[Chapter-delegates] Join our call to stop the sale of .org

[Hermanos Bambuseros]

Muchos notables y organizaciones históricas de Internet se están oponiendo en forma decidida. https://savedotorg.org/

Carlos Vera 
isoc Ecuador 

> El 28 nov. 2019, a la(s) 02:55, Coenraad Loubser via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escribió:
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> From a relative newcomer's untainted-by-legacy perspective, I would like to state what seems obvious, in the hopes of finding common ground. 
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> It's clear that the first announcement from ISOC should've been to the effect of: "Should we detach .ORG PIR from ISOC?" rather than "it's getting sold." - and that the first release to the effect of a sale, if agreed upon, should be such that it could read: "It is the consensus of the ISOC constituents that the .ORG PIR should be sold." 
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> It's clear that an acceptable response from ISOC, now, would be: "Oops. We're sorry. We made a mistake. The process will be on hold while we consult deeply and transparently with our constituents." (Or "ISOC issues apology")
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> While I trust that the board that we elected is carrying forth our best interests, and that this would shift the .ORG issues to a more relevant platform - and that ISOC is not necessarily the place to discuss these issues, detaching ISOC from .ORG PIR has pros and cons. If people feel more free to discuss this issue in ISOC, then that bodes well for ISOC as a platform for inclusion and consultation, and representation, and we can and should play to this as a strength.
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> This blunder could be a blessing in disguise - if we can use this opportunity to set an example to the world in being able to self-correct - on how to deal with controversy, and how to be more inclusive and consultative.
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> The main concern, seems to me that common sense would seem to dictate that the new PIR owner would demand a 10%+ return on their investment, which would translate into a doubling of .ORG fees, or if they want 20% even a quadrupling - unless they have a plan to generate a return in some more confidence-inspiring and ethical way - such as radically expanding the market - which, considering the reach of the buyer, is a real possibility. Even in the face of what I can only describe as a really impressive backlash. This, I think, is what the backlash is about - as we are not informed of the details, and being the huge organization that we are, we do not yet feel as represented by our board as we would like to be. Again, this could be an opportunity to take steps toward remedying this. 
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> I write this in the hopes that this can help frame the discussion in a more constructive way.
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> Op Wo. 27 Nov. 2019 om 20:42 het Carlos Raul via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> geskryf:
>> https://www.internetgovernance.org/2019/11/25/what-to-do-about-org/#comment-42558 
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>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:35 AM Carlos Vera via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>> “ I believe the appropriate "escalation policy" is to avoid "escalation" if at all possible.”
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>>> This is not a legal question. I’m sure that lawyers are experts enough to get the deal legal in all aspects. 
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>>> This is an ethical, economic and transparency issue.. And this is the way we have to deal with. 
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>>> BTW without forgetting the “what is in it for me” Question regarding isoc’s chapters and Internet non for profit community! 
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>>> Carlos 
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>>> El 27 nov. 2019, a la(s) 12:22, Dave Burstein via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escribió:
>>> > I believe the appropriate "escalation policy" is to avoid "escalation" if at all possible.
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