[Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advice notice

[Narelle Clark]

Hi Richard
Would you mind giving an overview of the process used, or pointing me at a
description of it?

Much appreciated


Narelle

On Thu, 27 Feb. 2020, 2:02 am Richard Hill via Chapter-delegates, <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Dear John,
>
>
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> I disagree with your inference below. The consensus call clearly indicated
> that lack of opposition (silence) would indicate approval. That’s not an
> unusual way to seek approval, it it is used in many circumstances.  And it
> is the method foreseen in the ChAC’s operating rules.
>
>
>
> So, if we believe  in rules and procedures, then we must accept that the
> advice represents the consensus of the Chapters.
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>
> Best,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> *From:* Chapter-delegates [
> mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
> <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>] *On Behalf Of *John More via
> Chapter-delegates
> *Sent:* mercredi, 26. février 2020 15:30
> *To:* Gonzalo Camarillo
> *Cc:* Chapters AC Elist; Chapter Delegates
> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advice notice
>
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> Gonzalo
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> The failure of the large majority of Chapter delegates to communicate in
> the call for consensus does indicate that the recommendations do not
> reflect a broad consensus in the ISOC community.  They reflect the concerns
> of the more activist Chapters.
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> Yours,
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>
>
> John More
>
> Delegate, ISOC-DC
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> On Feb 26, 2020, at 6:14 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
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> Hi Eduardo,
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> thanks for putting together the three documents with advice to the Board.
> The Board will discuss them and get back to you in order to continue the
> dialog.
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> In addition, as you know, we have been working for several years with you
> and the previous ChAC chairs to find ways for us to engage the community
> more effectively. Unfortunately, that still seems to be a challenge. Per
> the thread below, where you seem to have discussed this advice, around 80
> to 85% of our 124 chapters did not participate in the discussions or
> express any opinion on the advice at all:
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> https://connect.internetsociety.org/communities/community-home?CommunityKey=2ee50649-4a00-4918-83a5-4c8a9a7c7a4c
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> We hope to continue working with you on finding ways to engage a much
> larger fraction of our community in the future, especially when dealing
> with important issues.
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> With the above in mind, it is unfortunately inappropriate to say that this
> advice was approved by *unanimous* consensus since most of the community
> did not even participate in the discussions (after receiving your advice,
> several people from different chapters indeed told me they had actually not
> noticed the discussions on the advice at all). Therefore, I am cc'ing the
> 'Chapter Delegates' mailing list on this email so that as many people as
> possible from our community are aware of these advice and our upcoming
> response.
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> I have also noticed that you decided not to include any information that
> was made available after February 10th, including the recently announced
> PIC. Well, we can discuss that on the webinar on Friday. I am looking
> forward to that.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gonzalo
>
> Chair - ISOC Board of Trustees
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>
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> *From:* Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2020 04:22
> *To:* Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo at ericsson.com>; Kevin Craemer <
> Craemer at isoc.org>
> *Cc:* Chapters AC Elist <ChaptersAC-SC at elists.isoc.org>
> *Subject:* ChAC-SC Advice notice
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> Distinguished Members of the Board:
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> The Chapter Advisory Council Steering Committee (ChAC-SC) is submitting
> the following advice for your consideration:
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>
>
>    1. Advice 2020.02.13-01 :: *The sale of PIR to Ethos Capital should
>    not proceed unless a number of conditions are met.
>    <https://isoc.box.com/s/amwx365bl2w38gh3laxneo2pv1q4w1jy>*
>    2. Advice 2020.02.13-02 :: ISOC constituencies must be consulted
>    <https://isoc.box.com/s/3gey7i3gbqomurwfhhuvxqq49ms0hwm3>
>    3. Advice 2020.02.13-03 :: Changes to ISOC’s Bylaws to strengthen
>    Advisory Councils and Chapters
>    <https://isoc.box.com/s/fhl9ako4i1a4m2ivxuaez42y4vapeoyb>
>
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> The Full Chapter Advisory Council (Full ChAC) approved all Advice by
> unanimous consensus. No objections were received by the set deadline.
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>
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> Please note that Advice #1 is based on information available as of 10
> February 2020.
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>
> Thank you for the opportunity to work with you to make ISOC a better
> organization.
>
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>
>
> Eduardo Díaz
>
> Chair
>
> ChAC-SC
>
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