[Chapter-delegates] ISOC and its involvement with the IETF

[Bob Hinden]

Hank,

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BTW, I think this is a useful document.   The IETF does have a lot of representation by people who make infrastructure systems, so a reminder to think about the Internet Users is a good thing.

Bob


> On Sep 13, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates <Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Chapter members,
> 
> I recently learned of an IETF standard (RFC8890) entitled "The Internet is for End Users" which was published a year ago:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8890/
> The IETF informational standard attempts to analyze how to poll end users as to what they really want (worth reading).
> In section 4.1 "Engaging the Internet Community" I am surprised that ISOC is not mentioned at all as being a representative of all Internet end users.  Why is ISOC not seen as representative of end users worldwide?
> 
> Especially after RFC8712 was published in Feb 2020 -   "The IETF-ISOC Relationship":
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8712
> Looking at the authors of RFC8712 I am curious which ISOC staff or Chapter members were polled or played a part in the writing of RFC8712?   I cannot identify whom from ISOC was involved in the writing on this RFC.
> 
> I fear I see a pattern here of a disconnect between the IETF and ISOC which needs to be rectified by a more active involvement of ISOC and its chapter members in the IETF.
> 
> Regards,
> Hank Nussbacher
> ISOC-IL
> 
> 
> 
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