[Chapter-delegates] FINAL REMINDER: Call for Nominations, ISOC Board of Trustees

Richard Barnes rlb at ipv.sx
Thu Jan 6 07:15:06 PST 2022


Hi Hank,

I also was wondering if John had made a typo there.  To give you a sense of
scale, paying $150k to each of 12 directors would consume roughly 5% of
ISOC's total budget!  Even the $50k/yr rate you suggest would be a painful
trade-off -- for the same money, we could fund more than 150 Beyond the Net
grants ($50k * 12 / $3.5k = 171).  Personally, I have a hard time seeing
how shifting that scale of money away from impact into trustees' pockets is
a net positive for the Internet.

At a more basic level, your taxonomy of who can participate without payment
doesn't seem well-supported by the real-world data.  ISOC has never
compensated its trustees, and if you look back at the list of people who
have served as trustees (
https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/list-of-trustees/), you
can see that there are folks from many parts of the community.  Folks from
industry, academia, and the nonprofit sector, from all around the globe.

I don't disagree that maintaining the board's diversity is a continuing
challenge.  But that doesn't mean that paying people is the way to solve
it.  Adding the problems Ted notes to the trade-offs noted above,
compensating trustees would likely cause more problems than it would solve.

--Richard


On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 12:44 AM Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> On 06/01/2022 03:36, John More wrote:
> > Hank
> >
> > I fully agree that ISOC should compensate Trustees.  There is no reason
> not to and every reason to do so to enable a broader group of people to run
> as Trustees. At a minimum, I would suggest $150,000 a year.
>
> I  am not sure if you made that last sentence in cynicism since that was
> totally not my intention to compensate Trustees at $150K/yr.  I was
> thinking more on the order of $50K/yr for the 50hr/month = $83/hr.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Hank
>
>
>
> >
> > John More
> >
> >> On Jan 5, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 04/01/2022 04:58, George Sadowsky via Chapter-delegates wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi George,
> >>
> >> I assume many of you also follow the ICANN at-large list and their
> "multistakeholderism" discussions this past week.
> >>
> >> In order to be a proper candidate, one that is involved and not just a
> figurehead, you have to assume at least 50 hr/month of work at being a
> Trustee.    Other than travel there is no reimbursement for time spent
> working as  a Trustee.  So who can volunteer and who cannot:
> >>
> >> - who can volunteer:
> >>     - a retired person with a pension (George Sadowsky)
> >>     - a person whose company/organization is willing to fund his/her
> time as a trustee (Richard Barnes/Cisco, Paul Ebersman/Neustar, Brian
> Haberman/JHU, Ted Hardie/Cisco, Robert Pepper/FB, Jon Peterson/Neustar,
> Laura Thomson/Fastly)
> >>     - A person whose organization may not be completely aware of the
> immense time spent on ISOC Trustee needs, yet their goals are consistent
> with the goals of ISOC and allow their staff some leeway into such
> participation (Ndeye Maimouna Diop/Sonotel, Luis Martinez/Professor in
> Mexico, Muhammad Shabbir)
> >>
> >> Every company has a Board of Directors who are paid for being a Board
> member (not a lot but not nothing).  As long as ISOC has a policy not to
> compensate Trustees, we will end up whereby ISOC is indirectly controlled
> by large technological companies.
> >>
> >> In order to attract those 35-55 year olds who work 50+ hrs/week and who
> don't have an employer to back them, ISOC needs to change its policy and
> begin to compensate trustees.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Hank
> >>
> >>> Dear Colleagues,
> >>>
> >>> This is a final reminder that the call for nominations for the
> Internet Society Board of Trustees 2022 elections closes at 15:00 UTC on
> Friday, 7 January.
> >>>
> >>> If you or someone you know is interested in serving on the board,
> please see the official call for nominations, additional information and
> links to the online nomination forms at:
> >>> http://www.internetsociety.org/trustees
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> George Sadowsky
> >>> 2021-2022 Nominations Committee Chair
> >>> Internet Society
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
> >>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet
> Society Chapter Portal (AMS):
> >>> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login
> >>> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct:
> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
> >> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society
> Chapter Portal (AMS):
> >> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login
> >> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct:
> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed
> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society
> Chapter Portal (AMS):
> https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login
> View the Internet Society Code of Conduct:
> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/code-of-conduct/
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/attachments/20220106/f86b03a0/attachment.htm>


More information about the Chapter-delegates mailing list