[Chapter-delegates] Application to form new Special Interest Group: Community Networks

Wed Nov 29 20:28:17 PST 2017

Hi,

I have been very specific in addressing community networks in
resource-deprived environments. A lot of what is said and done about
waiting for the communities to truly appropriate and own the technology and
its uses is double-edged; on one hand it is all true, on the other it
ignores the fact that people have an uncanny ability to learn to... use the
Internet! use mobile phones! use graphical interfaces! amazing! There is
too much paternalism and control from outsiders, or designated community
insiders, that is actually impeding real massive progress against the
already mentioned adversities from physics and economics. We can't believe
in the beauty of the heroic connection a village at a time and the
principle "Internet for everyone" at the same time unless we actively
reconcile them and scale up the first to serve the second. Three networks
may seem to be all different; 5,000 won't, they will naturally come
together into a small number of classes. This is so proven that the book
exists, and work to update it and give it broad circulation is one of the
most important tasks the SIG could contribute to.

To Joly's question: I think that we should make sure there is a
well-defined ISOC unit as a SIG that forms alliances with other
organizations, as this will immply at some point access to resources,
making decisons which may involve policy differences, and put ISOC in
difficult positions, if it is not done carefully. We are witnessing some
organizations which only see ISOC as an  interesting partner in so far as
they can get grants for projects they, and not ISOC, define. The SIG would
be an  ideal instance to deal with these aspects of the problem, with all
of ISOC's and its members' technical, operational, planning and policy
capabilities put together.

Alejandro Pisanty

Alejandro Pisanty

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Martínez Cervantes Luis Miguel <
luism.martinez at ibero.mx> wrote:

> Unfortunately, needs of real people are hard to be modeled. Precisely, CNs
> are designed upon demand in contrast to service offerings pursuing a
> market. Not even they follow conventional market rules as depicted in
> books. Models for CNs exist, and are well known amongst engineers designing
> and deploying the infrastructure. Gladly, these networks grow and operate
> in such adverse conditions, which are mostly known by CNs developers and
> operators. A big mistake is to think such a networks as
> Internet-for-the-poor, there are well documented cases of CNs in wealthy
> environments, where needs are different. Nevertheless, CNs provide a unique
> experience which has been long-time forgotten when speaking about the
> Internet. I will suggest looking at CNs growing figures, which are amazing,
> not only a village a year.
>
> And again my full support CNs SIG
>
> Yours,
>
> Luis M Martinez
> President ISOC Mx
>
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> Coordinador del Programa de Convergencia Digital
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>
> On November 29, 2017 at 7:55:17 PM, Alejandro Pisanty (apisanty at gmail.com
> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Community Networks are one of the worthiest endeavors to close the digital
> divide and make access to the Internet for everyone a reality. I applaud
> the initiative and to make it more likely to succeed I offer the following
> comments (parental advisory: toes will be painfully stepped upon with the
> intent of making a clear statement on key concepts.)
>
> The present approaches are not scaling well. The approach that makes each
> village - speaking about the case of small clusters of population away from
> optical fiber to keep this rather specific - requires a heroic effort for
> each location that has to be replicated slowly and with great expense in
> each new one. Since physics, economics (in today's density-based models),
> technology development, and social factors are all adverse, this
> whack-a-mole mode will continue for a long time but it will also continue
> to suffer from the problems of expense, long lead time, and numerous
> instabilities (personnel rotation at the village level, inability to keep
> links and equipment functioning over the long run, human and organizations
> who have too many incentives to become gateways being but some of them.) A
> village a year cannot be the model.
>
> The SIG IMO has to add a very high priority and an urgent task of finding
> ways to scale up community networking by providing handbooks, e-learning
> and other forms of remote training, keeping a pipeline of trainees at the
> village level, creating modular kits for to-village and intra-village
> connectivity that are easily set up and maintained, and models for
> sustainable funding. While each case is singular, particular,
> all-of-its-own-singular-particular-class, once we look at a few hundred
> cases distinct patterns emerge. It is necessary and urgent to build upon
> them for scale.
>
> On the constitution of the SIG: as long as this is going to be an ISOC SIG
> there has to be a differentiation between what ISOC members, chapters and
> staff will do, what Organizational Members can contribute, and what other
> self-governing organizations witll do. Starting the SIG with alliances
> already in place is good, but depending on them for determining ISOC's
> actions is - starkly said - not. I have witnessed enough polarization and
> divisiveness in this field to back my statement. Some Organizational
> Members are telcos which have been either strongly opposed (de jure or de
> facto), others neutral, others helpful, in regulation, legislation,
> spectrum and rights-of-way allocation, and the political organization of
> communities around and for networks. Others will happily customize and
> donate gear... maybe. Others are fully in a business model that can be a
> valuable contribution. But, back to the main point of this paragraph, I
> think it is much preferable to constitute an ISOC SIG with ISOC resources
> and have the alliances stay as that. It will be more sustainable in the
> long run.
>
> ISOC has some irrepleaceable resources, people in our Hall of Fame or
> Postel Prizes, like Mahabir Pun and Ermanno Pietrosemoli; experience in the
> field including emergency response like in Nepal; and many others. We have
> not been effective enough yet in bringing them together and that should
> also be a priority for the SIG. Attending conferences goes several steps
> lower if we haven't put together in an effective way all of ISOC's
> wherewithal. Let's also therefore make a clear statement of what the SIG
> expects from ISOC staff, which could be a lot and very helpful.
>
> I do agree that the IGF Dynamic Coalition format may be useful for
> different purposes than the SIG but would also remind those needing it that
> the Dynamic Coalitions were thought of as emerging organizations that first
> form from a meeting of minds and commonality of purpose within the IGF and
> then carry resolution- and action-capable work. In a medium- or long-term
> perspective they may become fully constituted organizations on their own
> terms. Let's not sabotage that by throwing away the baby with the bath
> water.
>
> Recent SIG formations also teach us that a collective endeavor must be
> guaranteed and subject to vigilance. Participation, discussion and
> collective decision-making have not been active e.g. in the Cybersecurity
> SIG and we are all the poorer for that. Let's not repeat the mistake.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Kyle Shulman <shulman at isoc.org<mailto:
> shulman at isoc.org>> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> The following application to start a Special Interest Group (SIG):
> Community Networks has been received. It is being sent to the chapter
> delegates community for peer comment and review. Please note that the SIG
> has not yet formed and has not officially been recognized by the Internet
> Society. The period allowed for comments is two weeks from today and the
> deadline is 13th December 2017. Please do not hesitate to contact me on or
> off list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kyle Shulman
> Global Engagement Project Manager
> Special Interest Group (SIG) Manager
> Shulman at isoc.org<mailto:Shulman at isoc.org>
>
>
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