[Chapter-delegates] Fw: Pease Read
Sean Turner
turners at ieca.com
Thu Jan 29 10:29:44 PST 2015
Love it when we eat our own dog food*!
spt
* another way of saying practice what you preach
On Jan 29, 2015, at 12:34, Lia Kiessling <kiessling at isoc.org> wrote:
> Hi Klaus et all
>
> Klaus I've responded to you personally but thought it would also be great to post here so others are looped in.
>
> Thank you for always being an advocate of our site - it's great to have a strong and passionate community! You are correct - the homepage only has been experiencing some blips on the multilingual side but this is now resolved and the translated content should start appearing as early as tomorrow.
>
> I'd also like to take the chance to invite others to be a part of our accessibility working group. We've got a great team started. If you'd be interested in being a part of it please send me an email and I can send you more details. If you can't formally be a part of the group but would like to follow along on discussions, contribute ideas, share best-practices, and being a part of web accessibility goal setting you will be more than welcome. We'll have more details on how you can be a part of this is the coming days. Please feel free to get in touch with me any time about this.
>
> Thanks again to all for helping to ensure we are moving towards a great web presence
>
> Lia
>
>
>>> From: Klaus Birkenbihl <Klaus.Birkenbihl at Isoc.de>
>>> Date: January 29, 2015 at 2:50:57 PM GMT+1
>>> To: Kathy Brown <brown at isoc.org>
>>> Cc: "chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Once again: accessibility and ISOC's website [was: Happy new year!]
>>>
>>> is it always me to disclose Web-site oddities?
>>>
>>> After talking about ISOC being a multilingual organization on the European
>>> chapters workshop this morning, I decided to practice some multilingualism
>>> and payed a visit to our new home page which proudly offers:
>>>
>>> * العربية <http://www.internetsociety.org/ar>
>>> * 简体中文 <http://www.internetsociety.org/zh-hans>
>>> * English <http://www.internetsociety.org/>
>>> * Français <http://www.internetsociety.org/fr>
>>> * Русский <http://www.internetsociety.org/ru>
>>> * Español <http://www.internetsociety.org/es>
>>>
>>> Wow! I decided to challenge my 中文
>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/zh-hans>. Surprise! Though my skills are
>>> rather basic I could read everything. Guess what: the same applies
>>> for every translation exceptEspañol <http://www.internetsociety.org/es>.
>>>
>>> Though not by intend: if you are a native 中国人 and don't speek
>>> English you might feel fooled.
>>>
>>> Klaus
>>>
>>> Kathy Brown schrieb am 09.01.2015 um 13:00:
>>>> Klaus and all,
>>>>
>>>> We did, indeed, pick up your message --I meant to reply yesterday but the day got away from me. We take time, though, to talk through your very helpful intervention and to make some immediate improvements as per your recommendations.
>>>>
>>>> As you rightly point out, we need to bake accessibility into our design and initial planning for all communication. I agree that it is a quality issue. It is also a "principle" issue. If we say that the Internet is for everyone, we better mean everyone.
>>>>
>>>> We are about to begin an upgrade for the ISOC site. Now is the time to set the design and quality standards for all aspects of our communications. The BY THE NUMBERs piece was an attempt to make data alive--something I think that is very important. Help us think through and perfect how to make these type of design experiments work for everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Lia Kiessling will be point on this for Staff. Expert input is key to the process so I asked her to reach out to you. There's also the Disability and Special Needs Chapter that both you and Lia can coordinate with. I believe you have Lia's Skype details so I'll leave it with the two of you to start this needed process.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, again, for your quick, thorough and helpful contribution. We all, together, need to continue to build the Internet and the Internet Society for everyone.
>>>> Kathy Brown
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 9, 2015, at 4:27 AM, Klaus Birkenbihl <Klaus.Birkenbihl at Isoc.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Gunela and Judith,
>>>>
>>>> Gunela, I appreciate your paper
>>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/internet-accessibility-internet-use-persons-disabilities-moving-forward
>>>> (crazy enough it doesn't mention you authored it). And I'm not saying
>>>> we are bad at preaching. But we often forget to drink the water we preach.
>>>>
>>>> So we should not be overly optimistic. Accessibility is part of
>>>> quality. Given that we have this discussion since 3 years now and
>>>> neither tools, procedures nor means for quality assurance have been
>>>> installed, and given the observation that this topic is treated
>>>> carelessly, I'm afraid that hope alone will not make it. Asimple bug
>>>> tracker would provide the means to properly handle issues and is
>>>> minimum state of the art today.
>>>>
>>>> But good news (and a new experience): somebody obviously picked my
>>>> message up quickly and provided alt texts at least for
>>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/. (Maybe it was already done when
>>>> Gunela checked the page after my mail. The page source I downloaded at
>>>> 2015-01-08 08:50UTC has no alt texts at all for the main part of the
>>>> page).
