[Chapter-delegates] New board members and why the challenge to IP is freaking serious

Tue Apr 28 14:46:52 PDT 2020

Folks

Apologies A mail problem blocked an earlier draft last week and I see Olaf
and Hascall are jumping in already.
https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/doc/2020/discussion-paper-an-analysis-of-the-new-ip-proposal-to-the-itu-t/

The new board members are George Sadowsky, (US, independent) Ndeye Maimouna
Diop (Senegal, SONATEL),  Ted Hardie  (US, Google), and  Laura Thomson
(U.S., Fastly).   All are respected in Internet circles. We all know ISOC
needs major change to deliver what we believe in. I hope the new board
members will be very strong. I've moved a note with Hardie's and Jeri
Arkko's thoughtful work on "Protocol Development" (essentially, the future
of the IETF) to a separate email.
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I'm very glad to see Olaf and Hascall are addressing the European Non-IP
Networking
and the Chinese New IP at length in a sensible manner in their new
submission. That's great.

We should not underestimate the long term consequences. Besides the ITU,
the powerful European telcos at ETSI are advancing a similar proposal under
the title Non-IP Networking. I've pasted in the ETSI announcement. Note
ETSI and the key wireless group 3GPP overlap.

What's going on is the telcos, yet again, are trying to assert control of
everything. They say that is more efficient. They also claim controlling
everything will allow end-to-end quality of service and remarkable new
things.

Most of us believe that's garbage and against our description of the
Internet. I'm actually on the ITU Focus Group 2030 and I know the voice of
the non-telco, non-government sector is almost invisible.

Opinion:

This is the old debate of Bellheads vs Netheads, but with the giant
international telcos more visible than the Americans. The issues are
similar, and those wanting telcos in control have strong backing from
(parts of) major governments.

China Mobile & Huawei are only a small part of the story. The Europeans
will have strong support from all the major vendors. China's official MIIT
joined the telco proposals.

In other words, this is serious. It will be tied up in the discussion for
years but something will eventually go through unless the community gets
actively involved.

There are many people here - not just Vint - far more qualified than I am
to point out the high price of undercutting IP. It's proven resilient for
40 years. IETF is even looking at tools for more deterministic connections.

Everything I know says that more network control will drastically add to
costs and probably won't work. (See David Isenberg and Henning Schulzrinne.)

We can and should make these statements strongly in a way people can hear.
To be effective, we must be where the standards will be set, not just the
IETF. *We must avoid letting this become a sideshow of the U.S. vs China
debate, because we will lose.   *

We should probably have a dozen people active at ITU on this and coordinate
with ETSI. ISOC is an ITU member and the Secretary-General a while back
reminded us we could involve as many as we like. (The U.S. and China send
100 to some meetings.) He urged us to do so.
ISOC discussed credentialling our more experienced members, but a staffer
shut it down because of fears members would not properly support the ISOC
position.

ETSI's standards lead confirmed to me they would like ISOC to play a strong
role. This should be where we support multi-stakeholder standards. (Also,
3GPP & IEEE 802.) Like IETF, they all have a role.
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We go to the big ITU meetings where nothing ever happens because each big
country has an effective veto. There is action at the Study Groups on
almost everything we care about, as Elizabeth's well done WTSA paper
explains. https://isoc.app.box.com/s/cr2su0kwv4adqtirqxtboz2qz6ol9ax6

Andrew, Olaf We have at least a dozen members in the chapters who have
strong experience in standards. How can we put together a rapid-acting,
multi-stakeholder group inside ISOC. There's no way we effectively can
tackle this stuff without far more than a handful of staff.
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Years ago, the U.S. made some similar proposals for central control of the
networks as part of "Next Generation" networks with strong support from
Cisco & the three-letter agencies. I questioned at ITAC the central
control. I was told not to waste my time. It was supported by entities far
more powerful than the State Department.  (Even before Snowden, it was easy
to see things.)

Control actually became the defining priniciple of the 5G Core network, to
the point some people believe it will destroy Net Neutrality. (I don't
think that's inevitable.)

One way to understand the ETSI and Chinese proposals is that they are
bringing the 5G core control tools to the interconnection with the rest of
the Internet. *FT *reported "New IP" as a Chinese attempt to take over and
censor the Internet. This is uninformed. China has no need for ITU
standards to control the Internet in China, their main political goal.

