[Chapter-delegates] Join our call to stop the sale of .org

Alexander Blom alexander.blom at budgetphone.nl
Mon Nov 25 19:14:13 PST 2019


Can you post a link to the Q&A? I did send in questions but never saw an
answer on the chapter delegates list, nor a link to the recording.

Met vriendelijke groet,
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Op ma 25 nov. 2019 om 21:58 schreef Joly MacFie <joly.nyc at gmail.com>:

> Alexander, yours is a narrow view, in my opinion.
>
> Gonzalo specifically responded to your question at yesterday's BoT Q&A.
> The Trustees were and are well aware of what they are doing, and fully
> considered its impact.
>
> joly
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 9:37 PM Alexander Blom <
> alexander.blom at budgetphone.nl> wrote:
>
>> @Joly: Statements like this one, <https://savedotorg.org/> this one
>> <https://www.eff.org/document/coalition-letter-sale-public-interest-registry>
>> or this letter to ICANN
>> <http://www.circleid.com/pdf/ICA_Letter_to_ICANN_Board_201911115.pdf>
>> demonstrate that ISOC is about to lose all credibility with the internet
>> community, and I do not think that an NGO with no credibility is much good
>> to anyone, let alone to that same internet community that collectively
>> decries this decision. ISOC Global apparently mainly looked at the deal
>> from a financial perspective and did not sufficiently consider how it would
>> affect its position in the community.
>>
>> @Hermanos: ISOC Global traded the interests of the .org community and its
>> own credibility for what may well be a sound business decision.
>> Unfortunately, ISOC Global is not a business but an NGO with ideals and
>> volunteers and the interest of the internet at heart.
>> If you answer this email with a statement saying that your chapter
>> supports it, you will be part of the list of supporting chapters that we
>> will put online shortly.
>>
>> Met vriendelijke groet,
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Alexander Blom
>> CEO/owner
>>
>> Budget Phone Company BV
>> Postbus 660
>> 3000 AR Rotterdam
>> The Netherlands
>>
>> Groot Handelsgebouw
>> Stationsplein 45
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Stationsplein+45%C2%A0+3013+AK+Rotterdam+The+Netherlands&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> 3013 AK Rotterdam
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Stationsplein+45%C2%A0+3013+AK+Rotterdam+The+Netherlands&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> The Netherlands
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Stationsplein+45%C2%A0+3013+AK+Rotterdam+The+Netherlands&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> T +31 (0)71 5815620
>> F +31 (0)71 5815611
>> alexander.blom at budgetphone.nl
>> http://www.budgetphone.nl
>>
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>>
>>
>> Op ma 25 nov. 2019 om 21:04 schreef Joly MacFie <joly.nyc at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> There is little question the sale benefits ISOC.
>>>
>>> And what benefits ISOC benefits the whole Internet Community, not just
>>> .org registrants.
>>>
>>> Think before you sign anything.
>>>
>>> joly
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 8:29 PM Hermanos Bambuseros via
>>> Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, in order to inform our board can we have some details about what
>>>> will be the real impact of joint this statement? And is there a letter or
>>>> something to sign?
>>>>
>>>> Some other info will be also interesting to know such us economic
>>>> impact and why is not a good option for ISOC (from an economic point of
>>>> view) this sale
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for this initiative
>>>>
>>>> Carlos Vera
>>>> Isoc Ecuador
>>>>
>>>> El 25 nov. 2019, a la(s) 19:05, Alexander Blom via Chapter-delegates <
>>>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escribió:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> We call on ISOC Global to reverse the sale of the .ORG domain to
>>>> private equity firm Ethos Capital.
>>>> We invite all ISOC chapters across the world to join us in this
>>>> statement.
>>>>
>>>> In May 2002, ICANN formulated a number of criteria for the reassignment
>>>> of the .org Top Level Domain, amongst which:
>>>>
>>>>    - Inclusion of mechanisms for promoting the registry's operation in
>>>>    a manner that is responsive to the needs, concerns, and views of the
>>>>    noncommercial Internet user community.
>>>>    - Demonstrated support among registrants in the .org TLD,
>>>>    particularly those actually using .org domain names for noncommercial
>>>>    purposes
>>>>    - The registry fee charged to accredited registrars should be as
>>>>    low as feasible consistent with the maintenance of good-quality service.
>>>>
>>>> In response, upon selection, then ISOC Global President Lynn St. Amour
>>>> issued the following statement: "We are thrilled to have this opportunity
>>>> to serve the worldwide .ORG community and are dedicated to making .ORG a
>>>> truly global home that will serve the unique interests of non-commercial
>>>> organizations on the Internet."
>>>>
>>>> We believe that the 2019 decision of ISOC Global to sell PIR to private
>>>> equity firm Ethos Capital is not in line with ICANN’s criteria from 2002
>>>> and the subsequent promise from ISOC Global.
>>>> Despite ISOC Global's assurances to the contrary, we share the
>>>> misgivings of the international community about giving a single privately
>>>> owned entity the power to raise tariffs, implement rights protection
>>>> mechanisms possibly leading to censorship, and suspend domains at the
>>>> request of local governments.
>>>> We also fear that ISOC Global's reputation has been severely harmed by
>>>> even contemplating this transaction.
>>>>
>>>> We therefore call on ISOC Global's leadership to reverse this decision,
>>>> and do its utmost to restore faith in ISOC as the one global organisation
>>>> that through its many professionals and dedicated volunteers sincerely
>>>> strives for an internet for everyone.
>>>>
>>>> We invite all ISOC chapters to join us in this statement by responding
>>>> to this message.
>>>>
>>>> On behalf of the Internet Society Netherlands Chapter,
>>>>
>>>> Alex Blom
>>>> Chairman
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