[Chapter-delegates] Call with Chapters in advance of the ITU Plenipotentiary 2018 (18 Oct, 10:00 and 20:00 UTC)
Alejandro Pisanty
apisanty at gmail.com
Wed Oct 17 18:00:54 PDT 2018
Richard,
Planned anomy is still anomy and opportunities for ISOC to deliver its
views and influence decisions that affect the Internet are totally
strangled in these Conferences. End of thread.
As to transparency and loyalty here's how it's done: lots of people are on
different roles. Someone who looks after the Internet's openness and
freedom may find him/herself constrained by duties as a member of a
national delegation or company, yet may still seek to share information and
outlook which are not under such constraints, and in the other direction,
share Internet-friendly views with their delegation or group. It works
well. When on the other hand a member of a delegation (or consultant)
deliberately avoids such opportunities we know they are not playing for
"The Internet is for everyone" and in turn have learned to route around
them. Our delegates to the Plenipot will know.
Alejandro Pisanty
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:50 AM Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:
> Please see below.
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> Thanks and best,
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> Richard
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> *From:* Alejandro Pisanty [mailto:apisanty at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 18:32
> *To:* Richard Hill
> *Cc:* Elizabeth Oluoch; ISOC Chapter Delegates
> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] Call with Chapters in advance of the
> ITU Plenipotentiary 2018 (18 Oct, 10:00 and 20:00 UTC)
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> Richard,
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> SNIP
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> The first type of violation experienced in large ITU conferences is the
> schedule. There is an evident sigh when the first meeting after dinner is
> called. It goes from then on.
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> >RH: I’m not sure what you mean here. Perhaps the fact that, towards the
> end of conference, meetings are called at night? That’s actually a common
> feature of many intergovernmental negotiations, it is not just ITU.
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> The other type of egregious violation consists of suddenly superseding the
> supposedly tidy, long rules-compliant process of building up text for
> resolutions through national and regional preparatory processes to drafting
> and negotiating text on the fly.
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> >RH: That’s not a violation of the rules. On the contrary, it is exactly
> what is foreseen in the rules: written inputs are just that, inputs, and
> the output text is negotiated during meetings, taking into account not just
> the written inputs, but also the verbal comments from the people present at
> the meeting.
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> The third thing ISOC representatives attending the Plenipot should be wary
> of is of consultants who appear to be friendly to the Internet but are
> actually doing hack jobs for operators and governments; and sometimes both,
> as some operators are owned by governments or closely allied. This gets to
> the point of becoming a fifth column against the long-term evolution of a
> free, open Internet for all. Fortunately just watching who they sit with
> over sessions - in the middle of enfranchised participants,
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> >RH: many countries allow non-state actors to sit in national delegations.
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> while ISOC is given one chair in the last table at the end of the room
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> >RH: indeed non-state participants are seated at the back of the room,
> behind the states whose name starts with the letter Z. But nothing
> prevents ISOC members from asking to be part of a national delegation, and
> indeed some people do that.
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> - is enough to unmask them.
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> >RH: The fact that a person is sitting in a national delegation does not
> imply that the person holds any particular position. Further, most national
> delegations do not allow non-government people to speak, so such persons
> are in fact observers with fewer rights than the people sitting in the ISOC
> delegation, since the members of the ISOC delegation can ask to speak.
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> SNIP
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