[Chapter-delegates] Comments and feedback on revised charter agreement

[Veni Markovski]

I support Richards's urge for chapter leaders to find someone to join the
chapters advisory council.
ISOC has created a channel for engagement and influence (if you will), so
the chapters have to use it.
It is time to ask not only what ISOC can do for us, but also what we could
do for ISOC - and that includes how the chapters participate and what our
contributions in the governing model are.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 04:36 Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:

> Regarding the comment: “I am aware we currently lack a formal method for
> chapters to vote on such matters”.
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> This is not quite true. The Chapters Advisory Council (ChAC) is a formal
> method for chapters to submit proposals to the Board for its consideration.
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> I realize that not all chapters have named representatives to the ChAC,
> but all chapters can do so, and I would recommend that they do so.
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> Best,
>
> Richard
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> *From:* Chapter-delegates [mailto:
> chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] *On Behalf Of *Brandt Dainow
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 11:54
> *To:* 'Joyce Dogniez'; chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] Comments and feedback on revised
> charter agreement
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> With the greatest respect, I do not think these discussions have reached a
> state where conclusions can be drawn, and I personally resent being told
> that this discussion is over.  Perhaps I am mistaken, but my understanding
> from your email is that you will now create the final version of the
> chapter agreement.  If that is the case, then I also resent being told that
> you and (unknown) other people in central will decide the final version of
> the new chapter agreement.  These discussions have shown that the days have
> passed where national chapters will accept central office dictating to them
> in such a fashion.
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> If you want to attempt to summarise positions, and propose a new agreement
> for consideration by chapters, that is acceptable to me.  However, I really
> don’t think you can legitimately do anything more than that.
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> I propose that no new chapter agreement be finalised without the agreement
> of two-thirds of the national chapters, and that each national chapter
> determine how it will vote through formal agreement of its members.  We
> should bear in mind national members will be bound by the agreement,
> especially if they ever serve on their national committee.  It is contrary
> to democratic principles and the principles of justice that someone be
> bound by changes in rules they haven’t agreed to.  I am aware we currently
> lack a formal method for chapters to vote on such matters.  So I suggest we
> develop something as soon as possible.
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> I suggest that this chapter delegates forum continue to discuss this issue
> as we feel appropriate.
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> Regards,
>
> Brandt Dainow
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> brandt.dainow at gmail.com
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> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow
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> http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow
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> *From:* Chapter-delegates [
> mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
> <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>] *On Behalf Of *Joyce Dogniez
> *Sent:* 06 September 2017 10:15
> *To:* chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> *Subject:* [Chapter-delegates] Comments and feedback on revised charter
> agreement
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> Dear Chapter leaders,
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> I want to thank you for your constructive feedback and comments on the
> revised charter agreement.
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> As the deadline for comments was end of August, we will now start to
> compile the comments and see how to best address them in the final
> version.  This will be done by the end of the month.
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> I have also received some comments from Chapters on specific local
> situations, I will get back to all of you as soon as possible on those.
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> I know some of you are still waiting for some legal feedback locally,
> please contact me off list to let me know of any specific issues.
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> Again thanks a lot for your input.
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> Warm regards
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> Joyce
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> —
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> Joyce Dogniez, CMM
>
> Senior Director Global Engagement
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> Internet Society
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> dogniez at isoc.org
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> Mob/Whatsapp: +352 621 266 189
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> Skype: joycedogniez
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== Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
touchscreen keyboard. Also, that's the reason for using short words and
phrases.
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