[Chapter-delegates] Internet Society Accountability: a response to a message on the thread of making ISOC multi-stakeholder, with the subject line renamed.

[Susannah Gray]

Hi Andrea,


On 30/03/2018 07:59, Andrea Romaoli Garcia wrote:
> I don't feel the work hampered by the participation of others but a 
> little bit control will be positive.
> The way ISOC is set up today allows a work oriented to local needs.
> I add that Chaptor NY has a greater responsibility and visibility 
> because it drives the other chapters and brings new subjects to 
> discuss for other instituitionscaround the world.
- What do you mean by ISOC NY 'drives the other chapters'?

Susannah

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President
San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society Chapter
www.sfbayisoc.org




> A little bit of control is needed but volunteers  input can identify 
> new solutions  that the meetings routine extinguishes.
> I don't live in the United States but I've been serving shelters in 
> Washington for volunteering...  Well... stakeholders and member must 
> work together
> There are volunteers  and stakeholder with technical ability that is 
> helpful. But I think we should control a hight level  to maintain the 
> quality of the discussions and close the doors to those demagogues who 
> do nothing but just wish put their name in the highlightner
>
> ANDRÉA ROMAOLI GARCIA
> OABSP 332.542
> Director ISOC-NY
> ICANN Latin American and Caribbean
> United Nations NY
> +55 14 99162-3774
>
>
>
> On 30 Mar 2018, at 10:37, Sivasubramanian M <6.Internet at gmail.com 
> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>     While ISOC has been successful, we do not know if the current
>>     structure has contributed to that success, or if ISOC could have
>>     been more successful if member-driven.
>>
>>
>> ​Agreed. We can not possibly deny that ICANN would be more successful 
>> nor assert that it would be less successful in a member-driven 
>> scenario. What I said was that it worked.
>> ​
>>
>>     While I agree with Dave completely, the reality is giving members
>>     control is contrary to the founding documents and formal
>>     structure of ISOC.  ISOC is not, and never has been, a community
>>     of members, or democratic.  It is a Trust, organised around
>>     managing a perpetual flow of income.  Members do not contribute
>>     to that income, and are therefore powerless.  Article V.1 states
>>     “Individual members shall not have any voting rights with respect
>>     to the Society.”
>>
>>
>>
>> ​The founding documents probably did not anticipate ISOC to take 
>> shape as a Community with several hundred 'volunteers' of good 
>> Technical and Policy expertise. ISOC unwittingly imparts the 
>> impression of a Community driven organization, and it is this 
>> perception that renders credibility to ISOC's policy advice.
>> ​
>
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