, ISOC needs a system where its IP reputation can be managed to prevent ISOC or chapter emails from being added to spam lists A 12-min training video around 1-way email communications is available on the Community Training Portal here: https://communitytraining.internetsociety.org/training/send-email-as-chapter-leader/ Alternatively, Joly and Sarah (see in the thread below) have shared written steps to get your emails out. As always, our regional Community Engagement Managers are available to hop on a call with you if you need assistance or would like someone to walk you through process. You can reach them via chapter-support at isoc.org For any bugs or errors, please continue sending those to AMSHelp at isoc.org Best, Christine Christine Saegesser Baethge, Sr. Director Chapters and Special Interest Groups saegesser at isoc.org [cid:030694D5-CB4B-4B1E-A45E-B9E370E8CE12] Discover what we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report ?? Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. On 28 Mar 2024, at 06:14, Amrita Choudhury via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Thank you for this Sarah. I managed to send out a mail to the chapter. However, as a user it seems the system has become more confusing, with additional steps and time consuming (off course I do see more options has been added). Previously using one email ID we could send bulk message to the whole Chapter. Now to send a simple male you have to create a campaign, key in the message, link to the who Chapter data set, etc. Additionally the campaign money option which is mandatory is quite irrelevant for many of us. Also the currency denominator reflects only few currency therefore its redundant to most nations. I hope the team while improvising really looks at simplifying things than complicating it for volunteers from across the world. Regards, Amrita On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:27?AM Sarah Lake > wrote: Hi Amrita Responding here as well for all: The 'Send Email as Chapter Leader' guide an video can be found here: https://communitytraining.internetsociety.org/training/send-email-as-chapter-leader/ Reposting @Joly MacFie's message (thank you!) below as well: 1. Create the Campaign In the Leader Portal, Go to ?Chapter Emails? Select ?Email Campaign? Click ?New? Input a ?Campaign Name? ? mandatory field Input any other information pertaining to the Campaign in the applicable field(s) Select the ?Active? button Hit ?Save? This creates the campaign. 2. Link the Campaign to a Journey Click on Chapter Emails Select ?Email Campaign? Select the Campaign you created Under Campaign Messages select ?Connect Campaign? In the Journey field, start typing your Chapter name (i.e. Washington) and this will bring up your journey options. Select the journey with the ?TR? designation at the end to send a transactional email. NOTE: The journey with no ?TR? designation would be a promotional email that goes to chapter members who have not opted out of communications. Click on ?Save? -- this will take you to a screen where you create the message you want to send. 3. Add Recipients (For sending a message to all members) Go to ?Reports? from the Leader Portal, Click on ?Active Chapter Members? This will bring up all Chapter Members Click the check box beside the Chapter Name Click on the dropdown button next to Export (at the top of the screen) Click on ?Add to Campaign? Select the Campaign to which the email is being sent Click on ?Submit? 4. Create the Message Click on Chapter Emails Select ?Email Campaign? Select the Campaign you created. Click on the preview button (eye) to the right of the subject line. Select a Subject Hover over the Subject Line box, then select ?Click to Edit? to select one of the template subject lines. Hover over the Rich Text Box, then select ?Click to Edit? to enter the text of your message. Once done, Click ?Save & Close? 5. Send the Message Take you back to the Email Campaign screen. Under Campaign Messages, select ?Bulk Send? It will then show you a preview of your message as well as to whom it will be sent. If you?re ready to go, click on ?Send? Hope this helps. Best Regards Sarah Sarah Lake (she/her), Community Engagement Manager, Asia-Pacific lake at isoc.org | Australia, UTC/GMT+10 [https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.freshdesk.com/data/helpdesk/attachments/production/60003658383/original/7lLtdG5uyz62tLMy7C1sG4AZ0YbGncdFng.png?1585130171] Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. Read about work we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report ________________________________ From: Chapter-delegates > on behalf of Amrita Choudhury via Chapter-delegates > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 15:28 To: Joly MacFie >; AMS Support > Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Request for a method to send email to Chapter members. I agree the present system seems to be very confusing. Have been trying to send a mail to the chapter, but not succeeded yet. Could anyone share where the tutorials to send emails are? Regards Amrita On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 2:26?AM Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Hi Levy, Chatter is not bad, somewhat akin to whatsapp with email integration, but, by default, members are set to email digest mode, can even reset their option to 'limited', and I suspect members who are set to 'opt-out' may never see it at all. So, it is not a reliable way to reach your chapter membership. Also, content options are limited. OTOH, an email campaign, with the journey set to TD, will reach every member of your Chapter. Once an email campaign is set up, it's easy to repost to the same campaign without going through all the set up. What isn't clear to me, as yet, is, whether this will reach people who have subsequently joined. Possibly not. Joly On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:16?AM levy syanseke via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Hi Joly, That's what I was referring to. Regards Levy Syanseke Ramah Designs - Founder Internet Society Zambia Chapter - Founding President +260 978 210 494 *God is a Designer* On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, 20:08 Joly MacFie, > wrote: Hi Levy, Are you referring to 'Chatter' ? Joly On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 12:42?PM levy syanseke via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Hi Mohan, I hope this email finds you well. I do understand your frustration and have been through it before. While waiting for the demo video, we learnt we can use an alternative channel within the new AMS. If you have time or any other leader who would like help with communicating using the same feature to communicate to your chapter members. I am available on Tuesday. Do advise, anytime before or after 9:50 UTC - 13:00 UTC. Regards Levy Syanseke Media Studies Tutor | Ramah Designs - Founder Internet Society Zambia Chapter - Founding president Youth IGF Movement - Community Coordinator [https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/53/tools/email-signature-generator/icons/phone-icon.png] +260 978 210 494 [https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/53/tools/email-signature-generator/icons/email-icon.png] lsyanseke at gmail.com God Loves You! On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 4:24?AM K Mohan Raidu via Chapter-delegates > wrote: That traning link itself erroneous. I asked for a one-on-one and step-by-step demo of the emailing. This attitude of the AMS is very irresponsible. There is no method to send emails to Chapter members from the portal. And traning on a non existing feature is futile. Will the demo be arranged or should I esclate it the highest level? K Mohan Raidu President ISOC Hyderabad. +919985033566 On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:32:01 PM GMT+5:30, AMS Helpdesk > wrote: Hi K, ?The correct training link was sent back on 7 March 2024. As we did not receive a reply, the ticket was closed. Please let us now if you are still having trouble accessing this link and training. [https://attachment.freshdesk.com/inline/attachment?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpZCI6NjAxMTAwMzg3NDcsImRvbWFpbiI6Imlzb2NoZWxwLmZyZXNoZGVzay5jb20iLCJhY2NvdW50X2lkIjoxMzE0ODYxfQ.uupAJssu5iI1-ges_5RGAjxV4n2UiIHvfqaW2uOJiX8] On Fri, 22 Mar at 9:17 AM , K Mohan Raidu > wrote: How do close a ticket without attending or resolvinb the issue? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 10:49:58 PM GMT+5:30, AMS Helpdesk > wrote: Dear K Mohan Raidu, Your ticket - Request for a method to send email to Chapter members. - has been closed. We hope that the ticket was resolved to your satisfaction. If you feel that the ticket should not be closed or if the ticket has not been resolved, please reply to this email. Sincerely, Internet Society Support Team https://isochelp.freshdesk.com/helpdesk/tickets/13941 13941:1314861 _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- - _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- - _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to > serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. 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URL: From victor at jvknet.com Mon Apr 8 12:56:15 2024 From: victor at jvknet.com (Victor Kuarsingh) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 15:56:15 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: <8a2104ae-9f01-409a-b079-f67e774218cc@gih.com> References: <8a2104ae-9f01-409a-b079-f67e774218cc@gih.com> Message-ID: Olivier, The language in the Procedures for Trustees, Publication of the Result, says: *"Publication of the Result* *Only the vote counts of the elected candidate Trustee and the total vote count are to be published, while all candidates and the Board of Trustees will be provided with the full list of candidates and the number of votes that each received."* Basically, only the vote count of those elected and the total vote count get released broadly (full details are distributed to the candidates and board). I can confirm that there were abstentions. regards, Victor K On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:00?PM Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond wrote: > Dear Victor, > > congratulations to Maureen Hilyard on her appointment! > However, please see below: > > On 08/04/2024 18:19, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > Thank you for publishing the results, but I'm afraid they don't really > make much sense. > > With 94 voting chapters and 44 votes going to Maureen Hilyard, that would > mean 50 votes did not go to Maureen Hilyard, so does that mean that 7 votes > or more were abstentions or invalid ballots? > > Usually vote results are given more clearly (and transparently) as: > > Candidate A: Nr. Votes - % > Candidate B: Nr. Votes - % > Abstentions: Nr. Votes - % > N/A: Nr. Votes - % (if possible) > > Kindest regards, > > Olivier > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kindest regards, Olivier On 08/04/2024 20:56, Victor Kuarsingh wrote: > Olivier, > > The language in the Procedures for Trustees, Publication of the > Result, says: > > > *"Publication of the Result* > > *Only the vote counts of the?elected candidate Trustee and the total > vote count are to be published, while all candidates and the?Board of > Trustees will be provided with the?full list of candidates and the > number of votes that each received."* > > Basically, only the vote count of those elected and the total vote > count get released broadly (full details are distributed to the > candidates and board).? I can confirm that there were abstentions. > > regards, > > > Victor K > > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:00?PM Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond > wrote: > > Dear Victor, > > congratulations to Maureen Hilyard on her appointment! > However, please see below: > > On 08/04/2024 18:19, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates wrote: >> >> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one >> (1) seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has >> been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 >> eligible chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with theProcedures for >> Selecting Trustees >> , >> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >> > > Thank you for publishing the results, but I'm afraid they don't > really make much sense. > > With 94 voting chapters and 44 votes going to Maureen Hilyard, > that would mean 50 votes did not go to Maureen Hilyard, so does > that mean that 7 votes or more were abstentions or invalid ballots? > > Usually vote results are given more clearly (and transparently) as: > > Candidate A: Nr. Votes - % > Candidate B: Nr. Votes - % > Abstentions: Nr. Votes - % > N/A: Nr. Votes - % (if possible) > > Kindest regards, > > Olivier > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From veni at veni.com Mon Apr 8 14:38:31 2024 From: veni at veni.com (Veni Markovski) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 17:38:31 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations to all elected trustees! Hopefully they will be able to change the organization towards better!!! Best regards, Veni Markovski http://www.veni.com pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com The opinions expressed above are those of the author, not of any organizations, associated with or related to the author in any given way. On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 13:19 Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend my > appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of Trustees > elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to > serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after > consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author > of the board's decision by 22 April. > > > > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees > elections. > > > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sarai.ftevita at gmail.com Mon Apr 8 14:39:35 2024 From: sarai.ftevita at gmail.com (Sarai F Tevita) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 10:39:35 +1300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations Maureen! All the best SFT On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 6:19?AM Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend my > appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of Trustees > elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to > serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after > consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author > of the board's decision by 22 April. > > > > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees > elections. > > > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From koshalnandita at gmail.com Mon Apr 8 14:50:46 2024 From: koshalnandita at gmail.com (Nandita Koshal) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 17:50:46 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations, Maureen and Kathleen, on your successful selection! Wishing you all the best ahead. Warm regards, Nandita Koshal ISOC India Mumbai On Mon, Apr 8, 2024, 1:19?p.m. Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend my > appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of Trustees > elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to > serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after > consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author > of the board's decision by 22 April. > > > > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees > elections. > > > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nnicholaski at gmail.com Mon Apr 8 15:33:01 2024 From: nnicholaski at gmail.com (Nazar Nicholas) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 01:33:01 +0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Application to start an Internet Society Chapter US Los Angeles and Southern California : Peer-Review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Kyle, Congratulations to ISOC SOCAL initiators. This is great to have a new member in our network. The only place in their proposal that they need to work on a little bit is the (G) Membership. Regards *Nazar(ius) Nicholas Kirama* *President & Chief Executive Officer* *Internet Society Tanzania Chapter (ISOC-Tz)* *"The Internet i**s for Everyone, when it is available, affordable, and meaningful for everyone "* *..................................................................* *National Coordinator * *Tanzania Internet Governance Forum (TzIGF)* *......................................* *ICT Consultant & Trainer * *AI Expert(Ethics)* *IEEE Member#96674695* *Certified Business Coach (ICF) * E:nnicholaski at gmail.com *Professional Affiliations: **||IEEE: Membership#96674695**||ICANN-UASG|| Web Foundation|| IGF|| **Entrepreneurs Wealth Academy|| Tanzania Federation of Green Revolution|| AFRINIC Community Advocate* ______________________________________________ *Clubs/Associations Affiliation: Founder Member of Roots&Shoots-**The Dr. Jane Goodall's Global Youth Program, **member @PMA,IMA WSPCA, WCST, **The Internet Society**,**International Coaching Federation.* ______________________________________ *Joshua1:8 @**Haggai 2:8 **@Deuteronomy 8:17-18* On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 at 16:22, Kyle Shulman via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders, > > > > We have recently received the application below to start an Internet > Society Chapter in *Los Angeles and Southern California*. I invite you to *review it > and share your comments by 22 April 2024*. > > > > If you know of any active Internet Society members interested in joining > this initiative, please let me know via shulman at isoc.org I would be happy > to connect them to the volunteers who submitted this application. > > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Kyle > > > > > > *Chapter Application Los Angeles and Southern California * > > *A. Proposed name of the Chapter * > > The Los Angeles and Southern California Chapter of the Internet Society > (ISOC LA-SOCAL) > > *B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve. * > > The ISOC LA-SOCAL will generally serve individuals who live or work in the > geographic area of Los Angeles and the surrounding area of Southern > California from San Luis Obispo County and eastward to the southern border > of California, with the understanding that all ISOC Chapters are not > confined to geographic areas. > > *C. Purpose and scope of Chapter * > > The chapter will work towards: > > 1. Supporting awareness by building initiatives and outreach efforts > concerning internet connectivity. > 2. Facilitating discussion of issues that affect internet users in the > community. > 3. Furthering the community's participation in areas important to the > evolution and further > > development of the Internet. > > 4. Ensuring the community voice is included in Internet policy > development. > > *D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of the Chapter * > > *It is important that, besides drive and vision, there are also some > concrete plans for what the chapter will achieve in its first year of > operation. If you are unsure as to how to develop a plan, please **visit > our resource page**. * > > In the short term, the chapter will aim to achieve the following > objectives: > > 1. Establish a presence in the communities and build awareness through > partnering with existing organizations and promoting membership in ISOC Los > Angeles Chapter. > 2. Policy development Global Connected Internet and Unrestricted > Reachability > 3. Internet Access for Homeless Communities > 4. Digital Literacy and Education > 5. Establish a website and social media presence to promote ISOC LA > Chapter events and > > local initiatives that also support the ISOC and local communities. > > *E. Founding members of the Chapter * > > *Please list complete contact information and affiliations for all persons > who will be working together to create the Chapter. A minimum of 25 > Internet Society members is required for a charter. Please supply their > names. * > > Membership Tracking document - Current have 41 members signed up to ISOC > and evenly distributed across industry, academia and other parts of civil > society. > > *F. List of supporters and partner organizations * > > *Please list complete contact information for any organizations or groups > who will be supporting or partnering with the potential Chapter. Be sure to > indicate an individual or an individual?s role for each supporter and their > contact details. We strongly encourage Chapters to take a > ?multi-stakeholder? approach to forming a Chapter. * > > Potential partners: Google Venice (and Jigsaw), County of Los Angeles, Los > Angeles Jewish Federation, Discord, UCLA, AI LA, Left Field Live, City of > Los Angeles, LA Rams. > > [image: page2image61765232] > > *Organization * > > *Status * > > *Sector * > > America on Tech > > Potential > > Civil Society > > All Tech is Human > > Potential > > Civil Society > > LA Tech 4 Good > > Potential > > Civil Society > > Los Angeles Jewish Federation > > Potential > > Civil Society > > AI LA > > Potential > > Civil Society > > City of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > County of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > LA Rams/LA Dodgers > > Potential > > Sports - Community (via Eradicate Hate) > > Disney > > Potential > > Film Industry > > Discord > > Potential > > Tech > > Google > > Potential > > Tech > > Left Field Live > > Potential > > Tech > > AirTable > > Potential > > Tech > > TikTok > > Potential > > Tech > > *G. Membership * > > We will establish the following communication channels: > > 1. A website to communicate events, recruit board members, share key > information, and raise up the voices of our membership and the ISOC > community-at-large. > 2. A monthly newsletter to all members. > 3. A Discord Server to communicate with members and document events > and a LinkedIn > > group to recruit new members. > > Founding Members > > [image: page3image61731424] > > *Name * > > Josh Steinberg > > Jakob Nielsen > > Liz Oh > > Kenneth Wyrick > > Bri Riggio > > Tom Thorley > > Joseph Benton > > Robert Gonzalez > > Jonathan King > > Jessica Dickinson Goodman > > Lianna Galstyan > > Carson Mobley > > Diana Ascher > > Daniel Zaltsman > > Karen Borchgrevink > > Garrett Allen > > Alex DeLarge > > Darren O'Connor > > Dominic Cutulli > > Lonnie Elijah > > Nathan Benavides > > Sean Clift > > Victor Salazar > > Yesenia Cisneros > > > > *H. List of requirements * > > We are in the process of establishing a new 501(c)3 to house this chapter, > paying the $600 cost using a grant from the Internet Society Foundation > (San Francisco and Bay Area Chapter). > > *I. Additional information * > > Our 25 founding members include past ISOC chapter board members from other > chapters who have relocated to LA, so we are honored to start off this > process with a lot of depth in the organization. > > ________________________________ > > > > Kyle Shulman > > Senior Manager, > > Community Engagement > > Shulman at isoc.org > > ______________ > > Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. > > Read about work we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report > ?? > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 245 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I invite you to *review it > and share your comments by 22 April 2024*. > > > > If you know of any active Internet Society members interested in joining > this initiative, please let me know via shulman at isoc.org I would be happy > to connect them to the volunteers who submitted this application. > > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Kyle > > > > > > *Chapter Application Los Angeles and Southern California * > > *A. Proposed name of the Chapter * > > The Los Angeles and Southern California Chapter of the Internet Society > (ISOC LA-SOCAL) > > *B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve. * > > The ISOC LA-SOCAL will generally serve individuals who live or work in the > geographic area of Los Angeles and the surrounding area of Southern > California from San Luis Obispo County and eastward to the southern border > of California, with the understanding that all ISOC Chapters are not > confined to geographic areas. > > *C. Purpose and scope of Chapter * > > The chapter will work towards: > > 1. Supporting awareness by building initiatives and outreach efforts > concerning internet connectivity. > 2. Facilitating discussion of issues that affect internet users in the > community. > 3. Furthering the community's participation in areas important to the > evolution and further > > development of the Internet. > > 4. Ensuring the community voice is included in Internet policy > development. > > *D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of the Chapter * > > *It is important that, besides drive and vision, there are also some > concrete plans for what the chapter will achieve in its first year of > operation. If you are unsure as to how to develop a plan, please **visit > our resource page**. * > > In the short term, the chapter will aim to achieve the following > objectives: > > 1. Establish a presence in the communities and build awareness through > partnering with existing organizations and promoting membership in ISOC Los > Angeles Chapter. > 2. Policy development Global Connected Internet and Unrestricted > Reachability > 3. Internet Access for Homeless Communities > 4. Digital Literacy and Education > 5. Establish a website and social media presence to promote ISOC LA > Chapter events and > > local initiatives that also support the ISOC and local communities. > > *E. Founding members of the Chapter * > > *Please list complete contact information and affiliations for all persons > who will be working together to create the Chapter. A minimum of 25 > Internet Society members is required for a charter. Please supply their > names. * > > Membership Tracking document - Current have 41 members signed up to ISOC > and evenly distributed across industry, academia and other parts of civil > society. > > *F. List of supporters and partner organizations * > > *Please list complete contact information for any organizations or groups > who will be supporting or partnering with the potential Chapter. Be sure to > indicate an individual or an individual?s role for each supporter and their > contact details. We strongly encourage Chapters to take a > ?multi-stakeholder? approach to forming a Chapter. * > > Potential partners: Google Venice (and Jigsaw), County of Los Angeles, Los > Angeles Jewish Federation, Discord, UCLA, AI LA, Left Field Live, City of > Los Angeles, LA Rams. > > [image: page2image61765232] > > *Organization * > > *Status * > > *Sector * > > America on Tech > > Potential > > Civil Society > > All Tech is Human > > Potential > > Civil Society > > LA Tech 4 Good > > Potential > > Civil Society > > Los Angeles Jewish Federation > > Potential > > Civil Society > > AI LA > > Potential > > Civil Society > > City of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > County of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > LA Rams/LA Dodgers > > Potential > > Sports - Community (via Eradicate Hate) > > Disney > > Potential > > Film Industry > > Discord > > Potential > > Tech > > Google > > Potential > > Tech > > Left Field Live > > Potential > > Tech > > AirTable > > Potential > > Tech > > TikTok > > Potential > > Tech > > *G. Membership * > > We will establish the following communication channels: > > 1. A website to communicate events, recruit board members, share key > information, and raise up the voices of our membership and the ISOC > community-at-large. > 2. A monthly newsletter to all members. > 3. A Discord Server to communicate with members and document events > and a LinkedIn > > group to recruit new members. > > Founding Members > > [image: page3image61731424] > > *Name * > > Josh Steinberg > > Jakob Nielsen > > Liz Oh > > Kenneth Wyrick > > Bri Riggio > > Tom Thorley > > Joseph Benton > > Robert Gonzalez > > Jonathan King > > Jessica Dickinson Goodman > > Lianna Galstyan > > Carson Mobley > > Diana Ascher > > Daniel Zaltsman > > Karen Borchgrevink > > Garrett Allen > > Alex DeLarge > > Darren O'Connor > > Dominic Cutulli > > Lonnie Elijah > > Nathan Benavides > > Sean Clift > > Victor Salazar > > Yesenia Cisneros > > > > *H. List of requirements * > > We are in the process of establishing a new 501(c)3 to house this chapter, > paying the $600 cost using a grant from the Internet Society Foundation > (San Francisco and Bay Area Chapter). > > *I. Additional information * > > Our 25 founding members include past ISOC chapter board members from other > chapters who have relocated to LA, so we are honored to start off this > process with a lot of depth in the organization. > > ________________________________ > > > > Kyle Shulman > > Senior Manager, > > Community Engagement > > Shulman at isoc.org > > ______________ > > Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. > > Read about work we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report > ?? > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 245 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after > consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author > of the board's decision by 22 April. > > > > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees > elections. > > > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. 