[Chapter-delegates] On funding dedicated to chapters

Fri Oct 1 23:22:05 PDT 2021

+1 Franca, particularly this:

> Things worked much better when there was a Regional Director who understood 
> the region, issues and needs of a Chapter and had the authority to provide 
> funding. 

Governance is not only top-down rather than bottom-up, but has become 
increasingly centralized over the past few years. Whatever happened to 
"distributed"?

WYn

On 2 Oct 2021 2:50 am, Franca Palazzo via Chapter-delegates wrote:
> Apologies if this was addressed already but I can't keep up with all the emails.
>
> I believe I already brought this up once and it wasn't addressed.  I would 
> like to point out two issues the Canada Chapter has with the whole process:
>
>  1. The issues eligible for grants rarely include the issues we are working on
>     and the "other" category is a nightmare to proceed with.
>  2. The entire process is very onerous especially for a $5k grant.
>
> The Canada Chapter has been doing amazing work here and we struggle to fund 
> projects.  Things worked much better when there was a Regional Director who 
> understood the region, issues and needs of a Chapter and had the authority to 
> provide funding.
>
>
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> *From:* Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> on 
> behalf of Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates 
> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> *Sent:* September 30, 2021 5:54 PM
> *To:* Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] On funding dedicated to chapters
> Hi,
>
> I have the impression that the information I posted was not helpful to you, 
> and I regret that I have not been as helpful as you would wish.
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:22:55PM +0200, Alexander Blom wrote:
>
> >With 90% of the money going to other external parties
>
> That is, as I tried to point out in this message, not an accurate portrayal of 
> the situation.  There is nothing whatever preventing chapters from applying 
> (or _also_ applying) for grants outside the BtN program.  But BtN is reserved 
> _only_ to this community.  Some chapters have applied to the other progams and 
> been successful, and there is no reason why that can't be true for other 
> chapters as well.  (Some chapters, of course, are not eligible for these 
> grants because those chapters are not the equivalent of US 501(c)(3)s.  That 
> is a structural problem related to US not for profit law.  The Internet 
> Society can't currently act as an intermediary on the larger grant programs.)
>
> >grant-making activities." On the contrary, I think that Nazar is right: why
> >does the foundation and in fact all of ISOC does not concentrate on its
> >core constituency, the chapters, and its core cause, the internet?
>
> It is certainly the case that there are people doing work on Internet issues 
> who are not and who do not wish to be or cannot be chapter members, so I don't 
> think it would serve the Internet to insist that a chapter be involved in 
> everything.  For instance, there are countries where anything resembling a 
> chapter would be illegal, but we can work with individuals there.
>
> I admit that I don't understand the concern that we're not concentrating on 
> the core cause of the Internet. The board that hired me and every board since 
> has been crystal clear that they do not want us to be the everything society, 
> and it has been a consistent hallmark of my time here that topics that are 
> vaguely related to technology but are not really Internet topics are not 
> things that we pursue.  Yes, the Foundation will fund things that have to do 
> with the application of the Internet to particular problems, but unless the 
> Internet is at the core of each application the application won't get far.
>
> > If
> >Afrinic is truly going through a rough time, why is ISOC not jumping in?
>
> Given that there are active law suits going on, if the Internet Society were 
> helping do you think it would be wise for us to post about it on a list that 
> could be shared very widely?  This is a hypothetical question, of course.
>
> >And why is only 30% of project applications successful?
>
> Well, that is the rate so far this year, but as I said we are working to 
> improve the problematic applications so that this rate can get better.  I 
> don't think I was suggesting that this is a good result, and I believe it will 
> improve as we continue to work with applicants.
>
> Best regards,
>
> A
>
> -- 
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> President & CEO, Internet Society
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