[Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open

Dave Burstein daveb at dslprime.com
Thu Jul 7 14:35:11 PDT 2016 

Alejandro

Would a good compromise be changing the wording, perhaps to "candidates
under 40 preferred"?

Still not perfect, but that leaves open the door while likely changing
little.

Dave

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> before everybody gets carried away... has anyone under 40 complained about
> ageism yet?
>
> This policy was established with several purposes and some of them at
> least have been fulfilled successfully.
>
> The premise is that a call based only on grounds of merit and experience
> has a strong incentive to end up selecting largely the same set of people
> again and again, in a self-reinfocing feedback cycle. (who has more
> experience and more extensive networks than those who have attended most
> meetings?
>
> Fresh insights and new people have to come into our system.
>
> The policy of selecting under-40's has been very successful at least in
> our chapter. The members who have attended workshops, IGFs, IETF, and ICANN
> meetings have not only acquired knowledge and experience but also networks
> of their own, with a younger generation as well as with the old, with
> grassroots as well as with staff. Bringing in insights about today's
> Internet and looking into its future, strongly committed, highly
> motivated.. just what we were 15 or 20 years ago!!
>
> Now thanks to the policy we have a small group, in our case three layers
> deep, of people who can and *will* take the reins of the Chapter in the
> near future. So ISOC's pro-under-40 policy is actually helping our
> succession planning - isnt' that a major responsibility we have in
> chapters? - for free!
>
> Do we have a problem left to deal with in funding participation for the
> most experienced members? yes, no doubt. Olga, you are now a Trustee, it's
> upon you (you have the power to change the things you do not like and to
> deliver on the promise your statement implies), and on whoever succeeds you
> very soon in your position in the Chapter Advisory Council as well.)  (I'm
> sure the CHAC is also considering this issue.)
>
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:29 PM, David Vyorst <dvyorst at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>> +50
>>
>>
>> David Vyorst
>> Co-Founder, Relay Station Digital Strategies
>>
>> www.relaystationmedia.com
>> 202.841.2400
>> @dvyo
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you very much Glenn,
>>> Have the same feeling, for the ones over 50 , that actually have to work
>>> hard to make the local IGF a reality, with almost no help from the former
>>> fellows is discouraging. Hope this changes, not only in ISOC, but in some
>>> other I Organizations, where it is not written, but at the end is the main
>>> criteria.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Ricardo Holmquist
>>>
>>> El Thursday, July 7, 2016, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>> The call for IGF Ambassadors has opened for  IGF Mexico.
>>>>
>>>> Note the limitations
>>>> Selection criteria
>>>>
>>>> IGF Ambassadorships are for young Internet Society members who have a
>>>> strong interest in the issues and themes of the IGF. Ambassadorship awards
>>>> are available for first-time and returning ambassadors. Selection for the
>>>> Ambassadorships is competitive. All applicants must be:
>>>>
>>>>    - *between the ages of 20 and 40*
>>>>    - a member of the Internet Society
>>>>    - able to present a strong motivation for attending the IGF meeting
>>>>    - able to demonstrate interest and expertise in issues on the IGF
>>>>    agenda
>>>>    - able to demonstrate experience in leading Internet governance
>>>>    discussions at the international level and in multi-cultural environments
>>>>    - capable of appropriately represent the Internet Society and its
>>>>    views and policies as an Ambassador during the IGF
>>>>    - capable of  continuing to work with the Internet Society locally
>>>>    after the IGF.
>>>>
>>>> I am curious  how  the  *Internet is for  Everyone, *but why does
>>>>  ISOC  continues to limit the ambassadors to under 40 years old.
>>>> Interesting since  ARIN  Fellowship or  ICANN has removed this obvious
>>>> discrimination against dedicated volunteers
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how many previous candidates actually worked with the local
>>>> chapters after the IGF.
>>>>
>>>> Recently at  ICANN  we reviewed all the fellows based upon their
>>>>  self-identified sectors and countries and the bias has been for  World
>>>> Least Developed economies- this has meant that  US  territories in the
>>>> South Pacific,  first Nations,  poor and rural  Americans  were not
>>>> eligible.  We have stated for  years that this is unfair to  Canadian and
>>>> US  first nations/indigenous ( can be treated as independent tribal
>>>> governments) .  ICANN is now  reexamining their criteria with a noteworthy
>>>> change to allow first nations people to participate.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone else feel  that  ISOC's  ambassador program suffers from
>>>> ageism?
>>>>
>>>> Glenn
>>>>
>>>> Glenn
>>>>
>>>> Glenn McKnight
>>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>>> skype  gmcknight
>>>> twitter gmcknight
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>
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