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Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. 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Voting closed on Friday and the election >> results were certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. >> >> >> >> *CHAPTERS* >> >> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. >> Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >> 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> >> >> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible >> chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting >> Trustees >> , >> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >> >> >> >> In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees >> >> state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible >> to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting >> privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this >> email). >> >> >> >> *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* >> >> In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for >> one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen >> Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> >> >> Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 >> eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. >> >> >> >> Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking >> all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections >> Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. >> >> >> >> Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April >> by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address >> election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an >> explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after >> consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees >> and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author >> of the board's decision by 22 April. >> >> >> >> Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees >> elections. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Victor Kuarsingh >> >> 2024 Elections Committee Chair >> >> Internet Society >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com Mon Apr 8 22:31:23 2024 From: yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com (=?Windows-1252?Q?Yrj=F6_L=E4nsipuro?=) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 05:31:23 +0000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Maureen, Congratulations! Best, Yrj? From: Chapter-delegates on behalf of Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates Date: Monday, 8. April 2024 at 20.20 To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results Dear Chapter Leaders: On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend my appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of Trustees elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. CHAPTERS In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting Trustees, Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this email). ORGANIZATION MEMBERS In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author of the board's decision by 22 April. Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees elections. Best regards, Victor Kuarsingh 2024 Elections Committee Chair Internet Society -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g.astbrink at gsa.com.au Mon Apr 8 22:42:12 2024 From: g.astbrink at gsa.com.au (Gunela Astbrink) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 15:42:12 +1000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Warm congratulations to Maureen and Kathleen! From the Chapter community perspective, it is a real pleasure to know that Maureen will be a BoT member! Gunela Astbrink Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates wrote on 9/4/2024 03:19 : > Dear Chapter Leaders:____ > > __ __ > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend > my appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of > Trustees elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals > offered to serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election > results were certified today, in accordance with the elections > timetable.____ > > __ __ > > *CHAPTERS____* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) > seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected > to a 3-year term as a trustee.____ > > __ __ > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with theProcedures for Selecting > Trustees > , Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes.____ > > __ __ > > In addition, theProcedures for Selecting Trustees > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this email).____ > > __ __ > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS____* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee.____ > > __ __ > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the > 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted.____ > > __ __ > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process.____ > > __ __ > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April > by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the > addresselection-challenge at isoc.org . > Any such challenges must include an explanation of the reasons for the > challenge. The President, after consultation with the chairs of the > Nominations and Elections Committees and the members of the Board of > Trustees, shall advise the challenge author of the board's decision by > 22 April.____ > > __ __ > > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees > elections.____ > > __ __ > > Best regards,____ > > Victor Kuarsingh____ > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair____ > > Internet Society > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ From ronald.petty at gmail.com Mon Apr 8 22:44:51 2024 From: ronald.petty at gmail.com (Ronald Petty) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2024 22:44:51 -0700 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Application to start an Internet Society Chapter US Los Angeles and Southern California : Peer-Review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Team, I want to second everyone's positive words for the ISOC LA-SOCAL. The ISOC SF Bay Area chapter will happily share the mission with our in-state partner. As Joly stated and Tom Thorley reminded me; the contrast of both the SoCal and NorCal economies will provide many interesting challenges and opportunities for all of us! Ron Petty ISOC SF Bay Area On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 6:22?AM Kyle Shulman via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders, > > > > We have recently received the application below to start an Internet > Society Chapter in *Los Angeles and Southern California*. I invite you to *review it > and share your comments by 22 April 2024*. > > > > If you know of any active Internet Society members interested in joining > this initiative, please let me know via shulman at isoc.org I would be happy > to connect them to the volunteers who submitted this application. > > > > Thank you in advance for your feedback. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Kyle > > > > > > *Chapter Application Los Angeles and Southern California * > > *A. Proposed name of the Chapter * > > The Los Angeles and Southern California Chapter of the Internet Society > (ISOC LA-SOCAL) > > *B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve. * > > The ISOC LA-SOCAL will generally serve individuals who live or work in the > geographic area of Los Angeles and the surrounding area of Southern > California from San Luis Obispo County and eastward to the southern border > of California, with the understanding that all ISOC Chapters are not > confined to geographic areas. > > *C. Purpose and scope of Chapter * > > The chapter will work towards: > > 1. Supporting awareness by building initiatives and outreach efforts > concerning internet connectivity. > 2. Facilitating discussion of issues that affect internet users in the > community. > 3. Furthering the community's participation in areas important to the > evolution and further > > development of the Internet. > > 4. Ensuring the community voice is included in Internet policy > development. > > *D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of the Chapter * > > *It is important that, besides drive and vision, there are also some > concrete plans for what the chapter will achieve in its first year of > operation. If you are unsure as to how to develop a plan, please **visit > our resource page**. * > > In the short term, the chapter will aim to achieve the following > objectives: > > 1. Establish a presence in the communities and build awareness through > partnering with existing organizations and promoting membership in ISOC Los > Angeles Chapter. > 2. Policy development Global Connected Internet and Unrestricted > Reachability > 3. Internet Access for Homeless Communities > 4. Digital Literacy and Education > 5. Establish a website and social media presence to promote ISOC LA > Chapter events and > > local initiatives that also support the ISOC and local communities. > > *E. Founding members of the Chapter * > > *Please list complete contact information and affiliations for all persons > who will be working together to create the Chapter. A minimum of 25 > Internet Society members is required for a charter. Please supply their > names. * > > Membership Tracking document - Current have 41 members signed up to ISOC > and evenly distributed across industry, academia and other parts of civil > society. > > *F. List of supporters and partner organizations * > > *Please list complete contact information for any organizations or groups > who will be supporting or partnering with the potential Chapter. Be sure to > indicate an individual or an individual?s role for each supporter and their > contact details. We strongly encourage Chapters to take a > ?multi-stakeholder? approach to forming a Chapter. * > > Potential partners: Google Venice (and Jigsaw), County of Los Angeles, Los > Angeles Jewish Federation, Discord, UCLA, AI LA, Left Field Live, City of > Los Angeles, LA Rams. > > [image: page2image61765232] > > *Organization * > > *Status * > > *Sector * > > America on Tech > > Potential > > Civil Society > > All Tech is Human > > Potential > > Civil Society > > LA Tech 4 Good > > Potential > > Civil Society > > Los Angeles Jewish Federation > > Potential > > Civil Society > > AI LA > > Potential > > Civil Society > > City of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > County of Los Angeles > > Potential > > Government > > LA Rams/LA Dodgers > > Potential > > Sports - Community (via Eradicate Hate) > > Disney > > Potential > > Film Industry > > Discord > > Potential > > Tech > > Google > > Potential > > Tech > > Left Field Live > > Potential > > Tech > > AirTable > > Potential > > Tech > > TikTok > > Potential > > Tech > > *G. Membership * > > We will establish the following communication channels: > > 1. A website to communicate events, recruit board members, share key > information, and raise up the voices of our membership and the ISOC > community-at-large. > 2. A monthly newsletter to all members. > 3. A Discord Server to communicate with members and document events > and a LinkedIn > > group to recruit new members. > > Founding Members > > [image: page3image61731424] > > *Name * > > Josh Steinberg > > Jakob Nielsen > > Liz Oh > > Kenneth Wyrick > > Bri Riggio > > Tom Thorley > > Joseph Benton > > Robert Gonzalez > > Jonathan King > > Jessica Dickinson Goodman > > Lianna Galstyan > > Carson Mobley > > Diana Ascher > > Daniel Zaltsman > > Karen Borchgrevink > > Garrett Allen > > Alex DeLarge > > Darren O'Connor > > Dominic Cutulli > > Lonnie Elijah > > Nathan Benavides > > Sean Clift > > Victor Salazar > > Yesenia Cisneros > > > > *H. List of requirements * > > We are in the process of establishing a new 501(c)3 to house this chapter, > paying the $600 cost using a grant from the Internet Society Foundation > (San Francisco and Bay Area Chapter). > > *I. Additional information * > > Our 25 founding members include past ISOC chapter board members from other > chapters who have relocated to LA, so we are honored to start off this > process with a lot of depth in the organization. > > ________________________________ > > > > Kyle Shulman > > Senior Manager, > > Community Engagement > > Shulman at isoc.org > > ______________ > > Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. > > Read about work we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report > ?? > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 245 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > ? > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the?Procedures for Selecting Trustees, Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > ? > In addition, the?Procedures for Selecting Trustees?state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this email). > ? > ORGANIZATION MEMBERS > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > ? > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > ? > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > ? > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address?election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author of the board's decision by 22 April. > ? > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees elections. > ? > Best regards, > Victor Kuarsingh > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > Internet Society -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CHAPTERS In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting Trustees, Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this email). ORGANIZATION MEMBERS In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author of the board's decision by 22 April. Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees elections. Best regards, Victor Kuarsingh 2024 Elections Committee Chair Internet Society _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.basele at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 01:26:33 2024 From: s.basele at gmail.com (Basele Stephen) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 11:26:33 +0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations to Maureen Hilyard and Kathleen Moriarty, All the best in your new roles! On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 10:27?AM Igor Mkrtumyan via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Congratulations to Maureen Hilyard and Kathleen Moriarty! > > > > With best wishes, > > Igor Mkrtumyan > > Armenia Chapter > > > > > > *From: *Chapter-delegates on > behalf of Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> > *Reply-To: *Victor Kuarsingh > *Date: *Monday, April 8, 2024 at 9:19 PM > *To: * > *Subject: *[Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections > Results > > > > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend my > appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of Trustees > elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to > serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after > consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author > of the board's decision by 22 April. > > > > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees > elections. > > > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > > _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society > Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is > regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login View the Internet > Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -- Thank you, ---------------- Kind Regards Basele Stephen Founder/CEO +254 701 463863 .................................................................................................. 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I already expressed by concern in relation to the strange publication of results and I guess there must be some obscure historical reasons why it was designed this way, but the other thing that got me to have difficulty staying in my seat was the "Challenges" section: / Any challenge must be addressed to the President of the Society with a recital of the reasons for the challenge, and must be received no later than 7 days following the end of the election. The President, after consultation with the Chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the author of the challenge of the Board?s decision, which shall be final, within 7 days following the end of the challenge period./ Well that's a pretty terrible idea. In organizations with elected board members, it is *not typical* for the *President and CEO* to directly resolve election issues. Let?s explore why: 1. *Roles and Responsibilities*: * The *President and CEO* typically focus on strategic leadership, organizational management, and overall decision-making. * *Election issues* fall within the purview of the *board* and its governance processes. 2. *Board Independence*: * *Board members* are elected by stakeholders to represent their interests. * To maintain independence and avoid conflicts of interest, the *CEO* should not directly intervene in election matters. 3. *Board Governance*: * *Election issues* are handled by the *Nominations Committee.* * This committee oversees board nominations, elections, and related processes so why is it not also in charge of *challenges*?. 4. *Transparency and Fairness*: * *Election processes* must be transparent, fair, and free from undue influence. * Involvement of the *CEO* could raise concerns about bias or favouritism. 5. *Legal and Regulatory Compliance*: * Organizations must adhere to legal and regulatory requirements regarding board elections. * The *CEO* should not interfere with these processes to ensure compliance. In summary, while the *CEO* plays a crucial role in organizational leadership, election issues are best handled by the *board* and its designated committees to maintain transparency and impartiality. Let's remember that the Board is the CEO's boss so isn't it plain obvious that the CEO should not be able to make decisions pertaining to selection of his/her boss? (*) I am copying Ms. Ilona Levine, ISOC General Counsel, as her extensive experience on Compliance would definitely be of value to this conversation. Kindest regards, Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond, PhD (*) passing no judgement on the current President and CEO Andrew Sullivan, this is a wider matter of standard Board governance On 08/04/2024 21:34, Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Dear Victor, > > thanks for your explanation. With abstentions the vote number makes sense. > And thanks for explaining the language in the Procedures for Trustees. > Kindest regards, > > Olivier > > On 08/04/2024 20:56, Victor Kuarsingh wrote: >> Olivier, >> >> The language in the Procedures for Trustees, Publication of the >> Result, says: >> >> >> *"Publication of the Result* >> >> *Only the vote counts of the?elected candidate Trustee and the total >> vote count are to be published, while all candidates and the?Board of >> Trustees will be provided with the?full list of candidates and the >> number of votes that each received."* >> >> Basically, only the vote count of those elected and the total vote >> count get released broadly (full details are distributed to the >> candidates and board).? I can confirm that there were abstentions. >> >> regards, >> >> >> Victor K >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:00?PM Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond >> wrote: >> >> Dear Victor, >> >> congratulations to Maureen Hilyard on her appointment! >> However, please see below: >> >> On 08/04/2024 18:19, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates wrote: >>> >>> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one >>> (1) seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has >>> been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. >>> >>> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 >>> eligible chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with theProcedures >>> for Selecting Trustees >>> , >>> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >>> >> >> Thank you for publishing the results, but I'm afraid they don't >> really make much sense. >> >> With 94 voting chapters and 44 votes going to Maureen Hilyard, >> that would mean 50 votes did not go to Maureen Hilyard, so does >> that mean that 7 votes or more were abstentions or invalid ballots? >> >> Usually vote results are given more clearly (and transparently) as: >> >> Candidate A: Nr. Votes - % >> Candidate B: Nr. Votes - % >> Abstentions: Nr. Votes - % >> N/A: Nr. Votes - % (if possible) >> >> Kindest regards, >> >> Olivier >> > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct:https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ted.ietf at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 04:38:08 2024 From: ted.ietf at gmail.com (Ted Hardie) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 12:38:08 +0100 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: <8a2104ae-9f01-409a-b079-f67e774218cc@gih.com> <94b3a72a-a7e8-4555-9049-5351e71f8709@gih.com> Message-ID: Hi Olivier, I am not a current member of either the elections or nominations committee, but I have served on each in previous rounds. My understanding is that the process needs to have someone designated to receive the challenge, but the challenge will always be brought to the whole board ("President, after consultation with the Chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees and the members of the Board of Trustees,"). As you know, the President and CEO is a non-voting member of the board, so designating the President as the person to receive the challenge ensures it is received by the board and, more especially, it is received by the one member of the board whose position cannot be up for election by the process undergoing the challenge. Last year, for example, I was both a candidate and the board chair, so the board chair receiving the challenge might be a conflict of interest. We could set it up some other way, of course, but challenges are rare, they are always brought to the full board, and the system has so far shown no signs of dysfunction. Just my personal opinion, of course, regards, Ted Hardie On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:27?PM Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Dear Victor, > > following up on my email below, I had a look at the "Procedures for > Selecting Trustees" on > https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/governance-policies/procedures-selecting-trustees/ > > I was flabbergasted about a number of the points in the process. I already > expressed by concern in relation to the strange publication of results and > I guess there must be some obscure historical reasons why it was designed > this way, but the other thing that got me to have difficulty staying in my > seat was the "Challenges" section: > > * Any challenge must be addressed to the President of the Society with a > recital of the reasons for the challenge, and must be received no later > than 7 days following the end of the election. The President, after > consultation with the Chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the author of the > challenge of the Board?s decision, which shall be final, within 7 days > following the end of the challenge period.* > > Well that's a pretty terrible idea. > > In organizations with elected board members, it is *not typical* for the *President > and CEO* to directly resolve election issues. Let?s explore why: > > 1. > > *Roles and Responsibilities*: > - The *President and CEO* typically focus on strategic leadership, > organizational management, and overall decision-making. > - *Election issues* fall within the purview of the *board* and its > governance processes. > 2. > > *Board Independence*: > - *Board members* are elected by stakeholders to represent their > interests. > - To maintain independence and avoid conflicts of interest, the > *CEO* should not directly intervene in election matters. > 3. > > *Board Governance*: > - *Election issues* are handled by the *Nominations Committee.* > - This committee oversees board nominations, elections, and related > processes so why is it not also in charge of *challenges*?. > 4. > > *Transparency and Fairness*: > - *Election processes* must be transparent, fair, and free from undue > influence. > - Involvement of the *CEO* could raise concerns about bias or > favouritism. > 5. > > *Legal and Regulatory Compliance*: > - Organizations must adhere to legal and regulatory requirements > regarding board elections. > - The *CEO* should not interfere with these processes to ensure > compliance. > > In summary, while the *CEO* plays a crucial role in organizational > leadership, election issues are best handled by the *board* and its > designated committees to maintain transparency and impartiality. > > Let's remember that the Board is the CEO's boss so isn't it plain obvious > that the CEO should not be able to make decisions pertaining to selection > of his/her boss? (*) > I am copying Ms. Ilona Levine, ISOC General Counsel, as her extensive > experience on Compliance would definitely be of value to this conversation. > > Kindest regards, > > Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond, PhD > > (*) passing no judgement on the current President and CEO Andrew Sullivan, > this is a wider matter of standard Board governance > > On 08/04/2024 21:34, Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > Dear Victor, > > thanks for your explanation. With abstentions the vote number makes sense. > And thanks for explaining the language in the Procedures for Trustees. > Kindest regards, > > Olivier > > On 08/04/2024 20:56, Victor Kuarsingh wrote: > > Olivier, > > > The language in the Procedures for Trustees, Publication of the Result, > says: > > > *"Publication of the Result* > > *Only the vote counts of the elected candidate Trustee and the total vote > count are to be published, while all candidates and the Board of Trustees > will be provided with the full list of candidates and the number of votes > that each received."* > > > > Basically, only the vote count of those elected and the total vote count > get released broadly (full details are distributed to the candidates and > board). I can confirm that there were abstentions. > > > > regards, > > > Victor K > > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:00?PM Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond > wrote: > >> Dear Victor, >> >> congratulations to Maureen Hilyard on her appointment! >> However, please see below: >> >> On 08/04/2024 18:19, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates wrote: >> >> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. >> Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >> 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> >> >> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible >> chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting >> Trustees >> , >> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >> >> >> Thank you for publishing the results, but I'm afraid they don't really >> make much sense. >> >> With 94 voting chapters and 44 votes going to Maureen Hilyard, that would >> mean 50 votes did not go to Maureen Hilyard, so does that mean that 7 votes >> or more were abstentions or invalid ballots? >> >> Usually vote results are given more clearly (and transparently) as: >> >> Candidate A: Nr. Votes - % >> Candidate B: Nr. Votes - % >> Abstentions: Nr. Votes - % >> N/A: Nr. Votes - % (if possible) >> >> Kindest regards, >> >> Olivier >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fredrik at lindeberg.net Tue Apr 9 04:49:11 2024 From: fredrik at lindeberg.net (Fredrik Lindeberg) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2024 13:49:11 +0200 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: <8a2104ae-9f01-409a-b079-f67e774218cc@gih.com> <94b3a72a-a7e8-4555-9049-5351e71f8709@gih.com> Message-ID: Hi Olivier, I am not a current member of either the elections or nominations committee, but I have served on each in previous rounds. My understanding is that the process needs to have someone designated to receive the challenge, but the challenge will always be brought to the whole board ("President, after consultation with the Chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees and the members of the Board of Trustees,"). As you know, the President and CEO is a non-voting member of the board, so designating the President as the person to receive the challenge ensures it is received by the board and, more especially, it is received by the one member of the board whose position cannot be up for election by the process undergoing the challenge. Last year, for example, I was both a candidate and the board chair, so the board chair receiving the challenge might be a conflict of interest. We could set it up some other way, of course, but challenges are rare, they are always brought to the full board, and the system has so far shown no signs of dysfunction. Just my personal opinion, of course, regards, Ted Hardie On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:27?PM Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Dear Victor, > > following up on my email below, I had a look at the "Procedures for > Selecting Trustees" on > https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/governance-policies/procedures-selecting-trustees/ > > I was flabbergasted about a number of the points in the process. I already > expressed by concern in relation to the strange publication of results and > I guess there must be some obscure historical reasons why it was designed > this way, but the other thing that got me to have difficulty staying in my > seat was the "Challenges" section: > > * Any challenge must be addressed to the President of the Society with a > recital of the reasons for the challenge, and must be received no later > than 7 days following the end of the election. The President, after > consultation with the Chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the author of the > challenge of the Board?s decision, which shall be final, within 7 days > following the end of the challenge period.