[Chapter-delegates] FINAL REMINDER: Call for Nominations, ISOC Board of Trustees

Thu Jan 6 00:37:51 PST 2022

Hi Hank,

The reference you cited contains this explanation of the role:

The director of a non-profit organization serves as figurehead,
spokesperson, and leader for their organization. They are the point person
for their entire organization, serving as its representative with the board
of directors, media, staff, the public, funders, and regulatory agencies.
As such, this executive manager plays several crucial roles.

In other words, this compensation is expected for the executive director
staff role, not a member of the board of directors or trustees.

I'll point out that compensating board members has some pretty serious side
effects.  If the compensation is over $600, the board member must be issued
a 1099 and may have to deal with US taxes filings as a result; for non-US
persons, this is not a trivial undertaking.  Further, it may mean that they
are not volunteers under the US federal Volunteer Protection Act or its US
state equivalents.  That changes the liability rules for board members. so
that they incur personal liability at a lower bar.  That can be dealt with
via insurance, but it is not a simple calculus.  It also may create issues
for those whose employment has conflict of interest rules that vary by
whether or not the external activity is paid or unpaid work.

The last stats I saw were a few years ago, but at the time fewer than 15%
of US nonprofits compensated their board chairs and even fewer compensated
other members.  In many cases the logic is simply that it discourages
donation, since donors may see it as a sign that their money is going to
the organization rather than the mission.

If this is a topic you would like to continue discussing, I suggest doing
so on the governance reform list, since that has folks from each of the
communities and since it has already taken up the related topic of board
diversity.

regards,

Ted Hardie

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:00 AM Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> On 06/01/2022 07:44, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
> > On 06/01/2022 03:36, John More wrote:
> >> Hank
> >>
> >> I fully agree that ISOC should compensate Trustees.  There is no
> >> reason not to and every reason to do so to enable a broader group of
> >> people to run as Trustees. At a minimum, I would suggest $150,000 a
> >> year.
> >
> > I  am not sure if you made that last sentence in cynicism since that
> > was totally not my intention to compensate Trustees at $150K/yr.  I
> > was thinking more on the order of $50K/yr for the 50hr/month = $83/hr.
>
>
> See:
>
> https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Director_Non-Profit_Organization/Salary
>
> for further details.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Hank
>
>
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hank
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> John More
> >>
> >>> On Jan 5, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates
> >>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 04/01/2022 04:58, George Sadowsky via Chapter-delegates wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi George,
> >>>
> >>> I assume many of you also follow the ICANN at-large list and their
> >>> "multistakeholderism" discussions this past week.
> >>>
> >>> In order to be a proper candidate, one that is involved and not just
> >>> a figurehead, you have to assume at least 50 hr/month of work at
> >>> being a Trustee.    Other than travel there is no reimbursement for
> >>> time spent working as  a Trustee.  So who can volunteer and who cannot:
> >>>
> >>> - who can volunteer:
> >>>     - a retired person with a pension (George Sadowsky)
> >>>     - a person whose company/organization is willing to fund his/her
> >>> time as a trustee (Richard Barnes/Cisco, Paul Ebersman/Neustar,
> >>> Brian Haberman/JHU, Ted Hardie/Cisco, Robert Pepper/FB, Jon
> >>> Peterson/Neustar, Laura Thomson/Fastly)
> >>>     - A person whose organization may not be completely aware of the
> >>> immense time spent on ISOC Trustee needs, yet their goals are
> >>> consistent with the goals of ISOC and allow their staff some leeway
> >>> into such participation (Ndeye Maimouna Diop/Sonotel, Luis
> >>> Martinez/Professor in Mexico, Muhammad Shabbir)
> >>>
> >>> Every company has a Board of Directors who are paid for being a
> >>> Board member (not a lot but not nothing).  As long as ISOC has a
> >>> policy not to compensate Trustees, we will end up whereby ISOC is
> >>> indirectly controlled by large technological companies.
> >>>
> >>> In order to attract those 35-55 year olds who work 50+ hrs/week and
> >>> who don't have an employer to back them, ISOC needs to change its
> >>> policy and begin to compensate trustees.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hank
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Colleagues,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a final reminder that the call for nominations for the
> >>>> Internet Society Board of Trustees 2022 elections closes at 15:00
> >>>> UTC on Friday, 7 January.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you or someone you know is interested in serving on the board,
> >>>> please see the official call for nominations, additional
> >>>> information and links to the online nomination forms at:
> >>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/trustees
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> George Sadowsky
> >>>> 2021-2022 Nominations Committee Chair
> >>>> Internet Society
> >>>>
> >>>>
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