>>>>
>>>> Best, Klaus
>>>>
>>>> Judith Hellerstein schrieb am 09.01.2015 um 02:04:
>>>>> HI Gunella,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your very helpful note. Glenn and I have been working on
>>>>> these same issues with Paul Brigner, the North American Regional
>>>>> Director and he is very much wanting to make the site, the videos
>>>>> that his region generates, and the events that NA Chapters hold more
>>>>> accessible. We talked to him about the need for captioning of
>>>>> events and the short videos that ISOC does. We are hoping for many
>>>>> changes and positive moves on accessibility front now that ISOC has
>>>>> a new Communications Director James Wood. Glenn and I shared with
>>>>> Paul and others in ISOC the excellent session that Pat Graves had
>>>>> done for the ICANN Technology Task Force and also introduced Pat
>>>>> Graves to Paul Brigner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's hope for an increased accessibility of ISOC events, videos,
>>>>> and website for the coming year
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Judith Hellerstein
>>>>>
>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>>> Hellerstein & Associates
>>>>> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>>> Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>>>> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com
>>>>> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/
>>>>> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/8/2015 3:42 PM, Gunela Astbrink wrote:
>>>>>> Happy New Year everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I've done for years, I support improved accessibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you to Klaus for updating us on the accessibility status of
>>>>>> ISOC's website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do note that some of the alt tags on the home page are empty
>>>>>> while many images are well-described. However, there are a number
>>>>>> of other accessibility issues including the need to caption videos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that ISOC made an effort a few years to make its website
>>>>>> accessible. The problem is that if there isn't an embedded
>>>>>> principle of accessibility within ISOC's communication policy and
>>>>>> practice (including guides and templates), as the website changes
>>>>>> accessibility may be forgotten. This also relates to the level of
>>>>>> staff awareness of accessibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remain hopeful that ISOC's website will meet and then retain
>>>>>> W3C's WCAG 2.0 Level AA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know some staff support accessibility especially in Chapters
>>>>>> including the Community Grants program of which the Australian
>>>>>> Chapter has been successful in running capacity-building and
>>>>>> awareness training in the Asia-Pacific region.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, the central work of ISOC HQ is vital. This goes beyond web
>>>>>> accessibility. Further details are in the paper I wrote for ISOC:
>>>>>> "Internet Accessibility: Internet use by persons with disabilities:
>>>>>> Moving Forward"
>>>>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/internet-accessibility-internet-use-persons-disabilities-moving-forward>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is useful to see that organisations such as ICANN, ITU and IGF
>>>>>> are all working on accessibility in different ways.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN - RFP for web accessibility analysis
>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-12-23-en
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ITU - a number of actions including Resolution 175 (rev) from the
>>>>>> 2014 Plenipotentiary, internal accessibility, incorporating
>>>>>> accessibility in standards development and encouraging Member
>>>>>> States to improve ICT accessibility.
>>>>>> https://itu4u.wordpress.com/2014/12/02/renewing-itus-mandate-to-promote-ict-accessibility/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IGF - Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and Disability. Its latest
>>>>>> output is a guide to accessible meetings.
>>>>>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/documents/dynamic-coalitions/dynamic-coalition-on-accessibility-and-disability/258-igf-2014-dcad-accessibility-guidelines-final-v5/file
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I look forward to working with ISOC on accessibility in 2015. We
>>>>>> may see good things happening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Gunela
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Klaus Birkenbihl said the following on 8/01/15 20:17 :
>>>>>>> Happy new year to everybody!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Following Kathy's Onto 2015! HNY
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/KathrynCBrown/status/552942319238799360>! I
>>>>>>> ended
>>>>>>> up on this page:
>>>>>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/internet-society-numbers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow a lot of info, a lot of figures, some meaningless but some
>>>>>>> impressive. And a great artwork.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From there I payed a visit to our home page
>>>>>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/> . New layout
>>>>>>> big images, not too much text ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From there I checked weather we still think accessibility is
>>>>>>> important. Yes we do "Internet Accessibility: Internet use by
>>>>>>> persons with disabilities: Moving Forward"
>>>>>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/internet-accessibility-internet-use-persons-disabilities-moving-forward>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is still out there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is an ongoing promise since the last relaunch of our
>>>>>>> precious home site that we at ISOC will follow the principles
>>>>>>> we published in the before mentioned document.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The most simple, famous and first rule to achieve accessibility
>>>>>>> is "Provide text alternatives for any non-text content so that
>>>>>>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/#text-equiv>
>>>>>>> it can be changed into other forms people need, such as
>>>>>>> large print, braille, speech, symbols or simpler language.
>>>>>>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/#text-equiv>"
>>>>>>> HTML, the source language of Web pages provides easy
>>>>>>> means to do so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After so many years of discussion, delay, lip prayers one
>>>>>>> has to learn things are getting worse. Nearly all alternative
>>>>>>> texts for pictures on "http://www.internetsociety.org/" are
>>>>>>> "" (nullstring, nothing, nix nada!). You might argue, that the
>>>>>>> images are decorative only. Hm, they cover 80% of the
>>>>>>> page - so even this should be explained.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But on the top of the tops you find
>>>>>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/internet-society-numbers.
>>>>>>> All info in a pixle (png) file no alt text no underlying link,
>>>>>>> and all text within the graph in a small - even for somebody
>>>>>>> who is not visually impaired - nearly unreadable print.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This wonderful artwork would have been the case for
>>>>>>> a wonderful technology - part of HTML5 and processed by
>>>>>>> all modern browsers - called SVG! With at least the
>>>>>>> following advantages:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * provides better accessibility
>>>>>>> * provides searchability
>>>>>>> * can be infinitely scaled (without breaking apart into pixle
>>>>>>> squares)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wish you all a usable and accessible 2015 - at least outside ISOC,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Klaus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS.: In case you want to read the contents of
>>>>>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/internet-society-numbers
>>>>>>> I recommend
>>>>>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/sites/default/files/Internet%20Society%20By%20The%20Numbers.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Internet Society German Chapter e.V. (ISOC.DE)
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