* > > Well that's a pretty terrible idea. > > In organizations with elected board members, it is *not typical* for the *President > and CEO* to directly resolve election issues. Let?s explore why: > > 1. > > *Roles and Responsibilities*: > - The *President and CEO* typically focus on strategic leadership, > organizational management, and overall decision-making. > - *Election issues* fall within the purview of the *board* and its > governance processes. > 2. > > *Board Independence*: > - *Board members* are elected by stakeholders to represent their > interests. > - To maintain independence and avoid conflicts of interest, the > *CEO* should not directly intervene in election matters. > 3. > > *Board Governance*: > - *Election issues* are handled by the *Nominations Committee.* > - This committee oversees board nominations, elections, and related > processes so why is it not also in charge of *challenges*?. > 4. > > *Transparency and Fairness*: > - *Election processes* must be transparent, fair, and free from undue > influence. > - Involvement of the *CEO* could raise concerns about bias or > favouritism. > 5. > > *Legal and Regulatory Compliance*: > - Organizations must adhere to legal and regulatory requirements > regarding board elections. > - The *CEO* should not interfere with these processes to ensure > compliance. > > In summary, while the *CEO* plays a crucial role in organizational > leadership, election issues are best handled by the *board* and its > designated committees to maintain transparency and impartiality. > > Let's remember that the Board is the CEO's boss so isn't it plain obvious > that the CEO should not be able to make decisions pertaining to selection > of his/her boss? (*) > I am copying Ms. Ilona Levine, ISOC General Counsel, as her extensive > experience on Compliance would definitely be of value to this conversation. > > Kindest regards, > > Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond, PhD > > (*) passing no judgement on the current President and CEO Andrew Sullivan, > this is a wider matter of standard Board governance > > On 08/04/2024 21:34, Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > Dear Victor, > > thanks for your explanation. With abstentions the vote number makes sense. > And thanks for explaining the language in the Procedures for Trustees. > Kindest regards, > > Olivier > > On 08/04/2024 20:56, Victor Kuarsingh wrote: > > Olivier, > > > The language in the Procedures for Trustees, Publication of the Result, > says: > > > *"Publication of the Result* > > *Only the vote counts of the elected candidate Trustee and the total vote > count are to be published, while all candidates and the Board of Trustees > will be provided with the full list of candidates and the number of votes > that each received."* > > > > Basically, only the vote count of those elected and the total vote count > get released broadly (full details are distributed to the candidates and > board). I can confirm that there were abstentions. > > > > regards, > > > Victor K > > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:00?PM Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond > wrote: > >> Dear Victor, >> >> congratulations to Maureen Hilyard on her appointment! >> However, please see below: >> >> On 08/04/2024 18:19, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates wrote: >> >> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. >> Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >> 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> >> >> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible >> chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting >> Trustees >> , >> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >> >> >> Thank you for publishing the results, but I'm afraid they don't really >> make much sense. >> >> With 94 voting chapters and 44 votes going to Maureen Hilyard, that would >> mean 50 votes did not go to Maureen Hilyard, so does that mean that 7 votes >> or more were abstentions or invalid ballots? >> >> Usually vote results are given more clearly (and transparently) as: >> >> Candidate A: Nr. Votes - % >> Candidate B: Nr. Votes - % >> Abstentions: Nr. Votes - % >> N/A: Nr. Votes - % (if possible) >> >> Kindest regards, >> >> Olivier >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I cannot comment on behalf of the full board or counsel, so will take these points back for further discussion and review. regards, Victor K On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 7:26?AM Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond wrote: > Dear Victor, > > following up on my email below, I had a look at the "Procedures for > Selecting Trustees" on > https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/governance-policies/procedures-selecting-trustees/ > > I was flabbergasted about a number of the points in the process. I already > expressed by concern in relation to the strange publication of results and > I guess there must be some obscure historical reasons why it was designed > this way, but the other thing that got me to have difficulty staying in my > seat was the "Challenges" section: > > * Any challenge must be addressed to the President of the Society with a > recital of the reasons for the challenge, and must be received no later > than 7 days following the end of the election. The President, after > consultation with the Chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the author of the > challenge of the Board?s decision, which shall be final, within 7 days > following the end of the challenge period.* > > Well that's a pretty terrible idea. > > In organizations with elected board members, it is *not typical* for the *President > and CEO* to directly resolve election issues. Let?s explore why: > > 1. > > *Roles and Responsibilities*: > - The *President and CEO* typically focus on strategic leadership, > organizational management, and overall decision-making. > - *Election issues* fall within the purview of the *board* and its > governance processes. > 2. > > *Board Independence*: > - *Board members* are elected by stakeholders to represent their > interests. > - To maintain independence and avoid conflicts of interest, the > *CEO* should not directly intervene in election matters. > 3. > > *Board Governance*: > - *Election issues* are handled by the *Nominations Committee.* > - This committee oversees board nominations, elections, and related > processes so why is it not also in charge of *challenges*?. > 4. > > *Transparency and Fairness*: > - *Election processes* must be transparent, fair, and free from undue > influence. > - Involvement of the *CEO* could raise concerns about bias or > favouritism. > 5. > > *Legal and Regulatory Compliance*: > - Organizations must adhere to legal and regulatory requirements > regarding board elections. > - The *CEO* should not interfere with these processes to ensure > compliance. > > In summary, while the *CEO* plays a crucial role in organizational > leadership, election issues are best handled by the *board* and its > designated committees to maintain transparency and impartiality. > > Let's remember that the Board is the CEO's boss so isn't it plain obvious > that the CEO should not be able to make decisions pertaining to selection > of his/her boss? (*) > I am copying Ms. Ilona Levine, ISOC General Counsel, as her extensive > experience on Compliance would definitely be of value to this conversation. > > Kindest regards, > > Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond, PhD > > (*) passing no judgement on the current President and CEO Andrew Sullivan, > this is a wider matter of standard Board governance > > On 08/04/2024 21:34, Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > Dear Victor, > > thanks for your explanation. With abstentions the vote number makes sense. > And thanks for explaining the language in the Procedures for Trustees. > Kindest regards, > > Olivier > > On 08/04/2024 20:56, Victor Kuarsingh wrote: > > Olivier, > > > The language in the Procedures for Trustees, Publication of the Result, > says: > > > *"Publication of the Result* > > *Only the vote counts of the elected candidate Trustee and the total vote > count are to be published, while all candidates and the Board of Trustees > will be provided with the full list of candidates and the number of votes > that each received."* > > > > Basically, only the vote count of those elected and the total vote count > get released broadly (full details are distributed to the candidates and > board). I can confirm that there were abstentions. > > > > regards, > > > Victor K > > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:00?PM Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond > wrote: > >> Dear Victor, >> >> congratulations to Maureen Hilyard on her appointment! >> However, please see below: >> >> On 08/04/2024 18:19, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates wrote: >> >> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. >> Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >> 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> >> >> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible >> chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting >> Trustees >> , >> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >> >> >> Thank you for publishing the results, but I'm afraid they don't really >> make much sense. >> >> With 94 voting chapters and 44 votes going to Maureen Hilyard, that would >> mean 50 votes did not go to Maureen Hilyard, so does that mean that 7 votes >> or more were abstentions or invalid ballots? >> >> Usually vote results are given more clearly (and transparently) as: >> >> Candidate A: Nr. Votes - % >> Candidate B: Nr. Votes - % >> Abstentions: Nr. Votes - % >> N/A: Nr. Votes - % (if possible) >> >> Kindest regards, >> >> Olivier >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flavio at inf.ufrgs.br Tue Apr 9 06:13:09 2024 From: flavio at inf.ufrgs.br (=?UTF-8?Q?Fl=C3=A1vio_Rech_Wagner?=) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 10:13:09 -0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations, Maureen! I wish you a very successful term as trustee. And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to engage more effectively with the Board and with the senior staff in relevant issues, such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, strategies, and positions on policy issues. Best, Fl?vio R. Wagner ISOC Brazil > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to > extend my appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the > Board of Trustees elections. We are honored that so many qualified > individuals offered to serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and > the election results were certified today, in accordance with the > elections timetable. > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) > seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected > to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 > eligible chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with theProcedures for > Selecting Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > In addition, theProcedures for Selecting Trustees > state > that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates > for one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, > Kathleen Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the > 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and > thanking all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the > Elections Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 > April by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at > the addresselection-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must > include an explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The > President, after consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and > Elections Committees and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall > advise the challenge author of the board's decision by 22 April. > > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees > elections. > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct:https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -- Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul Instituto de Inform?tica Porto Alegre, Brasil Presidente da Internet Society Brasil flavio at inf.ufrgs.br,info at isoc.org.br https://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasil https://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasil https://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wish you a very successful term as trustee. > > And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to engage more > effectively with the Board and with the senior staff in relevant issues, > such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, strategies, and positions on > policy issues. > > Best, > > Fl?vio R. Wagner > ISOC Brazil > > > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend my > appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of Trustees > elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to > serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after > consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees > and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author > of the board's decision by 22 April. > > > > Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees > elections. > > > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > > -- > Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner > > Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul > Instituto de Inform?tica > Porto Alegre, Brasil > > Presidente da Internet Society Brasilflavio at inf.ufrgs.br, info at isoc.org.brhttps://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasilhttps://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasilhttps://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): > https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mini.ulanat at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 06:59:22 2024 From: mini.ulanat at gmail.com (Mini Ulanat) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 19:29:22 +0530 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hearty congratulations to Maureen Hilyard and Kathleen Moriarty! Mini Ulanat ISOC- TRV On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 at 10:49?PM, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend my > appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of Trustees > elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals offered to > serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election results were > certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. > > > > *CHAPTERS* > > In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. > Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a > 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible > chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting > Trustees > , > Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. > > > > In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees > > state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible to > vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting > privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this > email). > > > > *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* > > In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for > one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen > Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. > > > > Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 > eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. > > > > Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking > all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections > Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. > > > > Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April by > email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address > election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an > explanation of the reasons for the challenge. 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URL: From sullivan at isoc.org Tue Apr 9 07:38:53 2024 From: sullivan at isoc.org (Andrew Sullivan) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 10:38:53 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] On more effective engagement (was Re: 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:13:09AM -0300, Fl?vio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates wrote: >And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to engage >more effectively with the Board and with the senior staff in relevant >issues, such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, strategies, and >positions on policy issues. The above suggests to me one (or more) of the following possibilities: ? that there is some feeling that the consultations that happened over the course of 2023 that were part of the development of the soon-to-be-published 2030 strategic plan were not adequate or effective; ? that there is some feeling that the policy development process we have in place does not adequately engage the chapters; ? that the engagement on either of the above is sufficient in quantity but somehow ineffective; ? something else. It would be extremely helpful to know which of these you're thinking and any suggestions you might have to make things different. At the moment, I understand there is a complaint but I don't know what it is or what kind of action anyone might take to try to address it. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan, President & CEO, Internet Society e:sullivan at isoc.org m:+1 416 731 1261 Help protect the Internet for everyone: https://www.internetsociety.org/donate/ From veni at veni.com Tue Apr 9 08:28:06 2024 From: veni at veni.com (Veni Markovski) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 11:28:06 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: By the way, to make sure my words are not misunderstood: I?m not criticizing the current information flow from the BoT to the chapters. With that being said, I?ll go back to just reading here. Best regards, Veni Markovski http://www.veni.com pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com The opinions expressed above are those of the author, not of any organizations, associated with or related to the author in any given way. On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:43 Veni Markovski wrote: > +1, Flavio. > Also, please, let us know regularly what?s actually happening at the Boat, > esp. when it concerns the future of the Internet and ISOC. > > > > Best regards, > Veni Markovski > http://www.veni.com > pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com > > > The opinions expressed above are those of the author, > not of any organizations, associated with or related to > the author in any given way. > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:13 Fl?vio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Congratulations, Maureen! I wish you a very successful term as trustee. >> >> And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to engage >> more effectively with the Board and with the senior staff in relevant >> issues, such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, strategies, and >> positions on policy issues. >> >> Best, >> >> Fl?vio R. Wagner >> ISOC Brazil >> >> >> Dear Chapter Leaders: >> >> >> >> On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend >> my appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of >> Trustees elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals >> offered to serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election >> results were certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. >> >> >> >> *CHAPTERS* >> >> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) seat. >> Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >> 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> >> >> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible >> chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting >> Trustees >> , >> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >> >> >> >> In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees >> >> state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible >> to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting >> privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this >> email). >> >> >> >> *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* >> >> In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for >> one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen >> Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. >> >> >> >> Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the 81 >> eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. >> >> >> >> Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking >> all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections >> Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. >> >> >> >> Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April >> by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address >> election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an >> explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after >> consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees >> and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author >> of the board's decision by 22 April. >> >> >> >> Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees >> elections. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Victor Kuarsingh >> >> 2024 Elections Committee Chair >> >> Internet Society >> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> >> >> -- >> Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner >> >> Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul >> Instituto de Inform?tica >> Porto Alegre, Brasil >> >> Presidente da Internet Society Brasilflavio at inf.ufrgs.br, info at isoc.org.brhttps://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasilhttps://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasilhttps://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hipouia at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 19:07:11 2024 From: hipouia at gmail.com (Luis Martinez) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 20:07:11 -0600 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, information is flowing as well as communication. However, Chapters need to suggest a way (format, frequency, deepness) to get this information. Again, to be more proactive. A simple question, is ChAC a working and useful structure ? If so, ok .. it is what it is. But if not, then how to reform it to be more effective in such a need of information and communication ? Sincerely, Luis Martinez On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 9:28?AM Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > By the way, to make sure my words are not misunderstood: I?m not > criticizing the current information flow from the BoT to the chapters. > With that being said, I?ll go back to just reading here. > > > Best regards, > Veni Markovski > http://www.veni.com > pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com > > > The opinions expressed above are those of the author, > not of any organizations, associated with or related to > the author in any given way. > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:43 Veni Markovski wrote: > >> +1, Flavio. >> Also, please, let us know regularly what?s actually happening at the >> Boat, esp. when it concerns the future of the Internet and ISOC. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> Veni Markovski >> http://www.veni.com >> pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com >> >> >> The opinions expressed above are those of the author, >> not of any organizations, associated with or related to >> the author in any given way. >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:13 Fl?vio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: >> >>> Congratulations, Maureen! I wish you a very successful term as trustee. >>> >>> And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to engage >>> more effectively with the Board and with the senior staff in relevant >>> issues, such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, strategies, and >>> positions on policy issues. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Fl?vio R. Wagner >>> ISOC Brazil >>> >>> >>> Dear Chapter Leaders: >>> >>> >>> >>> On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend >>> my appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of >>> Trustees elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals >>> offered to serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election >>> results were certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. >>> >>> >>> >>> *CHAPTERS* >>> >>> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) >>> seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >>> 3-year term as a trustee. >>> >>> >>> >>> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible >>> chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting >>> Trustees >>> , >>> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >>> >>> >>> >>> In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees >>> >>> state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible >>> to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting >>> privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this >>> email). >>> >>> >>> >>> *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* >>> >>> In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for >>> one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen >>> Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. >>> >>> >>> >>> Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the >>> 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking >>> all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections >>> Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. >>> >>> >>> >>> Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April >>> by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address >>> election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an >>> explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after >>> consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees >>> and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author >>> of the board's decision by 22 April. >>> >>> >>> >>> Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees >>> elections. