[Chapter-delegates] Issues facing Chapters
Daniel Otieno Omondi
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Tue May 20 23:16:53 PDT 2014
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On Tue, 5/20/14, Salam Yamout <syamout at pcm.gov.lb> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Issues facing Chapters
To: "'Gabriel Ramokotjo'" <gabrielramokotjo at gmail.com>, "'Alejandro Pisanty'" <apisanty at gmail.com>
Cc: "'Chapter Delegates'" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2014, 11:14 PM
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#yiv7713780601 +1 From: Chapter-delegates
[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On
Behalf Of Gabriel Ramokotjo
Sent:
Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:30 AM
To:
Alejandro Pisanty
Cc: Chapter
Delegates
Subject: Re:
[Chapter-delegates] Issues facing
Chapters
I'm gonna agree with Chris on this
one.Chapters in developing countries need further
assistance both financially and strengthening working
relations with their respective Governments. Yes ISOC
HQ leadership and staff are always there to provide support
and I can speak from our position as ISOC-Gauteng, but a bit
of financial assistance for new chapters to cover
administration costs, will go a long way in helping the
chapters to achieve their mandate.Regards,
Gabriel
ISOC -
GautengG.M RamokotjoOn May 20, 2014 7:28 PM,
"Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty at gmail.com>
wrote:Gihan, the $2,000 USD that Chris
Mulola is mentioning are conditional upon events organized
by the Chapter. I am sure the chapters
community will be happy to engage, as we have always done,
in providing you all sorts of information that is well known
within and across the organization, but maybe it is more
efficient that you collect it from staff, sitting Trustees
and other sources? Yours, Alejandro
Pisanty On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:21
PM, Gihan Dias <gihan at uom.lk>
wrote:Chris,
Let me give our experience in
Sri Lanka, which may - of course - differ from Rwanda or any
other country.
On
2014/05/18 ප.ව. 5:11,
Chris Mulola wrote:-A chapter in a developed
world whereby there is presence of these IT company
giants.
- And a chapter in
a developing country whereby there is no such thing like
Google's presence etc. and that all the other
international organizations, present in those countries,
have only the mandate to help governments that host
them.Google (and other
similar companies) now have offices in many countries. Even
if they have no office in Rwanda, they probably have local
companies marketing their products (such as mail) and
usually part of their budgets are earmarked for education,
etc. We have got assistance from Intel and Microsoft for
projects. Of course, ISoc, and the chapter leaders, need to
establish a track record before people will give large
amounts of money, but it has not been difficult to get like
$500-$1000.
Those
organizations will have a mission to please these
governments because that is what their job is - diplomacy
and international affairs. And chapters will not get
significant support from them like they are most of the
times politically-oriented.One strategy may be to tap
into some existing programme, and try to get your work done
under that banner (but may not always work).
I have been
raising funds and fighting for support for more than 3 years
and i know what i am talking about.Yes. I can understand your
point.
Just
recently, i was challenged by a question following some
reports of what ISOC global pays as taxes on salaries to i
dont know remember which organization.. and the question was
like this:
"I wonder
how your organization can be ignoring you by giving you
$2000 annual support and spend more than 12millions US
dollars (please check ISOC tax reports for the exact
figure, it is about that) on taxes? The money you are given
cannot even cover your administration needs let alone raise
your visibility."Could you let me have more
details on this? I am not familiar with ISoc's
accounts.
If given the
power there is something that i would like to change in the
way that isoc operates, i mean the working relationships
between governments-isocChapters-isocGlobal.I hope that together we can
achieve this.I guess
the situation will be slightly different in countries
whereby the Isoc people are the ones that built the
internet up along with their gover ments, here they will
continue to have a strong say. Case for Older chapters i
must say. Even if the
chapter is new, we should try to get some of the people who
have built, and are running, the networks, services, etc. in
the ISoc chapter. It is only then that people will take the
chapter seriously.I
believe this will change one day, but it will not, if we
continue to put these chapters in the same basket and treat
them the same way, forgetting that they should be
categorized, and given different kinds of support. Just as
an example..... Not $2000 for a chapter in New York or
Colorado or Tokyo and the same $2000 for another one in
Uganda or Burundi. Actually, $2000 will not go
far in New York, but may pay for a full time person for a
year in a developing country. So it's not too bad.
My suggestion is to first spend the $2000, show
some very good results, and then keep going.
Regards,
Gihan
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