[Chapter-delegates] Question about Chapter-Delegates list archives

[Andrea Romaoli Garcia]

Hi Alfredo,
I agree with your point if view.
Sometimes I don't talk in discussion list because I don't know with who I
am sharing my opinions.
This measure on secret list will be helpful.
Andrea

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 9:13 AM Alfredo Calderon via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> I actually agree with Veni. The strangest thing is how come 1,000
> delegates (as cited) are on the list. Is it not suppose to be updated based
> on the “actual-active” delegates per chapter.
>
> When and why was it changed from private to public? I believe that gors
> against the whole purpose of the list.
>
> Even if the idea is to become a “transparent” organization, some business
> needs to be carried-out in an environment that then allows the group to
> organize ideas that will be shared in a coherent and “consensus way” to the
> ISOC community.
>
> My 2 cents!
>
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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:01 AM, Judith Hellerstein via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Veni
>
> I agree with you. It should remain private. Possibly it was made public by
> accident
>
> Best
> Judith
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
> Over a thousand people? Christine, aren’t the chapter delegates a smaller
> number?
> As to the “secrecy”, Dave, I see this more about question of trust among
> ourselves, rather than a secrecy issue. Given the fact some people put
> names, addresses and phones in their emails, it could be also a GDPR issue,
> if it’s published on ISOC website.
>
> If it was started as a private list, it shouldn’t have been changed to a
> public one.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 07:17 Dave Burstein via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> Christine
>>
>> Something emailed to over a thousand people cannot be kept secret, so
>> this restriction makes no sense.
>>
>> The last two CEO's of ISOC declared our work should be transparent.
>>
>> Let's live up to that and only keep secret that which absolutely must be
>> secret.
>>
>> I can't even find out who our donors are, although I know several of them
>> benefit from our policy advocacy.
>>
>> Makes us look like Astroturf. Good reporters will question our work.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 6:47 AM Christine Saegesser via Chapter-delegates
>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>> Some of you may have seen a question that came up on the Internet-Policy
>>> list concerning the archive of the Chapter-Delegates list (see:
>>> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/).
>>>
>>> I’d like to follow-up here and share some background, but also get a
>>> sense of what the preference of the list members is:
>>>
>>> *Background: *
>>>
>>> The Chapter-Delegates list is a list that was created for current
>>> Internet Society Chapter leaders to have a place to get information
>>> relevant to their Chapter, to their leadership positions and a place for
>>> them to discuss and share issues pertinent to the Internet Society Chapter
>>> community.
>>>
>>> The list was intended to be a private discussion place for current
>>> leaders only and has been set up like that in 2005. The archive was
>>> therefore also private to current list members.
>>> It was brought to our attention that the list archive was made public in
>>> 2009. We are not sure on what basis this decision was taken at the time and
>>> have therefore set it back to the original intended status.
>>>
>>> *Question: *
>>>
>>> This is a list that is there for all of you to use and we’d thus like to
>>> hear what the preference of the list members is with regards to keeping the
>>> list archives private (to the list members) as opposed to making them
>>> public.
>>>
>>> Please add your answer to that question by clicking on this link before
>>> 30 July: https://www.surveymonkey.de/r/G7XTRLX
>>>
>>> Thanks!!!
>>>
>>> Christine
>>>
>>>
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