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Victor Kuarsingh >>> >>> 2024 Elections Committee Chair >>> >>> Internet Society >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner >>> >>> Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul >>> Instituto de Inform?tica >>> Porto Alegre, Brasil >>> >>> Presidente da Internet Society Brasilflavio at inf.ufrgs.br, info at isoc.org.brhttps://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasilhttps://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasilhttps://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>> Chapter Portal (AMS): >>> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>> >> _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. > - > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adebunmi.akinbo at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 21:14:48 2024 From: adebunmi.akinbo at gmail.com (Adebunmi Akinbo) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 05:14:48 +0100 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations, Maureen and Kathleen. Wishing you the best. Regards. - Dr. Akinbo, Adebunmi Adeola Africa Representative, ChAC. On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 03:07, Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Well, information is flowing as well as communication. However, Chapters > need to suggest a way (format, frequency, deepness) to get this > information. Again, to be more proactive. A simple question, is ChAC a > working and useful structure ? If so, ok .. it is what it is. But if not, > then how to reform it to be more effective in such a need of information > and communication ? > > Sincerely, > Luis Martinez > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 9:28?AM Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> By the way, to make sure my words are not misunderstood: I?m not >> criticizing the current information flow from the BoT to the chapters. >> With that being said, I?ll go back to just reading here. >> >> >> Best regards, >> Veni Markovski >> http://www.veni.com >> pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com >> >> >> The opinions expressed above are those of the author, >> not of any organizations, associated with or related to >> the author in any given way. >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:43 Veni Markovski wrote: >> >>> +1, Flavio. >>> Also, please, let us know regularly what?s actually happening at the >>> Boat, esp. when it concerns the future of the Internet and ISOC. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Veni Markovski >>> http://www.veni.com >>> pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com >>> >>> >>> The opinions expressed above are those of the author, >>> not of any organizations, associated with or related to >>> the author in any given way. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:13 Fl?vio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates < >>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Congratulations, Maureen! I wish you a very successful term as trustee. >>>> >>>> And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to engage >>>> more effectively with the Board and with the senior staff in relevant >>>> issues, such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, strategies, and >>>> positions on policy issues. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Fl?vio R. Wagner >>>> ISOC Brazil >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Chapter Leaders: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to extend >>>> my appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of >>>> Trustees elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals >>>> offered to serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election >>>> results were certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *CHAPTERS* >>>> >>>> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) >>>> seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >>>> 3-year term as a trustee. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 eligible >>>> chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for Selecting >>>> Trustees >>>> , >>>> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees >>>> >>>> state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters eligible >>>> to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their voting >>>> privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to this >>>> email). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* >>>> >>>> In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates for >>>> one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, Kathleen >>>> Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the >>>> 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and thanking >>>> all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the Elections >>>> Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 April >>>> by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the address >>>> election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include an >>>> explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after >>>> consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees >>>> and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author >>>> of the board's decision by 22 April. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees >>>> elections. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Victor Kuarsingh >>>> >>>> 2024 Elections Committee Chair >>>> >>>> Internet Society >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner >>>> >>>> Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul >>>> Instituto de Inform?tica >>>> Porto Alegre, Brasil >>>> >>>> Presidente da Internet Society Brasilflavio at inf.ufrgs.br, info at isoc.org.brhttps://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasilhttps://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasilhttps://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): >>>> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >>>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. >> - >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. > - > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ambnn2001 at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 23:00:11 2024 From: ambnn2001 at gmail.com (Asrat Beyene) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 09:00:11 +0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations, Maureen and Kathleen! I wish you all the best. Regards, Asrat ISOC Ethiopia Chapter On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 07:15 Adebunmi Akinbo via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Congratulations, Maureen and Kathleen. > Wishing you the best. > Regards. > - Dr. Akinbo, Adebunmi Adeola > Africa Representative, ChAC. > > On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 03:07, Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Well, information is flowing as well as communication. However, Chapters >> need to suggest a way (format, frequency, deepness) to get this >> information. Again, to be more proactive. A simple question, is ChAC a >> working and useful structure ? If so, ok .. it is what it is. But if not, >> then how to reform it to be more effective in such a need of information >> and communication ? >> >> Sincerely, >> Luis Martinez >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 9:28?AM Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: >> >>> By the way, to make sure my words are not misunderstood: I?m not >>> criticizing the current information flow from the BoT to the chapters. >>> With that being said, I?ll go back to just reading here. >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Veni Markovski >>> http://www.veni.com >>> pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com >>> >>> >>> The opinions expressed above are those of the author, >>> not of any organizations, associated with or related to >>> the author in any given way. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:43 Veni Markovski wrote: >>> >>>> +1, Flavio. >>>> Also, please, let us know regularly what?s actually happening at the >>>> Boat, esp. when it concerns the future of the Internet and ISOC. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Veni Markovski >>>> http://www.veni.com >>>> pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com >>>> >>>> >>>> The opinions expressed above are those of the author, >>>> not of any organizations, associated with or related to >>>> the author in any given way. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:13 Fl?vio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates < >>>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Congratulations, Maureen! I wish you a very successful term as >>>>> trustee. >>>>> >>>>> And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to engage >>>>> more effectively with the Board and with the senior staff in relevant >>>>> issues, such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, strategies, and >>>>> positions on policy issues. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Fl?vio R. Wagner >>>>> ISOC Brazil >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Chapter Leaders: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to >>>>> extend my appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of >>>>> Trustees elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals >>>>> offered to serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election >>>>> results were certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *CHAPTERS* >>>>> >>>>> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) >>>>> seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >>>>> 3-year term as a trustee. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 >>>>> eligible chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for >>>>> Selecting Trustees >>>>> , >>>>> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees >>>>> >>>>> state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters >>>>> eligible to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their >>>>> voting privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to >>>>> this email). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* >>>>> >>>>> In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates >>>>> for one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, >>>>> Kathleen Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of the >>>>> 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and >>>>> thanking all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the >>>>> Elections Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 >>>>> April by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the >>>>> address election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must include >>>>> an explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, after >>>>> consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections Committees >>>>> and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the challenge author >>>>> of the board's decision by 22 April. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees >>>>> elections. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Victor Kuarsingh >>>>> >>>>> 2024 Elections Committee Chair >>>>> >>>>> Internet Society >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>>>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner >>>>> >>>>> Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul >>>>> Instituto de Inform?tica >>>>> Porto Alegre, Brasil >>>>> >>>>> Presidente da Internet Society Brasilflavio at inf.ufrgs.br, info at isoc.org.brhttps://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasilhttps://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasilhttps://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet >>>>> Society Chapter Portal (AMS): >>>>> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>>>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >>>>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. >>> - >>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. >> - >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. > - > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ambnn2001 at gmail.com Tue Apr 9 23:17:32 2024 From: ambnn2001 at gmail.com (Asrat Beyene) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 09:17:32 +0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Application to start an Internet Society Chapter US Los Angeles and Southern California : Peer-Review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *Dear All,* *The application to start a new chapter named ISOC-LA-SOCAL is well prepared and already getting support from nearby Chapter which I found it interesting. * *I am fully positive and support the establishment this new chapter. * *@Kayle, I'm wondering how close or overlapping, in terms of Chapters' operating geography, we need to accommodate in the future? * Asrat ISOC Ethiopia Chapter On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, 08:45 Ronald Petty via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Team, > > I want to second everyone's positive words for the ISOC LA-SOCAL. The ISOC > SF Bay Area chapter will happily share the mission with our in-state > partner. As Joly stated and Tom Thorley reminded me; the contrast of both > the SoCal and NorCal economies will provide many interesting challenges and > opportunities for all of us! > > Ron Petty > ISOC SF Bay Area > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 6:22?AM Kyle Shulman via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Dear Chapter Leaders, >> >> >> >> We have recently received the application below to start an Internet >> Society Chapter in *Los Angeles and Southern California*. I invite you to >> *review it and share your comments by 22 April 2024*. >> >> >> >> If you know of any active Internet Society members interested in joining >> this initiative, please let me know via shulman at isoc.org I would be >> happy to connect them to the volunteers who submitted this application. >> >> >> >> Thank you in advance for your feedback. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> Kyle >> >> >> >> >> >> *Chapter Application Los Angeles and Southern California * >> >> *A. Proposed name of the Chapter * >> >> The Los Angeles and Southern California Chapter of the Internet Society >> (ISOC LA-SOCAL) >> >> *B. Community of Interest the Chapter will serve. * >> >> The ISOC LA-SOCAL will generally serve individuals who live or work in >> the geographic area of Los Angeles and the surrounding area of Southern >> California from San Luis Obispo County and eastward to the southern border >> of California, with the understanding that all ISOC Chapters are not >> confined to geographic areas. >> >> *C. Purpose and scope of Chapter * >> >> The chapter will work towards: >> >> 1. Supporting awareness by building initiatives and outreach efforts >> concerning internet connectivity. >> 2. Facilitating discussion of issues that affect internet users in >> the community. >> 3. Furthering the community's participation in areas important to the >> evolution and further >> >> development of the Internet. >> >> 4. Ensuring the community voice is included in Internet policy >> development. >> >> *D. Outline of key priorities for the first year of the Chapter * >> >> *It is important that, besides drive and vision, there are also some >> concrete plans for what the chapter will achieve in its first year of >> operation. If you are unsure as to how to develop a plan, please **visit >> our resource page**. * >> >> In the short term, the chapter will aim to achieve the following >> objectives: >> >> 1. Establish a presence in the communities and build awareness >> through partnering with existing organizations and promoting membership in >> ISOC Los Angeles Chapter. >> 2. Policy development Global Connected Internet and Unrestricted >> Reachability >> 3. Internet Access for Homeless Communities >> 4. Digital Literacy and Education >> 5. Establish a website and social media presence to promote ISOC LA >> Chapter events and >> >> local initiatives that also support the ISOC and local communities. >> >> *E. Founding members of the Chapter * >> >> *Please list complete contact information and affiliations for all >> persons who will be working together to create the Chapter. A minimum of 25 >> Internet Society members is required for a charter. Please supply their >> names. * >> >> Membership Tracking document - Current have 41 members signed up to ISOC >> and evenly distributed across industry, academia and other parts of civil >> society. >> >> *F. List of supporters and partner organizations * >> >> *Please list complete contact information for any organizations or groups >> who will be supporting or partnering with the potential Chapter. Be sure to >> indicate an individual or an individual?s role for each supporter and their >> contact details. We strongly encourage Chapters to take a >> ?multi-stakeholder? approach to forming a Chapter. * >> >> Potential partners: Google Venice (and Jigsaw), County of Los Angeles, >> Los Angeles Jewish Federation, Discord, UCLA, AI LA, Left Field Live, City >> of Los Angeles, LA Rams. >> >> [image: page2image61765232] >> >> *Organization * >> >> *Status * >> >> *Sector * >> >> America on Tech >> >> Potential >> >> Civil Society >> >> All Tech is Human >> >> Potential >> >> Civil Society >> >> LA Tech 4 Good >> >> Potential >> >> Civil Society >> >> Los Angeles Jewish Federation >> >> Potential >> >> Civil Society >> >> AI LA >> >> Potential >> >> Civil Society >> >> City of Los Angeles >> >> Potential >> >> Government >> >> County of Los Angeles >> >> Potential >> >> Government >> >> LA Rams/LA Dodgers >> >> Potential >> >> Sports - Community (via Eradicate Hate) >> >> Disney >> >> Potential >> >> Film Industry >> >> Discord >> >> Potential >> >> Tech >> >> Google >> >> Potential >> >> Tech >> >> Left Field Live >> >> Potential >> >> Tech >> >> AirTable >> >> Potential >> >> Tech >> >> TikTok >> >> Potential >> >> Tech >> >> *G. Membership * >> >> We will establish the following communication channels: >> >> 1. A website to communicate events, recruit board members, share key >> information, and raise up the voices of our membership and the ISOC >> community-at-large. >> 2. A monthly newsletter to all members. >> 3. A Discord Server to communicate with members and document events >> and a LinkedIn >> >> group to recruit new members. >> >> Founding Members >> >> [image: page3image61731424] >> >> *Name * >> >> Josh Steinberg >> >> Jakob Nielsen >> >> Liz Oh >> >> Kenneth Wyrick >> >> Bri Riggio >> >> Tom Thorley >> >> Joseph Benton >> >> Robert Gonzalez >> >> Jonathan King >> >> Jessica Dickinson Goodman >> >> Lianna Galstyan >> >> Carson Mobley >> >> Diana Ascher >> >> Daniel Zaltsman >> >> Karen Borchgrevink >> >> Garrett Allen >> >> Alex DeLarge >> >> Darren O'Connor >> >> Dominic Cutulli >> >> Lonnie Elijah >> >> Nathan Benavides >> >> Sean Clift >> >> Victor Salazar >> >> Yesenia Cisneros >> >> >> >> *H. List of requirements * >> >> We are in the process of establishing a new 501(c)3 to house this >> chapter, paying the $600 cost using a grant from the Internet Society >> Foundation (San Francisco and Bay Area Chapter). >> >> *I. Additional information * >> >> Our 25 founding members include past ISOC chapter board members from >> other chapters who have relocated to LA, so we are honored to start off >> this process with a lot of depth in the organization. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> Kyle Shulman >> >> Senior Manager, >> >> Community Engagement >> >> Shulman at isoc.org >> >> ______________ >> >> Give a gift of opportunity. 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[image: ISOC LIVE] *Viernes 5 Abr 2024* - *CLNOG* presenta el primer *Encuentro de Operadores de Red de Chile *con el apoyo de *NIC Chile * - *Universidad de Chile *, R*egistro de dominios .CL* , *Internet Society Cap?tulo Chile *, *PIT Chile y Habla IP * . *01 Bienvenida al evento* *Jaime Cruz Mendoza* (PIT Chile SpA) *02 Grupos de NOG* *Lia Solis* (LACNOG) *03 Fibra en lugares remotos* *Marcelo Valenzuela* (Universidad de Chile) *04 Evoluci?n de una CDN, repaso de 10 a?os de Akamai* *Erick Cassal* (Akamai) *05 Conectividad entre pa?ses LATAM* *Guillermo Cicileo* (LACNIC) *06 Privacidad y Seguridad con DNS Recursivo* *Sergio Rojas* (PCH) *07 Medici?n de Prefijos BGP* *Celsa S?nchez* (NIC Chile) *LIVESTREAM https://youtu.be/pFhsNxNdFBk * (ISOC.CL) *X #CLNOG @uchile @NICChile @isoc_chile @hablaip #PITChile2024* *ARCHIVE https://archive.org/details/clnog2024 *(ES/PT/EN) *Permalink https://isoc.live/17615 * - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From w.yu at gmx.net Wed Apr 10 05:35:30 2024 From: w.yu at gmx.net (Winthrop Yu) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:35:30 +0800 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] ChAC -was- 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6e030721-fdde-46a3-bf01-66e91171cdb2@gmx.net> As i recall, the Chapters Advisory Council (ChAC) was working superbly well in early 2020, just around the time the? pandemic was getting underway. YMMV, WYn PH On 10 Apr 2024 10:07 AM, Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Well, information is flowing as well as communication. However, Chapters need > to suggest a way (format, frequency, deepness) to get this information. Again, > to be more proactive. A simple question, is ChAC a working and useful > structure ? If so, ok .. it is what it is. But if not, then how to reform it > to be more?effective in such a need of information and communication ? > > Sincerely, > Luis Martinez > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 9:28?AM Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates > wrote: > > By the way, to make sure my words are not misunderstood: I?m not > criticizing the current ?information flow from the BoT to the chapters. > With that being said, I?ll go back to just reading here. > > > Best regards, > Veni Markovski > http://www.veni.com > pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com > > > The opinions expressed above are those of the author, > not of any organizations, associated with or related to > the author in any given way. > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:43 Veni Markovski wrote: > > +1, Flavio. > Also, please, let us know regularly what?s actually happening at the > Boat, esp. when it concerns the future of the Internet and ISOC. > > > > Best regards, > Veni Markovski > http://www.veni.com > pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com > > > The opinions expressed above are those of the author, > not of any organizations, associated with or related to > the author in any given way. > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:13 Fl?vio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates > wrote: > > Congratulations, Maureen! I wish you a very successful term as > trustee. > > And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to > engage more effectively with the Board and with the senior staff > in relevant issues, such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, > strategies, and positions on policy issues. > > Best, > > Fl?vio R. Wagner > ISOC Brazil > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ocl at gih.com Wed Apr 10 05:59:04 2024 From: ocl at gih.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Olivier_MJ_Cr=C3=A9pin-Leblond?=) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:59:04 +0100 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?A_call_to_chapters=E2=80=99_action?= In-Reply-To: References: <03f7eb8b-b600-4d46-99ff-6017fa0d126d@Spark> <0f5b62ff-9565-46b2-9132-9cebe97fbd89@Spark> <78201a48-1c9f-4a45-afa6-5c8584b91630@gmx.net> Message-ID: Dear Cheryl, thank you for explaining the function of the Chapter Advisory Council. I would add a few more thing: For information to others here, the Chapter Advisory Council's summary description is on: https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/ Its function is defined by the Charter published on https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/charter/ I should add, having been amongst the Chapters that proposed the Chapter AC and drafted the Charter, that the Chapter AC is not an exclusive channel for all conversations between the President & CEO and Board of Trustees of the Internet Society and the Chapters. Rather it serves as a facilitator to help with communication and provide clarity over what Chapters are asking for when sometimes there are mixed messages coming from Chapters. So it is an additional channel - and a very strong one indeed as it is able to work out a consensus amongst Chapters on major issues. As such, I hope that you and your Steering Committee have taken note of the points which have been discussed here and are putting together a working plan on how to resolve these with the President, CEO and Board. Some significant concerns have been expressed, not by isolated voices but by many Chapters on several points, so they cannot be dropped in between the floorboards. Kindest regards, Olivier On 02/04/2024 03:31, Cheryl Langdon-Orr via Chapter-delegates wrote: > Regarding your specific questions re ChAC Luis,? in addition to email > lists and ChAC Reps being often active on the CH-delegates list, the > ChAC as an entity meets, as a plenary (with all ChAC Reps) 4 times a > year (once a calendar quarter) and the report/update to the BoT occurs > at the BoT meeting immediately?after that plenary?session, (often only > days later in fact), BUT of course anything urgent or time > critical?can and would be transmitted intersessional to the calendar > cadence of BoT gatherings... > > Additionally, the ChAC Steering Committee meets monthly, and not only > any ongoing transmitted to the BoT or urgent new issues are discussed, > reviewed, and, if needed, action at these more recent meetings? (at > least since the end of 2022) an 'always open 24x7' box note system > where any matter for the attention of the ChAC can be raised for > between meeting note and action; as well as a separate open to ChAC > Reps box note where any suggestions for topics and activities for > future ChAC plenaries can be proposed is in operation. > > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr > about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 12:55, 66499 via Chapter-delegates > wrote: > > Dear Veni, Theo, Win, All, > > Thanks for your responses. Maybe we are not asking the right > questions to ourselves. What is the ISOC we imagine, the one we > need and what is possible to have ? Somehow we got in the slow > lane, how many meetings the ChAC has in a year ? How long it takes > the information to get to the Board ? If able, how the board may > ask for some action and finally how long it takes some change to > happen ? That is something we have not figured out how to > overcome. We are getting speedy responses but that keeps us always > around the same place. That?s why we need more strategy which > needs to be figured out from collective thinking. Is it lack of > leadership ? I have the feeling that if we do not reflect we wont > be building that future we would like to be at. > > Let?s keep the discussion. > > Sincerely, > > Luis > > > Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor > and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of > the Board of Trustees Internet Society > On 1 Apr 2024 19:41 -0600, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates > , wrote: >> >> There used to be regular Regional (in-person) meetings of the >> Chapters too ... until the Regional Bureaus were dismantled and >> Chapter Enforcement was centralized. >> >> WYn >> >> On 2 Apr 2024 12:26 AM, Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates wrote: >>> >>> I recall Chapters and?members meetings used to happen at every >>> ICANN back in the day, organized by staff, and were happy >>> occasions. There used to be two per ICANN allowing for plenty of >>> lively discussion. >>> >>> I have a few archived >>> ICANN 44 https://isoc.live/4047/ >>> ICANN 46 https://isoc.live/5359/ >>> ICANN 49 https://isoc.live/6454/ >>> ICANN 50 Chapter workshop https://isoc.live/6762/ >>> ICANN 50 https://isoc.live/6765/ >>> ICANN 51 https://isoc.live/7095/ >>> ICANN 52 https://isoc.live/7458/ >>> ICANN 53 https://isoc.live/7847/ >>> >>> Joly >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08?AM Osvaldo Larancuent via >>> Chapter-delegates wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special >>> real life event once a year for the Internet Society >>> community, addressing different issues based on an agenda, >>> is not an utopian dream, especially when that?s the rule on >>> other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, >>> and so on. