[Chapter-delegates] ISOC - CL : Update on our identity work

[Winthrop Yu]

   Regarding the dichotomy between community activists and academia, aside from 
having academics within the chapter, here where academic thinking and research 
on Internet matters is new and thus less fixed or tracked (more flexible), we 
(tech advocates) find that we can assist and therefore shape the thinking and 
research. I suppose the efficacy of this depends on the number and nature of the 
interactions and engagements. (e.g. ISOC-PH was invited to but unable to attend 
a recent meeting of our National Academy of Science and Technology on Internet 
infra, so instead we sent them a short 5 page letter on the topic.)

   We've also had fairly good coordination and assistance from ISOC global, 
regional, as well as other I* orgs such as APNIC for (with and through its 
chapters) local engagements here. We hope to improve that with practice. At the 
moment, my "top-down" complaint would be with new platforms such as this one - 
Connect (much more constrained bulletin board-like functionality than even old 
email lists) and ISOC Learn (user credential / authentication issues, etc.)

WYn



On 12/12/2015 1:30 AM, Christian de Larrinaga via Internet Society wrote:
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> Lia
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> What a neat post. I could take those three comments  you posted and could put the date 2001 on them with one exception. We'd  then have called IoT something else, such as networking devices.
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> In  summary and to paraphrase rather ruthlessly these interesting  observations.
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> - ISOC is trusted where it is known but it is not  known sufficiently to make the difference that would stick.
> - ISOC  participation suffers from a form of schizophrenic personality disorder.  On one hand it attracts hands on community activists on the other ivory  tower theorists. (Is the problem here they don't work well together?)
> -  ISOC organisationally operates more top down than bottom up and not in a  helpful way to the cause.
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> Seems pretty clear that you've got to  a useful summary to work from.
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> If ISOC is seriously wanting to  achieve some global traction then personally I'd start with the cause.  That is what the board decided as the purpose of ISOC in the new bye  laws.
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> Then I'd consider how to invert the mechanisms for  delivering on that cause to work via and through chapters, in concert  and guided by staff, org members and IETF etc to ensure a joined up  Agenda bash, communications and content delivery and follow through.
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> Chapters  complain that they are still treated as outside the tent and for as  long as that lasts, ISOC is going to miss its potential substantially.??  That message is as I say above over fifteen years old now.
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> Working  on why ISOC resists delivering on the cause with and through its  chapters is probably the most challenging and important task for  developing the Society's identity.??
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> Christian
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> Lia  Kiessling via Internet Society wrote:
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