[Chapter-delegates] ISOC Submission to the ITU Second Open Online Consultation on the Draft Guidelines for the Utilization of the GCA

[Chokri Ben Romdhane]

Hi Richard,
Thank you for exhaustive answer, but the it's useful to discuss nation
sovereignty whethere the main issue is end to end encrypted communication?

Freindly Regards
Chokri

Le jeu. 11 févr. 2021 à 9:05 AM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> a écrit :

> I fully agree with Elizabeth. For the reasons given in the ISOC
> submission, which I will repeat below, the criticized provision of the GCA
> is indeed outside the mandate agreed by the ITU Member States in Resolution
> 130.
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> Since ISOC is the ITU member with the most expertise in the topic of
> whether encryption should be weakened to facilitate law enforcement, I
> think that it is ISOC’s responsibility to make the point referred to above.
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> Resolves 3 of Resolution 130, cited in the ISOC submission, states that
> ITU’s work should not include: “areas related to Member States' application
> of legal or policy principles related to … content and cybercrime, which
> are within their sovereign rights”.
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> Whereas the criticized GCA provision, also cited in the ISOC submission,
> states that Member States are encouraged to explore mechanisms that
> facilitate “lawful access to the content of communications where end-to-end
> encryption has been implemented.”
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> Since “content and cybercrime” are out of scope, so is anything related to
> “lawful access to content”.
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> Best,
>
> Richard
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> *From:* Chapter-delegates [mailto:
> chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] *On Behalf Of *Chokri Ben
> Romdhane via Chapter-delegates
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 February 2021 21:52
> *To:* Elizabeth Oluoch; ISOC Chapter Delegates
> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC Submission to the ITU Second Open
> Online Consultation on the Draft Guidelines for the Utilization of the GCA
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> Hi Elizabeth ,
>
> In my opinion the main issue with the CGA recomandation that it's open the
> door to a "lawful"access to the end to end encrypted communications! which
> will compromise. the security of a lot of internet activities. so no need
> to stress on ITU mandate.
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> Chokri
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> Le mer. 10 févr. 2021 20:46, Elizabeth Oluoch <oluoch at isoc.org> a écrit :
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> Hi Chokri,
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> Thank you for your feedback and your support of ISOC’s submission. I would
> like to respond to your suggestion and share why we raise the matter of the
> ITU’s mandate and why it’s important to convey that in the submission.
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> We endeavor not to tell the ITU what it can or cannot do. The
> recommendation for lawful access to content is intended to be used within
> the Legal Measures Pillar or Area of the GCA. However, the main
> Cybersecurity Resolution (Res. 130) is clear that “areas that deal with
> Member States’ application of legal or policy principles related […] to
> content and cybercrime” are National matters. It is on this basis that we
> take the view that the recommendation exceeds the ITU’s mandate. Mandate
> considerations are an important factor for some in these discussions. If
> it’s not within the mandate, then it  should not be discussed or considered.
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> Thanks again.
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> Best regards,
>
> Elizabeth
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> *From: *Chokri Ben Romdhane <chokribr at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 10:25 AM
> *To: *Audio Conferencing Conferencing Info <oluoch at isoc.org>
> *Cc: *"chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org" <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC Submission to the ITU Second Open
> Online Consultation on the Draft Guidelines for the Utilization of the GCA
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> Hi Elizabeth,
>
> I  globally  support   the ISOC submission and I agree that there is no l*awful
> "access to the content of communications where end-to-end encryption has
> been implemented." *
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> But let me disagree with this  sentence  *"this recommendation exceeds
> the mandate of the ITU"* , in my opinion the ITU is the specialized
> agency mandated  by the UN to play a leading role in cybersecurity matters .
> What I would like to say is that we are not here to comment on the role of
> ITU , but CGA It would  be better to avoid such non consensual  conclusions.
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> Friendly Regards
>
> Chokri
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> Le ven. 5 févr. 2021 à 17:35, Elizabeth Oluoch via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> a écrit :
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> Dear Chapter Leaders,
>
>
>
> ISOC has prepared a submission to the ITU Second Open Online Consultation
> <https://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-s/md/20/sg/cir/S20-SG-CIR-0055!!PDF-E.pdf>
> on the Draft Guidelines for the Utilization of the Global Cybersecurity
> Agenda (GCA). Our submission responds to a recommendation in the Draft
> Guidelines that would weaken the security and trust of the Internet.
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> We invite you to look at the submission and share any thoughts/suggestions
> by *Friday, February 12*. Kindly send them to oluoch at isoc.org.
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> ISOC’s Submission is here:
> https://isoc.box.com/s/w88hd88dmjvuc6w49fb42m0swn5e8f9m
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> Guidelines for the Utilization of the GCA:
> https://www.itu.int/en/action/cybersecurity/Pages/gca-guidelines.aspx
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> Attachments: (1). Guidelines for the Utilization of the Global
> Cybersecurity Agenda (May 2020); (2). Background on the GCA
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> Please let me know if you have any questions.
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> Best regards,
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> Elizabeth
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> Elizabeth Oluoch – Do Canto
>
> Senior Policy Advisor
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> Internet Society
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