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Osvaldo >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto >>> Chair >>> >>> Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do) >>> >>> https://isoc.do >>> >>> *De:* Chapter-delegates >>> en nombre de >>> Pedro de Perdig?o Lana via Chapter-delegates >>> >>> *Fecha:* lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51?a.?m. >>> *Para:* drhipo at me.com >>> *CC:* Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates >>> >>> *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters? action >>> >>> Hi Luis, >>> >>> Loved the suggestion! >>> >>> I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate >>> event. Considering how much one could save with logistics, >>> maybe doing a short survey related to what events in >>> 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and >>> trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters >>> reunion right before or after the larger event would work >>> well. If it is in their interest, ChAC could have a central >>> role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a >>> position document as a result - if that sounds good to >>> others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what >>> already happens in other summits and working groups: most of >>> the substantial work (definitions of common agendas and >>> concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual >>> meeting (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so >>> we could then present it publicly. >>> >>> Cordially, >>> >>> >>> *Pedro de Perdig?o Lana >>> * Lawyer , GEDAI/UFPR >>> Researcher >>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) >>> Board Member @ CC Brasil , >>> ISOC BR and IODA >>> >>> This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). >>> If received by mistake, please reply informing it. >>> >>> Em s?b., 30 de mar. de 2024 ?s 23:51, 66499 via >>> Chapter-delegates escreveu: >>> >>> Dear Members and Friends of ISOC, >>> >>> During the last months, we have read many stories about >>> the tools we need to build a better Internet for >>> everyone, not just the software and resources but >>> policies that may future shape the organizations and >>> regions. Some discussions are happening at a national or >>> regional level, others organized by the staff that we >>> interact with. However, most is happening in the email >>> lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically >>> for long time. As a member of ISOC, I would, >>> respectfully, like to make a call to our 120+ chapters >>> to collectively think about how we can organize in the >>> short term a discussion about the issues that we face to >>> fulfill our mission -global, regional or national. Not a >>> meeting organized and conducted by Staff, not within >>> another organizations? event, but by the Chapters and >>> their leadership with open participation. It may be an >>> utopia but we know that we are well capable of do it. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Luis Martinez * >>> Member of the board of trustees ISOC >>> ISOC MX >>> >>> PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. 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This process ensures that the advice provided to the BOT originates directly from the chapters rather than being solely produced by the ChAC-SC, whose main responsibility is facilitating this process among its other duties (see Charter section 5.2, 2nd bullet). The BOT must answer the advice in written form and publish it on the ISOC webpage for public view to provide transparency to the whole process. It has been noted that no formal advice has been submitted to (or received from) the Board for a considerable period. -ed On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 10:31?PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Regarding your specific questions re ChAC Luis, in addition to email > lists and ChAC Reps being often active on the CH-delegates list, the ChAC > as an entity meets, as a plenary (with all ChAC Reps) 4 times a year (once > a calendar quarter) and the report/update to the BoT occurs at the BoT > meeting immediately after that plenary session, (often only days later in > fact), BUT of course anything urgent or time critical can and would be > transmitted intersessional to the calendar cadence of BoT gatherings... > > Additionally, the ChAC Steering Committee meets monthly, and not only any > ongoing transmitted to the BoT or urgent new issues are discussed, > reviewed, and, if needed, action at these more recent meetings (at least > since the end of 2022) an 'always open 24x7' box note system where any > matter for the attention of the ChAC can be raised for between meeting note > and action; as well as a separate open to ChAC Reps box note where any > suggestions for topics and activities for future ChAC plenaries can be > proposed is in operation. > > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr > about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr > > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 12:55, 66499 via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Dear Veni, Theo, Win, All, >> >> Thanks for your responses. Maybe we are not asking the right questions to >> ourselves. What is the ISOC we imagine, the one we need and what is >> possible to have ? Somehow we got in the slow lane, how many meetings the >> ChAC has in a year ? How long it takes the information to get to the Board >> ? If able, how the board may ask for some action and finally how long it >> takes some change to happen ? That is something we have not figured out how >> to overcome. We are getting speedy responses but that keeps us always >> around the same place. That?s why we need more strategy which needs to be >> figured out from collective thinking. Is it lack of leadership ? I have the >> feeling that if we do not reflect we wont be building that future we would >> like to be at. >> >> Let?s keep the discussion. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Luis >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From flavio at inf.ufrgs.br Thu Apr 11 09:55:37 2024 From: flavio at inf.ufrgs.br (=?UTF-8?Q?Fl=C3=A1vio_Rech_Wagner?=) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 13:55:37 -0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] On more effective engagement (was Re: 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <029e6aa2-9226-4aa2-b0f2-27631552cb58@inf.ufrgs.br> Dear Andrew Thanks for your request to better explain my comment. It is in fact a mix of the possibilities you suggested. There is, indeed, a feeling, which we believe is also shared with at least a few other chapter leaders, that there isn't enough space to contribute to ISOC plans and positions from the very beginning. Chapter inputs are seen more as a consultation to check if the ideas previously formulated are okay. We would be first in line to recognize that the staff and the Board are very open to the suggestions we present, but this usually happens through direct conversations, rather than through a structured dialogue process between the org and the community. We do know that involving such a large number of chapters and groups from scratch is difficult?and many will not properly seize this opportunity, but we also dedicate a lot of our time as volunteers to this work and believe that we would be able to achieve more impactful results with more participation in defining principles and goals, not restricted to few options that were already narrowed down from a much larger universe of possibilities. If the staff and the Board think that this level of deeper involvement would be viable and fruitful, but would like to think together (with the chapters and groups) on how to get there, we would be happy to actively participate in any consultations with the wider ISOC community on the subject. Best, Fl?vio > Hi, > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:13:09AM -0300, Fl?vio Rech Wagner via > Chapter-delegates wrote: > >> And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to engage >> more effectively with the Board and with the senior staff in relevant >> issues, such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, strategies, and >> positions on policy issues. > > The above suggests to me one (or more) of the following possibilities: > > ? that there is some feeling that the consultations that happened over > the course of 2023 that were part of the development of the > soon-to-be-published 2030 strategic plan were not adequate or effective; > > ? that there is some feeling that the policy development process we > have in place does not adequately engage the chapters; > > ? that the engagement on either of the above is sufficient in quantity > but somehow ineffective; > > ? something else. > > It would be extremely helpful to know which of these you're thinking > and any suggestions you might have to make things different.? At the > moment, I understand there is a complaint but I don't know what it is > or what kind of action anyone might take to try to address it. > > Best regards, > > A > -- Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul Instituto de Inform?tica Porto Alegre, Brasil Presidente da Internet Society Brasil flavio at inf.ufrgs.br, info at isoc.org.br https://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasil https://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasil https://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ From langdonorr at gmail.com Thu Apr 11 10:20:44 2024 From: langdonorr at gmail.com (Cheryl Langdon-Orr) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 03:20:44 +1000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Advice request from ISOC Puerto Rico In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Eduardo, thank you for your recent email formally requesting the ChAC action on your ISOC Chapter's Advice Request; this message is simply to note to you that it has been received, read and is being actioned by the ChAC-SC; and that we will keep you, and the various lists you copied the request to updated on this, further over the coming days. Do expect, however, the matters raised to be part of the Agenda for the upcoming Q2 ChAC plenary call on May 21, at 1000 UTC, and at this stage, we assume you may wish to speak to this by way of further introduction to those on the call. Do let us know if you are unavailable at that time. Cheryl Langdon-Orr about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 at 03:04, Eduardo Diaz via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Advisory Committee Members, > > The ISOC Puerto Rico Chapter needs immediate attention from the Chapter > Advisory Council Steering Committee (ChAC-SC). First, the chapter delegate > list must be opened to observers to enhance transparency and understanding > of ongoing discussions concerning ISOC chapters. 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URL: From sullivan at isoc.org Thu Apr 11 11:08:22 2024 From: sullivan at isoc.org (Andrew Sullivan) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 14:08:22 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] On more effective engagement (was Re: 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results) In-Reply-To: <029e6aa2-9226-4aa2-b0f2-27631552cb58@inf.ufrgs.br> References: <029e6aa2-9226-4aa2-b0f2-27631552cb58@inf.ufrgs.br> Message-ID: Hi, On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 01:55:37PM -0300, Fl?vio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates wrote: >There is, indeed, a feeling, which we believe is also shared with at >least a few other chapter leaders, that there isn't enough space to >contribute to ISOC plans and positions from the very beginning. >Chapter inputs are seen more as a consultation to check if the ideas >previously formulated are okay. During the work that was preparatory for the 2023 board retreat, where they worked on the strategic plan, we asked staff at every opportunity they had when speaking to our community to try to get input to the question, "What do you think is the biggest threat to the Internet's future?" We got a lot of great feedback from that, and we carefully parsed and catergorized it so that the board could use it as part of their input for the strategy discussion. So that seems to me to be an example of some of what you're talking about. But you may be suggesting either that the community be part of making the annual plan or that the community be part of building policy positions prior to a PDP. In the former case, I just don't understand how it would work. As it is, annual planning starts each year about now. Prior to this point in the year, the staff are largely involved with working on starting the implementation of the prior annual plan. We have more than 100,000 people in our community and right now about 130 chapters and SIGs. I don't know how to structure "very beginning" input from such a wide group of people without it taking an enormous amoung of time -- the annual planning exercise would have to start in the prior year, just to be ready by the time the board needs to approve it (and its associated budget). In the latter case, it would seem that your view might require changes to the PDP: https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/ If not, then the part where members "flag issues" is already available, and I hope that all our colleagues are indeed flagging such issues and thereby contributing at the very beginning. I've I've misunderstood your intent, please correct me. Thanks. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan, President & CEO, Internet Society e:sullivan at isoc.org m:+1 416 731 1261 Help protect the Internet for everyone: https://www.internetsociety.org/donate/ From flavio at inf.ufrgs.br Fri Apr 12 07:04:05 2024 From: flavio at inf.ufrgs.br (=?UTF-8?Q?Fl=C3=A1vio_Rech_Wagner?=) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 11:04:05 -0300 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] On more effective engagement (was Re: 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results) In-Reply-To: References: <029e6aa2-9226-4aa2-b0f2-27631552cb58@inf.ufrgs.br> Message-ID: Hi Andrew > Hi, > >> There is, indeed, a feeling, which we believe is also shared with at >> least a few other chapter leaders, that there isn't enough space to >> contribute to ISOC plans and positions from the very beginning. >> Chapter inputs are seen more as a consultation to check if the ideas >> previously formulated are okay. > > During the work that was preparatory for the 2023 board retreat, where > they worked on the strategic plan, we asked staff at every opportunity > they had when speaking to our community to try to get input to the > question, "What do you think is the biggest threat to the Internet's > future?"? We got a lot of great feedback from that, and we carefully > parsed and catergorized it so that the board could use it as part of > their input for the strategy discussion. So that seems to me to be an > example of some of what you're talking about. Yes, exactly, and this is the kind of interaction that I mentioned before about the Staff+Board being very open to contributions - but our suggestion is formalizing it a bit more, if this format wouldn't make this type of consultation less effective. > > But you may be suggesting either that the community be part of making > the annual plan or that the community be part of building policy > positions prior to a PDP. Not "making" the annual plan, of course, but at least being heard through more effective mechanisms. Regarding "building policy positions prior to a PDP", well, maybe, although in an indirect way, if there are continuous bidirectional consultations with the community, so that the Board and the staff become aware of the community positions on various relevant issues. > > In the former case, I just don't understand how it would work.? As it > is, annual planning starts each year about now.? Prior to this point > in the year, the staff are largely involved with working on starting > the implementation of the prior annual plan.? We have more than > 100,000 people in our community and right now about 130 chapters and > SIGs.? I don't know how to structure "very beginning" input from such > a wide group of people without it taking an enormous amoung of time -- > the annual planning exercise would have to start in the prior year, > just to be ready by the time the board needs to approve it (and its > associated budget). I fully agree with you that it would be unfeasible to _directly _involve 100,000 people and 130 chapters and SIGs in the preparation of the annual planning. This is related to the last part of the previous message: We think chapters could, possibly, help to plan tools or methods on how to improve ways to get inputs from the community into this process, and the Chapters Advisory Council could be the right place to discuss proposals for such tools or methods. If we don't find a way, at least we tried to, and this would already be greatly appreciated. Of course there is no size fits all since chapters might have different ways to contribute, also depending on the topic. Some prefer to write to the list, others 1:1 time with staff, maybe calls and workshops in different languages, and so on. To understand those nuances is already a big step. Together we could define multiple but convergent paths to effectively being heard in the process. At least it is worth some effort, and even if it doesn?t work 100% immediately, it can be a work in continuous progress, on a joint effort between chapters, the ChAC, the staff, and the Board. We agree that we need to invest time in improving existing processes and human resources allocated to accomplish it. Wouldn?t dare to say it is easy, but it is needed. And thank you for the opportunity to engage in this very productive dialogue. Best, Fl?vio > > In the latter case, it would seem that your view might require changes > to the PDP: > https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/ > If not, then the part where members "flag issues" is already > available, and I hope that all our colleagues are indeed flagging such > issues and thereby contributing at the very beginning. > > I've I've misunderstood your intent, please correct me.? Thanks. > > Best regards, > > A > -- Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul Instituto de Inform?tica Porto Alegre, Brasil Presidente da Internet Society Brasil flavio at inf.ufrgs.br,info at isoc.org.br https://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasil https://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasil https://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mnemonic at gmail.com Fri Apr 12 08:03:14 2024 From: mnemonic at gmail.com (Mike Godwin) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 11:03:14 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] 2024 ISOC Board of Trustees Elections Results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome, newly elected Trustees! Mike Godwin DC Chapter On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 2:00?AM Asrat Beyene via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Congratulations, Maureen and Kathleen! > I wish you all the best. > Regards, > Asrat > ISOC Ethiopia Chapter > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 07:15 Adebunmi Akinbo via Chapter-delegates < > chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > >> Congratulations, Maureen and Kathleen. >> Wishing you the best. >> Regards. >> - Dr. Akinbo, Adebunmi Adeola >> Africa Representative, ChAC. >> >> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 03:07, Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates < >> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: >> >>> Well, information is flowing as well as communication. However, Chapters >>> need to suggest a way (format, frequency, deepness) to get this >>> information. Again, to be more proactive. A simple question, is ChAC a >>> working and useful structure ? If so, ok .. it is what it is. But if not, >>> then how to reform it to be more effective in such a need of information >>> and communication ? >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Luis Martinez >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 9:28?AM Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates < >>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: >>> >>>> By the way, to make sure my words are not misunderstood: I?m not >>>> criticizing the current information flow from the BoT to the chapters. >>>> With that being said, I?ll go back to just reading here. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Veni Markovski >>>> http://www.veni.com >>>> pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com >>>> >>>> >>>> The opinions expressed above are those of the author, >>>> not of any organizations, associated with or related to >>>> the author in any given way. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:43 Veni Markovski wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1, Flavio. >>>>> Also, please, let us know regularly what?s actually happening at the >>>>> Boat, esp. when it concerns the future of the Internet and ISOC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Veni Markovski >>>>> http://www.veni.com >>>>> pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The opinions expressed above are those of the author, >>>>> not of any organizations, associated with or related to >>>>> the author in any given way. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 09:13 Fl?vio Rech Wagner via Chapter-delegates < >>>>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Congratulations, Maureen! I wish you a very successful term as >>>>>> trustee. >>>>>> >>>>>> And I hope you can help increase opportunities for chapters to engage >>>>>> more effectively with the Board and with the senior staff in relevant >>>>>> issues, such as the definition of ISOC?s priorities, strategies, and >>>>>> positions on policy issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Fl?vio R. Wagner >>>>>> ISOC Brazil >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Chapter Leaders: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I wish to >>>>>> extend my appreciation and thanks to all of the candidates for the Board of >>>>>> Trustees elections. We are honored that so many qualified individuals >>>>>> offered to serve on the board. Voting closed on Friday and the election >>>>>> results were certified today, in accordance with the elections timetable. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *CHAPTERS* >>>>>> >>>>>> In the Chapters election, there were two (2) candidates for one (1) >>>>>> seat. Having received the most votes, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a >>>>>> 3-year term as a trustee. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Voter turn-out in the Chapters election was 83.19%. Of the 113 >>>>>> eligible chapters, 94 voted. In accordance with the Procedures for >>>>>> Selecting Trustees >>>>>> , >>>>>> Publication of the Result, Maureen Hilyard received 44 votes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In addition, the Procedures for Selecting Trustees >>>>>> >>>>>> state that, ?ISOC will make available a list of all Chapters >>>>>> eligible to vote in an election, indicating which Chapters exercised their >>>>>> voting privilege.? I am pleased to share that list with you (attached to >>>>>> this email). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *ORGANIZATION MEMBERS* >>>>>> >>>>>> In the Organization Members election there were four (4) candidates >>>>>> for one (1) seat. Having received the highest weighted vote counts, >>>>>> Kathleen Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term as a trustee. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Voter turn-out in the Organization Members election was 58.02%. Of >>>>>> the 81 eligible Organization Members, 47 voted. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please join me in congratulating the successful candidates and >>>>>> thanking all who ran. I also wish to thank all voters, members of the >>>>>> Elections Committee, and ISOC staff who supported the elections process. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Election challenges may be lodged between now and 15:00 UTC on 15 >>>>>> April by email to the Internet Society President Andrew Sullivan at the >>>>>> address election-challenge at isoc.org. Any such challenges must >>>>>> include an explanation of the reasons for the challenge. The President, >>>>>> after consultation with the chairs of the Nominations and Elections >>>>>> Committees and the members of the Board of Trustees, shall advise the >>>>>> challenge author of the board's decision by 22 April. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, thanks to all who participated in the 2024 Board of Trustees >>>>>> elections. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Victor Kuarsingh >>>>>> >>>>>> 2024 Elections Committee Chair >>>>>> >>>>>> Internet Society >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>>>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>>>>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Prof. Fl?vio Rech Wagner >>>>>> >>>>>> Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul >>>>>> Instituto de Inform?tica >>>>>> Porto Alegre, Brasil >>>>>> >>>>>> Presidente da Internet Society Brasilflavio at inf.ufrgs.br, info at isoc.org.brhttps://www.isoc.org.br Twitter: @ISOCBrasilhttps://www.facebook.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.youtube.com/isocbrasilhttps://www.instagram.com/isocbrasil/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/isoc-brasil/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically >>>>>> subscribed >>>>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet >>>>>> Society Chapter Portal (AMS): >>>>>> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login >>>>>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >>>>>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. >>>> - >>>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >>>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >>> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. >>> - >>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society >> Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. >> - >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: >> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ >> > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. > - > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Organizations and institutions may apply for funding up to US$500,000. *The application period closes at 21:00 UTC on May 14th, 2024*. *PRESENTERS* *Maiko Nakagaki* - Senior Program Officer, ISOC Foundation *Upasana Hembram -* Associate Program Officer, ISOC Foundation HOST/FACILITATOR *Innocent Adriko* - Program Coordinator, ISOC Foundation *VIDEO: https://archive.org/details/isoc-foundation-research2024 * (EN/FR/ES/DE/AR/RU/ZH) *AUDIO: https://archive.org/download/isoc-foundation-research2024/isoc-foundation-research2024.mp3 * *TRANSCRIPT: https://archive.org/download/isoc-foundation-research2024/isoc-foundation-research2024_TRANSCRIPT.pdf * *TWITTER #ResearchGrant @ISOC_Foundation @mn1207 @watzernehm* *2023 Program Impact Report https://www.isocfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/20240301_Research.pdf * *Permalink https://isoc.live/17652 *[image: https://isoc.live/17652] - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On April 1st, the UN Secretary-General's Envoy on Technology released the ?*Zero Draft *? of the proposed *United Nations Global Digital Compact * (GDC). The final text will be annexed to the Pact for the Future to be adopted at the Summit of the Future in New York on 22-23 September 2024. The preparatory process involved multiple UN reports, proposals and consultations about global digital governance and cooperation. Some of these proposals got support, while others have proven to be highly controversial forays into sensitive policy spaces in which the international community is often deeply divided. The resulting Zero Draft reflects these dynamics. It includes proposals for new organizational structures and policy processes on such issues as artificial intelligence, digital public infrastructure, digital human rights, connectivity, information integrity, crossborder data flows and the system-wide coordination of UN digital work. On April 5th, the UN commences a series of intergovernmental and stakeholder consultations to help evolve a final text that can serve as a consensus landing zone. How are the hot button issues reflected in the Zero Draft? Does the document suggest a different interplay between intergovernmental decision-making and multistakeholder participation? How might the proposed enhanced roles of the Secretariat in New York impact existing UN organizations and processes, including the Internet Governance Forum? Are the proposed new mechanisms likely to be fit for purpose and serve as effective responses to the rapidly evolving global environment? Or could these mechanisms be hobbled by the same international political differences and dynamics that have confounded previous global digital governance initiatives? This webinar assembles a panel of leading experts from the private sector, Internet technical community and civil society stakeholder groups to consider these and other questions. As always, the panelists? conversation will be followed by an open dialogue among all webinar participants. The session is simulcast live under the auspices of the Internet Society New York Chapter (ISOC-NY). *INTRODUCTION* *Eli Noam*, Director, Columbia Institute for Tele-Information, Columbia Business School. *PANEL* *Chris Buckridge* - IGF MAG *Anriette Esterhuysen* - Senior Advisor for Internet Governance, Association for Progressive Communications (APC) *Timea Suto* - Global Digital Policy Lead, International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) *MODERATOR* *William J. Drake*, Director of International Studies, Columbia Institute for Tele-Information *LIVESTREAM http://livestream.com/internetsociety/citi-gdc * *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/3xFl2xt * *REAL TIME TEXT* (See *ISOC.LIVE * ) *TWITTER #GlobalDigitalCompact @wjdrake @Elinoam @_buckr Anriette Esterhuysen @APC_News Timea Suto @iccwbo @Columbia_Biz #netgov* *MASTODON #GlobalDigitalCompact * *SIMULCASTS* *https://www.twitter.com/ISOC_Live/ * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ *(AI Captions) *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/citi-gdc * Permalink https://isoc.live/17656 -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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REAL TIME TEXT https://bit.ly/3w1NUiP > > Also, real time text of the April 5 UN Meeting is here > https://bit.ly/3Jlj4oE > > > Read on blog or Reader > > > > > On *Tuesday April 16, 2024*, at *11:00-12:30 EDT* (15:00-16:30 UTC), the *Columbia > Institute for Tele-Information > *, > as part of its *Global Digital Governance series > *, > presents a webinar '*The UN's Global Digital Compact: Considerations on > the Zero Draft > * > '. > > On April 1st, the UN Secretary-General's Envoy on Technology released the ?