[Chapter-delegates] The European offensive

[Elver Loho]

Hi all,

Regarding the upcoming IETF meeting in London, then will any Estonian
policymakers be in attendance? What sort of outreach effort was made
to get policymakers to attend?

As for the issue of having national governments recognize IETF
standards, then, frankly, I'm still not entirely sure as to what sort
of recognition would qualify.

- IETF standards are, of course, referenced in public procurement
documents, but this is a pragmatic choice, not a top-down policy
dictate.
- A declaration by the cabinet or the parliament in recognition of
IETF's standards would be an empty symbolic gesture and non-binding
anyway.
- Does IETF have some membership program for representatives of local
governments? Sort of like GAC at ICANN? I am not too familiar with the
structure and practices of the IETF, but that might be a way of
getting buy-in from the governments.


Best,
Elver

elver.loho at gmail.com
+372 5661 6933
skype: elver.loho


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Markus Kummer <kummer at isoc.org> wrote:
> Dear Elver, Vint, all,
>
>
> Vint has explained the problem in a nutshell. Most governments adopt
> standards that derive either from their national standards bodies and/or
> official international standards organizations, such as ITU-T and ISO at the
> global level or, at the regional level, in Europe, CEN, CENELEC and ETSI.
> Often, these organizations are referenced in national legislation as well as
> in international treaties. How this is done, varies from country to country.
> Some governments, for instance, recognize IETF standards by reference, by
> specifying RFCs in public procurement. IT We would be interested in hearing
> from our Chapters whether they have any indications as to how this is
> handled in their respective countries. Ultimately, it would be significant
> to have governments recognize IETF standards in their national legislations.
>
>
>
> As you know, ISOC takes pride in providing the institutional home of the
> IETF and does its best to promote the IETF and its work. The sentence that
> caught your eyes refers to our outreach to governments we have been engaged
> in for the past two years. We invited policy makers to IETF meetings and
> will continue to do so. At the forthcoming IETF meeting in London we will
> have more than 30 policy makers from all regions, nearly a third of them
> from Europe.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Markus
>
>
> From: Vint Cerf <vint at google.com>
> Date: Tuesday25, February, 2014 10:56 AM
> To: Elver Loho <elver.loho at gmail.com>
> Cc: Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] The European offensive
>
> some governments only recognize standards from national or treaty-like
> organizations. They won't specify the use of other standards from private
> sector organizations. I think this was just an offer to make known the IETF
> work and the widespread voluntary adoption of its recommendations.
>
> v
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Elver Loho <elver.loho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I stumbled upon this document in one of ISOC's newsletters:
>>
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/blog/europe-bureau-public-policy/2014/02/european-commissions-position-future-internet-governance
>>
>> In it there is this sentence: "The Internet Society stands ready to
>> assist European authorities to familiarize themselves with the work of
>> the IETF and calls on European governments to recognize IETF
>> standards."
>>
>> What is meant by this? How would a government formally recognize
>> technical standards? Because if something sensible was meant by this
>> sentence, then it could be a task for the local EU chapters.
>>
>> Best,
>> Elver
>> .ee
>>
>> elver.loho at gmail.com
>> +372 5661 6933
>> skype: elver.loho
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