Time for ISOC to think about how we can do more and make a difference.

ETSI is the primary European standards group and the most powerful outside
China. It is totally industry dominated, like 3GPP. The public interest
needs to be represented.

ETSI LAUNCHES NEW GROUP ON NON-IP NETWORKING ADDRESSING 5G NEW SERVICES

*Sophia Antipolis, 7 April 2020*

ETSI is pleased to announce the creation of a new Industry Specification
Group addressing Non-IP Networking (ISG NIN
<https://www.etsi.org/technologies/non-ip-networking>). The
kick-off-meeting took place on 25 March and John Grant, BSI, was elected as
the ISG Chair, and Kevin Smith, Vodafone, was elected as ISG Vice Chair.

With the increasing challenges placed on modern networks to support new use
cases and greater connectivity, Service Providers are looking for candidate
technologies that may serve their needs better than the TCP/IP-based
networking used in current systems.

ISG NIN intends to develop standards that define technologies to make more
efficient use of capacity, have security by design, and provide lower
latency for live media.

In 2015, several mobile operators identified problems with the TCP/IP-based
technology used in 4G. These included the complex and inefficient use of
spectrum resulting from adding mobility, security, quality-of-service, and
other features to a protocol that was never designed for them. The
subsequent fixes and workarounds designed to overcome these problems
themselves incur increased cost, latency, and greater power-consumption.
TCP/IP was therefore deemed as non-optimal for the more advanced 5G
services.

An ETSI Industry Specification Group on Next Generation Protocols (ISG
NGP), created in 2015, had the mission to analyse these problems and
suggest alternative solutions. ISG NGP identified candidate technologies
that would address the issues directly, dramatically reducing header sizes,
per-packet processing, and latency experienced by live media, while
remaining compatible with the current Internet and with newer technologies
such as SDN and MPLS. ISG NGP also published a set of Key Performance
Indicators
<https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NGP/001_099/012/01.01.01_60/gs_NGP012v010101p.pdf>
that
allow an objective assessment of the ability of networking protocols to
meet operators’ needs.

Today, we see the evolution of ISG NGP in a new group dedicated to the
specification of alternative technologies to better serve the new 5G
applications, as well as being more efficient and easier to manage, with
lower CapEx and OpEx, when used for current applications.

It is expected that the work of ISG NIN will be applicable initially to
private mobile networks such as factory automation, and then expanded to
public systems, both in the Core network and eventually end to end
including the Radio elements.

The group’s first output will be a Report detailing the shortcomings of
TCP/IP, and how the new alternative system would overcome those
shortcomings. ISG NIN will also work on specifying how the technologies
initially identified by ISG NGP will form the basis of the new protocols,
as well as creating a framework for testing the efficiency and
effectiveness of the new protocols, including over radio.

“*I’m really happy to have been entrusted with the Chairmanship of this
group. Finding new protocols for internet more suitable to the 5G era was
essential. Big data and mission-critical systems such as industrial
control, intelligent vehicles. and remote medicine cannot be addressed the
best way with current TCP/IP-based networking*” says John Grant, Chair of
ISG NIN.

“*The IP stack and OSI layer model have undeniably enabled global
connectivity – but since they originated in the 1970s, their design
reflects the demands and capabilities of that era. Reassessing the
fundamental design principles of network protocols offers the opportunity
to deliver performance, security and efficiency gains for 2020 access
networks and use cases, and may be achieved with simplification rather than
expensive add-ons. The work of ETSI ISG NIN, in co-operation with industry
organizations, can provide operators with a cutting-edge protocol suite to
add to their service portfolio*” says Kevin Smith, Vice Chair of ISG NIN.

About ETSI
ETSI provides members with an open and inclusive environment to support the
development, ratification and testing of globally applicable standards for
ICT systems and services across all sectors of industry and society.  We
are a not-for-profit body with more than 900 member organizations
worldwide, drawn from 65 countries and five continents. Members comprise a
diversified pool of large and small private companies, research entities,
academia, government and public organizations. ETSI is officially
recognized by the EU as a European Standards Organization (ESO). For more
information please visit us at https://www.etsi.org/.

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