*Zero > Draft > *? > of the proposed *United Nations Global Digital Compact > * (GDC). > The final text will be annexed to the Pact for the Future to be adopted at > the Summit of the Future in New York on 22-23 September 2024. The > preparatory process involved multiple UN reports, proposals and > consultations about global digital governance and cooperation. Some of > these proposals got support, while others have proven to be highly > controversial forays into sensitive policy spaces in which the > international community is often deeply divided. The resulting Zero Draft > reflects these dynamics. It includes proposals for new organizational > structures and policy processes on such issues as artificial intelligence, > digital public infrastructure, digital human rights, connectivity, > information integrity, crossborder data flows and the system-wide > coordination of UN digital work. On April 5th, the UN commences a series of > intergovernmental and stakeholder consultations to help evolve a final text > that can serve as a consensus landing zone. > > How are the hot button issues reflected in the Zero Draft? Does the > document suggest a different interplay between intergovernmental > decision-making and multistakeholder participation? How might the proposed > enhanced roles of the Secretariat in New York impact existing UN > organizations and processes, including the Internet Governance Forum? Are > the proposed new mechanisms likely to be fit for purpose and serve as > effective responses to the rapidly evolving global environment? Or could > these mechanisms be hobbled by the same international political differences > and dynamics that have confounded previous global digital governance > initiatives? > > This webinar assembles a panel of leading experts from the private sector, > Internet technical community and civil society stakeholder groups to > consider these and other questions. As always, the panelists? conversation > will be followed by an open dialogue among all webinar participants. > > The session is simulcast live under the auspices of the Internet Society > New York Chapter (ISOC-NY). > > *INTRODUCTION* > *Eli Noam*, Director, Columbia Institute for Tele-Information, Columbia > Business School. > > *PANEL* > *Chris Buckridge* - IGF MAG > *Anriette Esterhuysen* - Senior Advisor for Internet Governance, > Association for Progressive Communications (APC) > *Timea Suto* - Global Digital Policy Lead, International Chamber of > Commerce (ICC) > > *MODERATOR* > *William J. Drake*, Director of International Studies, Columbia Institute > for Tele-Information > > *LIVESTREAM http://livestream.com/internetsociety/citi-gdc > * > > *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/3xFl2xt > * > > *REAL TIME TEXT* (See *ISOC.LIVE > * > ) > > *TWITTER #GlobalDigitalCompact > @wjdrake > @Elinoam @_buckr Anriette Esterhuysen @APC_News Timea Suto @iccwbo > @Columbia_Biz #netgov* > > *MASTODON #GlobalDigitalCompact > * > > *SIMULCASTS* > *https://www.twitter.com/ISOC_Live/ > * > *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive > * > *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ > *(AI > Captions) > > *ARCHIVE* > *https://archive.org/details/citi-gdc > * > Permalink https://isoc.live/17656 > > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie +12185659365 > -------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. > - > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -- *Nazar(ius) Nicholas Kirama* *President & Chief Executive Officer* *Internet Society Tanzania Chapter (ISOC-Tz)* *"The Internet i**s for Everyone, when it is available, affordable, and meaningful for everyone "* *..................................................................* *National Coordinator * *Tanzania Internet Governance Forum (TzIGF)* *......................................* *ICT Consultant & Trainer * *AI Expert(Ethics)* *IEEE Member#96674695* *Certified Business Coach (ICF) * E:nnicholaski at gmail.com *Professional Affiliations: **||IEEE: Membership#96674695**||ICANN-UASG|| Web Foundation|| IGF|| **Entrepreneurs Wealth Academy|| Tanzania Federation of Green Revolution|| AFRINIC Community Advocate* ______________________________________________ *Clubs/Associations Affiliation: Founder Member of Roots&Shoots-**The Dr. Jane Goodall's Global Youth Program, **member @PMA,IMA WSPCA, WCST, **The Internet Society**,**International Coaching Federation.* ______________________________________ *Joshua1:8 @**Haggai 2:8 **@Deuteronomy 8:17-18* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The UA view from USA I like that I can call it AU UA :) It has human captioning https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=AmericanU There is another UA event on Friday, out of ISOC Hyderabad https://isoc.live/17666/ Read on blog or Reader On *Tuesday April 16 2024* at *5:00pm-6:30pm EDT* (21:00-22:30 UTC) American University's *Tech, Law & Security Program * , *Internet Governance Lab *, and *Inclusive Tech Policy Initiative * host a panel discussion 'Universal Acceptance - What it is and how it relates to digital inclusivity?'. Have you ever tried signing up for a website or serve, only to get frustrated because it won't accept your email or continues to give you an error message? Maybe it has too many character or has symbols that aren't accepted? Universal Acceptance seeks to solve this problem so that no matter the language. characters, or script, every email address and domain name are accepted without discrimination. An expert panel will discuss this little-known issue that fundamentally impacts the ability for many people to engage online in an authentic and user-friendly manner. A live simulcast will be provide by the *Internet Society US Washington DC Chapter * (ISOC-DC). *SPEAKERS* *Susan Chalmers*, Internet Policy Specialist, National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) *Rick Wilhelm*, Chief Technology Officer, Public Interest Registry (PIR) *Theresa Swinehart*, Senior VP, Global Domains and Strategy, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *Joe Catapano*, Stakeholder Engagement Director ? North America & Global Academia, ICANN *LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/au-ua * *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/3Q6yEs2 * *REAL TIME TEXT* (see *ISOC.LIVE* ) *TWITTER #UniversalAcceptance @TechLawSec @AUWCL @InternetGov @AUInclusiveTech @NTIAgov @ICANN @Verisign @PIRegistry @UASGTech* *MASTODON #UniversalAcceptance * *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ * *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/au-ua * Permalink https://isoc.live/17661/ - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I thought i was keeping count on these webinars, but they are too multitudinous! REAL TIME TEXT https://bit.ly/3Uo1kzk Read on blog or Reader [image: ISOC LIVE] On *Thursday April 18 2024* at *09:00-10:30 UTC* the *African Network Information Centre *(AFRINIC) presents another episode in its *2024 AFRINIC Webinar series *, with the theme '*Exploring African ccTLDs: Trends, Challenges, and Opportunities * '. In recent years, the digital landscape in Africa has been rapidly evolving, with the Internet playing a pivotal role in shaping socio-economic development across the continent. One pivotal aspect of this evolution is the use of Country Code Top-Level Domains (ccTLDs). ccTLDs is crucial in defining a nation's online presence and digital identity. This webinar delves into the trends, challenges, and opportunities surrounding African ccTLDs, shedding light on their significance in the continent's digital journey. *SPEAKERS* *Barrack Otieno* - General Manager, Africa Top Level Domains Organization (AFTLD) *Yazid Akanoh* - Technical Engagement Specialist for Middle East and Africa, ICANN. *Lucky Masilela* - Chief Executive Officer, ZA Central Registry NPC *Albert Kamga* - Director of Standardisation and Cooperation , ANTIC Moderator: *Stephen Honlue *- Project Manager and Transformation Lead, AFRINIC *LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/afrinic2024-cctld * *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/3xE7IcP * *REAL TIME TEXT (See ISOC.LIVE )* *TWITTER #cctld #AFRINIC @mhonlue @AFRINIC @otienobarrack @aftld @yakanho @ICANN @Ngagaru @ZA_CR Albert Kamga @antic_cameroun * *MASTODON #afrinic * *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ * *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/afrinic2024-cctld * Permalink https://isoc.live/17698/ -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are looking for professionals who? * Reside in Africa. * Actively participate in or work towards the development of IXPs. * Are involved in Internet peering policy, business, and technical matters in their respective country/region. * Have a basic understanding of how the Internet works and practical experience in networking using dynamic routing protocols. * Have a firm understanding of Unix/Linux and basic DNS, as well as caching/resolving DNS servers, networking, and command-line Unix. * Have reliable access to a broadband Internet connection and relevant device(s). * Will commit to participating fully in this 4-month experience. * Are proficient in English. If you or someone you know meet the criteria, apply or share this opportunity before 8 May 2024 at 23:59 UTC. We are thankful to our organizstion members and sponsors, LINX and DE-CIX, for supporting this first iteration of the AfPIF Fellowship. ? 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In *The Secret Life of Data *, authors Aram Sinnreich and Jesse Gilbert explore the many unpredictable, and often surprising, ways in which data surveillance, AI, and the constant presence of algorithms impact our culture and society in the age of global networks. Their basic premise: no matter what form data takes, and what purpose we think it's being used for, data will always have a secret life. How this data will be used, by other people in other times and places, has profound implications for every aspect of our lives?from our intimate relationships to our professional lives to our political systems. *SPEAKERS* *Aram Sinnreich* - Chair, Communication Studies, American University *Jesse Gilbert* - interdisciplinary artist, Dark Matter Media *MODERATOR* *Laura DeNardis* - Director, Center for Digital Ethics, Georgetown University in Washington *LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/secretlifeofdata * *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/448VtRx * *REAL TIME TEXT* (see *ISOC.LIVE * ) *TWITTER #secretlifeofdata @aram @jesgilbert @LauraDeNardis* *MASTODON #secretlifeofdata @aram at aoir.social jesse at socialserver.science* *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ * *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/secretlifeofdata * -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Currently, the governance of the foundation > is separate from the governance of the ISOC board and it has > independent committees, reports, and strategy development.? The same > individuals are, however, on both boards.? There has been periodic > discussion of whether that should change; given the recent change in > the scope of the Foundation?s work as a supporting organization, the > board does not intend to make this change now.? It is, instead, > considering whether to add outside advisors to the Foundation?s > Strategic Advisory Committee; this would require a change to the > charter (the current charter is available here: > https://www.isocfoundation.org/board-of-trustees/committees/strategic-advisory-committee/ > ).? > If we move forward with this, these outside advisors would share these > duties with the Trustee members of the committee: > > * > > Provide advice on Foundation-wide and program area strategy to the > Executive Director, as requested; > > * > > Provide advice to the Executive Director on questions and metrics > for the Foundation?s programs; > > * > > Review progress on the Foundation?s programs once every quarter > with the Executive Director and provide advice based on emerging > insights; > > * > > Provide other strategic advice, as requested by the Executive > Director. > > The board believes that this step might help provide beneficial > outside perspectives without requiring the outside advisors to be > deeply involved in the work of the Foundation as a supporting > organization. > Thank you for discussing this. It is very helpful. You mention a ?recent change in the scope of the Foundation?s work as a supporting organization?.Could you please explain this? Was this announced? Regarding the governance proposals you shared, I fail to understand how these are likely to improve the five pillars of Governance which are Accountability, Fairness, Transparency, Oversight and Independence. The Foundation should have these five pillars at its core and right now the structure fails to show that. The use of ?outside advisors? is very surprising because by their very position of being ?outside? and ?advisors? there is nothing in what they are saying that could hold any weight when the ?advice? they provide runs counter to the wishes of the people they advise. Funnelling all advisors through the Executive Director concentrates influence and authority in that single role, creating a potential vulnerability or point of excessive control, thus there is no kind of transparency, oversight or independence with this set-up. The only point that might be fulfilled by having outside advisors might be ?fairness? but that?s only one of the five pillars. It is imperative that the Trustees recognize the potential risks they expose themselves to by adhering to a governance framework that exhibits such structural deficiencies for an organisation dedicated to project financing. Has a risk analysis, a bottom-line entry level governance litmus test, even been considered with the current set-up? We look forward to seeing future plans of the Board in relation to the Internet Society Foundation. > The ISOC UK also asked a question about CEO renewal. The board > recognizes that strong leadership is critical to advancing Internet > Society?s mission and it has had CEO Succession plans in place since > Kathy Brown's tenure as CEO.? The CEO Succession Planning Committee is > the group currently charged to consider CEO renewal, and it has worked > since its inception to ensure that a strong leadership continuity plan > is in place to enable ISOC to continue its work in now and in the > future.? The committee continuously maintains a CEO profile, > identifies and develops ISOC?s talent base, and updates and > prioritizes key skills and capabilities essential for leadership in > our industry and in furthering our mission.? The CEO committee > recently gave a report to the board, and the board continues to > consider it.? We will provide further updates on that in due course.? > I will add, however, that the composition of the committee (and all of > the committees) is based on a balance of factors, including the > committee workloads of individual members. As a quick look at the > overlapping requirements and exclusions for the different Internet > Society shows, assignment to committees can be difficult. ? All > recommendations from the committee are reviewed and approved by the > full board, however, and this will continue to be the case. > Unfortunately you did not appear to answer the question in relation to the CEO renewal. By Andrew?s own admission, his term will end this summer, at which point an offer will be made to renew or a search for a replacement should start as soon as possible. Such searches don?t happen quickly. With four months to go until August 2024, there is very little time, unless an interim CEO will be appointed. I am surprised that, in response to the question, the Board has not committed to the points we have made in question 1.4. Neither have you provided a response to question 1.3.2. Lastly, there does not appear to be a process in place yet on the Board in regards to the decision on the CEO - questions 1.6 and 1.7. With only a few months to go, surely it would be good practice to be ready? > > The ISOC UK chapter asked about the five year plan for ISOC.? You may > recall that there were a series of consultations on this topic last > year, and I am happy to report that the 5 year strategy was approved > at the most recent board meeting.? Staff are developing the materials > for the distribution of the 5 year strategy now, and I anticipate that > those will be available within a few weeks. > There are several points we would like to make about this: Firstly, the consultations, it would have been helpful to have these consultations opened up as fora, for the community members to be able to discuss their proposals openly rather than having sessions where only the Board received feedback. Perhaps I missed this, but some of the decisions that were made by the Board appear to be more and more secretive. Previously consultations were much more open. Why is the five year plan not in a form that is ready for consumption by the community?? I find it unusual that the Board approves something that has not been made available to the community first and thus does not know what the Board has approved - it appears that Board members are not even allowed to speak about the plan. I recently learned the Board of Trustees will share the 2030 Strategy with Organisational Members on May 7th in 'A Conversation with the Internet Society's Board of Trustees.' However, there's been no announcement to share the strategy with Chapters yet. Despite recent interactions with the Board and Executives, wouldn't it be wise to align Chapters with the Board's actions? I am really concerned about the secrecy that is embedding itself in Internet Society processes. The culture was, from the very beginning, one of open collaboration and processes - reflecting the culture of the Internet. Everything was shared, unless there was a specific reason to keep it confidential.. Unfortunately I can?t help feeling that the Internet Society has slid year on year, to run its processes with a different default: unless something needs to be shared (in which case it will be formatted for sharing), information is going to remain confidential. This appears to be a culture change. Is this the feeling of Board members too? Now there appear to be more closed Board meetings than open meetings. We accept there is need for confidentiality for a period over some issues such as personal and time sensitive data but are concerned over increasing obscurity in processes, decision making, evidence and community engagement This is putting a great strain on the Chapter-selected Board members. Are they able to reach out to the Chapter community? Can they speak to Chapters openly? It seems that because so much is happening in confidence within the Board and because the overall mood at that level is that of fear, Board members are scared to say anything for fear of betraying something confidential that?s being discussed by the Board. Is this the kind of environment we want for an organisation that preaches open collaboration? Shouldn?t the Internet Society actively practise what it preaches in its governance processes? > The ISOC New York chapter asked if the board were willing to dedicate > a specific amount of time at each meeting to listening to the > chapters.? The board believes that open forums or community > consultations should include all parts of the community and that these > are generally more useful when they focus on a specific > mission-related topic.? The board intends to hold an open forum as > part of the 5 year strategy release, and it is open to suggestions > from the community on other mission-related topics for future open forums. > > The ISOC UK chapter asked about the I* coordination efforts.? As > Andrew noted, there are ongoing staff interactions among the different > organizations, and the CEO-level interactions are limited to moments > when there is a specific challenge.? The board is not aware of any > previous occasion in which the boards of these organizations have > jointly developed a strategy or action plan, and we do not see a > challenge rising to that level of joint action at this time. > It is unfortunate that the Internet Society does not appear to have records of the I* interactions which showed a unified front in the face of the critics/threats of the time. I can point you to a few examples: * Letter to IEG Chair regarding 3rd draft of ITU SGS report for WTPFhttps://www.nro.net/letter-to-ieg-chair-regarding-3rd-draft-of-itu-sgs-report-for-5th-wtpf/ * Internet Technical Leaders Welcome IANA Globalization Progresshttps://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/release-internet-technical-leaders-welcome-iana-globalization-progress-14-3-2014-en * Joint Statement from ISOC/ICANN Meetinghttps://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/joint-statement-from-isoc--icann-meeting-20-12-2014-en If you are looking for ?challenges? for the respective organisations to come into action, whilst the usual ?suspect? the ITU is focussing on its own work thanks to the excellent work of its Secretary General Doreen Bogdan-Martin (and her colleagues), there are plenty of other fundamental topics which require a united front at the highest level and right now I do not see that leadership taking place: * Netmundial +10 - in the original Netmundial the I* organisations collaborated together to shape the preparations to make it a success. What is ISOC doing at present to help shape Netmundial +10 be a success? * WSIS+20: a fundamental process which requires the help and support of all I* organisations. I understand that each organisation, by itself, has varying levels of support for WSIS+20 but it feels like the organisations are more passengers than drivers in the process? and what happens if the WSIS+20 ship hits an iceberg and sinks? * The UN Global Digital Compact: you may like it or you may oppose it. My understanding is that many I* organisations are treating this process with suspicion. Is there any kind of coordination in relation to the potential repercussions of such a process happening at the UN? * The Internet We Want: The High Level IGF Leadership Panel at the IGF composed by Global eminent members ( https://www.intgovforum.org/en/content/igf-leadership-panel-members ) ran a consultation on a position paper they published about ?The Internet We Want? - an excellent set of values and characteristics that need to be defended for the Internet to continue its mission to connect everyone together. The I* organisations, including the Internet Society (which by the way had published its ?Internet Invariants? ( https://www.internetsociety.org/policybriefs/internetinvariants/ ) appeared to be completely absent from this - and definitely completely uncoordinated. Sadly, the last one was a missed opportunity. I hope the I* will not miss other opportunities. I am concerned that everyone is now resting with a sense of status quo. There is no such thing as a status quo. The world is evolving very fast and if the I* organisations sit in a status quo then one day the whole system on which the Internet is built will disappear. > The ISOC UK chapter asked about the financial reporting from the > Internet Society.? The board believes ISOC is reporting its financials > in line with regulatory requirements and accepted practice.? The board > also notes that the Internet Society made significant changes to > ensure that resources could be shared across projects, to reduce > duplication of effort.? Instituting cross-charging or other > time-tracking efforts to produce detailed project-based reporting > seems, at least at this point in time, like it might lose some of > those gains. > Whilst the UK Chapter commends the Internet Society Board of Trustees for its thrifty use of resources, we are surprised to learn that including more details in the published accounts would result in an increase in costs. > As the board continues its discussion, I or another member of the > board will continue to provide updates.? Thanks again for your > engagement and for your dedication to the vision and mission of the > Society. > > best regards, > > Ted Hardie Thank you Ted. We look forward to the Board's attention in the matters we are raising. Kindest regards, Olivier MJ Cr?pin-Leblond, PhD Chair - Internet Society UK England Chapter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It was one of the most important developments in the digital history of the 20th century. Digitalization has been the engine behind the rise of the Chinese economy, lifting millions out of poverty. Today, China has 1.050 billion Internet users, or 20% of the global Internet population. China displays a vibrant digital economy and is home to many leading digital companies. In less than two decades, however, telecommunications and mobile technology became the first well-established fields of geopolitical rivalry between the US and China. This dispute for leadership is spreading through a vast array of so-called ?critical and emerging technologies?, including artificial intelligence. Tension is rising between the two digital powers, and measures have been put in place to restrict access to each other?s digital markets. *SPEAKERS* *Jovan Kurbalija*, Director of Diplo & Head of Geneva Internet Platform *Lee Xiaodong*, Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Fuxi Institution & Professor, Tsinghua University *Liu Hao*, Acting Chair, School of Global Governance, Beijing Institute of Technology *Rogier Creemers*, Assistant Professor and Lecturer in Modern Chinese Studies, University of Leiden *Sorina Teleanu*, Director of Knowledge, Diplo Moderator: *Marilia Maciel*, Head of Digital Commerce and Internet Policy, Diplo *LIVESTREAM* *https://livestream.com/internetsociety/diplo-china30 * *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/3Q5DK7R * *REAL TIME TEXT https://bit.ly/3UoCqzq * *TWITTER #ChinaInternet30 @DiplomacyEdu @FuxiInstitution @jovankurbalija @Xiaodong_Lee Liu Hao @BIT1940 Rogier Creemers @China_Digital Sorina Teleanu @MariliaM* *MASTODON #ChinaInternet30 * *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ * Permalink https://isoc.live/17708 -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Following the process documented in RFC 3677, the Internet Architecture Board (IAB), on behalf of the Internet Engineering Task Force, has re-selected Brian Haberman and selected Russ Housley to serve on the Internet Society board for 3-year terms. The terms for all four trustees will commence with the Internet Society Board of Trustees 2024 Annual General Meeting on 22-23 June in Reston, Virginia. This information is also publicly available on ISOC?s website here . On behalf of the Elections Committee, I would like to congratulate the new and re-appointed trustees and express our gratitude once more to all the candidates, the members of the Nominations Committee and Elections Committee, the IAB, and to everyone who participated in the process this year. Best regards, Victor Kuarsingh 2024 Elections Committee Chair Internet Society -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hipouia at gmail.com Fri Apr 19 10:33:14 2024 From: hipouia at gmail.com (Luis Martinez) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 11:33:14 -0600 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Final Results of ISOC Board Elections and IEFT Selections