[Chapter-delegates] Launch of a discussion on DOA / DONA

[Christian de Larrinaga]

Yes "for some applications" I agree. I suspect the concern Olivier is
expressing (and he can correct me) is if the current negotiated
relationship via ITU could lead to temptation for mandating a narrow
implementation (of Handles) for some application classes such as for
some IoT apps on the basis of a "security" argument and so forth. i.e.,
limit choice and tie the market in to a top down ITU governed registry
model.

This is not a concern provided there is a realistic open plurality
globally, not only of registry space within Handles (and similar) but
between persistent object identifier services even for the same objects.


Christian

> Andrei Kolesnikov <mailto:andrei at rol.ru>
> 9 July 2017 at 11:04
>  I agree. Yet, it's just another way of object property recording,
> storage, fetching. For some applications it is a good architecture.
> And also it has nothing to do with DNS. There are few applications
> built on DOI (not only books and articles), such as objects tracking
> systems. And it works good.
>
> --andrei
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> Andrey Kolesnikov
> RIPN.NET <http://RIPN.NET>
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> John Levine <mailto:isocmember at johnlevine.com>
> 5 July 2017 at 21:46
>
> DOA is just a warmed over edition of the Handle system from 2003. Its
> transport protocol has never been used other than experimentally,
> there is no reason to think it would scale well, and the only
> significant real world application is DOIs, who long ago switched to
> http for transport. I wouldn't worry about it.
>
> R's,
> John
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> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <mailto:ocl at gih.com>
> 5 July 2017 at 16:32
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> one of the tasks that I volunteered for as part of the Chapter
> Advisory Council Executive Committee is to check with the Internet
> Society Chapters community on their view of DOA / DONA - Digital
> Object Architecture. An excellent description of the topic is given on:
> https://www.internetsociety.org/doc/overview-digital-object-architecture-doa
> https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/public-policy/2016/10/what-digital-object-architecture-doa-read-our-new-information-paper
>
> Back at the IGF in Guadalajara, I raise the topic with several people,
> as I felt DOA could be a threat to other types of addressing and also
> impose a centralised, top down control of Internet of Things (IoT)
> devices. That goes directly against Internet Core values and certainly
> obliterates and idea that governance of IoT devices could continue in
> a multistakeholder manner. Furthermore, this centralisation of control
> introduces a security weakness that is serious - a single point of
> failure. That's why I called it a threat.
>
> Back in Guadalajara, I raised the concern that the IETF should speed
> up its work to propose alternative identification/trust systems to DOA
> which include local protocols for local trust that is end user controlled.
> Since then, I have spoken to several people at IETF and whilst work
> continues to take place in these topics, the perception of immediate
> threat from DOA/DONA has somehow faded.
>
> So my question is simple: in your view, is the threat of DOA/DONA
> still as strong as it was back 6 months ago. Is this a topic that we
> in the Internet Society should be active about? In what way? Should we
> promote more resources in the IETF to design alternative? Or is this
> just one of many technologies that will hardly have any impact?
> And finally, how should this topic be addressed in light of the
> Internet Society's combining of efforts with the Online Trust Alliance
> (OTA):
> https://www.internetsociety.org/news/ota-and-isoc-combine-resources-enhance-online-trust-security-and-privacy
>
> Looking forward to hear from you soon.
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
> Internet Society Chapter AC Steering Committee member
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