[Chapter-delegates] Message from Internet Society Audit Committee Chair

[Carlos Gutiérrez G.]

+1 Veni for your small chapter/small country perspective!!! Sleep well

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On 8 Nov 2020, at 20:37, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates wrote:

> John,
> I’m not sure I can share decades of chapter experience in a short 
> email
> from my phone, but let me as much as I can before my fingers start to 
> ache.
>
> We are on a list, called “chapter delegates”. It consists of all 
> chapter
> “officers” (quote intended, as this is how it’s in the 
> database). No one
> would argue that the members of the list are among the most active in 
> their
> chapter. They have shown interest in following ISOC, contributing to 
> its
> development (it’s another question if and how ISOC is actually using 
> this,
> not a topic of this thread). While it’s possible that there are 
> other
> people in the about 100 countries, where there are ISOC chapters and 
> SIG,
> it is safe to assume that the most active folks are engaged via this 
> list.
> It would be good to get from ISOC information as to how many of the
> previous ISOC BoT have been actually chapter “officers”. That 
> might help
> us. From the current four trustees, afaik, all are or have been 
> chapter or
> SIG “officers”, but not sure for all the past ones.
> Being a chapter officer is not a highly paid job (or is not paid at 
> all).
> In many countries, people who become chapter leaders, are using their
> personal time for a greater good.
> I believe that some of the misunderstanding in this thread is actually 
> due
> to cross-cultural differences, which are completely normal, as the US 
> legal
> system for NGOs is very different from the legal systems of other 
> nations.
> I’ll give you an example - the tax exempt 501(c)(3) principle 
> doesn’t exist
> in the same form in Bulgaria.
>
> One also might not understand why there’s an argument about the CoI 
> policy
> at all, since ISOC admitted it is not a good policy and have told us 
> it
> will be changing it. It would be good to know as to why this list was
> informed about this change, since there’s no process in which the 
> chapter
> leaders can contribute.
>
> Hope this is helpful and hope that we could learn more from each 
> other, as
> it seems chapters have questions, and there are answers that raise 
> more
> questions...
>
> Night.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 20:31 John Levine <isocmember at johnlevine.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> In article <
>> CAN7p9b4w3+4+5Qa3aVuiX5_mz76Y6fDBMT7Fg4Zzow5fP+A72g at mail.gmail.com> 
>> you
>> write:
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-
>>>
>>> It’s not.
>>
>> Oh, OK. In that case what's the problem? Why is it important for a
>> single person to be a chapter leader and a board member at the same
>> time?  Why can't one person do one and another chapter member do the 
>> other?
>>
>> R's,
>> John
>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 14:37 John Levine <isocmember at johnlevine.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <CAN7p9b46J4fHuGzu2ZKr1d3f8+B7gP9NWVq7JU2mzY=+
>>>> Ujffdw at mail.gmail.com> you write:
>>>>> CoI policy, which gives chapter leaders two choices:
>>>>> — run for the BoT of ISOC and give up the work they do in their 
>>>>> own
>>>>> countries
>>>>> — never run foe the BoT, and keep work with their chapters foe 
>>>>> the
>> good of
>>>>> the national Internet.
>>>>
>>>> I understand you to be saying that there are so few people active 
>>>> in
>>>> chapters that no chapter can find one person to be the chapter 
>>>> leader
>>>> and another to run for the board.
>>>>
>>>> If that's not what you're saying, please clarify.
>>
> -- 
>
> Best regards,
> Veni Markovski
> http://www.veni.com
> pgp: 5BA1366E veni at veni.com
> <http://www.veni.com/>
>
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