In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations Brian and Russ for you new appointment. Luis On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 11:09 Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates < chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote: > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I am pleased to > announce the final results of the 2024 elections and the IETF selections > for the Board of Trustees. > > > > Voting concluded on 5 April. The results were announced and the challenge > period opened on 8 April. The deadline to file challenges was 15 April at > 15:00 UTC. No challenges were filed; therefore, the election results > announced on 8 April stand. > > > > In the Chapters election, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a 3-year > term. > > > > In the Organization Members election, Kathleen Moriarty has been elected > to a 3-year term. > > > > Following the process documented in RFC 3677, the Internet Architecture > Board (IAB), on behalf of the Internet Engineering Task Force, has > re-selected Brian Haberman and selected Russ Housley to serve on the > Internet Society board for 3-year terms. > > > > The terms for all four trustees will commence with the Internet Society > Board of Trustees 2024 Annual General Meeting on 22-23 June in Reston, > Virginia. > > > > This information is also publicly available on ISOC?s website here > > . > > > > On behalf of the Elections Committee, I would like to congratulate the new > and re-appointed trustees and express our gratitude once more to all the > candidates, the members of the Nominations Committee and Elections > Committee, the IAB, and to everyone who participated in the process this > year. > > > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. > - > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From veni at veni.com Fri Apr 19 10:41:29 2024 From: veni at veni.com (Veni Markovski) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 13:41:29 -0400 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Final Results of ISOC Board Elections and IEFT Selections In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <999eb2d4-bc17-49fe-8497-cc9774152fe5@veni.com> Full congrats are now due :) Dear Maureen and Kathleen, On behalf of the Internet Society - Bulgaria, congratulations on being elected, and best wishes for a successful term on the BoT! Sincerely, Veni Chair of the Board https://www.isoc.bg P.S.I only hope that someone can convey them to Kathleen, as I think she's not on this list. On 4/19/24 13:08, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I am pleased to > announce the final results of the 2024 elections and the IETF > selections for the Board of Trustees. > > Voting concluded on 5 April. The results were announced and the > challenge period opened on 8 April. The deadline to file challenges > was 15 April at 15:00 UTC. No challenges were filed; therefore, the > election results announced on 8 April stand. > > In the Chapters election, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a 3-year > term. > > In the Organization Members election, Kathleen Moriarty has been > elected to a 3-year term. > > Following the process documented in RFC 3677, the Internet > Architecture Board (IAB), on behalf of the Internet Engineering Task > Force, has re-selected Brian Haberman and selected Russ Housley to > serve on the Internet Society board for 3-year terms. > > The terms for all four trustees will commence with the Internet > Society Board of Trustees 2024 Annual General Meeting on 22-23 June in > Reston, Virginia. > > This information is also publicly available on ISOC?s websitehere > . > > On behalf of the Elections Committee, I would like to congratulate the > new and re-appointed trustees and express our gratitude once more to > all the candidates, the members of the Nominations Committee and > Elections Committee, the IAB, and to everyone who participated in the > process this year. > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > > > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS):https://community.internetsociety.org. > - > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct:https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -- Best regards, Veni https://www.veni.com pgp:5BA1366Eveni at veni.com The opinions expressed above are those of the author, not of any organizations, associated with or related to him in any given way. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drhipo at me.com Fri Apr 19 13:48:34 2024 From: drhipo at me.com (drhipo at me.com) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:48:34 -0600 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Final Results of ISOC Board Elections and IEFT Selections In-Reply-To: <999eb2d4-bc17-49fe-8497-cc9774152fe5@veni.com> References: <999eb2d4-bc17-49fe-8497-cc9774152fe5@veni.com> Message-ID: Dear Veni, As far as I know Kathleen is not active on this list as she was elected by the Organizational Members. Never seen Maureen around here but sure both will get your message. Best Regards, Luis Prof. Luis M Mart?nez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of Trustees Internet Society On 19 Apr 2024 11:41 -0600, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates , wrote: > Full congrats are now due :) > > Dear Maureen and Kathleen, > On behalf of the Internet Society - Bulgaria, congratulations on being elected, and best wishes for a successful term on the BoT! > > Sincerely, > Veni > Chair of the Board > https://www.isoc.bg > > P.S.I only hope that someone can convey them to Kathleen, as I think she's not on this list. > > On 4/19/24 13:08, Victor Kuarsingh via Chapter-delegates wrote: > > Dear Chapter Leaders: > > > > On behalf of the Internet Society Elections Committee, I am pleased to announce the final results of the 2024 elections and the IETF selections for the Board of Trustees. > > > > Voting concluded on 5 April. The results were announced and the challenge period opened on 8 April. The deadline to file challenges was 15 April at 15:00 UTC. No challenges were filed; therefore, the election results announced on 8 April stand. > > > > In the Chapters election, Maureen Hilyard has been elected to a 3-year term. > > > > In the Organization Members election, Kathleen Moriarty has been elected to a 3-year term. > > > > Following the process documented in RFC 3677, the Internet Architecture Board (IAB), on behalf of the Internet Engineering Task Force, has re-selected Brian Haberman and selected Russ Housley to serve on the Internet Society board for 3-year terms. > > > > The terms for all four trustees will commence with the Internet Society Board of Trustees 2024 Annual General Meeting on 22-23 June in Reston, Virginia. > > > > This information is also publicly available on ISOC?s website?here. > > > > On behalf of the Elections Committee, I would like to congratulate the new and re-appointed trustees and express our gratitude once more to all the candidates, the members of the Nominations Committee and Elections Committee, the IAB, and to everyone who participated in the process this year. > > > > Best regards, > > Victor Kuarsingh > > 2024 Elections Committee Chair > > Internet Society > > > > _______________________________________________ > > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. > > - > > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > > -- > > Best regards, > Veni > https://www.veni.com > pgp:5BA1366E veni at veni.com > > The opinions expressed above are those of the > author, not of any organizations, associated > with or related to him in any given way. > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. > - > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[image: ISOC Live] On *April 20, 2024* at *13:30-16:00 AFT* (09:00-11:30 UTC) the *Afghanistan Network Operators Group * (AFNOG) presents a training workshop '*Packet Analysis *'. The fourth in a series of monthly webinars, this event will be in English, and is supported by *APNIC * and the *APNIC Foundation * . *SPEAKER* *Warren Finch*, Senior Network Analyst and Technical Trainer, APNIC *HOST/MODERATOR* *Mohibullah Utmankhil*, Tech Support Engineer, Flexoptix Gmbh *LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/afnog-packetanalysis * *REAL TIME TEXT https://bit.ly/3w31Zwx * *TWITTER Warren Finch #PacketAnalysis @mutmankhil #AFNOG #IPv6 #NetworkOperators @APNIC @ApnicFoundation* *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ * *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/afnog-packetanalysis * Permalink https://isoc.live/17712 -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saegesser at isoc.org Mon Apr 22 05:57:50 2024 From: saegesser at isoc.org (Christine Saegesser) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:57:50 +0000 Subject: [Chapter-delegates] Gentle Reminder: Chapter Communications Training on 23 April (13h and 18h UTC) In-Reply-To: <11EFA769-EF1D-4C55-BE2C-C4FF86A7B450@isoc.org> References: <2E0DC366-CC33-47C9-A56B-44FBE985D30F@isoc.org> <11EFA769-EF1D-4C55-BE2C-C4FF86A7B450@isoc.org> Message-ID: <591D00B7-9F86-40BC-B031-593AC1FF7BCD@isoc.org> Dear Colleagues, This is a gentle reminder of tomorrow?s Chapter Communications Training sessions - see details below. There?s still time to register if you haven?t done so yet. We look forward to seeing you there! Best, Christine On 8 Apr 2024, at 21:29, Christine Saegesser > wrote: Dear Colleagues, As a follow-up to the discussions below and as requested by some of you, we are organising a 60-min Chapter Communications Training Session for chapter leaders. To cover time zones, we?re offering the same session at two different times on 23 April 2024: Session 1: 23 April, 13:00 UTC * Registration Link: https://isoc.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZcpf-Ghpj4sE9ZKMpV_1ufjnzK30U58QMAV Session 2:23 April, 18:00 UTC * Registration Link: https://isoc.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZwpd-GvqDwiGdAqPH0tr8IC8v7w737yJsFM The training will cover: * Chatter Groups: How to communicate and engage with with your chapter?s members (2-way communications) * Post messages * Add attachments * Reply to messages * Configure personal notification settings * Reply via email * Post via email * Sending 1-way email communications to our chapter?s members * Create campaign * Create message * Add recipients * Send message We encourage you to go through my last message (from 28 March) on this topic in the thread below to get prepared for the training. We look forward to seeing many of you on the training calls. They will be recorded for those unable to join. Best, Christine Begin forwarded message: From: Christine Saegesser via Chapter-delegates > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Request for a method to send email to Chapter members. Date: 28 March 2024 at 09:40:19 CET To: ISOC Chapter Delegates > Cc: Joly MacFie >, AMS Support > Reply-To: Christine Saegesser > Dear all, Let me build on earlier messages, trainings and pointers on this list by highlighting that each chapter and special interest group (SIG) also has a Chatter Group available and ready to use for easy communications. These groups exist independently of the more complex 1-way email communications functionality. Chatter Groups: These groups offer a simple way to share messages, engage and have conversations with all chapter members, with additional features such as a polling functionality. This 2-way communications functionality is available to all chapter & SIG leaders and members. Here?s how you get there: * Log into the Community Portal * Go to your profile (?My Profile? page from the top right corner menu or via your profile picture) * Click on ?My Groups? in the lefthand menu: you?ll see the list of chapters and/or special interest groups you?re a member of * Click the green ?Access Group? button It?s that easy to get into your group. From there, you can: * Post messages to all chapter/SIG members directly from the platform * Find the ?Group Email? address under ?Group Details? on the righthand side: you can send messages to this email address from your mail client to reach all members of the group. We recommend saving this address in your mail client?s contacts so you don?t have to go looking for it on the platform each time. * ?Manage your notification" settings by clicking on the corresponding button just below the group logo. If you wish to receive posts in real time, then please make sure this is set to ?Every Post" If you prefer communicating from your mail client rather than via the Community Portal (AMS), this is not a problem. You can respond to chatter group posts directly from your mail client. A 10-min training video around Chatter Groups is available on the Community Training Portal here: https://communitytraining.internetsociety.org/training/chatter-groups/ 1-way email communications In addition to the Chatter Groups, there is a much more powerful (and because of that also more complicated) way of sending 1-way email communications. This functionality has been made available to 2 chapter leaders per chapter (chapters need to give them the role of Communications Officers via the Chapter Leader Portal because specific licenses are needed for this). This functionality was developed based on: * requirements gathered during the selection process, where the participating community representatives asked for more powerful functionality, such as email analytics (delivery, open and bounce rates), which are email marketing / distributed marketing tool functionalities that are not available in simpler emailing systems. This functionality will become available to chapter leaders over the next few months as part of one of the upcoming releases * Chapters asked for the ability to send transactional messages to ALL their members (even if they opted out of promotional emails). This can only be accomplished through a system that allows you to build journeys for both promotional and transactional purposes. This is now possible. * Chapters needed automated email notification options based on member action * Because of the volume of emails sent, ISOC needs a system where its IP reputation can be managed to prevent ISOC or chapter emails from being added to spam lists A 12-min training video around 1-way email communications is available on the Community Training Portal here: https://communitytraining.internetsociety.org/training/send-email-as-chapter-leader/ Alternatively, Joly and Sarah (see in the thread below) have shared written steps to get your emails out. As always, our regional Community Engagement Managers are available to hop on a call with you if you need assistance or would like someone to walk you through process. You can reach them via chapter-support at isoc.org For any bugs or errors, please continue sending those to AMSHelp at isoc.org Best, Christine Christine Saegesser Baethge, Sr. Director Chapters and Special Interest Groups saegesser at isoc.org <7lLtdG5uyz62tLMy7C1sG4AZ0YbGncdFng.png> Discover what we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report ?? Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. On 28 Mar 2024, at 06:14, Amrita Choudhury via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Thank you for this Sarah. I managed to send out a mail to the chapter. However, as a user it seems the system has become more confusing, with additional steps and time consuming (off course I do see more options has been added). Previously using one email ID we could send bulk message to the whole Chapter. Now to send a simple male you have to create a campaign, key in the message, link to the who Chapter data set, etc. Additionally the campaign money option which is mandatory is quite irrelevant for many of us. Also the currency denominator reflects only few currency therefore its redundant to most nations. I hope the team while improvising really looks at simplifying things than complicating it for volunteers from across the world. Regards, Amrita On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:27?AM Sarah Lake > wrote: Hi Amrita Responding here as well for all: The 'Send Email as Chapter Leader' guide an video can be found here: https://communitytraining.internetsociety.org/training/send-email-as-chapter-leader/ Reposting @Joly MacFie's message (thank you!) below as well: 1. Create the Campaign In the Leader Portal, Go to ?Chapter Emails? Select ?Email Campaign? Click ?New? Input a ?Campaign Name? ? mandatory field Input any other information pertaining to the Campaign in the applicable field(s) Select the ?Active? button Hit ?Save? This creates the campaign. 2. Link the Campaign to a Journey Click on Chapter Emails Select ?Email Campaign? Select the Campaign you created Under Campaign Messages select ?Connect Campaign? In the Journey field, start typing your Chapter name (i.e. Washington) and this will bring up your journey options. Select the journey with the ?TR? designation at the end to send a transactional email. NOTE: The journey with no ?TR? designation would be a promotional email that goes to chapter members who have not opted out of communications. Click on ?Save? -- this will take you to a screen where you create the message you want to send. 3. Add Recipients (For sending a message to all members) Go to ?Reports? from the Leader Portal, Click on ?Active Chapter Members? This will bring up all Chapter Members Click the check box beside the Chapter Name Click on the dropdown button next to Export (at the top of the screen) Click on ?Add to Campaign? Select the Campaign to which the email is being sent Click on ?Submit? 4. Create the Message Click on Chapter Emails Select ?Email Campaign? Select the Campaign you created. Click on the preview button (eye) to the right of the subject line. Select a Subject Hover over the Subject Line box, then select ?Click to Edit? to select one of the template subject lines. Hover over the Rich Text Box, then select ?Click to Edit? to enter the text of your message. Once done, Click ?Save & Close? 5. Send the Message Take you back to the Email Campaign screen. Under Campaign Messages, select ?Bulk Send? It will then show you a preview of your message as well as to whom it will be sent. If you?re ready to go, click on ?Send? Hope this helps. Best Regards Sarah Sarah Lake (she/her), Community Engagement Manager, Asia-Pacific lake at isoc.org | Australia, UTC/GMT+10 [https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.freshdesk.com/data/helpdesk/attachments/production/60003658383/original/7lLtdG5uyz62tLMy7C1sG4AZ0YbGncdFng.png?1585130171] Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. Read about work we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report ________________________________ From: Chapter-delegates > on behalf of Amrita Choudhury via Chapter-delegates > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 15:28 To: Joly MacFie >; AMS Support > Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Request for a method to send email to Chapter members. I agree the present system seems to be very confusing. Have been trying to send a mail to the chapter, but not succeeded yet. Could anyone share where the tutorials to send emails are? Regards Amrita On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 2:26?AM Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Hi Levy, Chatter is not bad, somewhat akin to whatsapp with email integration, but, by default, members are set to email digest mode, can even reset their option to 'limited', and I suspect members who are set to 'opt-out' may never see it at all. So, it is not a reliable way to reach your chapter membership. Also, content options are limited. OTOH, an email campaign, with the journey set to TD, will reach every member of your Chapter. Once an email campaign is set up, it's easy to repost to the same campaign without going through all the set up. What isn't clear to me, as yet, is, whether this will reach people who have subsequently joined. Possibly not. Joly On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:16?AM levy syanseke via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Hi Joly, That's what I was referring to. Regards Levy Syanseke Ramah Designs - Founder Internet Society Zambia Chapter - Founding President +260 978 210 494 *God is a Designer* On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, 20:08 Joly MacFie, > wrote: Hi Levy, Are you referring to 'Chatter' ? Joly On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 12:42?PM levy syanseke via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Hi Mohan, I hope this email finds you well. I do understand your frustration and have been through it before. While waiting for the demo video, we learnt we can use an alternative channel within the new AMS. If you have time or any other leader who would like help with communicating using the same feature to communicate to your chapter members. I am available on Tuesday. Do advise, anytime before or after 9:50 UTC - 13:00 UTC. Regards Levy Syanseke Media Studies Tutor | Ramah Designs - Founder Internet Society Zambia Chapter - Founding president Youth IGF Movement - Community Coordinator [https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/53/tools/email-signature-generator/icons/phone-icon.png] +260 978 210 494 [https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/53/tools/email-signature-generator/icons/email-icon.png] lsyanseke at gmail.com God Loves You! On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 4:24?AM K Mohan Raidu via Chapter-delegates > wrote: That traning link itself erroneous. I asked for a one-on-one and step-by-step demo of the emailing. This attitude of the AMS is very irresponsible. There is no method to send emails to Chapter members from the portal. And traning on a non existing feature is futile. Will the demo be arranged or should I esclate it the highest level? K Mohan Raidu President ISOC Hyderabad. +919985033566 On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:32:01 PM GMT+5:30, AMS Helpdesk > wrote: Hi K, ?The correct training link was sent back on 7 March 2024. As we did not receive a reply, the ticket was closed. Please let us now if you are still having trouble accessing this link and training. [https://attachment.freshdesk.com/inline/attachment?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpZCI6NjAxMTAwMzg3NDcsImRvbWFpbiI6Imlzb2NoZWxwLmZyZXNoZGVzay5jb20iLCJhY2NvdW50X2lkIjoxMzE0ODYxfQ.uupAJssu5iI1-ges_5RGAjxV4n2UiIHvfqaW2uOJiX8] On Fri, 22 Mar at 9:17 AM , K Mohan Raidu > wrote: How do close a ticket without attending or resolvinb the issue? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 10:49:58 PM GMT+5:30, AMS Helpdesk > wrote: Dear K Mohan Raidu, Your ticket - Request for a method to send email to Chapter members. - has been closed. We hope that the ticket was resolved to your satisfaction. If you feel that the ticket should not be closed or if the ticket has not been resolved, please reply to this email. 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REALTIME TEXT - https://bit.ly/3UbrwLZ ADD TO CALENDAR https://calndr.link/event/Lv1xFG7WvC Read on blog or Reader [image: ISOC LIVE] On *Wednesday April 24 2024* at *3pm-4pm BST* (09:00-10:00 UTC) the *Aspire to Innovate (a2i) Programme, of the Information and Communication Technology Division of People?s Republic of Bangladesh *, in association with the *DAISY Consortium * presents an international webinar '*The Role of Accessible Digital Reading Materials in Achieving the SDGs & #ZeroDigitalDivide * '. The webinar on the role of accessible digital reading materials for achieving global goals brings together industry experts, advocates, and stakeholders to understand the challenges faced by individuals with print disabilities in the context of accessible reading materials, sharing knowledge and best practices, promoting collaboration among stakeholders, and advocate for policy changes and industry standards that prioritize accessible reading materials, ultimately driving meaningful change in the accessibility landscape for achieving *SDG4.5 and SDG4.a .* This webinar aims to foster dialogue, share insights, and catalyze action toward a more inclusive digital reading environment, aligning with global efforts to reduce the digital divide and promote access to information for all *OPENING REMARKS* *Mollah Mizanur Rahman* , Joint Project Director (Joint Secretary) ,a2i *PANEL* *Dipendra Manocha*, Chair, DAISY Forum - *Born Accessibility and next-generation standardized accessible reading materials* *Hiroshi Kawamura*, Vice President, Assistive Technology Development Organization (ATDO) - *International Laws and Convention regarding accessible information and knowledge and best practices around the world* *Monica Halil L?vblad*, Head, Accessible Books Consortium, WIPO - *Implications of the Marrakesh VIP Treaty, Impact on Global South* *Dr. Monica Duhem*, Director of Global Advocacy Center, G3ict - *Role of the UN in achieving disability-inclusive education in line with SDG*. Moderator: *Richard Orme*, CEO of DAISY Consortium *MULTIMEDIA SHOWCASE* *Vashkar Bhattacharjee*, Innovator *DISCUSSION/Q&A* Moderator: *Richard Orme*, CEO of DAISY Consortium *CLOSING REMARKS* *Mohd. Monirul Islam*, Additional Secretary (attached) (SDG Affairs), Prime Minister's Office (PMO), People?s Republic of Bangladesh The session will be simulcast by the *Accessibility Special Interest group of the Internet Society New York Chapter * . *LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/a2i-reading * *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://undp.zoom.us/j/83899815058 * *REAL TIME TEXT* (see *ISOC.LIVE * ) *TWITTER #ZeroDigitalDivide @a2i_bd @accessibledaisy @MonicaDuhem @G3ict @VashkarBD @UNESCAP @WIPO @ways2read #SDGs #SmartBangladesh2041 #A11y #Accessibility #DigitalInclusion @a11ySIG* *MASTODON #ZeroDigitalDivide * *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ * (AI Captions) *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/a2i-reading * - - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kunle Olorundare* - President, ISOC Nigeria *Priscillia Igba*, Treasurer, ISOC Nigeria (5 minutes) *KEYNOTE - Leadership* *Anna Amooma* - President , ISOC Namibia *PRESENTATIONS* *Munirat Anto Lecky* - Empowering Young Girls *Erica Okibe* - E-Mentoring *Q&A* *ONLINE WRAP UP* (transfer to physical hubs) *LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/isoc-ng-girlsinict2024 * *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/3W9C695 * *TWITTER #GirlsInICT #Nigeria @isocngchapter Ndukwe Kalu Foundation @oj_kunle @AntoLecky* *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ *(AI Captions) *https://twitter.com/isocngchapter *(AI Captions) *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/isoc-ng-girlsinict2024 * - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Read on blog or Reader [image: ISOC LIVE] On *Thursday April 25 2024 Columbia Global Freedom of Expression * (CGFoE) will celebrate its 10th anniversary with a full day event '*Safeguarding Free Expression: The Role of Judicial Systems in Pivotal Times *' at the Italian Academy in NYC. The event will include CGFoE's 2024 Prize Ceremony, and is supported by *UNESCO * through the *Multi-Donor Programme on Freedom of Expression and Safety of Journalists *(MDP) and the *Global Media Defence Fund * (GMDF). *PROGRAM* (All times EDT = UTC-4) *10:00 Opening Session* *Alejandra Negrete Morayta*, Manager of the 2024 CGFoE Prizes *Catalina Botero*, UNESCO Chair on Freedom of Expression at Universidad de los Andes, Colombia *Aryeh Neier*, President Emeritus, Open Society Foundations *10:30 PANEL - Breakthrough Verdicts: Legal Decisions Shaping the UN?s Sustainable Development Goals* *Eduardo Bertoni*, Director of the Center for Human Rights and Humanitarian Law, American University Washington College of Law *Karuna Nundy*, Senior Advocate, Supreme Court of India *Sarah Peeters*, Programme Officer ? Development of the Legal Profession, Pan African Lawyers Union (PALU) *Barbora Bukovsk?*, Senior Director for Law and Policy, ARTICLE 19, UK *Alice Gardoll*, Chief of Staff, Office of Amal Clooney Moderator: *Mehdi Benchelah*, Senior Project Officer ? Freedom of Expression and Safety of Journalists Section ? UNESCO *13:00 BOOK TALK - Truth, Justice, and the Power of Journalism* *Elena Kostyuchenko*, author of I Love Russia: Reporting from a Lost Country *Paul Caruana Galizia*, author of A Death in Malta: An Assassination and a Family?s Quest for Justice Moderator: *Marija ?ajka?*, CGFoE *14:00 PANEL - Critical Legal Frontiers: Global Challenges to Freedom of Expression* *Caroline James*, Advocacy Coordinator, AmaBhungane Centre for Investigative Journalism *Alexander Papachristou*, Executive Director, Cyrus R. Vance Center for International Justice *Barbara Trionfi*, Author, IPI Report Climate / Environmental Journalism Under Fire *Jorge Calder?n Gamboa*, Independent Expert, UN Program Harmony With Nature *Mishi Choudhary*, Senior Vice-President and General Counsel, Virtru *Professor Nikolaus Forgo*, Head of the Department of Innovation and Digitalization in Law, University of Vienna Moderator: *Sandra Coliver*, Former Senior Legal Officer, Open Society Justice Initiative, USA *16:00 2024 Columbia Global Freedom of Expression Prize Ceremony* Performance by singer *Vivir Quintana*, ?Canci?n sin miedo? (Song without fear) Keynote: *Elena Kostyuchenko*, Russian journalist and activist Presentation of the *winner in ?Significant Legal Ruling?