[Chapter-delegates] Publicising ISOC Support of IG
Nadira Alaraj
nadira.araj at gmail.com
Sun Jul 10 11:42:58 PDT 2016
Hi Raul,
A fellowship program of just attending IG Fora/meetings is not effective
without having other dimension to it. Exactly as you've suggested,
capacity building or other engagement component accompanying this program
will give a better impact.
Hoping the Chapters Advisory Council Working Group will formulate a good
proposal as per Richard's note.
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Raul Echeberria <echeberria at isoc.org>
wrote:
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> El 10 jul. 2016, a las 13:22, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
> escribió:
>
> And that was supposed to read “feel good factor”.. Always remember to
> proof before hitting send!
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>
> :-)
>
> Thank you for your email James.
> And your point is very good.
> Be sure I will work with our Communications Team on that.
>
>
> Raúl
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>
> -JG
>
> From: Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> on
> behalf of James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
> Date: Sunday 10 July 2016 at 18:20
> To: Raul Echeberria <echeberria at isoc.org>, ISOC Chapter Delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Publicising ISOC Support of IG
>
> Hey Raul,
>
> Just taking this along a little bit of a tangent from the core thread,
>
> On 1) I think that ISOC needs to find a way to show and publicise that
> support network better, even as a chapter leader I was unaware of some of
> those things that ISOC was supporting and its really a ‘feel going factor’
> to be able to show that to our local members but also to promote ISOC as a
> organisation. ISOC gets flak sometimes for what it spends funds on so when
> we are spending funds in such impactful areas we really should find ways to
> show the impact and outcomes of these areas, its a great list, lets make
> sure everyone knows that we are doing all these things!
>
> -James
>
> From: Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> on
> behalf of Raul Echeberria <echeberria at isoc.org>
> Date: Sunday 10 July 2016 at 17:55
> To: ISOC Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open
>
>
>
> Richard, Nadira:
>
> I like your approach.
>
> We are now talking about 2 different things.
>
> The discussion started about a the “ageism” in the IGF Ambassador program.
> Now it becames how to support Chapters for attending IG fora/meetings.
>
> 1) With regard to the first topic. We have a lot of programs for
> supporting the engagement of the community in IG landscape and they are all
> very diverse.
>
> - We support the IGF secretariat.
> - We support IGFSA and though IGFSA we support National and Regional IGFs
> without any restriction.
> - Our Regional Bureaus support many initiatives run by other organizatios
> and they are involved in the organization of some others, to strengthen the
> involvement of the community in IG debate.
> one example is the South School on Internet Governance, an initiative led
> by Olga, with which ISOC contributes. And the funding we provide is used
> for funding fellows under they own criteria.
> This is another way to support the strengthening of community
> participation in IG
> - Same happen with the regional IGFs with which we contribute and we are
> involved in. In LACIGF for example, part of our contribution, together with
> others’ ones, are used not only for fellows to the regional meeting but
> also for the global IGF, under their own rules.
> - And many national IGF receive direct support from ISOC too,
> - Beside that we have also several fellows programs: IETF policy fellows,
> IETF tech fellows, fellow programs around specific meetings like the
> African Peering and Interconnection Forum, or Eurodig, and of course the
> Next Generations Leaders and the IGF Ambassadors.
> - We have also capacity building activities, that is another way to
> support community participation in IG. The NGL, Internet Governance for
> Policy Makers and we can organize more capacity building activities for
> more specific audiences (for example for chapters leaders or in partnership
> with a specific chapter for their community)
> - The regional chapters workshops are also an important initiative to get
> more people involved in IG and policy discussion.
> - Last but not least. We provide support to the chapters through Beyond
> the Net for organizing meeting with their local community and this is
> another very very important way to involve new people in IG discussion.
> - I’m sure I’m forgetting other things we do……..
>
> Internet Governance is not only the global IGF. We work in bringing people
> on board though all this myriad of options. And even speaking at the global
> IGF. There are many different sources of funding for the participation of
> the people.
> The global IGF is attended by probably 1500 people and I’m sure many of
> them are funded by different programs oriented to different kind of
> audiences.
