[Chapter-delegates] ISOC donations/Beyond the Net

[Raul Echeberria]

Thank you Vint.
I think all these comments are going in the right direction.

We will publish a revised version very soon.

Raúl




El 11 ago. 2017, a las 21:00, vinton cerf <vgcerf at gmail.com<mailto:vgcerf at gmail.com>> escribió:

i agree that the chapters should have discretion as to how they advocate for ISOC's goals.
Regarding reporting - I'd like to see something more frequent than annually so that ISOC can put out a stream of notices during the year about what the chapters are doing but the 30 requirement is probably too tight. Could we make this a preference rather than a requirement?

v


On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Raul Echeberria <echeberria at isoc.org<mailto:echeberria at isoc.org>> wrote:

El 10 ago. 2017, a las 14:51, John More <morej1 at mac.com<mailto:morej1 at mac.com>> escribió:

I would agree that the specification that the promotion be made to “community leaders, press and regulators” presents problems and should be changed.  I would have thought it sufficient to require activity in support of ISOC’s general purposes and leave it to the Chapters to determine what was an appropriate and allowable purpose. The purpose is to deal with zombie Chapters where all you have is a leadership that does nothing except perhaps promote itself.

I also find objectionable the requirement for informing staff within 30 days of completion of an activity/event.  Why not just provide evidence annually about activities (including by newsletter, copies of event announcements).

The clause clearly needs revision.


Thanks John,


Raúl




John More


On Aug 10, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Brandt Dainow <brandt.dainow at gmail.com<mailto:brandt.dainow at gmail.com>> wrote:

I think it clear that the demand that all ISOC chapters must engage in political advocacy for ISOC objectives as a condition of being a chapter is unsustainable.  However, people want to interpret it, there is no doubt that promoting ISOC aims to “community leaders, press and regulators” has a clear aim of influencing policy development within a country.  There are many other ISOC objectives which can also be fulfilled, but which do not risk controversy.  While we have focused on legal limits on foreign-funded organisations, there are plenty of countries where this will generate wider social resentment, especially in countries with strong anti-colonialist or anti-US interference feelings.  Helping people get access to internet services, promoting technical standards, offering education, etc., are not activities which are likely to attract anything but positive reactions.  There is plenty any chapter can do to promote ISOC aims without this restrictive clause.  It is unsustainable as a formal command for chapter existence.  If chapters want to do it, there is nothing to stop them, but it should not be compulsory.


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From: Chapter-delegates [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Glenn McKnight
Sent: 10 August 2017 12:18
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Subject: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC donations/Beyond the Net

Interesting article from transparency.org<http://transparency.org/>  on the closing down of Civil Society in Azerbaijian and the their rules on not accepting monies from abroad.
As discussed before we need to be aware on how some chapters are at risk

https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/azerbaijan_closing_down_civil_society
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