[Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open

Fri Jul 8 13:47:56 PDT 2016

So then someone who has volunteered at the chapter level for 6 years
wouldn't qualify??!!

David Vyorst
Co-Founder, Relay Station Digital Strategies

www.relaystationmedia.com
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@dvyo

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Irene Fariña <irefari at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I support Laurie's proposal. Rgs
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> El 7 jul 2016, a las 7:56 p.m., Laurie Patton <ceo at internet.org.au>
> escribió:
>
> Here's a simple solution. Instead of an age criteria, restrict the scheme
> to people who have less than, say, five years involvement with ISOC.
>
> Organisation's wishing to instil a philosophy of ongoing renewal and new
> thought leadership are making a mistake if they think the only people with
> new ideas are under 40.
>
> Declaration of interest. I joined Internet Australia (ISOC-AU) 18 months
> ago after an extensive career in broadcast television. I would like to be
> able to contribute my expertise, especially in marketing, government
> relations and stakeholder engagement. I am well over 40 though.
>
> Cheers
>
> LAURIE PATTON
> Chief Executive Officer | Internet Australia
>
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> On 8 Jul 2016, at 7:40 AM, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:
>
> This could be easily solved by removing this quota, but instituting
> another one - say that the goal is for the majority of the selected people
> to be under 40.
> There should not be discrimination, based on age, race, gender, or any
> other form. But there could be a requirement for more younger people to
> apply / be chosen.
> If there's an age limit, they may end up with no candidates at all, or no
> good candidates.
>
> v/
>
> On 07/07/16 17:18, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> before everybody gets carried away... has anyone under 40 complained about
> ageism yet?
>
> This policy was established with several purposes and some of them at
> least have been fulfilled successfully.
>
> The premise is that a call based only on grounds of merit and experience
> has a strong incentive to end up selecting largely the same set of people
> again and again, in a self-reinfocing feedback cycle. (who has more
> experience and more extensive networks than those who have attended most
> meetings?
>
> Fresh insights and new people have to come into our system.
>
> The policy of selecting under-40's has been very successful at least in
> our chapter. The members who have attended workshops, IGFs, IETF, and ICANN
> meetings have not only acquired knowledge and experience but also networks
> of their own, with a younger generation as well as with the old, with
> grassroots as well as with staff. Bringing in insights about today's
> Internet and looking into its future, strongly committed, highly
> motivated.. just what we were 15 or 20 years ago!!
>
> Now thanks to the policy we have a small group, in our case three layers
> deep, of people who can and *will* take the reins of the Chapter in the
> near future. So ISOC's pro-under-40 policy is actually helping our
> succession planning - isnt' that a major responsibility we have in
> chapters? - for free!
>
> Do we have a problem left to deal with in funding participation for the
> most experienced members? yes, no doubt. Olga, you are now a Trustee, it's
> upon you (you have the power to change the things you do not like and to
> deliver on the promise your statement implies), and on whoever succeeds you
> very soon in your position in the Chapter Advisory Council as well.)  (I'm
> sure the CHAC is also considering this issue.)
>
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:29 PM, David Vyorst <dvyorst at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>> +50
>>
>>
>> David Vyorst
>> Co-Founder, Relay Station Digital Strategies
>>
>> www.relaystationmedia.com
>> 202.841.2400
>> @dvyo
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you very much Glenn,
>>> Have the same feeling, for the ones over 50 , that actually have to work
>>> hard to make the local IGF a reality, with almost no help from the former
>>> fellows is discouraging. Hope this changes, not only in ISOC, but in some
>>> other I Organizations, where it is not written, but at the end is the main
>>> criteria.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Ricardo Holmquist
>>>
>>> El Thursday, July 7, 2016, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>> The call for IGF Ambassadors has opened for  IGF Mexico.
>>>>
>>>> Note the limitations
>>>> Selection criteria
>>>> IGF Ambassadorships are for young Internet Society members who have a
>>>> strong interest in the issues and themes of the IGF. Ambassadorship awards
>>>> are available for first-time and returning ambassadors. Selection for the
>>>> Ambassadorships is competitive. All applicants must be:
>>>>
>>>>    - *between the ages of 20 and 40*
>>>>    - a member of the Internet Society
>>>>    - able to present a strong motivation for attending the IGF meeting
>>>>    - able to demonstrate interest and expertise in issues on the IGF
>>>>    agenda
>>>>    - able to demonstrate experience in leading Internet governance
>>>>    discussions at the international level and in multi-cultural environments
>>>>    - capable of appropriately represent the Internet Society and its
>>>>    views and policies as an Ambassador during the IGF
>>>>    - capable of  continuing to work with the Internet Society locally
>>>>    after the IGF.
>>>>
>>>> I am curious  how  the  *Internet is for  Everyone, *but why does
>>>>  ISOC  continues to limit the ambassadors to under 40 years old.
>>>> Interesting since  ARIN  Fellowship or  ICANN has removed this obvious
>>>> discrimination against dedicated volunteers
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how many previous candidates actually worked with the local
>>>> chapters after the IGF.
>>>>
>>>> Recently at  ICANN  we reviewed all the fellows based upon their
>>>>  self-identified sectors and countries and the bias has been for  World
>>>> Least Developed economies- this has meant that  US  territories in the
>>>> South Pacific,  first Nations,  poor and rural  Americans  were not
>>>> eligible.  We have stated for  years that this is unfair to  Canadian and
>>>> US  first nations/indigenous ( can be treated as independent tribal
>>>> governments) .  ICANN is now  reexamining their criteria with a noteworthy
>>>> change to allow first nations people to participate.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone else feel  that  ISOC's  ambassador program suffers from
>>>> ageism?
>>>>
>>>> Glenn
>>>>
>>>> Glenn
>>>>
>>>> Glenn McKnight
>>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>>> skype  gmcknight
>>>> twitter gmcknight
>>>> .
>>>>
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