[Chapter-delegates] Internet of Things

Wed Feb 10 04:41:35 PST 2016

(español al final)

[ENG] I think putting first and last name to the problem, citing companies
or organizations, do not contribute to a serious discussion of the problem.
What we do in this way is to delve deeper irrational fanaticism on trade
policies of large companies. We could say that one of the mentioned Eric
uses a slave company to manufacture its devices icons. So we could be
fattening the list of objections, but without further discussion of the
problem.

Spying is not the only thing that makes me repudiate a company, also
abusive pricing practices, where a user pays $ 1,000 a device that
manufacture cost only $ 25. Or the company that blocks the repair of one of
its devices to generate exorbitant money on their official repair centers.
Or the company that patents blocking technologies or innovative devices
that change the industry, simply because this was not the company that
manufactures or to which it occurred to invent it.

So the Internet of Things have many faces, like a dodecahedron, each face
we watch, step by step, and the firmness to defend freedom of the network
and users, protect privacy. But all this from an objective and
non-fanatical vision that does not help our interests as an organization.

The technology today allows develop tools to limit, mitigate or nullify the
chances of spy through devices, then let the fanatical philosophy against a
company, other or all, and get to work to get open and secure standards,
free networks and which we monitor precisely that are not being used as
instruments of perverse spying of citizens. Seek allies in technology
related to our objectives in this regard, organizations and develop
standards, we improve existing, updated the policies and laws, from the
constructive work and not from the spurious criticism.

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[ESP] Creo que poniéndole nombre propia al problema, mencionando empresas,
no contribuimos a una discusión seria del problema. Lo que hacemos de esta
forma es ahondar más los fanatismos irracionales sobre políticas
comerciales de las grandes empresas. Bien podríamos decir que una de las
que menciona Eric, utiliza una empresa esclavista para la fabricación de
sus dispositivos íconos. Así podríamos estar engordando la lista de
objeciones, pero sin profundizar la discusión del problema.

No necesariamente el espionaje me hace repudiar una empresa, también las
prácticas abusivas de precios, donde un usuario paga $1000 un dispositivo
que costó fabricarlo sólo $25. O aquella empresa que bloquea la reparación
de uno de sus dispositivos para generar ingresos exorbitantes en sus
centros oficiales de reparación. O aquella empresa que bloquea patentes de
tecnologías o dispositivos innovadores que cambiarían la industria,
simplemente porque no fue ésta empresa la que lo fabrica o a la que se le
ocurrió inventarlo.

Así que el Internet de las cosas tiene muchas caras, como un dodecaedro,
deberemos atender cada una de ellas paso a paso y con la firmeza de
defender la libertad de la red y de los usuarios, proteger la privacidad.
Pero todo ello desde una visión objetiva y no fanática que no ayuda a
nuestros intereses como organización.

La tecnología hoy permite desarrollar herramientas que limiten, mitiguen o
anulen las posibilidades de espiarnos a través de los dispositivos,
entonces dejemos la filosofía fanática contra una empresa, otra o todas, y
pongámonos a trabajar para conseguir estándares abiertos y seguros, redes
libres y a las cuales vigilemos precisamente para que no se estén
utilizando como instrumentos perversos de espionaje de los ciudadanos.
Busquemos aliados en la tecnología, organizaciones afines a  nuestros
objetivos en este sentido, y desarrollemos estándares, mejoremos los
existentes, actualicemos las políticas y las leyes, trabajemos desde lo
constructivo y no desde la crítica espuria.

saludos,

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2016-02-10 9:02 GMT-03:00 Eric Burger <eburger at standardstrack.com>:

> It is a more simple question: does history repeat itself or do we learn
> from history.
>
> History repeating itself: Let’s do something like Google that is so easy
> to use and so pervasive so the intelligence community has a single place to
> go to spy on people.
>
> Learning from history: Let’s do something like Lavabit or Apple’s alleged
> “throw away the key” and make it so *no one* can get meaningful data to
> spy on people.
>
> The choice is ours.
>
> This sounds like a great opportunity for Chapters to be out in front
> educating users, governments, and developers about the right way to create
> IoT infrastructure and applications.
>
> On Feb 10, 2016, at 1:07 AM, Jahangir Hossain <jrjahangir at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> Thanks for sharing this news. Now this is seems to be interesting from IoT
> architecture views  . Is privacy dead in future technology ?
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> US intelligence chief: we might use the internet of things to spy on you
>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/09/internet-of-things-smart-home-devices-government-surveillance-james-clapper
>>
>>
>> Glenn McKnight
>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
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