>
> So, to the question about is there is some ageism in ISOC programs, my
> answer is No. There isn’t. We have a very diverse programas and activities
> that reach out a very diverse audience. In fact, I would say that ISOC
> surely is one of the organization with the most diverse activities around
> IG directed to the most diverse audience.
>
> As I said in my previous mail, it doesn’t mean we can not review all those
> activities, some of them, and/or the design of a specific one. In fact we
> do it. So, all your comments are not only welcomed, but very much
> appreciated.
>
>
> 2) We regard to the second topic: if what we are talking about is how we
> support Internet Society Chapters to attend different IG fora/meetings,
> this is a different discussion.
>
> I’m sure that many chapters members and chapters leaders are already being
> benefited by one or many of the initiatives i have listed above, but if
> this is one area where you think Chapters need more support, so what
> Richard and Nadira propose is very good. Let’s include this in the
> discussions about how to support better ISOC chapters.
> Many ideas come to my mind right now about this. We should not focus only
> in attending meetings but in capacity building in general. We could hold
> some of our Internet Leadership Program’s activities oriented specifically
> to chapter members and/or leaders. I would be more than happy to discuss it
> with you.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Raúl
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> El 10 jul. 2016, a las 05:39, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> escribió:
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> I will submit Nadira’s proposal below to the Chapters Advisory Council
> Working Group on Improving Support for Chapters. It seems to me to fit in
> well with one of the areas that was discussed at the first meeting of that
> working group.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> *From:* Chapter-delegates [
> mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
> <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>] *On Behalf Of *Nadira Alaraj
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2016 09:40
> *To:* Narelle Clark
> *Cc:* ISOC Chapter Delegates
> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open
>
>
> Yes, Narelle, applicants from all countries are eligible to the IGF
> Ambassador fellowship. However, it is good to push through to initiate a
> new fellowship program, open to all, as suggested on this thread. In the
> new fellowship program it must not only be directed to attending the IGF,
> but to all fora/meetings that are part of IG ecosystem and partially
> sponsored by ISOC.
> On Jul 10, 2016 6:09 AM, "Narelle" <narellec at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Glenn
> My understanding is that First Nations peoples from developed countries
> are eligible.
>
> This is a change I pushed through. It may be an oversight in the latest
> call.
>
>
> Narelle
>
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 14:36 Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The call for IGF Ambassadors has opened for IGF Mexico.
>
> Note the limitations
> Selection criteria
> IGF Ambassadorships are for young Internet Society members who have a
> strong interest in the issues and themes of the IGF. Ambassadorship awards
> are available for first-time and returning ambassadors. Selection for the
> Ambassadorships is competitive. All applicants must be:
> · *between the ages of 20 and 40*
> · a member of the Internet Society
> · able to present a strong motivation for attending the IGF meeting
> · able to demonstrate interest and expertise in issues on the IGF
> agenda
> · able to demonstrate experience in leading Internet governance
> discussions at the international level and in multi-cultural environments
> · capable of appropriately represent the Internet Society and its
> views and policies as an Ambassador during the IGF
> · capable of continuing to work with the Internet Society locally
> after the IGF.
> I am curious how the *Internet is for Everyone, *but why does ISOC
> continues to limit the ambassadors to under 40 years old. Interesting
> since ARIN Fellowship or ICANN has removed this obvious discrimination
> against dedicated volunteers
>
> I wonder how many previous candidates actually worked with the local
> chapters after the IGF.
>
> Recently at ICANN we reviewed all the fellows based upon their
> self-identified sectors and countries and the bias has been for World
> Least Developed economies- this has meant that US territories in the
> South Pacific, first Nations, poor and rural Americans were not
> eligible. We have stated for years that this is unfair to Canadian and
> US first nations/indigenous ( can be treated as independent tribal
> governments) . ICANN is now reexamining their criteria with a noteworthy
> change to allow first nations people to participate.
>
> Does anyone else feel that ISOC's ambassador program suffers from
> ageism?
>
> Glenn
>
> Glenn
>
> Glenn McKnight
> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
> skype gmcknight
> twitter gmcknight
> .
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