[Chapter-delegates] Thank you, Joyce, for pulling back the attempt to give more orders to chapters

John More morej1 at mac.com
Thu Sep 7 07:22:51 PDT 2017


+1

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:24 AM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dave,
> We all have to be thankful for ISOC move towards its attempts to make its bottom up motto a working structure. The creation of the Chapters Advisory Council (ChAC)  was one of these steps in achieving that. I believe of small strides at a time than a complete restructuring the current working model. 
> However, there is still more work to be done on the Chapters level. 
> There is a need to identify how active is th active chapters are because of the dynamic political environment which goes on the country level, some chapters have to freeze their activities because of that challenges. 
> 
> One expects that at least each chapter to have a representative at the ChAC but in reality it is not the case. Adding, those who have representation hardly attend any of the 3 annual meetings. 
> This might give the impression that there an ISOC structure of ghost chapters. 
> I agree with you that we need to make a stronger chapters. But how to make ISOC have a role in this an email thread or even creating a group to keep the dialog going on to feed into the ChAC to make the ideas a practical working actions. 
> 
> 
> 
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> On Sep 6, 2017 5:23 PM, "Dave Burstein" <daveb at dslprime.com <mailto:daveb at dslprime.com>> wrote:
> Folks
> 
> After 160 comments, Joyce has just announced the right move. Rather than staff making a final, definitely inappropriate set of rules for the chapters, the next proposal "will be presented to the Chapters AC Steering Committee for revision and we will work with them to identify next steps. ...  I’m confident that together we can find a consensus that is acceptable to all."
> 
> This is a good, early step toward "multi-stakeholder" decisionmaking in ISOC. (I prefer to say democratic.)
> 
> All, please. Let's follow this up with a frank, clear, and effective discussion on making ISOC more democratic. People from over half the active chapters spoke up. Please continue to do so.
> 
> This isn't about a few personalities, it's about stronger chapters that will make ISOC more effective. 
> 
> Almost all of us are here because we care about a great Internet for everyone. We need substantial action, not just vague "high order principles" and more talk. We need a staff who understand top down decisionmaking holds back the work.
> 
> The next step is to approve the Chapters proposal that has been pending for almost a year and a half. That would allow chapters to send delegates to events, decide how to spend the grand total of 3% of the ISOC budget, be consulted when staff are presenting to the governments in their country, and more.
> 
> That was blocked for now in a closed session of the board, with no public reason given beyond "we have to control all the money."
> 
> Gonzalo, Kathy, all - let's make it so and start working together. 
> 
> Anyone who doesn't understand that should be politely educated about what ISOC stands for.
> 
> Dave Burstein
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