[Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open
Richard Hill
rhill at hill-a.ch
Wed Jul 13 02:51:04 PDT 2016
I will input this to the ChAC Steering Committee.
Best,
Richard
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 09:21
To: Olga Cavalli; Sivasubramanian M
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Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open
Dear All,
following this great discussion, I would like to propose that the Ch
Advisory working group takes a close look at the various initiatives
offered by ISOC, targeted at helping chapters on capacity building for IG,
not only the NextGen Leaders and IGF Ambassador programs.
This will shed light on the existence and value of these initiatives, and
help address potential improvement areas.
Raul has listed many os these - thanks a lot Raul, and I am sure ISOC staff
can provide further information as needed.
I am happy to contribute in this effort if needed.
While I fully support programs aimed at specifically young potential
leaders, other programs should allow the full membership to gain benefit.
All the best,
Hosein Badran.
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:00:54 -0300
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CC: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open
Thanks Siva,
you read my mind!
There is a strong support to the idea that the rules should be revised,
specially the limit of the 40+
Hopefuly this will be taken in consideration.
Regards to all
Olga
2016-07-12 17:30 GMT-03:00 Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com>:
Surprised that after all this discussion on the list, the criteria remains
rigid as framed.
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Laurie Patton <ceo at internet.org.au> wrote:
So you are only interested in new leaders if they are under 40 then?
Thanks for making me feel so welcome!
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On 8 Jul 2016, at 16:26, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com> wrote:
+1 Alejandro,
The IGF Ambassadors program is under the Next Generation Leaders Programme,
https://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-genera
tion-leaders-ngl-programme
It makes full sense to target younger potential applicants.
Interesting to see many of those got involved into the Next Generation
Leaders progarmme are leaders in their respective positions.
Nadira
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
before everybody gets carried away... has anyone under 40 complained about
ageism yet?
This policy was established with several purposes and some of them at least
have been fulfilled successfully.
The premise is that a call based only on grounds of merit and experience has
a strong incentive to end up selecting largely the same set of people again
and again, in a self-reinfocing feedback cycle. (who has more experience and
more extensive networks than those who have attended most meetings?
Fresh insights and new people have to come into our system.
The policy of selecting under-40's has been very successful at least in our
chapter. The members who have attended workshops, IGFs, IETF, and ICANN
meetings have not only acquired knowledge and experience but also networks
of their own, with a younger generation as well as with the old, with
grassroots as well as with staff. Bringing in insights about today's
Internet and looking into its future, strongly committed, highly motivated..
just what we were 15 or 20 years ago!!
Now thanks to the policy we have a small group, in our case three layers
deep, of people who can and *will* take the reins of the Chapter in the near
future. So ISOC's pro-under-40 policy is actually helping our succession
planning - isnt' that a major responsibility we have in chapters? - for
free!
Do we have a problem left to deal with in funding participation for the most
experienced members? yes, no doubt. Olga, you are now a Trustee, it's upon
you (you have the power to change the things you do not like and to deliver
on the promise your statement implies), and on whoever succeeds you very
soon in your position in the Chapter Advisory Council as well.) (I'm sure
the CHAC is also considering this issue.)
Yours,
Alejandro Pisanty
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:29 PM, David Vyorst <dvyorst at gmail.com> wrote:
+1
+50
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On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris at gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank you very much Glenn,
Have the same feeling, for the ones over 50 , that actually have to work
hard to make the local IGF a reality, with almost no help from the former
fellows is discouraging. Hope this changes, not only in ISOC, but in some
other I Organizations, where it is not written, but at the end is the main
criteria.
Best
Ricardo Holmquist
El Thursday, July 7, 2016, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
escribió:
The call for IGF Ambassadors has opened for IGF Mexico.
Note the limitations
Selection criteria
IGF Ambassadorships are for young Internet Society members who have a strong
interest in the issues and themes of the IGF. Ambassadorship awards are
available for first-time and returning ambassadors. Selection for the
Ambassadorships is competitive. All applicants must be:
* between the ages of 20 and 40
* a member of the Internet Society
* able to present a strong motivation for attending the IGF meeting
* able to demonstrate interest and expertise in issues on the IGF
agenda
* able to demonstrate experience in leading Internet governance
discussions at the international level and in multi-cultural environments
* capable of appropriately represent the Internet Society and its
views and policies as an Ambassador during the IGF
* capable of continuing to work with the Internet Society locally
after the IGF.
I am curious how the Internet is for Everyone, but why does ISOC
continues to limit the ambassadors to under 40 years old. Interesting
since ARIN Fellowship or ICANN has removed this obvious discrimination
against dedicated volunteers
I wonder how many previous candidates actually worked with the local
chapters after the IGF.
Recently at ICANN we reviewed all the fellows based upon their
self-identified sectors and countries and the bias has been for World Least
Developed economies- this has meant that US territories in the South
Pacific, first Nations, poor and rural Americans were not eligible. We
have stated for years that this is unfair to Canadian and US first
nations/indigenous ( can be treated as independent tribal governments) .
ICANN is now reexamining their criteria with a noteworthy change to allow
first nations people to participate.
Does anyone else feel that ISOC's ambassador program suffers from ageism?
Glenn
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