[Chapter-delegates] more diversity, was On funding dedicated to chapters

[Veni Markovski]

John,
As the facts point it out - if the other two groups, electing Trustees, 
were paying as much attention to diversity, as the chapters do, you 
would have had today 3 Americans instead of 9 as Trustees.
Not sure what you are trying to prove, except that the chapters are 
doing something no other group is?
We also heard about the problems and years of discussions one of these 
groups, the IETF, is having in addressing the diversity problem. As for 
the organizations, who are ISOC members, we could make an educated guess 
that some (many?) of them have even top Diversity, Equity and Inclusion 
officials, so does that mean they understand this is an issue, unlike 
some of the members of this list from the US?

ISOC is an organization, which claims to be global (it's written on 
their website).  That should be somehow reflected in its BoT 
composition, wouldn't you agree?
OTOH, it would be quite helpful, if you, as a former Trustee appointed 
by the IETF, would tell us what in the IETF process of appointing 
Trustees make it so hard to find a non-US candidate.

Also, on a related topic - would you mind sharing with us which ISOC 
chapter are you affiliated with now?

Thanks.

On 10/6/21 14:13, John Levine wrote:
> It appears that Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates<veni at veni.com>  said:
>> Hi, John.
>> Chapters are now the ones, which simultaneously have to provide the
>> diversity, but they have to provide all of the diversity? Chapters elect
>> four Trustees. Last time I checked, 3 of these 4 are from Latin America,
>> Africa and Asia. One is from the USA.
>> Instead of playing with hypothetical situations, ...
> Um, Veni, it's not a hypothetical situation. It is what the chapters
> did in the 2020 election.  Don't you remember?
>
> In view of the preferences that the chapters have expressed when
> voting for candidates, why shold anyone pay attention to random people
> who make assertions contrary to what the chapters really do?
>
> R's,
> John
>
>
>>> But for the diversity advocates in the chapters, here is a question:
>>>
>>> Let's say there are two open Chapter seats on the board, and the nominating
>>> committee offers candidates from south Asia, west Africa, and Latin
>>> America.
>>> Then there is a petition to nominate an old guy from the U.S.  Should the
>>> petition candidate be allowed to run, even though he would increase the
>>> number of of old guys from the U.S.?
>>>
>>> Let's assume the petition candidate does run and gets more votes than
>>> anyone else. Should he be seated on the board, even though he would
>>> increase the number of old guys from the U.S.?
>>>
>>> If the answer to those is yes, how do you plan to increase the board's
>>> diversity?  If the answer is no, how do you plan to explain to the
>>> chapters that they can't vote for their preferred candidate?

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Best regards,
Veni
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