[Chapter-delegates] ISOC nominees must discuss ISOC's exclusion, financial support for chapters, board independence, finding waste

[Joly MacFie]

I would put it the other way round. For the most part US policies are
aligned with ISOC's. Kudos to our Policy team!

joly

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:03 AM Dave Burstein via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Richard
>
> Re: ISOC policies are not aligned with US policies: encryption and data
> protection/privacy.
> Actually, the US is still allowing encryption and different officials have
> made different comments. As recently as June 2019, some in the US gov was
> considering blocking encryption but others effectively blocked them so far.
> Trump officials weigh encryption crackdown
> <https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/27/trump-officials-weigh-encryption-crackdown-1385306>
> "DHS is internally divided."
> There remain some conservative republicans who join with liberals to block
> legislation so far. I could have encrypted this email to you.
> ============
> On privacy, again US (and ISOC) have deliberately ambiguous policies.
>
> The US government under both Obama and Trump supported and signed  "the
> Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) 2013 Privacy
> Guidelines," (below) a typical political document that has not changed
> things. It's as close to an official US position on privacy as I could
> find. Richard, does ISOC strongly disagree?
>
> Every Trump Republican I've read is strongly in favour of privacy,
> including some close to ISOC. From the Trump Presidential platform
> "We intend to advance policies that protect data privacy" "In recent
> years, technology companies have responded to market demand for products
> and services that protect the privacy of customers through increasingly
> sophisticated encryption technology. These increased privacy protections
> have become crucial to the digital economy." "We applaud the advance of
> technology in electronic medical records while affirming patient privacy
> and ownership of personal health information"
>
> To make a difference on privacy, we need to get past the hypocrisy even if
> that will anger our government and corporate allies. What we have is a lot
> of talk and pr, not action.
>
> I just read https://www.internetsociety.org/policybriefs/privacy/ and
> some of ISOC's other statements. They do not read very differently than the
> official government statements. High order principles that everyone can
> agree with but almost no specific government or private/collective actions
> that would make much difference.  Not merely are they so vague as to be
> meaningless, *it actually turns out ISOC's official policy is based on on
> the US government approved OECD *
>
> <https://www.internetsociety.org/policybriefs/privacy/>
> Quote <https://www.internetsociety.org/policybriefs/privacy/>
>
> The following principles are derived from the Organisation for Economic
> Co-operation and Development (OECD) 2013 Privacy Guidelines, and are widely
> recognized as providing a good foundation for developing online privacy
> policies and practices:
>
>    - Collection limitation. There should be limits to the collection of
>    personal data. Any such data should be obtained by lawful and fair means
>    and, where appropriate, with the knowledge or consent of the data subject.
>    - Data quality. Personal data should be relevant to the purposes for
>    which they are to be used, and, to the extent necessary for those purposes,
>    should be accurate, complete, and kept up-to-date.
>    - Purpose specification. The purposes for which personal data is
>    collected should be specified. The use should be limited to those purposes
>    or other purposes that are not incompatible.
>    - Use limitation. Personal data should not be disclosed, made
>    available, or used for other purposes except with the consent of the
>    individual or where authorised by law.
>    - Security safeguards. Personal data should be protected by reasonable
>    security safeguards.
>    - Openness. There should be a general policy of openness about
>    developments, practices, and policies with respect to personal data.
>    - Individual participation. Individuals should have the right to
>    obtain information about personal data held by others and to have it
>    erased, rectified, completed, or amended, as appropriate.
>    - Accountability. Those who collect personal data should be
>    accountable for complying with the principles.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:55 AM Richard Hill via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Dave,
>>
>>
>>
>> While I agree with the gist of what you say below, I can think of at
>> least two instances in which ISOC policies are not aligned with US
>> policies: encryption and data protection/privacy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
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