[Chapter-delegates] ChAC Decision Needed: Proposal for greater Chapter participation in developing position & policy briefs

Carlos Vera cveraq at gmail.com
Mon Aug 22 10:57:37 PDT 2016


*English*

When discussing Internet, and related issues, we are in a global scenario.
But every country and region have their own legal framework, structure and
needs. Who better than local people to understand and interact on that?

I'm strongly in favor of a more deeper participation of chapters in every
discussion about policies or public statements from Isoc as an
international body. With master lines in course, coming from chapters,
staff and other isoc bodies can work on redact or elaborate a paper
position.

Any public position of Isoc, should be in the highest interest of freedom
and development of Internet always and the chapters's voices are
fundamental for this purpose. It's our challenge to make that voice be
heard.

*Español*

Cuando se habla de Internet, y temas relacionados nos encontramos en un
escenario global . Pero cada país y región tienen su propio marco legal,
estructura y necesidades. ¿Quién entonces mejor que las personas locales
para comprender e interactuar basados en esto?

Estoy muy a favor de una participación más profunda de todos los capítulos
en la discusión acerca de las políticas o declaraciones públicas de Isoc
como un organismo internacional. Con las líneas maestras en curso ,
procedentes de los capítulos, el personal y otros cuerpos de ISOC puede
trabajar en redactar o elaborar un documento de posición.

Cualquier posición pública de la ISOC, debe estar en el más alto interés de
la libertad y el desarrollo de Internet siempre y las voces de los
capítulos son fundamentales para este fin . Es nuestro reto de hacer que se
oiga esta voz.

Carlos Vera
Isoc Ecuador

2016-08-22 12:31 GMT-05:00 John More <morej1 at mac.com>:

> Christopher
>
> You are proposing a different ISOC than the program-based organization we
> have.  In particular, you trying to make staff a secretariat and claiming
> staff is not any better were rejected when the Charter was drafted by the
> consensus of the drafting committee.
>
> On the other hand your suggestion that Chapters take the initiative to
> prepare policy recommendations (vs. “statement”) is clearly something that
> the ChAC is structured to encourage.
>
> John  More
>
> > On Aug 21, 2016, at 5:40 PM, CW Mail <mail at christopherwilkinson.eu>
> wrote:
> >
> > Good evening:
> >
> > I have read the proposal for greater involvement of Chapters …
> > In general I support this initiative, based as it is on one of the
> primary objectives of the Chapters' Advisory Council as proposed in 2010.
> >
> > I would however suggest that the role of the ISOC staff is overstated in
> the proposed text.
> >
> > (a)   ISOC staff should act as the secretariat for the membership.
> >
> > (b)   In most areas of policy, particularly those with a regional or
> national dimension, the staff do not have any better professional or
> political appreciation than our membership.
> >
> > ( c)  It must be made quite clear by the staff that they do not intend
> to use their safeguards in the present draft text to override the opinion
> of the Chapters concerned.
> >
> > (d)   Interested Chapters should take the initiative to prepare relevant
> policy statements for the Internet Society either regionally or globally.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > CW
> >
> >
> > On 19 Aug 2016, at 21:11, avri doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear ChAC delegates,
> >>
> >> The ChAC Steering Committee has reviewed "A proposal for greater
> >> involvement of Chapters in the position and policy brief development
> >> process"  (below & attached) and is submitting it to the Chapter Council
> >> for approval.
> >>
> >> Decisions by the ChAC are governed by the Rules & Procedure paragraph 6
> >>
> >>> Substantive decisions, in particular regarding advice and
> >>> recommendations, shall be made by the AC. Decisions may be made by
> >>> electronic means (e.g. E-Mail, electronic voting systems, etc.) or
> >>> during remote (audio/video conferencing) or physical meetings.
> >>> Decisions shall normally be taken by consensus (meaning lack of formal
> >>> opposition). If consensus cannot be achieved, then the Chair of the AC
> >>> Steering Committee shall organize a vote. In case of voting, decisions
> >>> shall be taken by a majority vote of the delegates to the AC. The
> >>> quorum shall be nineteen (19) delegates. In case of tie, the matter
> >>> will be resubmitted for discussion and a new vote. Votes will be
> >>> secret. The tally of votes (for, against, abstain, did not vote) will
> >>> be published. Abstentions will be counted towards determining the
> quorum.
> >>
> >> At this point I would like to open discussion on this proposal for the
> >> next week - until 8/27 1200 UTC.  At that point I will initiate a
> >> consensus call on the document, including any changes that may be
> >> warranted as part of the discussion.  This consensus call will also be
> >> scheduled for 1 week.  Should the document not meet with consensus, I
> >> will then request that we continue discussion on it and will bring it to
> >> a vote.
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> Avri Doria
> >>
> >> (for the ChAC SC)
> >>
> >>
> >> -----
> >>
> >> *A proposal for greater involvement of Chapters in the position and
> >> policy brief development process*
> >>
> >> *Background*
> >>
> >> In the past, there have been occasions when ISOC staff met with national
> >> policy makers without involving the national chapter in any way. Since
> >> national chapters often have good relations with national officials, it
> >> would be preferable if the chapters are also involved in meetings with
> >> national officials. We propose a recommendation below to that effect.
> >>
> >> At present, there does not seem to be a consistent practice within ISOC
> >> regarding the role of the membership in the policy development
> >> process and the preparation of background and position papers that ISOC
> >> puts forward. Specifically, some policy papers are submitted to the
> >> membership for comment, specifically the policy briefs, while others
> >> papers, such as position papers, are not. In one case, the membership
> >> was not informed of a specific submission. It appears to us that
> >> systematic consultation with the membership can only improve the quality
> >> of a policy, background paper, or position paper. The intent is not to
> >> change ISOC's current decision-making process for such papers: staff
> >> would remain fully responsible for the final version of the paper. The
> >> intent is to allow staff to benefit systematically from the views of the
> >> membership, and to decide whether or how to incorporate comments from
> >> the membership. We propose a recommendation below to that effect.
> >>
> >>
> >> *Recommendations*
> >>
> >> Review with the relevant chapters, policy positions and alliances before
> >> they are made, and inform them of meetings with national policy
> >> makers, unless time constraints do not permit it. We have active mailing
> >> lists that can make it quick and easy.
> >>
> >> In general, policy, background and position papers, including policy
> >> briefs should be submitted to the membership for comment prior to
> >> publication, with the understanding that staff retains full ownership
> >> for the final version. Staff can choose the most appropriate method to
> >> consult the membership, for example by asking for volunteers to review
> >> drafts, by posting a draft for comment to a mailing list, by convening a
> >> virtual meeting to discuss the issues, etc.
> >>
> >> Further, when papers are published and/or submitted to some entity
> >> outside ISOC, the membership should be informed and a link to the paper
> >> should be sent to the appropriate mailing list and to the Chapter
> >> Delegate's mailing list just prior to the publication or submission.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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