[Chapter-delegates] Proposed charter of the Chapter Advisory Council

Mon Dec 15 00:49:46 PST 2014

Hello all,
I am also for limiting consecutive terms to three. We need to get more people with different expertise involved.
This leads to the second point raised by Alejandro below, which also support.
All the best,
Hosein. 

From: apisanty at gmail.com
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 20:54:38 -0600
To: chester at soong.net
CC: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Proposed charter of the Chapter Advisory	Council

Chester,
agree - there have to be term limits.
NEXT POINT: the Charter, or auxiliary documents, would benefit from an addition to the conditions of diversity.Besides geographical diversity (and gender diversity, which should be self-understood at this stage) we should seek to have what we called "functional diversity" when writing ICANN's Bylaws over a decade ago. This means that engineers, lawyers, policy people, people involved in technical standads, software developers, people with experience in network management, operation and planning, user experience, accessibility, etc. should be present. A too-homogenous Council won't be beneficial enough; we already see that failure in other organizations and can document its effects fully.
Yours,
Alejandro Pisanty
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Chester Soong <chester at soong.net> wrote:*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro*

+1 on the limit on number of consecutive terms.

Chester

On 12/12/2014 10:12 PM, Nadira Alaraj wrote:

Dear Evan & John,

Thank you for the effort in preparing the proposed charter of the

Chapter Advisory Council.

I went through the document and the chat recording and I have one

comment regarding point 4.1

" /The officers will be elected by the Steering Committee from amongst

its members for a one-year term, once the Steering Committee is selected

at the CAC Annual Meeting. *An officer may serve up to five consecutive

one-year terms*./"

A maximum of 5 consecutive years for an officer that might serve would

be too long.  It is better to give a chance and experience for more

emerging leadership.  Therefor, I think it is better to reduce the

duration up to 3 consecutive years.

Best regards,

Nadira Alaraj

Board member,

ISOC Palestine Chapter

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Janvier Noulaye <jnoulaye at gmail.com

<mailto:jnoulaye at gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi Alejandro,  Evan & All,

    My take is that we must keep using all these multiple channel of

    communication (Chat, mailing list, etc), but keeping in mind that if

    the topic must interest the community, we also bring it to the

    appropriate mailing list.

    I think it's what I see till now.

    Warm regards,

    /Janvier

    2014-12-11 21:50 GMT+01:00 Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org

    <mailto:evan at telly.org>>:

     > On 10 December 2014 at 18:36, Alejandro Pisanty

    <apisanty at gmail.com <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>> wrote:

     >

     >>

     >> indeed there is a discussion on the Skype chat put together by

    Evan and

     >> which involves some of us ISOC chapter leaders and other members.

     >>

     >> Since that is a close, non-transparent, non-publicly-recorded,

     >> non-standards-compliant discussion I have asked the CAC-proposal

    team

     >> members, Evan and John, to move it to this shared space and to the

     >> standards-compliant email discussion list.

     >

     >

     >

     > Hi Alejandro,

     >

     > In the interests of reaching as many people as possible, John and

    I have

     > promoted, discussed, and taken feedback on the Charter through

    multiple

     > channels:

     >

     > - The Chapter-delegates mailing list

     > - The Connect online portal (which has an email gateway)

     > - Four regional real-time teleconferences

     > - In the Skype chat

     >

     >

     > Of the four, the Skype chat is a real-time casual discussion, not

    sanctioned

     > by ISOC, that does not have the consent of all its members to be made

     > public. Indeed, it is possible that there is an atmosphere in the

    chat that

     > is based on an assumption of non-circulation. Reproducing a

    conversation

     > from a non-public forum to a public one without consent might be

    an invasion

     > of privacy laws in some jurisdictions, and is at very least bad

    manners.

     >

     > In each channel, John and I have responded in the same forum in

    which the

     > original question was asked. We answered questions in the Skype

    chat, but no

     > changes to the Charter were made based on conversations there.

     >

     > Anyone wishing has my permission to reproduce my Skype comments

    related to

     > the CAC but not necessarily about other matters. And if anyone

    has a concern

     > about the openness of the Skype chat there are multiple more-open

    venues to

     > use. John and I have been participating in all of them.

     >

     > - Evan

     >

     >

     >

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