[Chapter-delegates] An important message from ISOC Bulgaria - your input is needed

Veni Markovski veni at veni.com
Sat Jan 22 08:52:25 PST 2022


Thanks, Richard.
It will be *Sunday, January 30th*, of course - my mistake for the wrong 
date/day, and yes, it's 2 pm UTC (GMT).
Thank you for the additional details.


Here are the Zoom details; the list of local phone numbers in about 55 
countries is here: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kfaafpGQg

ISOC-Bulgaria is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: ISOC chapters discussion
Time: Jan 30, 2022 03:00 PM Brussels

Join Zoom Meeting
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Meeting ID: 884 3867 4930
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Meeting ID: 884 3867 4930
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On 1/22/22 04:42, Richard Hill wrote:
>
> Dear Veni,
>
>
> Thank you for this. If I understand correctly, the Zoom call will take 
> place on Sunday 29 January, 14h00 UTC.
>
> As complement to what Veni writes below, be aware that several other 
> Member States (mostly developing countries) supported Russia’s 
> proposal to hold an open consultation on certain issues.
>
> After discussions in the Council Working Group, Russia made a 
> statement outlining the issues, it is found in the Annex of the report 
> of the 19-20 January CWG-Internet meeting. That report will be 
> publicly available in due course. For convenience, I reproduce below 
> the contents of the Annex that outlines the issues proposed for 
> consultation.
>
> Since there was no agreement in the Council Working Group, there will 
> surely be extensive discussions at the ITU Plenipotentiary Conference 
> (26 September-14 October 2022) regarding what, if anything, should be 
> discussed in ITU regarding Internet governance.
>
> In this context, it’s worth noting that it is not only Russia and 
> China that are passing laws, rules, regulation, etc. regarding the 
> Internet.  The EU GDPR is of course a well-known example, but more 
> will likely come from the EU, see:
>
> https://www.politico.eu/article/metaverse-new-competition-challenges-margrethe-vestager/ 
>
>
> https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-services-act-ensuring-safe-and-accountable-online-environment_en 
>
>
> And of course there are various national initiatives to limit or 
> weaken encryption, for example:
>
> https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/01/uk-online-safety-bill-set-to-weaken-encryption-and-put-uk-internet-users-at-risk/ 
>
>
> It’s probably not possible to prevent governments from discussing 
> Internet governance issues at the national level. So it seems to me 
> that the questions should be (1) how to ensure informed discussion (2) 
> what should be discussed at the international level and (3) in what 
> forums to hold the international discussions.
>
> Back in January 2018, I made some pretty detailed proposals regarding 
> what to discuss where, see:
>
> http://www.apig.ch/Gaps%20r9%20clean.pdf
>
> Best,
>
> Richard
>
> ===========
>
> *_STATEMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION_*
>
>   * The Russian Federation notes the ongoing process of fragmentation
>     of the Internet and the degradation of the common digital space
>     and expresses its concern at the lack of a substantive discussion
>     on the issue of maintaining the unified global network and the
>     lack of practical steps to prevent fragmentation of the Internet.
>   * The Russian Federation considers it necessary to organize the
>     governance of the Internet in the form of an open democratic
>     process, which is based on the universally recognized principles
>     and norms of international law, focused on the needs of people,
>     protecting their rights and freedoms, including ensuring the
>     personal information security.
>   * The Russian Federation calls for the transformation of the
>     existing Internet governance system in order to exclude the
>     influence of any unilateral political restrictions or commercial
>     interests on it and ensure the safety, integrity, continuity,
>     stability, sustainability and security of the global critical
>     infrastructure.
>   * The Russian Federation recognizes the need for further cooperation
>     at the national, regional and international levels to resolve
>     issue mentioned above and is open to constructive dialogue and the
>     development of practical solutions to prevent the complete
>     fragmentation of the Internet and encourages Member States to
>     actively participate in such a dialogue within the ITU.
>   * The Russian Federation considers it important to continue the work
>     of the CWG-Internet in the next period in accordance with
>     Resolution 102 of the Plenipotentiary Conference.
>
> *From:*Chapter-delegates 
> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] *On Behalf Of *Joly 
> MacFie via Chapter-delegates
> *Sent:* Saturday, 22 January 2022 03:45
> *To:* Veni Markovski
> *Cc:* Chapter Delegates
> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] An important message from ISOC 
> Bulgaria - your input is needed
>
> Hi Veni,
>
> A couple of questions to get the ball rolling.
>
> What exactly are we afraid of with these proposals?
>
> How, practically, can the RIRs etc be unjurisdictioned?  Presumably 
> the suggestion is the function be passed to the ITU?
>
> Is there any way, as non-participants in multilateral processes, that 
> Chapters can influence the outcome, beyond lobbying their country's 
> representatives?
>
> joly
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 6:26 PM Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates 
> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>     Hi, everyone.
>     *Please, do not share with other lists; this is an issue of
>     relevance for the chapters only! *
>
>     At ISOC Bulgaria we have been following the discussion at the ITU
>     Council Working Group on International Internet-related Public
>     Policy Issues (CWG-Internet
>     <https://www.itu.int/en/council/cwg-internet/Pages/default.aspx>),
>     which this week was discussing the topic for the next open public
