[Chapter-delegates] Internet Society Appointments to theNTIA/IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group

[Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond]

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Dear Christian & Evan,

my comments in-line:

On 08/07/2014 11:46, Christian de Larrinaga wrote:
> Evan Leibovitch wrote:

[ a thread about WHOIS. I recommend that all parties, rather than
discussing a thread which has exhausted itself for several years, read
the Expert Working Group that looked at these issues and made
recommendations. Also look at the interim ALAC recommendations from last
year ]

Expert Working Group Final Report:
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-directory-services-2013-02-14-en


ALAC Endorsement of preliminary report & recommendations (some of which
were taken into account in the EWG final report):
https://community.icann.org/x/Xz5-Ag



>>
>> In ICANN At-Large we have identified quite a few issues -- some of
them significant -- where the interests of end users and registrants are
not aligned.
> to quote a relevant aside by Fade during the London meetings on ICANN
activities being asked to talk about "user" role. "ICANN doesn't do
that". He then went on to talk on stage about how users "pay for
everything" and are therefore central to the ICANN mission.

I have heard this story about Fadi. Is there any conclusive evidence,
aside from that that Fadi believes "ICANN does not do users?".
I am asking because if this is the case, I will need to remind him of
the ICANN Bylaws and copy his boss, Steve Crocker. But I'd rather have
conclusive evidence before sending Fadi Chehadé such a reminder.


>
> But that doesn't change the fact that ICANN is an industry body. It
does registry, registrar and  a little in registrant work. What ICANN
does is structure registries and registrars to take money from
registrants to pay for itself and the supply chain.  Users who are not
registrants have no voice because they do not pay into the ICANN
money-go-round.

Please read the ICANN bylaws on:
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bylaws-2012-02-25-en

The view that ICANN is an industry body has been (wrongly) purported by
both Contracted parties and ICANN naysayers. The fact is that this view
is wrong. Repeating this wrong point of view amounts to attempts at
brainwashing end users that they should steer clear of being involved in
ICANN. Quite the contrary - we have a strong community that will fight
these assertions and that is working hard to reverse this thread of
misinformation.

>
> The answer to building a broader and more effective participation is
for as many people on the Internet as possible be registrants in the
DNS. That is what is needed to make Internet for everyone just as much
as it is needed to force a greater voice for users in the round in data
network policy making.
>
> Any policy that makes it more onerous and less attractive for users to
be registrants is counter productive. We should be arguing for users to
be freed from these walled cyber gardens not picking on registrants as
the problem when in fact the problem lies with the ICANN policy process
and representation of registry and registrar operators.

Christian - irrespective of whether more Internet users should become
domain registrants, I refer you to Article XI of the ICANN bylaws,
Section 2.4.a
The fact that an end user is a domain registrant or not does not come in
the picture.

I also refer you to the Affirmation of Commitments Section 9.1 a-e.
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/affirmation-of-commitments-2009-09-30-en

Once again -- Internet Users. No mention of Registrants. Please feel
free to pass these references on to anyone telling you otherwise.

Kind regards,

Olivier




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