* by *Caroline James*, amaBhugane Investigative Journalism Center Presentation of the *winner in ?Excellence in Legal Services?* category by *Barbora Bukovsk?*, Senior Director for Law and Policy, ARTICLE 19 *16:50 Closing Remarks* *Hawley Johnson*, Associate Director, CGFoE *LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/cgfoe10 * *TWITTER #freespeech @ColumbiaGFoE @UNESCO @pcaruanagalizia @mirrorsbreath @Suffolk_Law @nimajpu* *MASTODON #freespeech * *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ * *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/cgfoe10 * *ADD TO CALENDAR https://calndr.link/event/fa4H7mDxww * -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[image: ISOC LIVE] On *Friday 26 April, 2024* at *11:30 IST* (06:00 UTC) the *Internet Society India Hyderabad Chapter *(ISOC Hyderabad) in association with the *Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers * (ICANN) will present a hybrid multi-hub event '*Knowledge Session on Universal Acceptance *'. This session will provide an introduction to *Universal Acceptance *(UA). To create an awareness about UA we will discuss about Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs), Email Address Internationalization (EAI) and how the participants can be involved in ongoing UA related activities. *SPEAKER* *Champika Wijayatunga* - Regional Technical Engagement Sr. Manager for Asia Pacific, ICANN *MODERATOR / HOST* *K Mohan Raidu*, President, ISOC Hyderabad *LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/isoc-hyderabad-universal-acceptance * *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/isoc-hyd-ua * *REAL TIME TEXT* (see *ISOC.LIVE * ) *TWITTER #UniversalAcceptance #UADay2024 @ISOC_Hyderabad @kmraidu Champika Wijayatunga @ICANN @UASGTech #Internet4All* *MASTODON #isochyderabad * *SIMULCASTS* *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live * *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive * *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ *(AI captions) *ARCHIVE* *https://archive.org/details/isoc-hyderabad-universal-acceptance * *ADD TO CALENDAR https://calndr.link/event/sNjS09XHbY * - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kmraidu at aol.com Fri Apr 26 00:56:15 2024 From: kmraidu at aol.com (K Mohan Raidu) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 07:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Chapter-delegates] =?utf-8?q?WEBCAST_APR_26_=E2=80=93_ISOC_Hyde?= =?utf-8?q?rabad_=E2=80=93_Knowledge_Session_on_Universal_Acceptance?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <216443372.3346330.1714118175426@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you Joly, for all the initiatoive and support.Mohan? On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 11:00:48 AM GMT+5:30, Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates wrote: ** Since April 1 2024 - the ISOC Live community livestream service is no longer funded by the Internet Society - big thanks to our first monthly sustaining sponsor Vint Cerf for his support! ** There are many many UA Day events in 2024, but none i think as well attended?as today's from ISOC Hyderabad, which, due to the efforts of their ISOC Academic Hubs initiative, has 700+ Zoom registrations!? | | | | On Friday 26 April, 2024 at 11:30 IST (06:00 UTC) the Internet Society India Hyderabad Chapter (ISOC Hyderabad) in association with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) will present a hybrid multi-hub event 'Knowledge Session on Universal Acceptance'. This session will provide an introduction to Universal Acceptance (UA). To create an awareness about UA we will discuss about Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs), Email Address Internationalization (EAI) and how the participants can be involved in ongoing UA related activities. SPEAKER Champika Wijayatunga - Regional Technical Engagement Sr. Manager for Asia Pacific, ICANN MODERATOR / HOST K Mohan Raidu, President, ISOC Hyderabad LIVESTREAM https://livestream.com/internetsociety/isoc-hyderabad-universal-acceptance PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/isoc-hyd-ua REAL TIME TEXT (see ISOC.LIVE) TWITTER #UniversalAcceptance #UADay2024 @ISOC_Hyderabad @kmraidu Champika Wijayatunga @ICANN @UASGTech? #Internet4All MASTODON? #isochyderabad SIMULCASTS https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ (AI captions) ARCHIVE https://archive.org/details/isoc-hyderabad-universal-acceptance ADD TO CALENDAR https://calndr.link/event/sNjS09XHbY | | | | | | - -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie? +12185659365?--------------------------------------_______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. - View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joly On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 3:56?AM K Mohan Raidu wrote: > Thank you Joly, for all the initiatoive and support. > Mohan > > > On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 11:00:48 AM GMT+5:30, Joly MacFie via > Chapter-delegates wrote: > > > *** Since April 1 2024 - the ISOC Live community livestream service is no > longer funded by the Internet Society - big thanks to our first monthly > sustaining sponsor Vint Cerf for his support! *** > > There are many many UA Day events in 2024, but none i think as well > attended as today's from ISOC Hyderabad, which, due to the efforts of their > ISOC Academic Hubs initiative, has 700+ Zoom registrations! > > [image: ISOC LIVE] > On > *Friday 26 April, 2024* at *11:30 IST* (06:00 UTC) the *Internet Society > India Hyderabad Chapter > > *(ISOC Hyderabad) in association with the *Internet Corporation for > Assigned Names and Numbers > * > (ICANN) will present a hybrid multi-hub event '*Knowledge Session on > Universal Acceptance > *'. > This session will provide an introduction to *Universal Acceptance > > *(UA). To create an awareness about UA we will discuss about > Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs), Email Address Internationalization > (EAI) and how the participants can be involved in ongoing UA related > activities. > > *SPEAKER* > *Champika Wijayatunga* - Regional Technical Engagement Sr. Manager for > Asia Pacific, ICANN > > *MODERATOR / HOST* > *K Mohan Raidu*, President, ISOC Hyderabad > > *LIVESTREAM > https://livestream.com/internetsociety/isoc-hyderabad-universal-acceptance > * > > *PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM https://bit.ly/isoc-hyd-ua > * > > *REAL TIME TEXT* (see *ISOC.LIVE > * > ) > > *TWITTER #UniversalAcceptance #UADay2024 @ISOC_Hyderabad > > @kmraidu Champika Wijayatunga @ICANN @UASGTech #Internet4All* > > *MASTODON #isochyderabad > * > > *SIMULCASTS* > *https://twitter.com/ISOC_Live > * > *https://www.twitch.tv/isoclive > * > *https://www.facebook.com/liveisoc/ > > *(AI captions) > > *ARCHIVE* > *https://archive.org/details/isoc-hyderabad-universal-acceptance > * > > *ADD TO CALENDAR https://calndr.link/event/sNjS09XHbY > * > > > - > > > -- > -------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie +12185659365 > -------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed > to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society > Chapter Portal (AMS): https://community.internetsociety.org. > - > View the Internet Society Code of Conduct: > https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/ > -- -------------------------------------- Joly MacFie +12185659365 -------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can reach them all via chapter-support at isoc.org Best, Christine Christine Saegesser Baethge, Sr. Director Chapters and Special Interest Groups saegesser at isoc.org [cid:030694D5-CB4B-4B1E-A45E-B9E370E8CE12] Discover what we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report ?? Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. On 22 Apr 2024, at 14:57, Christine Saegesser > wrote: Dear Colleagues, This is a gentle reminder of tomorrow?s Chapter Communications Training sessions - see details below. There?s still time to register if you haven?t done so yet. We look forward to seeing you there! Best, Christine On 8 Apr 2024, at 21:29, Christine Saegesser > wrote: Dear Colleagues, As a follow-up to the discussions below and as requested by some of you, we are organising a 60-min Chapter Communications Training Session for chapter leaders. To cover time zones, we?re offering the same session at two different times on 23 April 2024: Session 1: 23 April, 13:00 UTC * Registration Link: https://isoc.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZcpf-Ghpj4sE9ZKMpV_1ufjnzK30U58QMAV Session 2:23 April, 18:00 UTC * Registration Link: https://isoc.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZwpd-GvqDwiGdAqPH0tr8IC8v7w737yJsFM The training will cover: * Chatter Groups: How to communicate and engage with with your chapter?s members (2-way communications) * Post messages * Add attachments * Reply to messages * Configure personal notification settings * Reply via email * Post via email * Sending 1-way email communications to our chapter?s members * Create campaign * Create message * Add recipients * Send message We encourage you to go through my last message (from 28 March) on this topic in the thread below to get prepared for the training. We look forward to seeing many of you on the training calls. They will be recorded for those unable to join. Best, Christine Begin forwarded message: From: Christine Saegesser via Chapter-delegates > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Request for a method to send email to Chapter members. Date: 28 March 2024 at 09:40:19 CET To: ISOC Chapter Delegates > Cc: Joly MacFie >, AMS Support > Reply-To: Christine Saegesser > Dear all, Let me build on earlier messages, trainings and pointers on this list by highlighting that each chapter and special interest group (SIG) also has a Chatter Group available and ready to use for easy communications. These groups exist independently of the more complex 1-way email communications functionality. Chatter Groups: These groups offer a simple way to share messages, engage and have conversations with all chapter members, with additional features such as a polling functionality. This 2-way communications functionality is available to all chapter & SIG leaders and members. Here?s how you get there: * Log into the Community Portal * Go to your profile (?My Profile? page from the top right corner menu or via your profile picture) * Click on ?My Groups? in the lefthand menu: you?ll see the list of chapters and/or special interest groups you?re a member of * Click the green ?Access Group? button It?s that easy to get into your group. From there, you can: * Post messages to all chapter/SIG members directly from the platform * Find the ?Group Email? address under ?Group Details? on the righthand side: you can send messages to this email address from your mail client to reach all members of the group. We recommend saving this address in your mail client?s contacts so you don?t have to go looking for it on the platform each time. * ?Manage your notification" settings by clicking on the corresponding button just below the group logo. If you wish to receive posts in real time, then please make sure this is set to ?Every Post" If you prefer communicating from your mail client rather than via the Community Portal (AMS), this is not a problem. You can respond to chatter group posts directly from your mail client. A 10-min training video around Chatter Groups is available on the Community Training Portal here: https://communitytraining.internetsociety.org/training/chatter-groups/ 1-way email communications In addition to the Chatter Groups, there is a much more powerful (and because of that also more complicated) way of sending 1-way email communications. This functionality has been made available to 2 chapter leaders per chapter (chapters need to give them the role of Communications Officers via the Chapter Leader Portal because specific licenses are needed for this). This functionality was developed based on: * requirements gathered during the selection process, where the participating community representatives asked for more powerful functionality, such as email analytics (delivery, open and bounce rates), which are email marketing / distributed marketing tool functionalities that are not available in simpler emailing systems. This functionality will become available to chapter leaders over the next few months as part of one of the upcoming releases * Chapters asked for the ability to send transactional messages to ALL their members (even if they opted out of promotional emails). This can only be accomplished through a system that allows you to build journeys for both promotional and transactional purposes. This is now possible. * Chapters needed automated email notification options based on member action * Because of the volume of emails sent, ISOC needs a system where its IP reputation can be managed to prevent ISOC or chapter emails from being added to spam lists A 12-min training video around 1-way email communications is available on the Community Training Portal here: https://communitytraining.internetsociety.org/training/send-email-as-chapter-leader/ Alternatively, Joly and Sarah (see in the thread below) have shared written steps to get your emails out. As always, our regional Community Engagement Managers are available to hop on a call with you if you need assistance or would like someone to walk you through process. You can reach them via chapter-support at isoc.org For any bugs or errors, please continue sending those to AMSHelp at isoc.org Best, Christine Christine Saegesser Baethge, Sr. Director Chapters and Special Interest Groups saegesser at isoc.org <7lLtdG5uyz62tLMy7C1sG4AZ0YbGncdFng.png> Discover what we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report ?? Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. On 28 Mar 2024, at 06:14, Amrita Choudhury via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Thank you for this Sarah. I managed to send out a mail to the chapter. However, as a user it seems the system has become more confusing, with additional steps and time consuming (off course I do see more options has been added). Previously using one email ID we could send bulk message to the whole Chapter. Now to send a simple male you have to create a campaign, key in the message, link to the who Chapter data set, etc. Additionally the campaign money option which is mandatory is quite irrelevant for many of us. Also the currency denominator reflects only few currency therefore its redundant to most nations. I hope the team while improvising really looks at simplifying things than complicating it for volunteers from across the world. Regards, Amrita On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:27?AM Sarah Lake > wrote: Hi Amrita Responding here as well for all: The 'Send Email as Chapter Leader' guide an video can be found here: https://communitytraining.internetsociety.org/training/send-email-as-chapter-leader/ Reposting @Joly MacFie's message (thank you!) below as well: 1. Create the Campaign In the Leader Portal, Go to ?Chapter Emails? Select ?Email Campaign? Click ?New? Input a ?Campaign Name? ? mandatory field Input any other information pertaining to the Campaign in the applicable field(s) Select the ?Active? button Hit ?Save? This creates the campaign. 2. Link the Campaign to a Journey Click on Chapter Emails Select ?Email Campaign? Select the Campaign you created Under Campaign Messages select ?Connect Campaign? In the Journey field, start typing your Chapter name (i.e. Washington) and this will bring up your journey options. Select the journey with the ?TR? designation at the end to send a transactional email. NOTE: The journey with no ?TR? designation would be a promotional email that goes to chapter members who have not opted out of communications. Click on ?Save? -- this will take you to a screen where you create the message you want to send. 3. Add Recipients (For sending a message to all members) Go to ?Reports? from the Leader Portal, Click on ?Active Chapter Members? This will bring up all Chapter Members Click the check box beside the Chapter Name Click on the dropdown button next to Export (at the top of the screen) Click on ?Add to Campaign? Select the Campaign to which the email is being sent Click on ?Submit? 4. Create the Message Click on Chapter Emails Select ?Email Campaign? Select the Campaign you created. Click on the preview button (eye) to the right of the subject line. Select a Subject Hover over the Subject Line box, then select ?Click to Edit? to select one of the template subject lines. Hover over the Rich Text Box, then select ?Click to Edit? to enter the text of your message. Once done, Click ?Save & Close? 5. Send the Message Take you back to the Email Campaign screen. Under Campaign Messages, select ?Bulk Send? It will then show you a preview of your message as well as to whom it will be sent. If you?re ready to go, click on ?Send? Hope this helps. Best Regards Sarah Sarah Lake (she/her), Community Engagement Manager, Asia-Pacific lake at isoc.org | Australia, UTC/GMT+10 [https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.freshdesk.com/data/helpdesk/attachments/production/60003658383/original/7lLtdG5uyz62tLMy7C1sG4AZ0YbGncdFng.png?1585130171] Give a gift of opportunity. Donate today. Read about work we?re proud of in our 2023 Year in Review Report ________________________________ From: Chapter-delegates > on behalf of Amrita Choudhury via Chapter-delegates > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 15:28 To: Joly MacFie >; AMS Support > Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates > Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Request for a method to send email to Chapter members. I agree the present system seems to be very confusing. Have been trying to send a mail to the chapter, but not succeeded yet. Could anyone share where the tutorials to send emails are? Regards Amrita On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 2:26?AM Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Hi Levy, Chatter is not bad, somewhat akin to whatsapp with email integration, but, by default, members are set to email digest mode, can even reset their option to 'limited', and I suspect members who are set to 'opt-out' may never see it at all. So, it is not a reliable way to reach your chapter membership. Also, content options are limited. OTOH, an email campaign, with the journey set to TD, will reach every member of your Chapter. Once an email campaign is set up, it's easy to repost to the same campaign without going through all the set up. What isn't clear to me, as yet, is, whether this will reach people who have subsequently joined. Possibly not. Joly On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:16?AM levy syanseke via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Hi Joly, That's what I was referring to. Regards Levy Syanseke Ramah Designs - Founder Internet Society Zambia Chapter - Founding President +260 978 210 494 *God is a Designer* On Sun, 24 Mar 2024, 20:08 Joly MacFie, > wrote: Hi Levy, Are you referring to 'Chatter' ? Joly On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 12:42?PM levy syanseke via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Hi Mohan, I hope this email finds you well. I do understand your frustration and have been through it before. While waiting for the demo video, we learnt we can use an alternative channel within the new AMS. If you have time or any other leader who would like help with communicating using the same feature to communicate to your chapter members. I am available on Tuesday. Do advise, anytime before or after 9:50 UTC - 13:00 UTC. Regards Levy Syanseke Media Studies Tutor | Ramah Designs - Founder Internet Society Zambia Chapter - Founding president Youth IGF Movement - Community Coordinator [https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/53/tools/email-signature-generator/icons/phone-icon.png] +260 978 210 494 [https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/53/tools/email-signature-generator/icons/email-icon.png] lsyanseke at gmail.com God Loves You! On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 4:24?AM K Mohan Raidu via Chapter-delegates > wrote: That traning link itself erroneous. I asked for a one-on-one and step-by-step demo of the emailing. This attitude of the AMS is very irresponsible. There is no method to send emails to Chapter members from the portal. And traning on a non existing feature is futile. Will the demo be arranged or should I esclate it the highest level? K Mohan Raidu President ISOC Hyderabad. +919985033566 On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:32:01 PM GMT+5:30, AMS Helpdesk > wrote: Hi K, ?The correct training link was sent back on 7 March 2024. As we did not receive a reply, the ticket was closed. Please let us now if you are still having trouble accessing this link and training. [https://attachment.freshdesk.com/inline/attachment?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpZCI6NjAxMTAwMzg3NDcsImRvbWFpbiI6Imlzb2NoZWxwLmZyZXNoZGVzay5jb20iLCJhY2NvdW50X2lkIjoxMzE0ODYxfQ.uupAJssu5iI1-ges_5RGAjxV4n2UiIHvfqaW2uOJiX8] On Fri, 22 Mar at 9:17 AM , K Mohan Raidu > wrote: How do close a ticket without attending or resolvinb the issue? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 10:49:58 PM GMT+5:30, AMS Helpdesk > wrote: Dear K Mohan Raidu, Your ticket - Request for a method to send email to Chapter members. - has been closed. We hope that the ticket was resolved to your satisfaction. If you feel that the ticket should not be closed or if the ticket has not been resolved, please reply to this email. 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Christian -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- From: "Ted Hardie, Internet Society Board Chair" To: Subject: Internet Society?s 2030 Strategy Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 07:01:13 -0600 -------------- next part -------------- To view this email as a web page, go to the link below, or copy and paste it into your browser's address window. https://view.mail.isoc.org/?qs=8a071bab0a802633143eee78be15683a0643dd2881bc1aca41fcbff1f207a672ab599aca4b8a09c1f45b7c92a2052eba24b6ff0314b37233c531b7ad583786339d3ea75911b72d0a3899e487f469a772 Dear Internet Society community, On behalf of the Internet Society Board of Trustees, I would like to share with you the https://click.mail.isoc.org/?qs=01b75bc0369dae590272280daf8a37daf2ab8585256d453858b8b47db0eeb6ab8b29869da4718bd5e8b1481fa492be7628d93a5d91eae16b3f9e60ccfa1df4d6 Internet Society’s 2030 Strategy . The development of this strategy began last year with conversations among the Board of Trustees, Internet Society leadership, staff, and you—our global community of dedicated volunteers. During that consultation, it became clear that our ongoing strategy work should closely resemble our long-held vision: the Internet is for everyone. As a result, the 2030 Strategy is an evolution of our current strategy for building, promoting, and defending the Internet. It is not, however, a simple restatement. The global impression of the Internet has gotten more negative over time, and while humanity's core urge to connect and build community has not changed, it has been tainted by fears, both valid and imagined. That has changed the set of global challenges we face and created a need to adjust our priorities. This strategy sets those out. It does not change our steadfast commitment to focus on people, both the Internet’s users and those who are still excluded. Nor does it turn us away from the work of the past five years, in which the Internet Society connected new communities, countered bad law, advocated for the technology needed to support confidentiality, and showed the world the harms that occur when the Internet is withdrawn. Instead, it recognizes that we must do more in the face of those new challenges. This strategy will, no doubt, continue to evolve as we approach the official start in January and as it plays out in the years beyond. In the meantime, please have a look and familiarize yourselves with our priorities over the next five years. I hope you see, as I do, a call to action in it. The Internet’s capacity to interconnect individuals and communities remains an important and powerful force for the common good, and we must do everything in our power to help ensure it continues to provide those benefits to humanity. 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Best, Christine On 29 Apr 2024, at 20:00, Christian de Larrinaga via Chapter-delegates > wrote: Ted kindly sent a link to the two page pdf of ISOC's 2030 global Strategic Plan. https://www.internetsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/2030-Strategy-EN.pdf I thought chapters should be aware. So they can discuss ways they can implement this. Christian -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- From: "Ted Hardie, Internet Society Board Chair" > To: > Subject: Internet Society?s 2030 Strategy Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 07:01:13 -0600 To view this email as a web page, go here. [Internet Society Online Safety SIG] Dear Internet Society community, On behalf of the Internet Society Board of Trustees, I would like to share with you the Internet Society?s 2030 Strategy. The development of this strategy began last year with conversations among the Board of Trustees, Internet Society leadership, staff, and you?our global community of dedicated volunteers. During that consultation, it became clear that our ongoing strategy work should closely resemble our long-held vision: the Internet is for everyone. As a result, the 2030 Strategy is an evolution of our current strategy for building, promoting, and defending the Internet. It is not, however, a simple restatement. The global impression of the Internet has gotten more negative over time, and while humanity's core urge to connect and build community has not changed, it has been tainted by fears, both valid and imagined. That has changed the set of global challenges we face and created a need to adjust our priorities. This strategy sets those out. It does not change our steadfast commitment to focus on people, both the Internet?s users and those who are still excluded. Nor does it turn us away from the work of the past five years, in which the Internet Society connected new communities, countered bad law, advocated for the technology needed to support confidentiality, and showed the world the harms that occur when the Internet is withdrawn. Instead, it recognizes that we must do more in the face of those new challenges. This strategy will, no doubt, continue to evolve as we approach the official start in January and as it plays out in the years beyond. In the meantime, please have a look and familiarize yourselves with our priorities over the next five years. I hope you see, as I do, a call to action in it. The Internet?s capacity to interconnect individuals and communities remains an important and powerful force for the common good, and we must do everything in our power to help ensure it continues to provide those benefits to humanity. 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Statement by the Internet technical and academic = community on the Commission on Science and Technology for Development Working = Group (CSTD WG) on improvements to the Internet Governance Forum = (IGF)

Dear colleagues

There is a consultation open with the EC on the governance of = the Internet of Things. Are any of you = planning a response to this consultation ? If so, we could coordinate our e= fforts.

Elena Zvarici <= br>Communication manager Internet Society Romania +407261= 28728 http://www.isoc.rowww.twitter.com/isocrohttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Internet-Society-Rom= ania/Consider the environment: don't print this email= unless necessary

http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/digital-agenda/acti= ons/iot-consultation/index_en.htm

The Internet is gearing up for the next technological revolu= tion: communication with and among objects.

How woul= d you envisage the "governance" of such an "Internet of Things" (IoT)?

Policy field(s) top

Who can reply to this consultation? top

Period of = consultation top<= /a>

How to submit your contribution&n= bsp;top

S= ome supporting documents and links top

Elena Zvarici <= br>Communication manager
Internet Society Romania
+407261= 28728
http://www.isoc.ro
www.twitter.com/isocrohttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Internet-Society-Rom= ania/
Consider the environment: don't print this email= unless necessary