[Chapter-delegates] questions to the candidates for the BoT

Wed Apr 6 08:52:29 PDT 2016

Carlos,

ICANN indeed has a policy in which government officials or employees in
areas that shape policy cannot be Directors (it does leave room for
researchers and academics in public institutions.) That is due to the fact
that ICANN actually makes policy (in its technical-coordination role) that
becomes binding. Further: in 2003 we had an extensive reform of ICANN; we
analyzed whether the GAC should elect or appoint Directors to the Board and
the GAC itself concluded that no, they wouldn't, because it would make
government representatives subject to all the legal liabiliities of ICANN
in case of litigation.

For ISOC there isn't an explicit rule like that. What we do need to observe
is whether a Trustee elected by the chapters is independent enough. People
subject to their bosses' instructions for their participation in ISOC and
in the Board of Trustees are correctly present in the Advisory Council of
the Organizational Members. That is the healthy way in which ISOC brings
diverse and sometimes opposed stakeholders together. We would not do well
in breaking that balance.

There is also the option that a Trustee may have to recuse her/himself from
certain discussions in which she/he lack independence or are otherwise in
conflict of interest. It is preferable in general to avoid this situation
when it can be predicted. Many of us have seen it happen in other
organizations and get to a point that an elected Board member ends up
resigning, because the number of recusations makes him/her ineffective.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. <crg at isoc-cr.org>
wrote:

> Dear Alejandro, Olga
>
> ICANN has a strict policy that no member of the Board can for part of any
> Government. Is there any similar provision in ISOCs Bylaws?
>
> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
> +506 8837 7176
> Skype: carlos.raulg
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> On 6 Apr 2016, at 9:19, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>
> Veni,
>>
>> I fully agree with you on the need to support the discussion on email. I
>> have twice formulated a question ont he Connect platform and don't see it
>> recorded so here it is:
>>
>> Olga, last Monday in  a LACRALO conference call you presented the GAC's
>> views on the IANA Transition. You have been the GAC representative for
>> Argentina for many years. As you explained, all GAC representatives are
>> subject to instructions from their governments. In fact as GAC rep you
>> have
>> had to change positions radically following instructions, and some times
>> against regional agreements with all other stakeholders. I can provide
>> specific instances if required. You have been required to align with a
>> governmental-preeminence position several times, the latest among which is
>> the Organization of American States (OAS) position on Cybersecurity, which
>> is governments+firms only.
>>
>> I understand it is part of the job, but this is not the level of
>> independence we need in Trustees, and as far as I can see it contradicts
>> your statement as candidate. Andrei and Mohammed are clearly not bound in
>> this way.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Olga!
>>> While it is understandable the desire of ISOC to keep everything on
>>> Connect, perhaps we should note that there are chapters, which are in
>>> countries with limited connectivity? A mailing list, where people ask
>>> questions and receive answers may be also a good thing. And someone at
>>> ISOC
>>> could copy and paste them in the Connect for those of us, who are using
>>> it.
>>>
>>> We have already enough lists and forums, and social media, imho.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Olga Cavalli <olgacavalli at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Veni,
>>>>
>>>> If you login in Connect, then you find a link to:
>>>>
>>>> 2016 Candidate Forum for Chapters
>>>> <
>>>> https://connect.internetsociety.org/communities/community-home/?CommunityKey=d81c61b2-2a2f-4e30-8d0c-5a728b710f28
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> There you can find the questions and answers from candidates, also new
>>>> questions can be posted.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Olga
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-04-06 11:56 GMT-03:00 Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Andrei Kolesnikov sent me this:
>>>>>
>>>>> There are discussions going in 2016 Candidate forum for chapters and so
>>>>> for organizations.
>>>>> For instance
>>>>>
>>>>> https://connect.internetsociety.org/home?utm_source=Top%20link&utm_medium=site&utm_campaign=Main%20website%20top%20link
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, everyone.
>>>>>> There are two weeks left for the elections of the BoT; could someone
>>>>>> point to the page, where there's a discussion of views of the
>>>>>> candidates?
>>>>>> I don't see a link here:
>>>>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/2016-board-trustees-nominees or here:
>>>>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/trustees
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Veni Markovski
>>>>>> Internet Society - Bulgariahttp://isocbg.wordpress.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Veni
>>>>> http://veni.com
>>>>> https://facebook.com/venimarkovski
>>>>> https://twitter.com/veni
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>>> Veni
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