[Chapter-delegates] Board composition (Was Re: Unfortunately, the Internet Impact Toolkit is unsound)

Veni Markovski veni at veni.com
Fri Sep 18 10:19:51 PDT 2020


Christian, you are right - diversity has many faces, and ISOC has to
look into it, and decide what to do and how to do it. Just think about
geography, gender, age, culture... to name only a few.

Andrew,
I put culture last, but it is an important item - e.g. some chapters may
decide not to speak against, or even speak at all, if there's something
at the ISOC global level, because it's in the culture not to challenge.
Sometimes someone may write something, which could be interpreted as
insulting, while they don't mean it; while I can't give an example from
the list, I am sure there are some.
I hope that you will be part of this conversation, and will find a way
to urge chapters to both participate here, in the list, and may be reach
out directly to you (or to whoever at the BoT level?), with keeping it
confidential. Btw, in some cultures, the term "in confidence" is not the
same as in the USA, so it might need some explanation what it means in
the ISOC context.

Hope that this exchange is helpful for the global and positive health of
ISOC.

v/

On 9/18/20 07:22, Christian de Larrinaga wrote:
> So important to nurture younger talent to participate and build
> constituency around ISOC values. But also to encourage both NFP and
> commercial organisations involved in Internet employing them to engage
> with ISOC on those principles as an attractor for that talent.
>
> C
> --------------------------------------
>
> Christian de Larrinaga
>
>
> On 17 September 2020 15:58:33 Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates
> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> George, thank you for your note.
>> At ISOC Bulgaria we find these issues of great concern for the good
>> of the global ISOC.
>> Diversity, bringing young people, finding common areas of interest,
>> etc. are challenging for our chapter, as well.
>> ISOC, however, serves as an example not only to the current chapters,
>> but to its global members (not affiliated with chapters as well), and
>> it needs to put more efforts.
>>
>> I am hopeful that the Governance WG you mention might take these
>> challenges at heart, and come with ideas and solutions. If you need
>> input from chapters, just ask!
>>
>> v/
>>
>> On 9/13/20 12:47, George Sadowsky wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> [The following remarks reflect my own personal opinion and not
>>> necessarily that of any component or function of ISOC.]
>>>
>>> I think that this has been a useful discussion, and I hope that it
>>> does not stop here. As the Internet has expanded to connect more and
>>> more users in more countries, it becomes increasingly important for
>>> voices from those new parts of the world to be heard in the
>>> institutions that administer the Internet, such as ISOC. While this
>>> has been difficult initially because the historical roots of the
>>> Internet have been in developed countries, we are now at a time when
>>> not only the impact, use, and importance of the Internet is well
>>> recognized in all countries, but the skills to manage the Internet
>>> and the understanding of policy issues that affect all countries are
>>> reaching critical mass at the national level.
>>>
>>> I have just been elected to the ISOC Board, and am Chair of the
>>> Nominating Committee this year. I take Andrew's point that previous
>>> nominating committees have been quite aware of the issue more
>>> diversity and have worked to try to provide it.  The more important
>>> point that Andrew has stressed is that the members of the board are
>>> elected by their constituent groups and that if there is a
>>> sufficient interest in diversity among the membership of a
>>> constituent group, then the resulting collection will favor that
>>> interest. I am fully committed to  working toward a ballot this year
>>> that provides sufficient choice to result in diverse additions to
>>> the board, but I need  help from all three constituencies to ensure
>>> success.
>>>
>>> Remember that in addition to those candidates that are selected by
>>> the nominating committee for the ballot, there is the possibility of
>>> becoming a petition candidate and adding your name to the ballot.
>>> There is no barrier to having a diverse valid in any of the three
>>> constituencies (IETF, ISOC organizational members, ISOC chapters) if
>>> there is sufficient interest to do so among the membership of that
>>> constituency.
>>>
>>> Finally, this is a subject that is relevant for the soon to be
>>> formed Internet Society Governance working group, which has the
>>> charter that provides for an examination of the current governance
>>> structure and possible modifications to it. Each constituency will
>>> have representatives on this working group, and those of you who
>>> have a particular interest in governance diversification should
>>> learn who your representatives will be on the working group and
>>> communicate your desires through them.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> George Sadowsky
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates
>>>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Couple of points below.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/11/20 11:56, Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>>>> Diversity is clearly a larger challenge that the IETF struggles
>>>>> with, but I think they hear this from the Board.
>>>> Good. We'll see if that was effective next year, when they put
>>>> their candidates for the BoT.
>>>>
>>>>>> Also, the Board could decide, when there’s a vacancy, to appoint
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> from another region, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's been some discussion of this.  I will note that this Board
>>>>> is already quite large, and adding more people could make it
>>>>> seriously unwieldy.  
>>>> I didn't mean to add *more* people, but when filling in a vacancy;
>>>> it has happened in the past - when I stepped down from the BoT,
>>>> Alejandro Pisanty was chosen to finish my term. So, one East
>>>> European was replaced with one person from Latin America. IMHO,
>>>> this was a good choice from point of view of geographic diversity. 
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, 
>>>> Veni
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>>>> pgp:5BA1366E veni at veni.com
>>>>
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>>
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>>
>> Best regards, 
>> Veni
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