[Chapter-delegates] ISOC-NY President Resigns

Fri Apr 8 04:24:53 PDT 2016

Thank you very much Raúl!

“Clarity” would be the best help from our perspective. 2 years ago 
it was our expectation that we could count with up to $2000/year. Last 
year the expectation was raised to $3´500/year. But each of our 
requests was returned with warnings that we have missed deadlines and 
that we had´t read the small print, etc. etc. The amounts possible keep 
increasing, but the conditions keep also evolving and we don´t have a 
CFO that can keep track of all the new programs. We just need some basic 
local administrative and membership support we can count on before we go 
out and do bigger shows.

Best regards

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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On 7 Apr 2016, at 21:45, Raul Echeberria wrote:

> Dear all:
>
> I am following this thread with a lot of attention and taking notes of 
> what is said.
> As Joyce has pointed out, we already spend good amount of resources on 
> what we think are ways to support our chapters, but not necessarily 
> are the things chapters need more.
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> I’m very interested in having this discussion to see if we can agree 
> of what we really need. Some things could be affordable, others not. 
> But we will know that only if we understand better what are the needs.
>
> The new Chapter Advisory Council and its steering committee should be 
> catalyzers in that discussion.
>
> Let’s take advantage of this new structure.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Raúl
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> El 7 abr. 2016, a las 9:16 p.m., John More 
> <morej1 at mac.com<mailto:morej1 at mac.com>> escribió:
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> Keith and others -
>
> Great points.
>
> Based on my lengthy experience with organizations that have local 
> chapters, I have long advocated that ISOC to be really effective 
> should create a structure where Chapters would have local paid staff 
> — both administrative and more importantly ISOC-trained local 
> organizers to do the higher level activities of supporting the Board 
> and volunteers in carrying out local/country Chapter activities, 
> recruiting new active volunteers, organizing events, raising local 
> funds, etc.  Few volunteers are just sitting around with nothing to 
> do, and so that have to work double-time or short-change their other 
> business or interests.
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> I note that Chapters need to be accountable funding from ISOC should 
> be linked with Chapters’ raising local funds — based upon what 
> might be reasonable for the local economy.  Otherwise the Chapter has 
> no ownership and is just receiving a gift.
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> We should recognize that it is not as if ISOC does not provide a wide 
> range of support for Chapters, including training, grants for events, 
> and funds for projects.
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> I have proposed this proven model of how to create and maintain 
> effective chapters to various Society leaders.  Still waiting for at 
> least a serious effort to see what this would look like and how it 
> might work. A good project fir the new Chapter Advisory Council.
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> John
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> The Greater Washington DC Chapter
>        of the Internet Society
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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Keith Davidson 
> <keith at internetnz.net.nz<mailto:keith at internetnz.net.nz>> wrote:
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> Hello Sivasubramanian, all,
>
> It certainly is an option to provide some funding to a chapter. But I 
> wonder if there might be greater value from resources provided by 
> ISOC. In the Asia Pacific area, for example, it could be possible to 
> add staff to the AP Regional Bureau, who's role is specifically to 
> support chapters in the region. So you could have multiple chapters 
> receiving secretarial and treasury support, website maintenance, 
> membership recruitment, further chapter development etc, and all could 
> have consistency in terms of overarching ISOC principles, strategy 
> etc.
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> I think the first step of freeing up the Chapter folks to concentrate 
> on what they want to achieve, rather than remaining bogged down in 
> administration, would be a great start.
>
> Cheers
>
> Keith
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> On 08-Apr-16 11:31 AM, Sivasubramanian M wrote:
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> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Keith Davidson 
> <keith at internetnz.net.nz<mailto:keith at internetnz.net.nz>
> <mailto:keith at internetnz.net.nz>> wrote:
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>    It would be of extreme benefit to the chapters if ISOC could 
> provide
>    administrative staff to undertake these functions.
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> Keith,
>
> Would be good for Chapters to have administrative assistance, but
> Chapters might find it easier if it is in the form of a revolving 
> budget
> for chapters to engage local staff, or to cover the costs of a local
> office.
>
> Sivasubramanian M
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