[Chapter-delegates] On my way to IGF 2014...
Louis Houle
louis.houle at oricom.ca
Tue Sep 2 15:27:20 PDT 2014
So do I
Have a nice day!
Louis Houle
President
ISOC Quebec
Le 2014-08-30 01:44, Richard Hill a écrit :
> Dear Alejandro
>
> I fully agree with your comments below.
>
> Thanks and best
> Richard
>
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Alejandro Pisanty
> Date:29/08/2014 23:08 (GMT+01:00)
> To: Richard Hill
> Cc: Kathy Brown ,ISOC Chapter Delegates
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] On my way to IGF 2014...
>
> Richard,
>
> there is unmistakable difference between Jeremy Malcolm's expression
> of concern under the EFF letterhead and Kathy's "food for thought"
> analysis and discussion starter for ISOC.
>
> ISOC's concern has to be whether a new room and a new table are
> needed, not about seats at the table. And, if new mechanisms are going
> to start functioning, how to articulate them in such a way that
> central, overarching points of control are not created, esp. with
> built-in power imbalances that are hard to revert.
>
> We should also analyze whether the mobilization started at the WEF is
> mostly a mobilization of the for-profit sector; that would mean that
> organizations like the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) have
> been deemed insufficient to represent this sector (for whatever reason.)
>
> Another important angle in the announcements made and discussions held
> at the WEF is the possible protagonic role of some countries. The
> educated observer would be watching their behaviour going into the ITU
> Plenipotentiary before judging the truth of their "multistakeholder"
> colors.
>
> In all of this, I think ISOC's concern has to be in stewardship - not
> control - of the broadly decentralized, rather spontaneous emergence
> of issue-based Internet governance, vis-a-vis the creation of a
> structure that will be happy to receive others in pre-affixed pigeonholes.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch
> <mailto:rhill at hill-a.ch>> wrote:
>
> Dear Kathy,
>
> Thank you very much for this. The Electronic Freedom Foundation
> has also expressed some reservations regarding the WEF activities,
> see:
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/08/internet-governance-and-netmundial-initiative-flawed-attempt-turning-words-action
>
> And I've heard similar things privately.
>
> Thanks again and best,
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Chapter-delegates
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> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>]*On Behalf
> Of *Kathy Brown
> *Sent:* vendredi, 29. août 2014 20:01
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> *Subject:* [Chapter-delegates] On my way to IGF 2014...
>
> To my ISOC Colleagues,
>
> I am writing as I fly to Istanbul with much anticipation for a
> week of important work. I understand that more than 3000
> people have registered for the IGF. This past year, as a
> diverse Internet community, we have given much thought and
> energy on how to best "govern" ourselves. In Istanbul, we will
> have an opportunity, with our colleagues from around the
> world, to, once again, demonstrate the power of collective
> collaboration and action. As we know, collaboration is
> essential to ensure the future of the Internet. If decisions
> related to the Internet and its future are not in the hands of
> the many, they will only be in the hands of the few. I will
> post some further thoughts this weekend on IGF before the
> panels, workshops, lunches and dinners begin.
>
> I wanted, however, to take a few moments before we land to
> report back on my observations of the WEF event yesterday.
>
> I applaud the leadership of the World Economic Forum for
> highlighting and recognizing the enormity of the effect of the
> Internet on the global economy and the benefits and challenges
> inherent in its adoption in much of the world. It is, of
> course, entirely legitimate that it seeks to understand and
> participate in the debate on internet governance. When given
> the opportunity to comment during the morning session, I urged
> that its thinking about governance include as its central
> tenet the continuing investment, innovation and access to the
> Internet to and for everyone, particularly for those who do
> not yet have access and for the "unborn innovator".
>
> Many of us in and around the Internet Society--on Staff, on
> the Board, in our organizational members and Chapters, in the
> IETF and the IAB have been deeply committed and involved in
> working with our extended communities to address the threats
> to the Internet as well as to develop, manage and deploy the
> ever-evolving technology of the Internet throughout the world.
> We revel in inventing the future. Together, we have adopted a
> bottom up culture and method of decision making around
> numerous, local and global, technical, social and legal issues
> that arise in the decentralized, distributed ecosystem which
> is the Internet.
>
> We were delighted with the cooperative spirit in Brazil at Net
> Mundial as well as our collective ability to reach rough
> consensus on the principles that should govern our governing.
> Olaf Kolkman, ISOC's new CITO, enthusiastically said, lets
> tack these principles on the door and, for all who are ready
> to embrace them, come on in.
>
> Many of us are busy implementing features of the NetMundial
> roadmap. ISOC has developed toolkits for spam and IXPs; our
> regional offices hold INETs throughout the world to
> demonstrate and teach technical skills; our Leadership program
> creates and administers online courses and sponsors leadership
> seminars, ambassadorships and internships; we take active
> leadership in policy development for governance issues; and
> our staff has worked tirelessly to introduce best practices
> workshops to the IGF, while our Chapters have actively
> supported Regional and National IGFs around the Globe. The
> Internet Society is a party to the NTIA Transition
> Coordinating Committee. Our representatives and Chapters are
> intimately involved in the ICANN accountability dialogue. We
> believe that we are well along the Internet Governance journey.
>
> We welcome any and all people and groups of good will to work
> with us and the broader Internet Community in a
> multi-stakeholder effort to deepen and broaden this
> effort. We certainly invite WEF to get acquainted with our
> collective work that is serious and ongoing. I heard some
> intention to do that.
>
> I was disturbed, however, as others have expressed, with the
> opaque way the meeting came about; about what seemed to be
> established agendas; talk of some new single entity and top
> down models that purport to represent organic community
> processes that could be hobbled by definitions and artificial
> role expectations.
>
> I frankly do not know enough to know whether my concerns are
> justified. I look forward to hearing more from WEF, and
> perhaps, from the ICANN leadership, this week, about the
> initiative. I hope, too, that the folks at WEF who are coming
> to the IGF soak up the energy, creativity, work and sweat of
> the community that will gather this week. A constructive
> dialogue and the collaborative spirit of NetMundial may just
> cause us to join forces for the good of the Internet and the
> good of the world.
>
> So, on to Istanbul. We have work to do.
>
> Kathy
>
>
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