[Chapter-delegates] WhatsApp’s

Erik Huesca erik at huesca.mx
Fri Sep 15 09:51:31 PDT 2023


I think you are totally wrong with a bad attitude in your answer. As
always, people like you without arguments the answer is aggression. Maybe
you have to think twice before continuing to try to destroy the coherence
of the group.

Erik S. Huesca
*F*undación para el *C*onocimiento y *C*ultura *D*igital (FUNCO)
www.funco.mx
erik at huesca.mx
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Móvil: + 55 26619243


On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 7:47 PM Carlos Vera <cveraq at gmail.com> wrote:

> You are free to join or not. You are not free to say another how to think.
>
> Think well before write or do not write at all.
>
> Carlos Vera
> sent from my proprietary iPhone
>
> El 14 sep. 2023, a la(s) 18:30, Erik Huesca <erik at huesca.mx> escribió:
>
> 
> I'm astonished by your answer! All of us in the group try to have
> coherent conversations. Outside communication channels like the WhatsApp
> group overflow the communication, distorting the work and creating
> misunderstandings!
>
> This is not a matter of joining or not a WhatsApp group; is an
> essential discussion of the proper use of communication tools. And who and,
> what, and where we produce ideas recommendations, and most importantly,
> keep the information for accountability, history, and the trace of ideas. A
> working group is a space for sharing views, paths, and doubts. If somebody
> uses alternative channels, the division becomes a reality, and the
> trace of ideas and proposals is lost forever.
>
> Your answer "Those that disagree are free not to join also. It can't be
> mandatory!" is unfortunate. Please don't call to disband the ideas, call to
> join and share, not disinformation!
>
>
>
> Erik S. Huesca
> *F*undación para el *C*onocimiento y *C*ultura *D*igital (FUNCO)
> www.funco.mx
> erik at huesca.mx
> erik at funco.mx
> Móvil: + 55 26619243
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 3:19 PM Carlos Vera via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone. I also answer to the email asking for a WhatsApp to create a
>> group. This is not my proposal but I like it and participate when group is
>> available.
>>
>> Those that disagree are free to not join also. It can’t be mandatory!
>>
>> Carlos Vera
>> Isoc Ecuador
>>
>> El 13 sep. 2023, a la(s) 11:36, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates <
>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escribió:
>>
>> 
>>
>> +1 Jules. There is also the question of what purposes/usages Messaging
>> apps are good for.
>>
>> For a quick poll as to which flavors of pizza to order for the meeting,
>> Messaging apps are a good fit. For actually discussing anything
>> substantive, likely not. Thus, while "this (face-to-face or Zoom) meeting
>> could have been an email" scans, "this meeting could have been a WhatsApp
>> (or FB Mess) chat" does not, not usually. :)
>>
>> Also, looking at all the criticism leveled against social media posts for
>> misinformation, i suspect that short-form comms such as memes, captions,
>> *and* messaging chats are as much to blame for our 21st century
>> dys-information.
>>
>> Besides, i like threaded emails ... i routinely save some to disk to
>> serve as *evidence* ... errr, i mean -- documentation. :)
>>
>> WYn
>>
>>
>> On 13 Sep 2023 2:53 AM, Johan Helsingius via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>
>> I understand the attraction of a whatsapp group, but doesn't
>> whatsapp represent all that we, as ISOC chapters, are fighting
>> against - closed, proprietary walled gardens controlled by
>> megacorporations that specifically refuse to interoperate
>> with other parts of the net?
>>
>>     Julf
>>
>> On 12/09/2023 20:36, diyaa shafique via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>
>> Hi Carlos
>> I hope you are doing fine!
>>
>> This is a great idea to start a whatsapp group, I would suggest to create
>> one and share the link here for everyone to join.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Madiha Shafique
>> VP- ISOC Pakistan
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 9:23 PM Alejandra Stolk via Chapter-delegates <
>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Carlos,
>>
>>     I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to answer your
>>     request to start  a WhatsApp group. My WhatsApp number is
>> +584123700021.
>>
>>     Kind regards,
>>
>>     Ale Stolk
>>
>>     On Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 10:01 AM Carlos Vera via Chapter-delegates
>>     <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>>     <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         Carlos Vera +593-988141143
>>
>>         Isoc Ecuador
>>
>>         Enviado desde mi iPhone
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