>     consultations.
>     I wanted to give you some feedback and ask you to step up your
>     contacts with your national telecom administrations (usually this
>     would be the Ministry for Communications or some other Ministry or
>     governmental agency. A list of all the members, including which
>     governmental agency/ies represent them at the ITU is here:
>     https://www.itu.int/hub/membership/our-members/directory/?myitu-members-states=true&request=countries
>     <https://www.itu.int/hub/membership/our-members/directory/?myitu-members-states=true&request=countries>
>
>     You may have read* in the last year about the the attempts by the
>     Russian Federation to drive the ITU in discussion of issues,
>     related to the Internet; within the European Chapters (in CC:) we
>     spent some time last September talking about what's going on.
>     Perhaps we could organize ourselves and have an all-chapter Zoom
>     call among all chapters? See more on that further below.
>
>     This past week the Russian federation proposed two topics for
>     discussions, they are both publicly accessible here
>     <https://www.itu.int/md/S22-RCLINTPOL17-C/en>, but I am attaching
>     them for your convenience. You will see details in these
>     documents; the summary is that Russia proposes member states to
>     discuss among themselves the following issues:
>     · risks for reliability and stability of existing model of the
>     operational activities organization/operators of critical Internet
>     infrastructure;
>     ·Member States’ inputs and proposals on possible ways to overcome
>     existing challenges and neutralize risks for operational activity
>     organizations/operators of critical Internet infrastructure;
>     ·what international structures and procedures can overcome the
>     existing challenges and risks.
>
>     And for the public consultations they proposed the topic:
>
>     "Reliability and stability of the operational activity
>     organizations/operators of critical Internet infrastructure: key
>     and challenges of their operating activities, in particular the
>     risks of being in national jurisdictions."
>
>     See their arguments and details in the attached documents.
>
>     This is not the first time they are proposing a topic, related to
>     "critical Internet infrastructure", as described in the articles*
>     below.
>
>     At ISOC Bulgaria, where we have participated for the last 23 years
>     <http://isoc.bg/kpd/index2-eng.html> in helping the Bulgarian
>     government making sure the telecommunications laws are
>     Internet-friendly and to ensure that the Internet develops open,
>     unregulated and without restrictions
>     <https://isocbg.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/bg-itu/>, we raised
>     awareness to the newly elected Bulgarian government (December last
>     year) about the latest Russian proposals, as they touch on the
>     more than two decades Internet-friendly environment in the country
>     - result of policies, which have been discussed between
>     governments and the non-governmental sector for years.
>
>     Of course, there's always more that could be done, and this is
>     where *all chapters* cold not only join forces, but also try to
>     make a difference. That is, of course, if you care about keeping
>     the Internet open, interoperable, stable and developed, as the
>     WSIS Tunis Agenda
>     <https://www.itu.int/net/wsis/docs2/tunis/off/6rev1.html> (art. 35
>     and others) says, with participation by all stakeholders, in their
>     respected roles.
>
>     I personally think we should */not/*//be asking ISOC.org to help
>     us in setting the call, but if they say they would, /that would be
>     great/. If not - ISOC Bulgaria will be happy to provide a Zoom
>     link. To include as many chapters as possible, we suggest to have
>     it at 6 am California, 9 am New York, 3 pm Brussels, 7:30 pm in
>     Delhi, 10 pm  in Singapore. We understand that some chapters might
>     not be able to join, and others (Australia, New Zealand) perhaps
>     definitely won't be able to join (midnight in Brisbane), but
>     nevertheless, we should try to include as many as possible.
>
>     ISOC Bulgaria urges you for a quick and focused discussion on here
>     first, and then we meet next Sunday, January 29th in order to make
>     sure people can join. I understand that for some working day might
>     be easier, while a Sunday impossible, but there always will be
>     some percentage of people, who won't be able to join, so we have
>     to choose one day anyway.
>
>     Hope that this is helpful, and enjoy reading the articles and
>     documents.
>
>     _______
>     * - See the articles below. Disclaimer: ISOC Bulgaria does not
>     necessarily reach to the same conclusions or share the same ideas
>     as the author.
>
>     February 1, 2021: Russia is trying to set the rules for the
>     Internet. The U.N. saw through the ruse.
>     https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/01/russia-internet-rules-united-nations/
>
>     March 30, 2021: How Russia and China are attempting to rewrite
>     cyberworld order
>     https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-russia-and-china-are-attempting-to-rewrite-cyberworld-order/2021/03/30/16030226-9190-11eb-a74e-1f4cf89fd948_story.html
>
>     May 4, 2021: Russia’s plot to control the Internet is no longer a
>     secret
>     https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/04/russias-plot-control-internet-is-no-longer-secret/
>
>     July 20, 2021: Russia and China’s hypocritical attempt to control
>     cyberspace
>     https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/20/russia-china-are-trying-control-internet-even-they-censor-it/
>
>
>
>     -- 
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Veni
>
>     Chairman of the Board
>
>     Internet Society - Bulgaria
>
>     https://www.isoc.bg  
>
>     pgp:5BA1366Eveni at veni.com
>
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Best regards,
Veni
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